Algerian and Morrocan Descendants and Immigrant Protests/Riots in France

This has been rather nuts,

As I was doing my nightly rounds, I came across an article on RT in Spanish mentioning that things had started to settle down AFTER more police were put on the streets, which... my gosh! what an idea!

The other thing that caught my attention is that out of the over 3200 individuals who have been arrested so far, are an average of 17 years old, even some 12 and 13 years old have been violent enough to be arrested (destroying property, burning vehicles and buildings). 60% have no prior criminal record (I guess now they do), but that means that 40% of them do.. which is 1280 criminals loose on the street creating havoc, at least those that have been arrested.

Not sure if I have ever heard of such a young crowd making such a mess in recent years, though I could be wrong.

Which I thought it was an interesting stat to ponder about, the caos brought out thousands of criminal mind individuals only seeking to take advantage of it.
 
Canada: Clashes also took place in Montreal following the events taking place in France#Emeutes

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Chambéry: Anti-riot demonstration in progress"Red white blue, France to the French."#Emeutes
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When the cat isn't there the mice are dancing it's over #emeutes there are 8 of them they go for a walk in town crying France to the French under the protection of the cops afterwards they go twitter and send sorrel anonymously to the #cagnotte of @JeanMessiha
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Firefighter who died in Saint-Denis: where does the link, for the moment not established, come from with urban violence?

Editorial
Between immigration and economy, the UDC has chosen
By launching a new blow against immigration, the SVP is falling back on its favorite theme. Confirming in passing that it is not in line with the needs of the economy
Publié le 02 juillet 2023 18:48. Modifié le 03 juillet 2023 18:33.
To what extent will the so-called initiative “For sustainability”, dubbed Saturday in the assembly of delegates, serve the SVP during the federal elections this fall? By falling back on immigration, its favorite theme, the country's leading party will not fail to hit the bull's eye with part of the electorate. Frightened by the demographic growth of Switzerland, citizens will be reassured by the prospect of limiting it to 10 million inhabitants by 2050.

The agrarian party is right to worry about migratory pressure which involves colossal challenges. No one is fooled. His approach, however, is more electoral calculation than the real desire to provide solutions.

Read also: The new anti-European sling of the UDC

Ironically, the economic umbrella organizations stepped up to the plate just a week ago to be alarmed for the umpteenth time at the shortage of labor which is plaguing business activity. They will be able to appreciate the new blow that the SVP gives to immigration, even if it claims to want to separate the wheat from the chaff; in other words, favoring “useful” profiles to the detriment of others.

Too late for targeted selection

Implementing a needs-based migration policy should not be taboo. This path unfortunately represents a solution of the past. Today, the shortage is so glaring that companies systematically point to it as the first obstacle to their development. With arms and brains missing almost everywhere due to the retirement of baby boomers, it is hard to see how such a selection could be made. If not under the influence of intense lobbying work which would oppose the different economic branches
Also read: Labor shortage: Bosses appeal for immigration

The priority must therefore go to the integration of immigrants into the world of work. While it represents a powerful opportunity for integration, it remains far too imperfect. If they want to pull the rug out from under the SVP, the economic circles have every interest in playing the game of social partnership and redistributing part of their earnings. Much more than the specter of unemployment, it is purchasing power that worries voters. He could well throw them into the arms of the far-right formation.


Assembly of SVP delegates, July 1 in Küssnacht. — © Michele Limina for Le Temps
Florian Fischbacher Published on July 03, 2023, 05:49. Modified on 03 July 2023 18:56.
“For many French people, a deep sense of déjà vu prevails.” Like the Financial Times , the newspapers of European countries all evoke the riots of 2005, after six days and as many nights of clashes following the death of Nahel, 17, killed by a policeman in Nanterre.

Although the night from Sunday to Monday was relatively calm, the impressive clashes of the past few days “underline the deep divisions in society, the tensions between young people and the police, and the failure of successive governments to improve living conditions in the suburbs, despite forty years of plans in this direction”, continues the British economic newspaper.

The finding is the same for the Sunday Times , which describes a “fractured nation”, where “race relations have become more strained over the past two decades with the increase in the immigrant population”. Recalling the three weeks of riots that followed the death of Zyed and Bouna 18 years ago in Clichy-sous-Bois, the newspaper said it feared "this time the situation will get out of control faster than in 2005". The "previous popular revolts against Macron" mean that "the mood of the country is today more angry and society more divided", adds the Sunday Times .

