Alton Towers, Sir Francis Bacon and the Rosicrucians

I think this from Laura also relates:




Both Harran and Mitanni (under Tushratta) were under Hittite control and "Land of Hatti" was used to refer to the whole Hittite state so this also fits with Abraham/Ay being a Hittite moon worshiper as the Cs said and Sarah/Nefertiti passing along this religion to Akhenaten. Laura is also suggesting the genetic tweak of their heads perhaps made them desirable gifts for a King of Egypt. The Cs confirmed this Nefertiti to Akhenaten religion relates back to Zoroaster and Zoroaster was trying to fix a much older religion which seems to relate back to Lascaux cave paintings via a Zoroastrian creation story so tracing back to Druid areas is possible via Zoroaster as well as via "Where Troy Once Stood". The Luwian "new" Troy kind of intermixed with the neighboring Hittites hence a Helen of Troy/Paris trip to Egypt story to match with Nefertiti/Ay appeared perhaps.
Thank you for these comments and for quoting that extract from Laura. You are correct that Harran came under Hittite control at one stage. From Wikipedia:

"After the Suppiluliuma IShattiwaza treaty in the 14th century BCE between the Hittite Empire and Mitanni, Harran was burned by a Hittite army under Piyashshili during its invasion of Mitanni."

This event could therefore have coincided with the time when Abraham and Nefertiti were resident in the City and they were taken as captives as a result. They may also have been children at the time, so could have been the one male servant, one female servant, out of the booty from the land of Hatti cited in the Amarna letters. However, the fact that Abraham/Moses went on to become an important figure in Egypt and Nefertiti became Akhenaten's wife, suggests they were not simply slaves or servants since they could not have become members of the royal household as mere slaves. When I read Kent R. Weeks book on The Lost Tomb, 1998, he looked at the myth surrounding the story of Moses and pointed out that no child found in a basket afloat on the River Nile could possibly have been adopted into the Egyptian royal family. You had to be of royal blood to be a part of the royal family. Hence, it is likely that Abraham at least was a royal prince in his own right and Moses has always been described as a Prince of Egypt. Nefertiti on the other hand could certainly have achieved her exalted status through marriage. She could well have married Akhenaten's father, Amenhotep III, first before marrying Akhenaten. When you are Pharaoh, you can have any woman you want. Although Nefertiti was known to have an enlarged cranium and was therefore a hybrid, I do not recall this being said of Abraham/Moses, but I stand to be corrected if anyone can show differently. Let us not also forget that the C's have said that Nefertiti came from the underground civilisation (the Nation of the Third Eye) but this origin may not apply to Abraham.

I don't think Abraham can be Ay since Ay, a top adviser to the Pharaoh's, would go on to become pharaoh after King Tutankhamen’s death in 1323 B.C. The C's made it clear that Abraham and his group would spend the next 40 years or so wandering around the desert as Bedouins. The question we really need to answer is: was Ay Nefertiti's father?

Nefertiti’s parentage is unrecorded, but, as her name translates as “A Beautiful Woman Has Come,” early Egyptologists believed that she must have been a princess from Mitanni (Syria). There is strong circumstantial evidence, however, to suggest that she was the Egyptian-born daughter of the courtier Ay, brother of Akhenaton’s mother, Tiy. In one of the records, a woman called Tey is depicted as the “Nurse of the Great Royal Wife”. Tey was probably the wet nurse of Nefertiti. It’s also been noted that Tey was the wife (second wife possibly) of Ay.

Scenes from the tombs of the nobles in Amarna mention that Nefertiti had a sister, named Mutbenret. Further, a woman named Tey carried the title of "Nurse of the Great Royal Wife." In addition, Tey's husband Ay carried the title "God's Father." Some Egyptologists believe that this title was used for a man whose daughter married the pharaoh. Based on these titles, it has been proposed that Ay was in fact Nefertiti's father. However, neither Ay or Tey are explicitly referred to as Nefertiti's parents in the existing sources. At the same time, no sources exist that directly contradict Ay's fatherhood which is considered likely due to the great influence he wielded during Nefertiti's life and after her death. According to another theory, Nefertiti was the daughter of Ay and a woman besides Tey, but Ay's first wife died before Nefertiti's rise to the position of queen, whereupon Ay married Tey, making her Nefertiti's stepmother. Nevertheless, this entire proposal is based on speculation and conjecture.

I may go into more depth about Ay's role in this whole affair in a subsequent article. The worst notion I have come across though is that there is a theory that Ay may have been behind Tutankhamun's death. If he was his grandfather, that would be appalling. However, one fact that is not well known about Tutankhamun is that he had a deformed leg, not a good advert for a man who was supposed to be the embodiment of a living god. At a time when plague may have been rampant in Egypt, this was not a good selling point. It would look as though somebody took the decision that he had outlived his usefulness for there is definite indications that Tutankhamun, like his father before him, was murdered. A loose bone fragment has been found in the young Pharaoh's skull, which implies he suffered a possible blow to the head. See Possible Death Theories. Since Ay assumed the throne after Tutankhamun's death, many point the finger at him. However, another theory suggests that he was murdered by General Horemheb, a man of low birth who became one of Akhenaten's closest advisors. Under Tutankhamun, he was appointed commander-in-chief of the army and deputy of the king. Following the demise of Tutankhamun and Ay, Horemheb became pharaoh.​

And then there is Yuya:
Another Egyptian ally in the area was the land of Amurru, with a considerable population of seminomadic warlike tribes known as the Apiru [Hebrews? maybe, maybe not].

Amurru/Amorite/Apiru will come later without entering into details. Abram/Saraï betray Pharaoh, and it seems the whole story is about international intrigue involving betrayal as well as marital scandals.

A certain Yuya enters the scene at the same period, he's apparently a foreigner who becomes very influential in the royal court. He's the father of Tiyy, the mother of Akhenaten/Amenhotep IV. He's suspected of being of Mettanic decent, even the brother of the Hurri princess who married Thutmose IV...

This then would make him Ay's father too.
The mummy of Yuya showed that he had been a man of taller than average stature, and the anatomist G.Elliot Smith considered that his appearance was not typically Egyptian, which, together with his unusual name, led to speculation that he was of foreign origin. This has never been proved, but it is conceivable that he had some Mitannian ancestry, since it is known that knowledge of horses and chariotry was introduced into Egypt from the northern lands and Yuya was the king’s ‘Master of the Horse’.
From Wikipedia:

Yuya (sometimes Iouiya, or Yuaa, also known as Yaa, Ya, Yiya, Yayi, Yu, Yuyu, Yaya, Yiay, Yia, and Yuy) was a powerful ancient Egyptian courtier during the Eighteenth Dynasty of Egypt (circa 1390 BC). He was married to Thuya, an Egyptian noblewoman associated with the royal family, who held high offices in the governmental and religious hierarchies. Their daughter, Tiye, became the Great Royal Wife of Amenhotep III. Yuya and Thuya are known to have had a son named Anen, who carried the titles "Chancellor of Lower Egypt", "Second Prophet of Amun", "Sm-priest of Heliopolis", and "Divine Father". His title "Father-of-the-god" possibly referred specifically to his being Amenhotep's father-in-law.

Yuya and Thuya may also have been the parents of Ay, an Egyptian courtier active during the reign of Akhenaten, who eventually became pharaoh as Kheperkheprure Ay. There is no conclusive evidence, however, regarding the kinship of Yuya and Ay, although certainly both men came from the town of Akhmim.

However, it is interesting to me that Yuya was known as "Divine Father" and Ay subsequently was known as "God's Father".

The Biographical Dictionary of Ancient Egypt gives credence to the foreign origin hypothesis: "It is conceivable that he [Yuya] had some Mitannian ancestry, since it is known that knowledge of horses and chariotry was introduced into Egypt from the northern lands and Yuya was the king's 'Master of the Horse'." It also discusses the possibility that Yuya was the brother of queen Mutemwiya, who was the mother of Pharaoh Amenhotep III and may have had Mitannian royal origins. However, this hypothesis cannot be substantiated, since nothing is known of Mutemwiya's background. Yuya is believed to have died in his mid fifties, in around 1374 BC.

Hence, we see a lot of strange people, possibly with non-Egyptian origins, as the ancestors of Akhenaten and Tutankhamen. However, for our purposes, here is the most interesting theory about Yuya:

Proposed identification with biblical Joseph
Journalist Ahmed Osman in his book Stranger in the Valley of the Kings has suggested an identification between Joseph, the ancient Hebrew patriarch who led the tribe of Israel into Egypt during a famine, and Yuya. This theory has not been accepted in mainstream Egyptology. Donald B. Redford wrote a scathing review of Stranger in the Valley of the Kings for Biblical Archaeology Review. Similarly, Deborah Sweeney has expressed great doubt toward the proposed identification. Sweeney states that the title "God's father of the Lord of the Two Lands" is an extension of the title "God's Father," which is not exclusive to Yuya. The Bible claims that Joseph's mummified body was exhumed and transported to Canaan by the Israelites, while Yuya's remained undisturbed in the Valley of the Kings in Egypt, where his mummy was discovered in 1905.

Well this theory certainly puts the cat among the pigeons.

You said: "Both Harran and Mitanni (under Tushratta) were under Hittite control and "Land of Hatti" was used to refer to the whole Hittite state so this also fits with Abraham/Ay being a Hittite moon worshiper as the Cs said and Sarah/Nefertiti passing along this religion to Akhenaten."

The Hittites were moon worshippers that is true, as were many people in that region of the Middle East. Moon worship is very much tied up with Mother Goddess worship (think of Isis, Hathor, Selene etc.), which by my reckoning is ultimately derived from a deification of the Holy Grail, turning that ancient artefact into a triple goddess persona. Robert Graves in his book 'The White Goddess' advances the idea that the ancient Britons were worshippers of the Goddess until she was replaced by the male deity Bel, a sun god equivalent to Baal, as their supreme god. However, the Egyptians of Akhenaten's age worshipped as their chief god Amun-Ra, being an amalgamation or fusion of the god Amun with the Sun god, Ra. As the heretic pharaoh, Akhenaten changed this to a worship of the Aten, a monotheistic deity with unspecified gender. Hence, Abraham/Moses and Nefertiti/Sarah may certainly have been influential in converting Akhenaten to monotheism but not, I think, to moon worship unless you are taking the Aten to be a representation of the Moon. Recall also that I said the Harrian Sabians (whose origins are unknown) were star worshippers and that would have included the Moon and Planets too. If Abraham lived in Harran for any length of time, as the Bible suggests, this would have allowed him to imbue the Sabian philosophy, which, as I noted, seems to have been shared with the Druid builders of Stonehenge in England.