Read also: The evolution of the French riots of recent nights in light of those of 2005

“The crisis of the French model”

The Paris correspondent of the Italian newspaper La Stampa makes him a direct comparison between the two eras, having plunged back into his 2005 notepad. I canceled the time”, he says, pessimistic. He denounces, as nearly 20 years ago, "the blindness and hypocrisy of a bankrupt political class". The Italian journalist sees again an “intifada of hooded, nihilistic and sterile young people”. These rebellious young people, grandchildren of immigrants, who "dreamed of obtaining a French passport", went to school in France, "who were taught the Marseillaise and the delights of fraternity". They “already have this passport in their pocket; the trouble is that they don't want it anymore”. And to conclude: “it is the crisis of the French model which always promises and never holds”.

In Spain, El País believes, for its part, that "the year of the great revolt of the suburbs is in everyone's mind, from the power of the Elysée to the inhabitants of the suburbs". And this third wave "of social discontent which Macron must face, after the yellow vests and the pension reform" can "at any time become uncontrollable again or degenerate": "it is the France of 2023, a country which is experiencing an anomaly."

Read again: Faced with violence in the suburbs, Emmanuel Macron points to social networks

“When we burn 100 cars in France, we burn one in Brussels”

In Switzerland, one wonders about the possibility of a broadening of the protest movement. The Neue Zürcher Zeitung thus indicates that “the events in France motivated a hundred young people to go wild in the city center of Lausanne on the night of Saturday to Sunday”, following “a call on social networks” . "It was a bit of chaos" testified in 24 hours the manager of a store whose window was broken, surprised at the age of the participants who were "very young, around 13-15 years old". However, the Lausanne event remains isolated and on a much smaller scale than in France.

Belgium – where Le Soir reports that “two cars were set on fire” in Brussels and “more than a hundred people” were arrested “over the weekend, the majority of them minors” – shares the Swiss questioning. But questioned by the French-speaking daily, Xavier Rousseaux, professor at the Catholic University of Louvain puts it into perspective: “When you burn 100 cars in France, you burn one in Brussels or Liège. But it stops there.” He notes that the same reaction had already taken place in Belgium in 2005 “where we came to film a car that had burned on a vacant lot in Louvain-la-Neuve to show that in Belgium too the housing estates were burning […] We have to de-dramatize.”

The Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung notes, however, that the situation in France is serious. And the French president finds himself in a difficult situation: "the longer the troubles continue, the more the confidence of the citizens in Macron's leadership diminishes". And the Süddeutsche Zeitung points out that the situation has led to the cancellation of a trip by Emmanuel Macron to Germany, scheduled for this week, which “would have been the first state visit by a French president for twenty-three years. ".

In German-speaking Switzerland, the Tages Anzeiger believes that even if the French president, “who knows the power of symbols, had difficulty accepting this cancellation, […] it could not be otherwise”. Maintaining such a visit while “his own house is burning would have been difficult to make accepted by a heated French public opinion”. The country "needs a captain on deck", adds the Zurich daily, which calls on the French president to tackle two problems head-on. Police violence on the one hand: the slogan “the police kill” must “remain controversial, it must not describe reality”, according to the Tages-Anzeiger. On the other hand, on the situation of the suburbs, he believes that “many things have been tried, but no one has yet tackled this task with the greatest seriousness”.

Suddenly, however, "everyone gets involved, politicians, journalists, they want to take the pulse where we don't really like to look," writes the Süddeutsche Zeitung . While the question is not new: “France and its suburbs. For decades, this relationship has been problematic. But "anger often ferments in the shadows," adds the German newspaper.

Also read: Home of mayor targeted in fifth night of violence in France

Violence that “bodes nothing good”

Going back ten years before the riots of 2005, the Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung , like other newspapers, evokes a malaise in the suburbs, particularly in the face of the police, already described in La Haine, the film by Mathieu Kassovitz released in 1995. hatred which “feeds above all on disappointed hopes”.

In a separate commentary, the Süddeutsche Zeitung points out that “there are many actors in France engaged in civil society and even in politics, who are trying to carry out reforms”. While regretting: “We do not hear them and we do not see them”. Instead, the Bavarian newspaper observes that “for years now, loudspeakers of hatred and racism” have monopolized “the national discourse”.

“This eruption of violence does not bode well for the country,” adds the FAZ, as it “should give an extra boost to far-right parties. Marine Le Pen does not even need to comment on the events.