As regards the question of "Where was Arcadia?", the solution to this issue may lie in determining when the Siege of Troy took place. If it was before Abraham's time, then this might suggest that Abraham was either a refugee (perhaps as a child) or a descendant of Trojan refugees who fled Troy and Arcadia was, like the other Greek city states mentioned by Homer in the Iliad, in northern Europe. There has even been some suggestion that Trojan refugees made it as far as Anatolia, which may create a link with the Harrians and/or the Hittites. Alternatively, if it was after or during Abraham's lifetime, this may suggest that Abraham's links with Troy in England are tenuous at best but would establish a suitable timeframe for Meritaten/Hagar to take the Grail to Troy (Cambridge), in the persona of Helle, when going into exile from the desert of Paran - perhaps in the company of the Tuatha de Danaan. If it is the latter case, then this would suggest that the C's comparison of Abraham/Moses to Paris of Troy is just a metaphorical device, similar to the way in which the Jews would later use Greek (particularly Homeric) literature for the basis of their Biblical stories, as noted by Laura.

However, the fact that the C's described Arcadia as a crossroads, which is the literal meaning of the name "Harran", a city which had been within Sargon the Great's Empire of Akkadia (Arcadia?) seemed to good to ignore; particularly when this was also a metaphorical crossroads in the life of Abraham according to the traditional Biblical narrative. Harran also has those strong links with the Sabian star worshippers, who in turn would seem to have had putative links to that colony on the Giza Plateau, whose descendants wrote the Protocols of the Elders of Zion. Again a link too good to ignore for me.

Happy to discuss further though.​
 
The Merovingian dynasty of Franks has been traditionally considered the first race of kings in what is now France. France was named for their first ruler, Francio, whose lineage was said to be a descendant of Noah. Francio’s race migrated from the legendary city of Troy in northwest Turkey, bringing their royal bloodline to Gaul. They named their settlement Troyes after their hometown. Paris was named for the Greek hero whose elopement with Helen to Troy precipitated the Trojan War. The name Merovingian refers to Meroveus, the father of Childeric I, ruler of the Salian Franks. According to genealogist, Meroveus traced his lineage through his father, Clodion, back through Joseph of Arimathea to Jesus. A number of French historians wrote that this royal line, as well as all humans, were descendants of an extraterrestrial super race. Meroveus’s grandson, Clovis I, took control in about A.D. 482 and eventually extended his rule to include most of Gaul. Paris was his capital, a status which the city retained when Hugh Capet became king of France in 987.

According to the Priory of Sion’s Dossiers secret, the Merovingians were the descendants of Jesus and Mary Magdalene , living in southern France, intermarried with the Franks and founded the royal bloodlines. During that time Christianity was in trouble from various competing religions. When Clovis was baptized into Catholicism, nearly half of his troops followed his example. A great wave of conversions followed, and the Roman church was effectively saved from almost inevitable collapse. The Roman church had proclaimed him their ruler and pledged allegiance to both him and his descendants, a pledge they soon repudiated. Upon the death of Clovis in 511, his realm was shared by his four sons—Theuderic, Chodomir, Childebert, and Lothar. These brothers and their descendants fought against each other causing weakness within the kingdom which was quickly exploited by other competing interest. Papal authorities deliberately obscured the history of the Merovingians to secure their own power and prominence. Dagobert in 679 while hunting was murdered by a retainer of Pepin the Fat, one of his own officials with close ties to the Roman church. Following the death of Dagobert there was again division in the land. The surviving Merovingians were forced to yield power to court officials known as "Mayors of the Palace," known to be under the control of the Catholic church. In 750 the last Merovingian king, Childeric III, was deposed by one of these mayors—Pepin III the Short—who established the Carolingian dynasty so named for his father, Carolus or Charles Martel. The Merovingian monarchy had been strictly dynastic, but that tradition was destined to be overturned when Rome grasped the opportunity to create kings by papal authority. The Church’s long-awaited ideal had come to fruition and from that time onwards kings were endorsed and crowned only by self-styled Roman prerogative. But church authorities, fearful and jealous of this dynasty born of both priestly and political bloodlines, fomented the assassination of Dagobert and the usurpation of Childeric III to gain complete control over what was to become the nation of France. By the twelfth century, these families, knowing full well their heritage, mounted the expedition to Jerusalem—if not the entire First Crusade—to recover family genealogies from beneath Solomon’s Temple. They also created the secret Priory of Sion, and the Knights Templar as a front organization, to achieve this purpose. At this point restoration of the Merovingian monarchy may indeed have been a primary goal.

Until the fall of Constantinople in 1453, the Roman church stood as the ultimate authority in the Western world. Through the lending of both its money and blessings, the Vatican dominated kings and queens and controlled the lives of ordinary citizens through fear of excommunication and its infamous Inquisition. Europe’s best and brightest men were exhorted by the clergy to battle for God and country, and Christian Europe launched Crusade after Crusade against the Muslims holding the Holy Land of the Middle East. The power of the church became further centralized and all powerful. Some of these men, particularly in southern France with its association to certain legends concerning Mary Magdalene, had knowledge of secret traditions which ran counter to the teachings of the church. The Crusades presented a convenient excuse to lake the Holy Land and search for verification of these traditions. Once in the Holy Land, the Crusaders apparently found some verification of heretical ideas which supported elder traditions, principally those circulating in southern France, and differed from the teachings of the church. It was this conflict that led to the creation of societies which used secrecy as protection from the Roman church, which, in turn, began to guard its established theology with increasingly violent means.
These Crusaders over time became known as heretics and blasphemers and an attempt was made by the church to exterminate them. They were the Knights Templar, whose traditions live on today within Freemasonry.

The Middle East at the time was in turmoil. In 1099 the knights of the First Crusade, under Godfrey de Bouillon, had captured the Holy City of Jerusalem from the Muslims and created a Christian kingdom under that name. But the countryside was far from pacified and the journey from the eastern Mediterranean ports to the Holy City was perilous. So nine knights petitioned Jerusalem’s King Baldwin II to be allowed to form a military order and to be quartered in the east wing of his palace which was adjacent to the recently captured Al-Aqsa Mosque, former site of King Solomon’s Temple. Baldwin agreed and even paid the knights a small stipend. During the first nine years of their existence, this unofficial order recruited no new members, an odd circumstance for a small group claiming to protect Jerusalem’s roadways. The idea that a mere nine knights could effectively patrol the roads leading to Jerusalem is preposterous. It is obvious that the Templars had another reason altogether for journeying to the Holy Land. They made little effort to guard the roads, leaving such protection to the Hospitallers. Instead, the Templars kept close to their quarters and excavated for treasure deep under the ruins of the first permanent Hebrew Temple (Solomon). It was during their excavations that the Templars acquired scrolls of hidden knowledge, again most probably dealing with the life of Jesus and his associations with the Essenes and Gnostics. They also reportedly acquired the legendary Tables of Testimony given to Moses as well as other holy relics which could have been used to validate their claims as an alternative religious authority to the Roman church. Such reports were well supported by the discovery of a document etched on copper among the Dead Sea Scrolls found at Qumran on the northwest shore of the Dead Sea in 1947. Their newfound wealth as well as their possession of lost documents also could explain the rapid acceptance of the Templars by awestruck church leaders. Having accepted no new members for almost a decade and claiming to be poor even though most of them were members of or connected to royal families the order’s fortunes suddenly soared. Their leaders began traveling, recruiting members and gaining acceptance from both the church and European royalty.

On January 31, 1128, Templar grand masters traveled to Troyes about seventy-five miles southeast of Paris to plead the case for official recognition by the church before a specially convened council. This Council of Troyes was made up of Catholic archbishops, bishops, and abbots. With the added endorsement of King Baldwin, the council approved the Templars as an official military and religious order. This resulted in Pope Honorius II approving a "Rule" or constitution for the Knights Templar which sanctioned contributions to the order. To support the religious side of the order, the Rule, among other things, ordered all new Templars to make a vow of chastity and of poverty, which included turning over all their property to the order. On the military side, Templars were forbidden to retreat in combat unless their opponents outnumbered them more than three to one and their commander approved a withdrawal. The structure of the order was a forerunner of Freemasonry. Each local branch was called a "Temple" and its ruling commander reported to and pledged obedience to the grand master. The power and prestige of the order increased rapidly, and at the zenith of its popularity counted a membership of about twenty thousand knights. Contributions from royalty and the nobles were not just in coin or land. Members received lordships, baronies, landlord status, and castles.

In 1139 Pope Innocent II proclaimed that the Templars would henceforth answer to no other authority but the papacy. This license to operate outside any local control meant an exemption from taxes, which considerably increased the wealth of the order. The pope also granted the Templars the most unusual right to build their own churches. The knights were a law unto themselves. They offered right of sanctuary, like any church. They convened their own courts to try cases of local crime. They ran their own markets and fairs. They were exempt from tolls on roads, bridges and rivers. Pilgrims, merchants, officials, and the clergy faced many hazards and obstacles traveling in Europe and the Holy Land. They were prey for ferrymen, toll collectors, innkeepers, and even church authorities demanding alms, not to mention highway robbers and thieves. To protect against such misfortunes, the Templars developed a system whereby the traveler could deposit funds to cover travel expenses with the commander of the local Temple and receive a specially coded receipt. This receipt was issued in the form of a letter of credit, redeemable from any Temple. At the end of his journey, the traveler would receive either a cash refund of his account balance or a bill to cover any overdraft. It was a system which closely resembled both a bank check and the modern credit card. Along with banking practices, the Templars brought to Europe their acquired knowledge of architecture, astronomy, mathematics, medicine, and medical techniques. In less than one hundred years after formation of the order, the Knights Templar had evolved into the medieval equivalent of today’s multinational corporation. The Templars thrived, thanks to the technologies and philosophies discovered in Jerusalem, while the church became more and more antagonistic, gradually realizing the threat posed by their knowledge. The Templars, in their turn, grew antagonistic toward the church.

To be continued.....
Thank you for your comments. However, having read them, I do wonder if you have read the earlier posts on this thread, which dealt with the Merovingians and the rise of the Templars. No doubt you have quoted from a good article on this subject, although it would have been nice to have had a source quoted. Please also note that it not an absolute given that today's Freemasons are the successors of the Templars, although there are many who support this hypothesis, including many Freemasons. Hence, the jury is still out on this one, although I am certainly not unsympathetic to the idea myself. However, we should bear in mind that the C's have suggested the Templars' fall from grace was a set-up by the Rosicrucians, so the Templars may not necessarily have been guilty as charged and could still have been loyal to the Church, if not the reigning pontiff at that time, Pope Clement. We have also discussed the Priory of Sion’s Dossiers Secrets at some length, noting that they are most probably a smokescreen (as the C's themselves suggested) for something else - quite possibly the Rosicrucians given Pierre Plantard's links.​

You start by saying:

"The Merovingian dynasty of Franks has been traditionally considered the first race of kings in what is now France. France was named for their first ruler, Francio, whose lineage was said to be a descendant of Noah. Francio’s race migrated from the legendary city of Troy in northwest Turkey, bringing their royal bloodline to Gaul. They named their settlement Troyes after their hometown. Paris was named for the Greek hero whose elopement with Helen to Troy precipitated the Trojan War."

This is all good stuff but given that the C's have supported Iman Wilkens' theory, as set out in his book 'Where Troy Once Stood', that Troy was in today's Cambridge in England and the Trojans' enemies (other Celts) came from today's France and other parts of northern Europe, I think we can discount the idea that "Francio’s race migrated from the legendary city of Troy in northwest Turkey, bringing their royal bloodline to Gaul". I would not rule out that the Merovingian Franks may have migrated from today's Turkey (or the Caucasus) at some stage but they should not be readily linked with a Troy that is located in northwest Turkey. By supporting Wilkens, the C's would seem to have ruled out Schliemann's theory that Troy was located in Turkey. Moreover, the present town of Troyes in France is often thought of as having the shape of a champagne cork. This is also similar to the shape of a mushroom, which, according to Laura, creates a link with Mycenae in Greece, the name meaning "place of the mushrooms". Laura therefore believes the name of Troyes replaced the town's earlier name of Mycenae, in order to commemorate Agamemnon's (the King of Argos) victory over the Trojans. Wilkens thought Mycenae may have been a contraction of a name meaning "Mysteries-on-Seine" - suggesting a link with the Greek word "musterion" meaning secret, perhaps indicating a place of gnostic initiation. See Laura's 'Jupiter, Nostradamus, Edgar Cayce, and the Return of the Mongols'. Wilkens also thought that Homer's The Odyssey was an initiation story and clearly a quest for the Grail. The Odyssey was therefore to him, the oldest epic about the Grail. To me that is another reason for thinking the Grail may once have been in Troy hiding behind the persona of Helen.

Please feel free to post a follow-up by all means but it might help, I think, to read through the whole thread first to see how the narrative has been evolving in order to avoid duplication of effort.​
 
Thank you for your comments. However, having read them, I do wonder if you have read the earlier posts on this thread, which dealt with the Merovingians and the rise of the Templars. No doubt you have quoted from a good article on this subject, although it would have been nice to have had a source quoted. Please also note that it not an absolute given that today's Freemasons are the successors of the Templars, although there are many who support this hypothesis, including many Freemasons. Hence, the jury is still out on this one, although I am certainly not unsympathetic to the idea myself. However, we should bear in mind that the C's have suggested the Templars' fall from grace was a set-up by the Rosicrucians, so the Templars may not necessarily have been guilty as charged and could still have been loyal to the Church, if not the reigning pontiff at that time, Pope Clement. We have also discussed the Priory of Sion’s Dossiers Secrets at some length, noting that they are most probably a smokescreen (as the C's themselves suggested) for something else - quite possibly the Rosicrucians given Pierre Plantard's links.​

You start by saying:

"The Merovingian dynasty of Franks has been traditionally considered the first race of kings in what is now France. France was named for their first ruler, Francio, whose lineage was said to be a descendant of Noah. Francio’s race migrated from the legendary city of Troy in northwest Turkey, bringing their royal bloodline to Gaul. They named their settlement Troyes after their hometown. Paris was named for the Greek hero whose elopement with Helen to Troy precipitated the Trojan War."

This is all good stuff but given that the C's have supported Iman Wilkens' theory, as set out in his book 'Where Troy Once Stood', that Troy was in today's Cambridge in England and the Trojans' enemies (other Celts) came from today's France and other parts of northern Europe, I think we can discount the idea that "Francio’s race migrated from the legendary city of Troy in northwest Turkey, bringing their royal bloodline to Gaul". I would not rule out that the Merovingian Franks may have migrated from today's Turkey (or the Caucasus) at some stage but they should not be readily linked with a Troy that is located in northwest Turkey. By supporting Wilkens, the C's would seem to have ruled out Schliemann's theory that Troy was located in Turkey. Moreover, the present town of Troyes in France is often thought of as having the shape of a champagne cork. This is also similar to the shape of a mushroom, which, according to Laura, creates a link with Mycenae in Greece, the name meaning "place of the mushrooms". Laura therefore believes the name of Troyes replaced the town's earlier name of Mycenae, in order to commemorate Agamemnon's (the King of Argos) victory over the Trojans. Wilkens thought Mycenae may have been a contraction of a name meaning "Mysteries-on-Seine" - suggesting a link with the Greek word "musterion" meaning secret, perhaps indicating a place of gnostic initiation. See Laura's 'Jupiter, Nostradamus, Edgar Cayce, and the Return of the Mongols'. Wilkens also thought that Homer's The Odyssey was an initiation story and clearly a quest for the Grail. The Odyssey was therefore to him, the oldest epic about the Grail. To me that is another reason for thinking the Grail may once have been in Troy hiding behind the persona of Helen.

Please feel free to post a follow-up by all means but it might help, I think, to read through the whole thread first to see how the narrative has been evolving in order to avoid duplication of effort.​
Can I ask what you are trying to get out of this thread? You seem to be upset by everything I said. I'm not saying everything I said will be absolutely correct but I do have a point eventually, just wait until I get there. I understand quite a bit of what I said is different than Laura's interpretation. I know I get banned a number of time already, but she usually let me back after C agreed with what I said. Usually I tried to explain using C interpretation. I don't write outside quotes because Laura got upset when I brought outside ideas. If I recalled she told me to make my own blog because I had different ideas but later someone in forum found a quote that C said so before. I get that on a lot of my explanation, psycho, making things up, drunk, don't like my interpretation just wait few months then a lot of people start repeating what I said.
As I said before the cabal/secret society work on a spiritual matrix, if you understand what they are doing it isn't as psycho as people in the forum make it. Short summary, they are trying to make it hard to achieve social memory complex. If you want to make the 4d sto harvest it isn't important who is right or wrong, better, smarter, etc. We all need to work together toward common goal. How we treat each other become the social memory complex. Need to serve other with love.
 
Can I ask what you are trying to get out of this thread? You seem to be upset by everything I said. I'm not saying everything I said will be absolutely correct but I do have a point eventually, just wait until I get there. I understand quite a bit of what I said is different than Laura's interpretation. I know I get banned a number of time already, but she usually let me back after C agreed with what I said. Usually I tried to explain using C interpretation. I don't write outside quotes because Laura got upset when I brought outside ideas. If I recalled she told me to make my own blog because I had different ideas but later someone in forum found a quote that C said so before. I get that on a lot of my explanation, psycho, making things up, drunk, don't like my interpretation just wait few months then a lot of people start repeating what I said.
As I said before the cabal/secret society work on a spiritual matrix, if you understand what they are doing it isn't as psycho as people in the forum make it. Short summary, they are trying to make it hard to achieve social memory complex. If you want to make the 4d sto harvest it isn't important who is right or wrong, better, smarter, etc. We all need to work together toward common goal. How we treat each other become the social memory complex. Need to serve other with love.
This thread started out of the interpretation of an obscure quote in the transcripts, which I thought was about the toppling of the Stuart dynasty in England. It commenced by focusing first on Alton Towers and Sir Francis Bacon, who many think was the leader of the Rosicrucians in early 17th Century Europe (as well as being the inspiration behind the works of William Shakespeare). It has broadened out to cover the Knights Templar who were seemingly the victims of the Rosicrucians and their links with the medieval Priory of Sion. It has also looked at the real mystery behind Rennes-le-Chateau and the mysterious Parish Priest Berenger Sauniere, which seems to have involved the Rosicrucians and the painter Nicolas Poussin and his work The Shepherds of Arcadia. I believe the real mystery is the whereabouts of the Holy Grail, the Matriarch Stone or Merkhaba and not hidden Visigothic treasure or the treasure of the Jewish Temple. This quest has also encompassed the mysterious alien TDARM buried on Oak Island, whose burial may be linked with Sir Francis Bacon and the strange Enclave of Alchemists in the Pyrenees the C's have spoken of. We have also looked at the progenitors of the Freemasons and the Rosicrucians and have considered the Essenes, who, like the Freemasons, share an ancient pedigree. We have along the way looked at Dr John Dee, a contemporary of Bacon and a fellow member of the Court of Queen Elizabeth I, and both mens' connections to alchemy and spying and their roles in helping to launch the Renaissance alongside Leonardo da Vinci and other great esoterecists of the age.

This has at times meant looking at a set of obscure and cryptic clues and statements made by the C's in order to tease out their possible meanings. Many of these clues are multifaceted. We have also considered the true history of what was going on in the Exodus from Egypt, since it would appear that Abraham, in his guise as Moses. possessed the Holy Grail as a result of Nefertiti's betrayal of her husband, the Pharaoh Akhenaten. We have also focused on the role of Princess Meritaten, Akhenaten and Nefertiti's daughter who in the Bible is known as Hagar the Egyptian - the last living member of the Perseid family - who through their progenitor Perseus, seem to have possessed the Grail. What happened to Hagar may hold the key to the famous Siege of Troy in Cambridge, England and may in turn shed light on the famous Tuatha de Danaan of Irish legend and the goddess Brigid.

The reality is that the STS 'powers that be' who run the matrix here on the big blue marble have buried the truth and the purpose of this thread and others like it on the Forum is to try and shed light on that hidden truth where we can. Finding the Holy Grail would be the ultimate expose of that truth. Solving the clues along the way, will also help us to build our magnetic centres. Laura has done a lot of the spadework but it is up to us and others on the Forum to assist her in this endeavour. I would be the first to admit that I have learned a lot from the discoveries and insights found on the Forum brought to the table by Forum members. Moreover, those who have useful knowledge should share it for the benefit of others.

Hence, if you think you can bring new insights or angles to what has been discovered so far, please feel free to post articles. I only suggested you read the thread from the beginning in order to get a feel for the subject matter and avoid reinventing the wheel again. For example, your post giving a background to the Merovingians and the Knights Templar has previously been covered before by the attached article. You will find that The Templars and their involvement in the Grail mystery and with the Ark of the Covenant has also been covered in other articles on this thread too. However, as I said, new insights are always welcome. For example, I hope to explore the relationship between the Templars and the Assassins in an upcoming post, since the C's have mentioned the importance of this relationship in the transcripts, particularly as regards the secrets of alchemy. The same is also true of the ancient Essenes, where new insights would again be welcome. So, if after reading what has gone before, you think that you can add something new, please feel free to post away.​
 

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I believe that the pansophic way of understanding myths can offer a new light about the holy grail. Pansophy is basically about identifying common patterns found in myths and initiation rites.

The pansophic legend states that in several myths, there is a common theme of a slain hero meeting a "goddess" who grants him a gift.