Also read: Sebastian Roché: “The problem of fatal shots when refusing to comply is systemic in France”


🤔Hmm..Al Jazeera
Outrage swells on social media as fund for accused police officer grows, with calls on GoFundMe to close the pot.
A collection for the French policeman who sparked nationwide riots by killing a teenager during a traffic stop has been growing, prompting outrage among politicians and activists.

Set up by Jean Messiha, a former adviser to the French far-right politician Marine Le Pen, the appeal on GoFundMe had raised 963,000 euros ($1.05m) at the time of writing on Monday.

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Slain teenager’s grandmother calls for end to riots in France

On June 27, the accused officer was filmed shooting into a car being driven by Nahel M, a 17-year-old of North African descent.

The shot killed the teenager and has led to days of unrest across France, as anger rages over the incident.

Nahel’s grandmother, Nadia, was recently asked about the crowdfunding campaign, and she replied: “My heart aches.”

The boy’s death has renewed debates on France’s long and troubled history with its ethnic minority populations, and allegations of police brutality.

Centrist and left-wing politicians condemned Messiha’s collection drive.

Eric Bothorel, from the En Marche party of President Emmanuel Macron, wrote on Twitter: “Jean Messiha blows on the embers. It is a generator of riots. The pot of several hundred thousand euros for the police officer indicted in the homicide of young Nahel is indecent and scandalous.”

Olivier Faure, head of the Socialist Party, called on GoFundMe to close the fundraiser, accusing the platform of “hosting a pot of shame”.

“You maintain an already gaping fracture by participating in support of a police officer indicted for intentional homicide. Close!”

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Some called out the hypocrisy of the pot still taking donations.

In 2019, the fund for a former boxer who had punched several police officers during “yellow vest” anti-government demonstrations in 2019 was quickly closed down.

Left-wing politician David Guiraud wrote on Twitter: “The assumed message is kill Arabs, and you will become millionaires, and the government watches this horror pass without saying anything when it had closed the yellow vest pot in 2 days who hit a policeman. Repugnant.”

The French activist group Sleeping Giants tweeted the “sheer existence” of the fund “inflames the sentiment of injustice and furthers tensions”.

Amid the riots, which often feature vandalism and see protesters clash with police, France has been deploying 45,000 officers onto the streets each night to quell unrest in cities including Paris, Strasbourg, Marseille and Nice.

On Monday, demonstrations began at French town halls opposing the riots, during which violence and looting has also been reported.

Called a “mobilisation of citizens for a return to republican order”, the anti-riot rallies came after the home of the mayor of a Paris suburb was rammed with a flaming car.

Fewer than 160 people were arrested on Sunday night, down from 700 the night before and far fewer than the 1,300 arrested on Friday night.

Nadia told BFM TV that rioters were using her grandson’s death as an excuse to incite chaos.

“I tell them to stop it. It’s mothers who take buses, it’s mothers who walk outside. We should calm things, we don’t want them to break things,” she said.

“Nahel is dead, that’s all there is.” Source: Al Jazeera and news agencies


Meanwhile:
Well said. It seems to be the same here for the OG's in these necks of the woods.
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REPORT On the Situation of Roma Migrants in France
2009 / 2010
 
Driss Ghali est marocain et musulman. Il a fait ses études en France et y a commencé sa vie professionnelle. Aujourd’hui, à chaque fois qu’il revient dans l’hexagone, il est effaré et ne comprend pas ce qu’il voit. Comment le Peuple français accepte-t-il l’américanisation aussi massive de sa culture, l’ensauvagement de ses manières et une présence de l’Islam toujours plus affirmée ? Il ne s’agit pas ici d’un énième livre sur le déclin de la France, vieille névrose qui resurgit régulièrement. Non, ici l’auteur cherche à savoir comment l’abaissement du pays peut être à ce point accepté par les Français. Pourquoi reconduisent-ils scrutin après scrutin des responsables politiques qui organisent leur sortie de l’Histoire par l’immigration de peuplement et l’abdication de la souveraineté au profit de l’Union Européenne ? Pour Driss Ghali, il y a quelques explications. Elles sont douloureuses à accepter mais peut-être pourront-elles en aider certains à ouvrir enfin les yeux.
Diplômé des grandes écoles (Centrale Paris, EDHEC), Driss Ghali est spécialiste des relations internationales et intervient au Maroc, au Brésil et en France.