I found this info from these websites:

hxxps://pansophers.com/pansophy-secret/
hxxps://pansophers.com/hiram-abiff-osiris/

The various myths that consist of this pansophic legends are:

Hiram Abif is slain in Masonry
  1. Virgin Maiden stands next to a broken pillar. (Albert Pike equated her with Isis)
  2. She plants an acacia sprig upon his tomb, in American version of the freemason myth
  3. HA is twice buried. (I'm not sure if this is found in all pansophic myths)
Osiris is slain by Set. Different versions differ on how: trapped in box, cut into pieces or both
  1. Fish ate Osiris’ phallus.
  2. Isis gives golden phallus and is aided by Thoth .
King Arthur is defeated
  1. Broken sword.
  2. Lady of the Lake gives new sword Excalibur (apparently from Wels Caledvwlch probably a variant of the legendary Irish sword name Caladbolg which might mean literally "hard-belly," which is commonly thought to mean "voracious." I think this may refer to pregnancy.)
The Fisher King appears first in Chrétien de Troyes' Perceval, the Story of the Grail in the late 12th century, but the character's roots may lie in Celtic mythology.[1] He may be derived more or less directly from the figure of Brân the Blessed in the Mabinogion.[2] In the Second Branch, Bran has a cauldron that can resurrect the dead (albeit imperfectly; those thus revived cannot speak) which he gives to the king of Ireland as a wedding gift for him and Bran's sister Branwen. Later, Bran wages war on the Irish and is wounded in the foot or leg, and the cauldron is destroyed. He asks his followers to sever his head and take it back to Britain, and his head continues talking and keeps them company on their trip. The group lands on the island of Gwales, where they spend 80 years in a castle of joy and abundance, but finally they leave and bury Bran's head in London.

Percival replaces King Arthur as the good knight.
  1. Sees bleeding lance
  2. Sees the Grail.
Perceval remembers that his mother fainted when he went off to become a knight, and goes to visit her. During his journey, he comes across the Fisher King fishing in a boat on a river, who invites him to stay at his castle. While there, Perceval witnesses a strange procession in which young men and women carry magnificent objects from one chamber to another. First comes a young man carrying a bleeding lance, then two boys carrying candelabra. Then a beautiful young girl emerges bearing an elaborately decorated graal. Finally another maiden carried a silver platter. They passed before him at each course of the meal. Perceval, who had been trained by his guardian Gornemant not to talk too much, remains silent through all of this. He wakes up the next morning alone and resumes his journey home. He encounters a girl in mourning, who admonishes him for not asking about the grail, as that would have healed the wounded king. He also learns that his mother has died.

Christian Rosenkreuz hides in a tomb after restoring lost knowledge to Europe. But it gets lost again.
  1. He dreams of Venus who holds a horn.

Pansophy views the grail as a woman, an "Isis". It fits with what the Cs agreed about the Holy Grail being a "holy bloodline" in the first ever question about the grail. However, the later mentions of the holy grail links it to an object buried in France, and also in Magnetic Island in Australia. The last mention of the grail links it to "giant plasma figures in the sky". (Quotes below) Whether they are one and the same is unclear to me. Perhaps the woman has the ability to create plasma figures in the sky and her body is transported to different places?

I think finding patterns in different myths is a useful way of deciphering symbols and past events. Having different sources pointing to similar ideas helps ensure the information is reliable. Information from "higher sources" is not always true (look at what happened to native americans and m oses.) By accident or design. So, it's better to take it with a pinch of salt.

5 October 1994
Q: (L) Is that, as some people claim, the true meaning of the search for the Holy Grail, that it is not a cup but the "Sang Real", or holy blood line?
{See "Holy Blood, Holy Grail." by Lincoln, Leigh and Baigent.}

A: Yes.

15 April 2000​


Q: (Johan) What was it that I found on the beach on Magnetic Island in 1985? (note: west point, australia)


A: Looking for meaning? Start at the centre.


Q: (Johan) Center of Australia? Center of what?


A: You have been to the "centre."


Q: (Johan) I am not too sure that this means a physical place. For me, what I found was the center of knowledge. It started at Magnetic Island, and took 12 years for me to realize what it meant. For me it was the grail, or the representation of the grail.


A: You have the stem, now wait for the flower to "bloom."


Q: (Johan) And now I am going to be back in the same place! Is the flower going to bloom where I found the stem?


A: The locator is not so important as the located.


Q: (L) Where you find it is not so important as what you found. (Johan) Yes, that's true. I don't know what your story is with the Holy Grail, but for me, it took me twelve years to understand what I found which was my interpretation of what the Grail was - it represented it. That's interesting with the bloom...


A: We thrive on clues and so do you!

10 August 2001​

Q: Yeah, when I saw that picture on his webpage, I knew he'd been projecting that. He was sitting there focusing on it so I would see it. I told you, I showed it to you, didn't I? That was what I saw, that twisted up figure 8 thing. [Laughter.] I couldn't figure it out, what in the world it was. Is there an object buried in France I'm supposed to find?
A: Yes.
Q: Are we going to find it?
A: Yes.
Q: Can you tell us what year we'll be finding it
A: Two (tape ended and was blank for some time then picked back up with a segment of what sounded like a heartbeat
Q: What is the object?
A: Holy grail.

Q: What is the holy grail? {Tape noise gets very, very loud here. Planchette was spinning around and drawing figures.}
Q: Huh. I don't know if they were drawing something or just playing. Guess they're not going to answer that one. Well, anything you want to ask? (A) Yes. It's pretty fun to be talking, so we're talking ... it's fun.


16 July 2016​

Q: (L) Considering that sort of charge in the atmosphere kind of leads to the idea that we could be entering a period where some of those things described by the ancients like these giant plasma figures in the sky could begin occurring. Is that correct?

A: Yes. Holy Grail!

Q: (Pierre) The chalice shape of the Z pinch phenomenon.


A: Sheets of rain! Transiting realities?


Q: (L) That's a reference to a previous session where "sheets of rain" and "holy grail" were mentioned in the same session I think... Is the basic idea of the Holy Grail actually some kind of memory or record of the manifestation of some gigantic plasma phenomenon that opens a portal into another reality? Like the strange tale of the castle of the Fisher King where time stopped? And possibly something that can be utilized…?


A: Close!


Q: (L) So in other words, those things you talked about many times before – time travel and interdimensional transport - where it took like mega or gigavolts of electricity to open portals or operate... the Philadelphia Experiment type things...


A: Yes, now you are tracking well!
 
I believe that the pansophic way of understanding myths can offer a new light about the holy grail. Pansophy is basically about identifying common patterns found in myths and initiation rites.

The pansophic legend states that in several myths, there is a common theme of a slain hero meeting a "goddess" who grants him a gift.

I found this info from these websites:

hxxps://pansophers.com/pansophy-secret/
hxxps://pansophers.com/hiram-abiff-osiris/

The various myths that consist of this pansophic legends are:

Hiram Abif is slain in Masonry
  1. Virgin Maiden stands next to a broken pillar. (Albert Pike equated her with Isis)
  2. She plants an acacia sprig upon his tomb, in American version of the freemason myth
  3. HA is twice buried. (I'm not sure if this is found in all pansophic myths)
Osiris is slain by Set. Different versions differ on how: trapped in box, cut into pieces or both
  1. Fish ate Osiris’ phallus.
  2. Isis gives golden phallus and is aided by Thoth .
King Arthur is defeated
  1. Broken sword.
  2. Lady of the Lake gives new sword Excalibur (apparently from Wels Caledvwlch probably a variant of the legendary Irish sword name Caladbolg which might mean literally "hard-belly," which is commonly thought to mean "voracious." I think this may refer to pregnancy.)


Percival replaces King Arthur as the good knight.
  1. Sees bleeding lance
  2. Sees the Grail.


Christian Rosenkreuz hides in a tomb after restoring lost knowledge to Europe. But it gets lost again.
  1. He dreams of Venus who holds a horn.

Pansophy views the grail as a woman, an "Isis". It fits with what the Cs agreed about the Holy Grail being a "holy bloodline" in the first ever question about the grail. However, the later mentions of the holy grail links it to an object buried in France, and also in Magnetic Island in Australia. The last mention of the grail links it to "giant plasma figures in the sky". (Quotes below) Whether they are one and the same is unclear to me. Perhaps the woman has the ability to create plasma figures in the sky and her body is transported to different places?

I think finding patterns in different myths is a useful way of deciphering symbols and past events. Having different sources pointing to similar ideas helps ensure the information is reliable. Information from "higher sources" is not always true (look at what happened to native americans and m oses.) By accident or design. So, it's better to take it with a pinch of salt.
This is an excellent find. Where you say: "I believe that the pansophic way of understanding myths can offer a new light about the holy grail" is, I believe, absolutely correct. Many ancient myths relate to technological devices and hyperdimensional physics that were beyond the understanding of the recipients, who did not have our current scientific level of understanding (mind you ours' is primitive in comparison to that of the Atlanteans). However, these myths and the corresponding symbolism were used to preserve the ancient high knowledge. In modern times, others have seized on this concept, including the Nazis, who took esoteric studies very seriously and Robert Oppenheimer, the father of the Atomic Bomb, who drew inspiration from the Sanskrit Vedic texts. One other person who follows this line of reasoning is one of my favourite authors, Joseph Farrell. I will come back to him later.

What is the Holy Grail?

The issue of what is the Holy Grail is definitely a confusing one. As you show in the quotes from the transcripts above, it is supposedly an object buried in France, a holy bloodline and it can also be linked with the production of plasma shapes (blooms). Very confusing in many ways. Although I am well aware of the metaphysical (alchemical) aspects of the Grail, I have to a large extent focused on the physical object buried in France and I hope to shed more light on this in upcoming posts. The C's have also linked the Grail to the Merkaba or Matriarch Stone. In your description of Pansophy, you mention the legend of Bran's magical talking head (which equates to the singing head of Orpheus as well) and Isis (the Goddess of the Throne) being viewed by Pansophy as the Grail - a woman. It is for this reason that I think the physical object being referred to by the C's as the Grail is Baphomet (the Baptism of Metis - wisdom or Sophia, a woman's name), the pure crystal skull revered by the Knights Templar. It has never been found. I believe this skull was in fact a data bank and a focusing device that could be used by those of the Kentakkian holy bloodline to manifest things (I suggest Meritaten or Hagar, as the last of the Perseid bloodline, had this innate capability). It is not technology in the strict sense of that term, for it is intended to be used in conjunction with the human mind. It can certainly be linked to technology though and was no doubt used in the distant past in this manner - for example we know the Grail was used to transport a group of Kentakkians to Earth through time and space (think here of the Egyptian Solar Barque or the Boat of a Million Years, which the C's said was a time machine).

The Book of Thoth and the Emerald Tablet

I would not even rule out the skull as being the legendary Book of Thoth, which according to Manly P Hall (in his Secret Teachings of all Ages) was kept in a golden box (the Ark?) in the inner sanctuary of the Temple. "There was but one key and this was in the possession of the "Master of the Mysteries", the highest initiate of the Hermetic Arcanum. He alone knew what was written in the sacred book. The Book of Thoth [or Hermes] was lost to the ancient world with the decay of the Mysteries but its faithful carried it sealed in the sacred casket into another land". I don't know about you, but this sounds like the Ark of the Covenant and Moses and his Israelites carrying it off into the desert to me. In fairness, Hall thinks the Book is a document but a document has only a finite shelf life, whereas a crystal storage device can last an eternity - so there may also be a link here with the Emerald Tablets of Thoth, that could in turn be the same thing as the Tablets of Destiny (see more below on this).

Farrell goes into far more detail about this than I can here. However, in brief, Farrell does point out that the Book of Thoth was supposed to contain the secret processes by which the regeneration of mankind was to be accomplished and also served as the key to Thoth-Hermes' other writings. As Farrell also points out, the figure of Thoth-Hermes is "of first importance to Masonic scholars, because he was the author of the initiatory rituals, which were borrowed from the Mysteries established by Hermes." This connection of Thoth-Hermes with ante-diluvian knowledge* and its survival in Masonic traditions is made even more important by the identification of Thoth with the figure of Hiram Abiff, a figure who plays a central role in the death-resurrection rituals of the first three degrees of Masonry." Thus we can see that the Masonic legend of Hiram Abiff may be linked to the finding and resurrection of Osiris in order to create the new god-man in his son Horus and also with the finding of the Emerald Tablet (or Tables) of Thoth. See my earlier posts on this subject:

Alton Towers, Sir Francis Bacon and the Rosicrucians and

*Manly Hall also claimed that 42 volumes of Thoth-Hermes' works were removed from the Library of Alexandria prior to it burning and secreted with "initiates" who buried them in the desert for safekeeping.

As Andrew Collins explained in his article: Giza’s Cave Underworld Rediscovered – It is the Entrance to the Tomb of Hermes? - Graham Hancock Official Website

"According to medieval Arab and European sources the cave-tomb of Hermes (Idris, or Enoch, as he was called in Arabic) housed not only the earthly remains of its owner, but also the so-called Emerald Tablet (also known as the Tabula Smaragdina, the "table of green stone") on which was written the "secret of Hermes", or the secrets of creation. Is it possible that legends relating to the presence in the cave-tomb of the Emerald Tablet is a metaphor for a previously unknown structure at Giza with green stone walls and inscriptions recording the secrets of Egyptian creation? Alternatively, perhaps the Emerald Tablet really did once exist, and was discovered here at some point in the past."

May I suggest that it was Thutmose IV who found it, after the Tablet/Table had been buried and he was the direct ancestor of Pharaoh Akhenaten, who we know had the Grail in his possession.

"The Emerald Tablet, also known as the Smaragdine Table, or Tabula Smaragdina, is a compact and cryptic piece of the Hermetica reputed to contain the secret of the prima materia and its transmutation. It was highly regarded by European alchemists as the foundation of their art and its Hermetic tradition. The original source of the Emerald Tablet is unknown. Although Hermes Trismegistus is the author named in the text."

Was this the same "table" the C's were referring to here:
A: And you may see the connection. Why do you suppose alchemists knew of the secrets brought "to the table" by the Maya/Egyptians?

and here:

Session dated 12 July 1997:

Q: What was the Eleusian mystery? Is this what we are supposed to be tracking back to? I mean, this is sort of where I have ended up?

A: One leg of the table.


This idea of the Emerald Tablet or Holy Grail being hidden in a cave still persists to more modern times for in Wolfram von Eschenbach's Parzival, the hero Parsifal (Perceval) makes a visit to a pious hermit named Trevrizent in the cave of the Fontane la Salvaesche. Quoting from Otto Rahn in his book Crusade Against the Grail:​

"Trevrizent the hermit lived in a cell next to the La Salvaesche fountain. He led young Parsifal to a second cave in which an uncovered “altar” was located. One cave in front of the cathedral of Lombrives is called the Hermit’s Cave, and not very far away, a second one is called the Cave of Fontanet. In its deepest chamber stands a snow-white stalagmite: the Altar.

Just thirty years ago, four young men went into that cave and disappeared forever. Their bones must have found an eternal resting place in one of the still-undiscovered Phoenician or Phocian funeral chambers. Or did the four find the pathway that leads to the summits of the Tabor and Montségur? Was it one of these young men who wrote the question on a wall in the cave’s entrance in big letters: Why did I not …?
In the caves of Sabarthès, a question comes to mind, but there is no known answer. When, as if by magic, my lamp conjured the Altar out of the darkness of the Cave of Fontanet, I would often ask myself: What sort of reliquary was placed on the altar in Trevrizent’s cell before which Parsifal was initiated in the secrets of the Grail?

An altar-stone stood there bare of its cloth;

On it a reliquary could be seen


WOLFRAM VON ESCHENBACH

Was this reliquary casket part of “Solomon’s Treasure, ...”

Trevrizent kept the reliquary in his cave as well as the “Grail legend.” The two were inseparable. Were the reliquary’s treasure and the “original source of the legend” brought to his cave to protect them from the infidels?


According to Spanish ballads, the Table of Solomon, also known as the “casket” or reliquary, was kept in the “enchanted grotto of Hercules.” It was said that the Gothic king Rodrigo penetrated the cave, and found the casket in a dark corner with three chalices in it.

Moreover, the C's told us in the Session dated 20 June 1998:

Q: What was the head worshipped by the Templars that was supposed to have been called "Baphomet?"

A: Seer of the passage.

Q: What does that mean?

A: Remember, secrets of Knights Templar wer
e kept in caves guided by eternally burning lamps.

And let us remember that Wolfram von Eschenbach firmly held that the Knights Templar guarded the Grail. So is the Holy Grail still hidden in a cave located somewhere in the French Pyrenees?​

The Great Pyramid of Giza as a Maser and Osiris Dismembered

However, I also believe the Grail was used by the Ancient Egyptians in the Great Pyramid, which Christopher Dunn thinks was a huge Maser structure - i.e., "a microwave amplification by stimulated emission of radiation", a device that produces coherent electromagnetic waves through amplification by stimulated emission. Christopher Dunn, a professional engineer, has advanced this maser theory and his arguments are very cogent. The C's have said that the Great Pyramid at Giza was used for many purposes, energy production being just one of them. For your information, Masers can be used to transmit electricity. However, Joseph Farrell goes one step further by proposing that the Great Pyramid was the centre piece of a massive weapons complex at Giza. He wrote three books on the subject, which he called the Giza Death Star. For those who are interested, I attach a link to his second book in the trilogy - The Giza Death Star Deployed.
See:https://projectavalon.net/Joseph_Fa...and_Engineering_of_the_Great_Pyramid_2003.pdf

I would recommend reading it because his ideas link with so much discussed here on this thread but his books are admittedly tough reads. Basically, Farrell believes that the Great Pyramid was used as a weapon system in a war possibly against alien adversaries or human opponents. This war was remembered in myth as a war between the Olympians and the Titans or in Norse mythology as the war between the gods of Asgard and the Ice Giants. It is also recalled in the Mesopotamian/Sumerian legends of the Anunnaki and the story of Ninurta. Farrell also references the Babylonian story contained in the Enuma Elish setting out a description of the planet Tiamat's destruction, which clearly would seem to be Kantek or Krypton, which involved the use of the fabled 'Tablets of Destiny' that conveyed great power to their possessor - a divine power. A weapon of this nature would need to be accurately focused using phased array coherence technology (like radar), which could explain why the Great Pyramid's sides are slightly concave (as parabolic reflectors) in design. The Grail would be an excellent focusing device when harnessed to advanced aiming technology.

You may also recall that the C's said in the transcripts that the Great Pyramid was at one time remodelled or refurbished. This suggests it was a ruin at some stage and this is borne out by the story of Thuthmose IV and the Dream Stele, where he had to reinstate the Sphinx to its former glory by digging it out of the sand. I would suggest that the whole complex had been abandoned until that time. The question is - how did it get to be a ruin? The story of Osiris's dismemberment may be the clue. Rather than the cutting into pieces of a person or god, could we be looking at the dismantling of a sophisticated machine with the missing phallus being the key element? Indeed, it was Thoth (Hermes) who helped Isis to put Osiris's body back together again. Do not rule out here the influence of aliens in the refurbishment of the Great Pyramid and the reassembling of Osiris's body either (think of that strange depiction of Ptah I posted earlier on this thread). Was this perhaps the missing phallus of Osiris?

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The Pillar of Osiris
Osiris’ pillar was considered a "ladder to heaven" - Jacob's Ladder perhaps?

Please note that Farrell also makes the connection between the Tablets of Destiny or Emerald Tablets being used as communication devices. He pointed out that Enki was unable to communicate with the other Anunnaki when Inanna stole the ME's or Emerald Tablet from him. Recall also that the Ark of the Covenant was used by Moses to communicate with Yahweh. The C's said this was by means of radio waves and we know that pure quartz crystal has long been used in radios. The crystal could therefore have been used for tuning in to the correct radio frequency.

Plasma Discharges

Farrell includes a lot of high powered physics in his books to support his arguments. This includes references to the hyperdimensional tetrahedral physics referred to in earlier posts on this thread and recently on the 23 April 2022 thread. I haven't read his books in years but plan to do so again. He is also into plasma physics big time. Hence, where you refer to this excerpt from the transcripts from the session dated 16 July 2016:
Q: (L) Considering that sort of charge in the atmosphere kind of leads to the idea that we could be entering a period where some of those things described by the ancients like these giant plasma figures in the sky could begin occurring. Is that correct?

A: Yes. Holy Grail!

Q: (Pierre) The chalice shape of the Z pinch phenomenon.

A: Sheets of rain! Transiting realities?


this made me think of Farrell, who has referred to ancient petroglyphs that display such plasma effects, including those carved by North American Indians. Indeed, Farrell has used the example shown below in one of his books:

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The ancients were not just doodling when they spent millions of man-hours carving rock art forms around the world. They were reproducing dramatic plasma discharge forms seen in their spectacular sky.
"[Anthony} Peratt’s investigation of rock art led him to collect hundreds of thousands of digital photographs of petroglyphs (images scratched or pecked into rock) and pictographs (images painted on rock). He has classified them into 84 categories that correspond with the quasi-stable forms of the laboratory plasma discharges.

“Many petroglyphs, apparently recorded several millennia ago, have a plasma discharge or instability counterpart, some on a one-to-one or overlay basis. More striking is that the images recorded on rock are the only images found in extreme energy density experiments; no other morphology types or patterns are observed,” Peratt writes, “The inward rise on axis along with the upward folding of the outer edges of the carved lines and transition to edge curling, a phenomena [sic] recorded in intense electrical discharge radiographs, could not have been known to prehistoric man unless he witnessed the same event in the sky.