Driss Ghali is Moroccan and Muslim. He studied in France and began his professional life there. Today, every time he returns to France, he is scared and does not understand what he sees. How do the French people accept such a massive Americanization of their culture, the savagery of their ways and an ever more assertive presence of Islam? This is not yet another book on the decline of France, an old neurosis that resurfaces regularly. No, here the author seeks to know how the lowering of the country can be so accepted by the French. Why do they renew ballot after ballot of political leaders who organize their exit from history through the immigration of people and the abdication of sovereignty to the benefit of the European Union? For Driss Ghali, there are a few explanations. They are painful to accept but perhaps they will be able to help some to finally open their eyes.
A graduate of the Grandes Ecoles (Centrale Paris, EDHEC), Driss Ghali is a specialist in international relations and works in Morocco, Brazil and France.

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Musulman chiite australien et "Imam" autoproclamé Tawhidi sur les émeutes en France : "Vous [la France] êtes allé dans les pays musulmans et avez importé les ordures que les pays musulmans voulaient mettre en prison ou isoler de la société."
En gros il traite les immigrés en Europe de merde

Australian Shiite Muslim and self-proclaimed "Imam" Tawhidi on the riots in France: "You [France] went to Muslim countries and imported the garbage that Muslim countries wanted to put in jail or isolate from society."
Basically he treats immigrants in Europe as shit
 
I was wondering if there is not a missing letter in the title of the thread:
Algerian and Morrocan Descendants and Immigrant Protests/Riots in France
instead of
Algerian and Morrocan Descedants and Immigrant Protests/Riots in France


Report on the seventh night of rioting in France ( on the decline in recent days):

- 202 street fires
- 159 vehicles set on fire (5821 in one week)
- 24 buildings set on fire or damaged (1,083 in one week)
- 72 people arrested (+3,400 in one week)
- 45,000 FDO deployed
- 0 policemen or gendarmes injured
 
More about the attempt in Montreal


A demonstration of around 100 people took place on Sunday evening in front of the Eaton Centre on Sainte-Catherine Street downtown. Reportedly, the gathering supported the movements in France, but sources also indicated possible intentions of vandalism, Jean-Pierre Brabant, spokesman for the Service de police de la Ville de Montréal (SPVM), told Métro.

Participants began pouring in as early as 6pm. "There was some dispersal because people wanted to get into the Eaton Centre to commit mischief," explains the SPVM officer. The police responded to protect the businesses and asked Eaton Centre security guards to lock the doors.

A 16-year-old teenager was arrested "for making death threats against a police officer". He was released on a written promise to appear. Two statements of offence were issued following a fight, potentially involving two people.

No police officers or citizens were injured, and no businesses were damaged, says the SPVM. Calm returned around 9:30 p.m., and the event ended about half an hour later. "Overall, the demonstration went well," says Brabant.

According to TVA Nouvelles, the aim of the demonstration, inspired by the riots in France and organized via social networks, seemed to be to sow chaos. One social media post read: "We're doing the same thing as the riots in France, we have to blow everything up".
 
That is interesting: Some comments above talked about the movie Athena, released in 2022 on Netflix, that some used on Social Networks to make fake news during riots. According to the French Wikipédia, the Nahel's family lawyer, Yassine Bouzrou, the star lawyer of the French Bar, performs in the Romain Gavras' movie.
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The movie shows how a housing estate goes up in flames after the death of a young man blamed on the police. Yassine Bouzrou plays his own role as the lawyer of the family of the young man killed.

What? :wow:

Edit: clarity

About the lawyer, in fact, he is not the only one to defend the Nahel's family.

I remember that the first day, on the same evening of the Nahel's death -i.e. June 27th- I saw a lawyer on TV, and that was not Yassine Bouzrou. The name of the lawyer I saw then is Jennifer Cambla, and here is what she says a dozen of hours later the Nahel's death, as reported by this article published at 21:17 PM (French hour) which include a video that I can't share here:
Minor killed by a policeman in Nanterre: "We're dealing with an execution", says Jennifer Cambla (lawyer for the victim's family)

According to this tweet (from a state TV channel that makes no secret of its very left-wing leanings, woke ideology, namely France5 in the program named "C à Vous") published on June 27th at 5:12 PM, Nahel's family has two lawyers (there is no audio in this tweet, I do not know why, unless it is just a teaser of the interview programmed a bit later):
17-year-old driver shot dead in Nanterre: the lawyers for the family of the deceased young man, Maître Jennifer Cambla and Maître Abdelmadjid Benamara, speak out on the program of #CàVous

According to this article published at 17:27 PM and modified at 19:20 PM (French hour) in Le Parisien, the Nahel's family has now three lawyers: Abdelmadjid Benamara, Jennifer Cambla and Yassine Bouzrou.