Peratt surmised that a surge of power in the currents driving the auroras had set off the sequence of instabilities. The entire pre-historical sky around the globe would have appeared to come alive with a shimmering, shining “enhanced aurora”* that stretched from pole to pole. It would have featured exactly those abstract figures and stick men and strange animal-like shapes that appear only in rock art and in high-energy plasma discharges. He contends that the ancient artists were witnesses to this “enhanced aurora” and that they recorded what they saw on the most durable “recording device” available—rock surfaces.


*Are these connected to our sheets of rain I wonder?

Thunderbolts of the Gods. See: Plasma in the Lab and in Rock Art for more on this.

Farrell also devotes a whole chapter to the Thunderbolts of the Gods in his book The Cosmic War.
See Read Download The Cosmic War PDF – PDF Download

However, although I have not been able to track down an example from his books yet, Farrell has also spoken of a trident plasma effect that looks very much like the traditional image of a trident and makes one immediately think of the trident of Neptune or Poseidon and even Britannia (the Celtic goddess Brig, Bride or Brigid - although Manannán mac Lir was the Irish/Isle of Man god of the sea) too. Again, we may also recall the high tech weaponry of the Tuatha de Danaan here. Were these plasma weapons? The mention of trident also makes me think of the C's reference to the "holder of the Trent" since in the Green language, Trent may be viewed as an abbreviation of "trident". As I have said before, the C's clues are often multifaceted. I believe that some of these high plasma discharges can take the form of a chalice too, therefore conforming with Pierre's statement that there is a "chalice shape of the Z pinch phenomenon". Again, I will try and track down a photographic example if I can.

Finally, Farrell is also sympathetic to the idea of the 13 Crystal Skulls, which I posted on last year, as being receptacles of vast knowledge that could be brought together one day in fulfilment of a Cherokee Indian legend to help mankind in its hour of need. I will pick this subject up in a subsequent post.

But for now, I would thank you again for making these connections since they are very helpful to the quest.

 
This one looks a bit like a chalice I think.

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From The Squatting Man, page 1

Which makes me wonder why the Grail has been linked with the imagery of a chalice for so long. Here is the unusual perspective of Poussin's painting The Shepherds of Arcadia, which I originally took from a posting by 'Akopirnas' in 2013​
(see Alton Towers, Sir Francis Bacon and the Rosicrucians)

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"Yes, Muxel, here is the picture (clickable images) from that time probably after correct splitting - excuse me my answer after 1,5 year..:
Now we have
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1) Low place between stones

2) Two faces of Janus, which associates with trading (once again - german Handl?), rocks, caverns, covered passages, doors and underpassages...

3) Big shadow of some invisible cup...

4) Pyramid in dark circle

6) Something shining under pyramid in the form of a crystal

7) Place where two rivers merged or now merge (receded and dry/dried stream channels?)

8) A compass or letter A on a pyramid

9) Over compass - swagger stick with vegetative or water motive. Or little skull over a horizontal line dividing a pyramid...


So, Akopirnas manages to link in this one post: a pyramid, an invisible cup (chalice), a form of crystal, a compass (a major symbol of Freemasonry), the two faces of the Roman god Janus (the Baphomet skull may have multiple faces) and a little skull.

However, a chalice and a skull is also visible in the other double perspective of Poussin's painting that was posted on this thread back in May 2021 See: Alton Towers, Sir Francis Bacon and the Rosicrucians

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For those who can't make it out, the chalice is at the bottom of the painting between the feet of the two bearded figures. The skull can be made out in the wall with the heads of each bearded figure creating the eye sockets. I would also suggest that the green foliage at the top of the painting set in the cloud also creates the shape of a chalice.

Thus, we again have the combination of a chalice and a skull. Is this just coincidence or did Poussin (the "Guardian of Secrets") intend this? Given Poussin's Rosicrucian background, I highly doubt it is coincidence. This artist paid very close attention to detail and perspective and evidently intended to pass on secret, esoteric information in his work, just as Shakespeare did in his plays. Moreover, we should recall that Abbe Sauniere, the parish priest of Rennes-le-Chateau, bought a copy of this painting, presumably to study it for clues. This supports my theory, as advanced by researchers like Otto Rahn, Andrew Gough and William Henry, that the true mystery of Rennes-le-Chateau is about the Holy Grail.

Since Poussin's painting seems to contains images relating to the Grail and his choice of figures seem to be referring to specific constellations of the Zodiac, this makes me conclude that the work is intended to be a star map pointing to the whereabouts of the Holy Grail. Indeed, the zodiac itself may even be telling the story of the Grail. The C's responded to a question from Laura about the dating of the present 12 signs Zodiac by saying this:​

Q: Well, when did the present 12 sign zodiac begin to be established as it is?

A:
1302 A.D.

That is an interesting date because it is only five years before the suppression of the Knights Templar. Prior to that, the late 12th and the 13th centuries had seen the emergence of the Grail stories, which played a significant part in helping to kick-start the Renaissance. The original Grail story was written by Chrétien de Troyes during the 1180s or 1190s. I have suggested that the Templars may have found the Grail at Petra in the 1180's, not long before the Fall of Jerusalem in 1187 and the 'Cutting of the Elm at Gisors' event in 1188; which may have involved a clash over the Knights Templar (championed by the English King Henry II and his son Richard the Lionheart) who possessed the Grail and the forces of King Phillip II of France, who may have championed the Priory of Sion who wanted the Grail. Hence, with the Grail once more hidden by the Templars, it makes sense that the Grail stories should start to emerge in the late 1180's or in 1190. Chretien's story of Perceval was left unfinished, most likely because of the death of either his patron, Philip I Count of Flanders in 1191, while crusading at Acre, or the author's own death. Some have even suggested that Chretien's death was not a natural one, which, if true, makes one wonder whether he was revealing too much and somebody wanted to put an end to his story. It is also interesting that he seems to have been from Troyes or at least intimately connected with it, given that the town's name may originate from a commemoration of the Achaeans' victory over the Trojans in a war that may have been triggered by the Grail. However, could the finding of the Grail and its subsequent hiding by the Templars have influenced the structure of the medieval Zodiac, which the C's say took its present shape in 1302? Any views on this?

In passing, it is interesting to note that some scholars see possible parallels in the story of Perceval with the Irish mythological race of the Tuatha Dé Danann. That race had three central talismans: a spear, a cauldron, and a sword, that correlate with the spear, grail, and sword present in Perceval. Again, I would speculate that we are seeing references to advanced technology here, with the Grail perhaps being at the centre of things.

As it so happens, Dr. Joseph Farrell delves into the relationship between the talisman of the Tuatha De Danann, the Tarot Deck and the pack of modern playing cards (a subject we have looked at before on this thread) in The Giza Death Star Deployed:

But this mention of a "Hermetic Weapon" does deserve some further commentary. In my previous book The Giza Death Star I cited William Henry's One Foot in Atlantis, an excellent survey of the occult influences operating in the circles of Roosevelt, Churchill, and Hitler. There, I pointed out Henry's list of parallels between standard occult (or ceremonial magick talismans of power), the Tarot deck, and a modern pack of playing cards:

Occult Symbol: Cauldron Sword Spear Stone/Crystal
Tarot: Cups Swords Wands Pentacles
Modern Cards: Hearts Spades Clubs Diamonds

A further parallel exists in the accoutrements of the practitioner of ceremonial magick:

Occult Symbol: Cauldron Sword Spear Stone/Crystal
Tarot: Cups Swords Wands Pentacles
Modern Cards: Hearts Spades Clubs Diamonds
Magick: Chalice Dagger Wand Crystal

Ralph Ellis, in his Thoth: Architect of the Universe, points out a possible "paleophysical meaning" behind the minor trumps of the Tarot and the modern pack of playing cards, stripping away one layer of a possible physics origin for something as simple as a deck of cards:

Item: Number: Physics Analogy:

Number of cards 52 Number of weeks in the Terrestrial solar year
Number of cards per suit 13 Number of Lunar Months
Number of picture cards 12 Number of terrestrial Months
Number of suits 4 Number of seasons
Number of spots (pips) 364 Approximate number of Days in the earth's Solar orbit

Interestingly enough, the only survivor of the Major Trumps from the Tarot deck in the modern playing cards deck is The Fool, or as is more commonly known, the "Joker". Giving it an arbitrary value of 1.234 would increase the number of "pips" or spots in the playing card deck to 365.234, a number reflecting the current calendrical system of counting the number of days in a year. But one may go further, much further, in uncovering possibly encoded deep layers of physical meanings latent in the now garbled traditions of esoteric practice. For example, in the typical "Tarot reading" the reader is supposed to clear his mind, concentrate on the question being asked of the cards, and then begin the "shuffle." What basis in physics might these seemingly simple acts have? Since quantum mechanics and more recent scientific investigations into the relationship of consciousness and physical reality have posited some sort of connection between Observer and observed effect, the following relationships suggest themselves:

Tarot Reading: Possible Underlying Physics:

Clearing the mind and focus on Posited links between the mind the
the Question structured potential of the Zero Point Energy

The Deck itself "Infinite" information potential of the field

The Shuffle Analog random number Generator

The Spread Union of the previous steps, i.e., of
form and matter the structured potential of
information in the field.

Extending this analogical analysis even further, recontextualizing the four standard talismans of power reveals more tantalizing possibilities when viewed in the contexts of electromagnetics and topology:


Occult Symbol: Cauldron Sword Spear Stone/Crystal
Tarot: Cups Swords Wands Pentacles
Modern Cards: Hearts Spades Clubs Diamonds
Magick: Chalice Dagger Wand Crystal
Electromagnetism: Capacitor Waveguide Antenna Crystal/Lattice
Topology: Basins of Bifurcation Maps Matrix/metric
Attraction



Much food for thought I would suggest.
 
This one looks a bit like a chalice I think.

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However, a chalice and a skull is also visible in the other double perspective of Poussin's painting that was posted on this thread back in May 2021 See: Alton Towers, Sir Francis Bacon and the Rosicrucians

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For those who can't make it out, the chalice is at the bottom of the painting between the feet of the two bearded figures. The skull can be made out in the wall with the heads of each bearded figure creating the eye sockets. I would also suggest that the green foliage at the top of the painting set in the cloud also creates the shape of a chalice.

Thus, we again have the combination of a chalice and a skull. Is this just coincidence or did Poussin (the "Guardian of Secrets") intend this? Given Poussin's Rosicrucian background, I highly doubt it is coincidence. This artist paid very close attention to detail and perspective and evidently intended to pass on secret, esoteric information in his work, just as Shakespeare did in his plays.​
I see a chimpanzee with his arms folded behind his head, wearing a Mickey Mouse hat with an upside-down brassiere, a necktie and a pair of Jockey Shorts being worshiped by a giant moth. Have I failed the Rorschach Test?

Here is a more serious thought: the perfect symmetry and mirror image almost as though the kneeling shepherd is reaching into a parallel universe. Every detail is clear except the hand that is reaching is pink and smudgy and incomplete as it merges with the other hand. I find that odd and very different than the realism in the rest of the painting.