Does a "normal" family can have 3 criminal lawyers just some hours after the "crime"?

Do all three lawyers have such hubris that they had to "jump" on the case, and made the announce (just before 5:00 PM) that they were lawyers for Nahel's family, approximatively at the same time the 1st tensions/riots occurred in Nanterre, as the first bin fires were reported around 5:00 PM, before to spread out on the cities around during that night and further in the country the following night? Maybe.

Or did the Nahel's family (i.e. his mother, mostly) "choose" these three lawyers?
How?
Why these precisely?
Was Adama [Traoré] Committee (possibly partly funded by Soros) behind this choice, at least for Yassine Bouzrou - given the presence of Assa Traoré next to Nahel's mother in the truck that was regulating like clockwork the crowd taking part in the "white march" last Thursday, as mentioned in one of my previous posts?
See below for Yassine Bouzrou and the family Traoré.

Moreover, who is this 44-year-old ténor of the Bar? According to Wikipédia, he has pleaded in a number of media-friendly trials, including criminal cases, privacy violations, charges of police violence as the Adama Traoré one - he is the lawyer for the family Traoré since 2016, as the case is still on-going, at least on November 2022):
He is the lawyer for the family of Adama Traoré, the young man who died on July 19, 2016 during his arrest by gendarmes. The month after his appointment, he obtained the transfer of the case to Paris. The weekly L'Obs considers that he was behind the transfer of Yves Jannier, former public prosecutor in Pontoise.

He is also one of the lawyers representing (in 2014 at least) the relatives of the victims of the Rio-Paris flight which crashed into the Atlantic on June 1st 2009. This last one is not in his Wikipédia page.

According to this CNews article, published on June 28th at 15:00 PM (French hour):
Not yet three years into his career at the Bar, Yassine Bouzrou was named one of GQ magazine's top 30 most influential lawyers in France, and will head the list in 2021.
 
La France s’embrase sous le regard ébahi de la presse étrangère
Par Marie-Camille Le Conte - Un an après le chaos du Stade de France, quelques mois seulement après des scènes de guérilla liées à la réforme des retraites, la France fait à nouveau parler d’elle. Comme une traînée de poudre, les informations s’étendent au-delà des frontières : les banlieues s’enflamment, leurs habitants brûlent les mairies, pillent les magasins, attaquent les ...

France is on fire under the amazed gaze of the foreign press
By Marie-Camille Le Conte - A year after the chaos at the Stade de France, just a few months after guerrilla scenes linked to the pension reform, France is once again making headlines. Like wildfire, the information spreads beyond the borders: the suburbs ignite, their inhabitants burn the town halls, loot the shops, attack the ...
 
According to a testimony given to the André Berkoff radio show (lost the link), some Antifa groups use the riots to target certain groups. For example, they publish fake social-media posts about a group X (labelled as ultra-right) calling for attacking the rioters, then they organize an attack on the group X with the rioters, and sometimes the police comes after to arrest the group X. Something like that.
 
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FLASH - Nahel's family files a complaint for organized fraud against Jean Messiha, the creator of the kitty in support of the policeman who shot the teenager deadly, and against anyone identified as having participated in the offense . (RMC) #Nanterre
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It's going to be dismissed and they're still going to tell us it's racist lol

Rally in support of #élus attacked at #Lyon : visibly moved, the first deputy
@AudreyHenocque speaks “to ask for a return to calm” immediately. About 250 people gathered in front of the central town hall
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Rally in support of the #élus attacked at #Lyon : the approximately 250 people present conclude this moment with a woman from Marseille, under the portrait of Jean Moulin
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LIVE immediate appearances at #LyonWithout an audience, the prosecutor claims 2 years in prison with a warrant for firing fireworks at police officers (without injuries)Mind-blowing.
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By the way: these are indeed fireworks, contrary to what the expression "mortar fire" suggests
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“Mortar fire”, a misuse of language that has a hard life as a reminder, the firing of fireworks mortars have nothing to do with the firing of mortar shells, which are real artillery weapons.

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