As for the plasma chalice, do you think it is more about the plasma or the chalice?
 
I see a chimpanzee with his arms folded behind his head, wearing a

Here is a more serious thought: the perfect symmetry and mirror image almost as though the kneeling shepherd is reaching into a parallel universe. Every detail is clear except the hand that is reaching is pink and smudgy and incomplete as it merges with the other hand. I find that odd and very different than the realism in the rest of the painting.

As for the plasma chalice, do you think it is more about the plasma or the chalice?
Oh I'm so glad you said that! I've been thinking over how to say something similar...I'm not scientifically minded....so please no admonishment on my lack if book knowledge. I do experience more than most and I take these things for granted. Here goes...

I think psi abilities, esp the more forceful ones, like pk (but maybe all) are the ability to manipulate matter in its plasma form.

I see 4D as a reality where one does this easily, perhaps the basic substrate of this reality is a greater plasma field, you'd be immersed in.

There are probably times where 3D earth is more like this, like now, growing greater with larger spatial contact with the Wave. And, psi abilities will increase in the population...if they can handle it. (And this is where 4th Way or other spiritual training comes in handy for...not moralistic but development of responsibility.)

This is what I see as humanity's Holy Grail....Our natural tech.

We know 4D fields are somehow generated here on earth, in bases. And there are natural bleed throughs. But some ppl are able to tap into these greater abilities without tech. Black ops equipment and actions needed psychics to run equipment or do certain things....esp children, because they so easily believe. What if some of the 'priests' that could handle artifacts were psychics?
 
I see a chimpanzee with his arms folded behind his head, wearing a Mickey Mouse hat with an upside-down brassiere, a necktie and a pair of Jockey Shorts being worshiped by a giant moth. Have I failed the Rorschach Test?

Here is a more serious thought: the perfect symmetry and mirror image almost as though the kneeling shepherd is reaching into a parallel universe. Every detail is clear except the hand that is reaching is pink and smudgy and incomplete as it merges with the other hand. I find that odd and very different than the realism in the rest of the painting.

As for the plasma chalice, do you think it is more about the plasma or the chalice?
Where you say: "I see a chimpanzee with his arms folded behind his head, wearing a Mickey Mouse hat with an upside-down brassiere, a necktie and a pair of Jockey Shorts being worshiped by a giant moth. Have I failed the Rorschach Test?", you are not the first person to make this point. However, you must remember that the C's told Laura to create a double image/mirror perspective of the painting, as it would yield clues. The two versions shown in my previous post yield very different perspectives. Even now I am not sure which is the one the C's intended. In another post, we looked at Leonardo da Vinci's work, where he too seemed to create paintings that yielded interesting perspectives when they were turned into a mirror image. Hence, for esoteric minded painters, this may have been a technique they used to convey hidden information. Poussin was too precise an artist for this to be mere coincidence. If you go back to one of my earlier posts, you will see articles by Gary Osborn titled the Poussin Codes. Osborn and others have looked closely at Poussin's work and by doing so have discovered hidden scientific knowledge, particularly information concerning the Great Pyramid of Giza.

Given what thisplacerocks has said about pansophy (identifying common patterns found in myths and initiation rites), it becomes more interesting when you note Osborn's observation that:

"Poussin was a prolific artist. His work is said to be divided between two themes: scenes from the Biblical Scriptures and those featuring the pagan gods Pan and Apollo and the beautiful, idyllic landscapes associated with pagan mythology."

This shows that initiates like Poussin were aware of the hidden meanings within classical myths and Old Testament scripture and sought to convey these meanings in coded form in their own works for the cognoscenti to pick-up on. Osborn even asserts that:

"It would perhaps surprise many to learn that the encoded information within the Great Pyramid was first discovered through studying and deciphering the hidden codes in two ‘self-portrait’ paintings by the French artist Nicolas Poussin (1594-65)."

One of these people may have been Sir Isaac Newton, the father of the Theory of Gravity, who spent a lifetime studying the Great Pyramid. This is why on another thread, I suggested Ark should look at the Great Pyramid since it may encode the UFT.

"Where you say: "Here is a more serious thought: the perfect symmetry and mirror image almost as though the kneeling shepherd is reaching into a parallel universe. Every detail is clear except the hand that is reaching is pink and smudgy and incomplete as it merges with the other hand. I find that odd and very different than the realism in the rest of the painting."

this is a good observation and is very thought provoking. Perhaps it represents 4D and variable physicality, the parallel universe you refer to (or "the other side of the mirror"). This point about 4D may also link with the following statement made by the C's in the Session dated 16 August 1997:
Q: What was the niche in the Queen's Chamber that resembles the crack in the stone in the Arcadian Shepherd's painting, as well as the window in the St. Anthony painting. What was this for?

A: Mind accelerator.

Q: Was there like a chair there where you could sit, and the energy converged there?

A: Close.

Q: One thing that has been driving me nuts is the repeated representation of knees. I mean, they are everywhere. In the zodiac of Dendara there is even a leg with the knee joint as a constellation. And in the Bacchus and Ariadne painting, someone is brandishing a leg. What is it with this knee. I know that the word is related to genes, and that the word 'patella' is related to the root of platter, and thus 'grail,' all of these funny ideas are connected to the knee. Even my name!

A: Yes, so leave it until you have more pieces.

Q: You mean, I will get more pieces and this will make sense?

A: Yes."

Q: Well, I am lost in a sea of puzzle pieces and I have not even begun to try to assemble them!

A: Step by step.

Q: We have the phoenix, cranes, herons, doves, ravens, and all are related somehow to speech or writing. Why are all these birds related this way?

A: Pass the test.

Q: What do you mean 'pass the test?'

A: Discover.


I would suggest that the Grail acts as a mind accelerator. If so, this again suggests that Poussin's painting is really about finding the Grail. The reference Laura makes to the chair in that excerpt may be about Ptah's throne (see my earlier post), which in its function I linked to the infamous Montauk Chair, where modern legend suggests that people with great psychic abilities were able to manifest objects into being (similar to the function of a TDARM). The reference to "pass the test" may suggest that there is some sort of test that an initiate of the Grail must pass to be worthy of finding it, which involves the prior absorption of certain necessary knowledge. Hence, the sea of puzzle pieces supplied by the C's.

Please note that much of that particular session was concerned with the Great Pyramid. However, it also included the following additional topics: The Trampled Leaves of Wrath, the Orion Mystery, Secrets of the Parthenon, the "Grapes of Wrath" and the Blue Apples incarnate, the Secret Chamber of Thoth at Heliopolis, the Benben Stone, the Ahragh Creed, the Sword Keepers of the Lock, the Illuminati, the Etruscans, Rostau - Ros-Tau and the Rose-Cross. Many of these topics have previously been explored on this and other threads on the Forum. Hence, I would submit that in some small measure we have been trying to add some of the missing pieces to the jigsaw. I hope to have more to say on the "Blue Apples incarnate" in a future post.

As for your comment on the plasma chalice, I do think it is more about the plasma than the chalice here? It was the C's who linked the plasma discharges with the Holy Grail and Pierre then added the comment concerning the chalice, which he linked with the "shape of the Z pinch phenomenon". This is why I posted the plasma image of the chalice. Please note that the link between the chalice and the Grail only came about in the medieval age, by which time Christianity had prevailed over the forces of paganism. Even then, Chretien de Troyes depicted the Grail as being carried on a platter not a chalice, hence Laura's observation about the root of the word "platter", which links with the word "patella", the Latin term for "knee".

Elsewhere, Laura has noted that in the famous stain glass window in Chartres Cathedral depicting the Ark of the Covenant or Holy Grail being carried away on a cart, the Grail seems to be depicted as a cube shape within a large cup or chalice. The cup or chalice may just have been a safe metaphor to use in that particular time period. Many have linked the building of Chartres Cathedral and other gothic cathedrals of that era to the Knights Templar. If this is correct (although others dispute the Templars' involvement in cathedral building), then it may make more sense of that stain glassed window, since the Templars would have been the people who spirited the Grail away from Jerusalem before the city's fall. I have just started to watch a fascinating TV series called 'Lost Relics of the Knights Templar' (see: Lost Relics of the Knights Templar (TV Mini Series 2020– ) - IMDb), which shows how the Templars may have used a network of deep underground tunnels to evacuate their relics during the Saracen's siege of Jerusalem. The Templars were absolute masters of forward planning. Thus, the cart depicted in the stain glass window may well reflect a real cart that took the Grail and other relics to safety as the Saracens closed in on the city.​
 

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I would suggest that the Grail acts as a mind accelerator. If so, this again suggests that Poussin's painting is really about finding the Grail.​

Can't remember the name of a psychic super soldier (who could operate without any tech) but what he said was very important for our protection against hostile negative and telepathic mind controlling aliens. One of his unique gifts is his brain's ability to generate very high levels of gamma waves, which project outside his body. This is unheard of because while humans do produce gammas, they do not radiate outward, and most in meditation spend it generating alpha waves, not gamma. This abilty is what protected him against alien mind control and is imperative that humans learn to generate strong gamma waves. These are created when operating at Love's frequency....and most do not understand what that actually is. Laughter can produce gammas as well as learning new things.
 
Oh I'm so glad you said that! I've been thinking over how to say something similar...I'm not scientifically minded....so please no admonishment on my lack if book knowledge. I do experience more than most and I take these things for granted. Here goes...

I think psi abilities, esp the more forceful ones, like pk (but maybe all) are the ability to manipulate matter in its plasma form.

I see 4D as a reality where one does this easily, perhaps the basic substrate of this reality is a greater plasma field, you'd be immersed in.

There are probably times where 3D earth is more like this, like now, growing greater with larger spatial contact with the Wave. And, psi abilities will increase in the population...if they can handle it. (And this is where 4th Way or other spiritual training comes in handy for...not moralistic but development of responsibility.)

This is what I see as humanity's Holy Grail....Our natural tech.

We know 4D fields are somehow generated here on earth, in bases. And there are natural bleed throughs. But some ppl are able to tap into these greater abilities without tech. Black ops equipment and actions needed psychics to run equipment or do certain things....esp children, because they so easily believe. What if some of the 'priests' that could handle artifacts were psychics?
@MJF I realize I'm not adding to your intense study here, but rather attempting to give you real life clues. I have manifested things and events, which would appear as miracles. I have not talked much about it because of self protection, don't need input from scoffers, and a big reason, I understand why there was caution as to Why You Don't Create Your Own Reality....And this is where training in responsibility/wisdom comes in...If ppl could, at the state many are in, what would they do with the gift? It could end up being harmful to themselves or others, or interfere/muck up karmic lessons and so on. That said let me share experiences because I believe we're very close to abilities opening up for a lot of ppl.

How the following (and other similar) happened, I cannot give nits n' bolts theories...like I said, I take it for granted. Perhaps it was help from higher realms or there is something physically about myself and son which gives us psi abilities, I don't know...maybe it works thru us. There are a few conditions that went along with the following, however. One was dire need, two no panic accompanied with calm acceptance that all would be ok, and third...no anticipation, which is something the Cs mention. Now, I'll give 3 examples:

Forcefully pushing another away, who meant life threatening harm, without touching them.

When there was no money left for food, and responsible for a child...boxed foodstuff and milk never ran out, until money came in.

During a great flood and 3 days rain (I think 3) our roof began to leak where it was ready to fall into the bedroom, water was bulging the ceiling and dripping. My neighbors had water flooding yards and basements. My son and I set intentions that: "No rain or floodwater would enter our home." We did this under that leaking roof and then went downstairs. My son would ask, "Should we go check the ceiling?", and I said, "Well, you either believe it works or not."

After an hour or two, we went upstairs....It was still raining buckets but no more drips nor bulging ceiling. I then opened the window and stuck my hand/arm out....No rain was hitting our house. No floodwater entered our home/basement, even though it did in every home in my neighborhood and elsewhere. After the rain stopped, I had ppl come and patch the roof.
 
Can't remember the name of a psychic super soldier (who could operate without any tech) but what he said was very important for our protection against hostile negative and telepathic mind controlling aliens. One of his unique gifts is his brain's ability to generate very high levels of gamma waves, which project outside his body. This is unheard of because while humans do produce gammas, they do not radiate outward, and most in meditation spend it generating alpha waves, not gamma. This abilty is what protected him against alien mind control and is imperative that humans learn to generate strong gamma waves. These are created when operating at Love's frequency....and most do not understand what that actually is. Laughter can produce gammas as well as learning new things.
That is very interesting. It is certainly true that a human being can be more readily manipulated whilst in an alpha state, including when meditating. This may explain why a lot of alien abductions take place at night when people are in an alpha sleep state and when people are driving. I recall that the C's once warned somebody (I don't think it was Laura though) about being careful when driving because you can easily find yourself in an alpha state, which renders you more susceptible to abduction. However, what you say about gamma waves is very intriguing.

Gamma Waves

My understanding is that a gamma wave is a pattern of neural oscillation in humans with a frequency between 25 and 100 Hz, though 40 Hz is typical. According to popular theory, gamma waves may be implicated in creating the unity of conscious perception (the 'binding problem' -see more below on this). However, there is no agreement on the theory.

Gamma brain waves are produced when multiple parts of the brain are active and communicating. High gamma brain wave activity heightens the senses — better taste, sight, hearing, even smell. You perceive reality sharper and clearer than ever before when your brain is alive with gamma wave activity. All the evidence so far strongly suggests that high gamma activity is key to many aspects of reaching our full human potential, psychic abilities, and spiritual development.

And from Wikipedia: Gamma wave - Wikipedia

"A gamma wave or gamma Rhythm is a pattern of neural oscillation in humans with a frequency between 25 and 140 Hz, the 40-Hz point being of particular interest. Gamma rhythms are correlated with large scale brain network activity and cognitive phenomena such as working memory, attention, and perceptual grouping, and can be increased in amplitude via meditation or neurostimulation. Altered gamma activity has been observed in many mood and cognitive disorders such as Alzheimer's disease, epilepsy and schizophrenia."

It is curious that schizophrenics may share attributes of the shaman's mind by having the ability to pierce the veil. This probably allows them to see 4th Density, which could explain why many report seeing demonic forms. They might in fact be seeing the Lizard beings, who most people can't see at 3D unless the Lizard wants them to. I have any elderly aunt who is suffering from late stage Alzheimer's disease. She like many sufferers is having vivid hallucinations, which to her are absolutely real.​

Gamma waves may participate in the formation of coherent, unified perception, also known as the problem of combination in the binding problem, due to their apparent synchronization of neural firing rates across distinct brain regions. 40-Hz gamma waves were first suggested to participate in visual consciousness in 1988, .e.g., two neurons oscillate synchronously (though they are not directly connected) when a single external object stimulates their respective receptive fields. Subsequent experiments by many others demonstrated this phenomenon in a wide range of visual cognition. In particular, Francis Crick and Christof Koch in 1990 argued that there is a significant relation between the binding problem and the problem of visual consciousness and, as a result, that synchronous 40 Hz oscillations may be causally implicated in visual awareness as well as in visual binding. Later the same authors expressed skepticism over the idea that 40-Hz oscillations are a sufficient condition for visual awareness.

Francis Crick is, of course, one of the co-discoverers of DNA.

However, it seems Gamma Waves can be produced by meditation too:

"High-amplitude gamma wave synchrony can be self-induced via meditation. Long-term practitioners of meditation such as Tibetan Buddhist monks exhibit both increased gamma-band activity at baseline as well as significant increases in gamma synchrony during meditation, as determined by scalp EEG. fMRI on the same monks revealed greater activation of right insular cortex and caudate nucleus during meditation. The neurobiological mechanisms of gamma synchrony induction are thus highly plastic. This evidence may support the hypothesis that one's sense of consciousness, stress management ability, and focus, often said to be enhanced after meditation, are all underpinned by gamma activity. At the 2005 annual meeting of the Society for Neuroscience, the current Dalai Lama commented that if neuroscience could propose a way to induce the psychological and biological benefits of meditation without intensive practice, he "would be an enthusiastic volunteer."

Was that psychic super soldier involved in the Stargate Project, a secret U.S. Army unit established in 1978 at Fort Meade, Maryland, by the Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA) and SRI International (a California contractor) to investigate the potential for psychic phenomena in military and domestic intelligence applications? There was a film made about it. There was a 2009 comedy film starring George Clooney and Ewan McGregor called The Men Who Stare at Goats, which was based on this secret military unit.
See The Men Who Stare at Goats (film) - Wikipedia.​
 
It is curious that schizophrenics may share attributes of the shaman's mind by having the ability to pierce the veil. This probably allows them to see 4th Density, which could explain why many report seeing demonic forms. They might in fact be seeing the Lizard beings, who most people can't see at 3D unless the Lizard wants them to. I have any elderly aunt who is suffering from late stage Alzheimer's disease. She like many sufferers is having vivid hallucinations, which to her are absolutely real.
Well, I have thoughts and experiences regarding the above. I've made it no secret that I have sight for invisible beings, including reptilians, but also ghosts and demons (I think some earthbound nasty humans become demonic too). This ability runs in my family but my siblings and parents...well, it must scare the crap out of them and they lost it or denied it. One therory is that we're all histamine intolerant (HIT), a genetic mutation. I have a brother who is schizophrenic and I believe it is due to HIT. They have known since the 1950s that 20% of schizophrenics are histamine intolerant. Histamine is also a neurotransmitter, which amplifies...they call it an excitable transmitter. He, I, my son and most in my family have been targeted or watched...really bizzare stuff which I could fill pages with.


Was that psychic super soldier involved in the Stargate Project, a secret U.S. Army unit established in 1978 at
I don't remember if so. In the early days, these super soldiers were put under horrific physical endurances to crack open psi abilities...many starting in childhood...perhaps the raised histamine levels due to stressors open them up.

And thank you so much, for all your research! I hope I am able to fill in some of the mystery surrounding it all...
 
@MJF I realize I'm not adding to your intense study here, but rather attempting to give you real life clues. I have manifested things and events, which would appear as miracles. I have not talked much about it because of self protection, don't need input from scoffers, and a big reason, I understand why there was caution as to Why You Don't Create Your Own Reality....And this is where training in responsibility/wisdom comes in...If ppl could, at the state many are in, what would they do with the gift? It could end up being harmful to themselves or others, or interfere/muck up karmic lessons and so on. That said let me share experiences because I believe we're very close to abilities opening up for a lot of ppl.

How the following (and other similar) happened, I cannot give nits n' bolts theories...like I said, I take it for granted. Perhaps it was help from higher realms or there is something physically about myself and son which gives us psi abilities, I don't know...maybe it works thru us. There are a few conditions that went along with the following, however. One was dire need, two no panic accompanied with calm acceptance that all would be ok, and third...no anticipation, which is something the Cs mention. Now, I'll give 3 examples:

Forcefully pushing another away, who meant life threatening harm, without touching them.

When there was no money left for food, and responsible for a child...boxed foodstuff and milk never ran out, until money came in.

During a great flood and 3 days rain (I think 3) our roof began to leak where it was ready to fall into the bedroom, water was bulging the ceiling and dripping. My neighbors had water flooding yards and basements. My son and I set intentions that: "No rain or floodwater would enter our home." We did this under that leaking roof and then went downstairs. My son would ask, "Should we go check the ceiling?", and I said, "Well, you either believe it works or not."

After an hour or two, we went upstairs....It was still raining buckets but no more drips nor bulging ceiling. I then opened the window and stuck my hand/arm out....No rain was hitting our house. No floodwater entered our home/basement, even though it did in every home in my neighborhood and elsewhere. After the rain stopped, I had ppl come and patch the roof.
Don't worry about that. Peoples insights can be very helpful and have often assisted me and others here on this thread. The Forum is a collective effort, which as one member recently proposed, may be creating a social memory complex.

Your story is amazing. It could be that you and your son's DNA is already responding to the wave. You are right in thinking that these psychic gifts can be a double-edged sword though. I remember a story in Star Trek the Next Generation when the omnipotent being called Q gave Commander Riker his gift of omnipotence to see how he would handle it. Riker at first used the gift but then found out just how difficult the choice to play God could be and ended up asking Q to take the gift back. With power comes responsibility. The greater the power, the greater the responsibility.

Where you said in your earlier post:
This is what I see as humanity's Holy Grail....Our natural tech.

We know 4D fields are somehow generated here on earth, in bases. And there are natural bleed throughs. But some ppl are able to tap into these greater abilities without tech. Black ops equipment and actions needed psychics to run equipment or do certain things....esp children, because they so easily believe. What if some of the 'priests' that could handle artifacts were psychics?


I think this is Humanity's Holy Grail. In some ways it is linked to the Kundalini experience described by Gary Osborn and Philip Gardiner in their books 'The Serpent Grail' and ‘The Shining Ones’, where you are transformed into a "Shining One" (think here of Moses after his 40 day meeting with Yahweh on Mt. Sinai).

I do think some of the ancient priests of Egypt and Israel who handled artefacts such as the Ark of the Covenant and the Grail were psychics. This probably includes Abraham/Moses but also Meritaten/Hagar too. Remember, she was a hybrid human with an enlarged cranium due to her mother, Nefertiti's genetics. Such an enlarged cranium could have given her as much as a 40% increase on normal brain capacity. This could have meant that she was super smart. She could also have been a Shining One and the fact that the name of the Irish Tuatha de Danaan goddess Brigid means "bright" or "exalted one" leads me to think, amongst other reasons, that Hagar became Brigid. If so, did she bring the Grail with her to the British Isles, which launched the Siege of Troy?


 

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