AUTOIMMUNE DISEASES CAUSED BY AN INFECTION?

As I've kept reading more and more about "Electromedicine", one finding led again to another, and then to a PDF-booklet that I found very helpful.
First, I found this scientific research paper that I checked out:

Giant vesicles in electric fields (Rumiana Dimova,* Karin A. Riske,{ Said Aranda, Natalya Bezlyepkina, Roland L. Knorr and Reinhard Lipowsky
Received 9th March 2007, Accepted 17th April 2007)
http://www.mpikg.mpg.de/rl/P/archive/278.pdf

This review is dedicated to electric field effects on giant unilamellar vesicles, a cell-size membrane system. We summarize various types of behavior observed when vesicles are subjected either to weak AC fields at various frequency, or to strong DC pulses. Different processes such as electro- deformation, -poration and -fusion of giant vesicles are considered. We describe some recent developments, which allowed us to detect the dynamics of the vesicle response with a resolution below milliseconds for all of these processes. Novel aspects on electric field effects on vesicles in the gel phase are introduced.

This paper was interesting, IMO, because it proved that "real" scientific studies are being made in this field, and it also talked about the special microscopic techniques that was apparently exactly what Rife was doing. And, from this paper I learned that electroporation is something that is studied, and used all the time e.g. in genetic manipulation and many types of medical studies. In short, it's a process where with the use of electrical manipulation pores (holes) will be created in the cell wall. And as I went along, I found many other studies of this kind, and devices that main stream vendors sell to researchers, e.g. here (where they also explain electroporation):

_http://www.btxonline.com/electroporation-education/

Now, this wasn't exactly in the line of what Rife was doing, until I found the term Irreversible Electroporation. Short explanation from Wikipedia:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irreversible_electroporation
Irreversible electroporation (IRE or NTIRE for non-thermal irreversible electroporation) is a soft tissue ablation technique using ultra short but strong electrical fields to create permanent and hence lethal nanopores in the cell membrane, to disrupt the cellular homeostasis. The resulting cell death results from apoptosis and not necrosis as in all other thermal or radiation based ablation techniques. The main use of IRE lies in tumor ablation in regions where precision and conservation of the extracellular matrix, blood flow and nerves are of importance. The technique is in an experimental stage and has not been approved for use outside of clinical trials.

Looking up this, then, led me to this interesting PDF-booklet, by a "alternative doctor" called Keith Scott-Mumby:

http://www.alternative-doctor.com/downloads/ElectroChemotherapy.pdf

This document was very helpful, because the author gives many references to "real" scientific studies regarding this topic. I did not know, that this - in a lack of a better term - rifing approach was out in the open, in the main stream scientific research communities!

Scott-Mumby has written several books, and his latest looks pretty interesting (a bit early to say, without reading any of it):

Medicine Beyond: Startling New Dimensions Of Health and Healing For The Future Paperback – May 8, 2015
Amazon Link (paperback): http://amzn.com/0988419688
You can apparently buy this book in digital format on his website: _http://alternative-doctor.com/medicinebeyond/

About the author (from Amazon):

About the Author
Qualified in medicine MB ChB (same as MD) in Manchester, UK in 1970, Scott-Mumby almost immediately began research into controversial alternatives. He started the first successful Food and Environmental Allergy Clinic in 1979 which rapidly spread to Harley St (London), Glasgow, Dublin and Stockholm. Those were exciting days in which we made many new discoveries. Scott-Mumby made medico-legal history in 1986, when a UK Crown Court accepted his evidence that food allergy was capable of making a youth murderously violent; the story rated rated 20 minutes of Channel Four News and the youth was given a conditional release (condition: that he stick to Scott-Mumby’s diet!). By 1990 the press were calling him “Britain’s Number One Allergy Detective”. Scott-Mumby has published several books in this field and been interviewed by the BBC and TV and radio stations worldwide, as a recognized expert in alternative health paradigms. More recently, he has gone into other areas and started to search for answers as to why an individual gets allergies in the first place. The answers have led him into homotoxicology (“complex” homeopathy) and electro-dermal screening, using computers, and the Chinese model, allied to a Western technological database. Prof. Scott-Mumby now writes and lectures internationally on the themes of energetic medicine and the new anti-ageing science, which is his current forte. He wrote the book VIRTUAL MEDICINE to bring science and validation to this emerging field and the vast technology it has spawned. In 2005, he was appointed professor of energy medicine at the Capital University of Integrative Medicine (now demised) and professor of nutrition at the Open International University for Complementary Medicines, USA. He is also on the Senate of the latter. His recent major book DIET WISE is the summation of 30 years advanced clinical work. PROFESSIONAL STATUS Founding member of the British Society for Clinical Ecology (now the British Society for Nutrition, Allergy and Environmental Medicine) Medical Advisor to the board What Doctors Don’t Tell You (journal) Scientific and medical advisor to the British Society for Homotoxicology Certified chelation member of American College for the Advancement of Medicine Professor of Nutrition and Vice-Chancellor at the Open International University for Complementary Medicines, also Senate Professor of Energy Medicine at the former Capital University of Integrative Medicine

Again, at first glance, this book appears to be interesting, but it's too early to say.

Anyway, here are some interesting quotes from the PDF mentioned earlier. The document isn't that long, and it's easy to read, I hope you guys can check it out.

Fact From Fiction
So, is there any real proof that precisely controlled electro-magnetic fields can eliminate cancer cells, while leaving the host intact?
Well let me remind you, this is just a little further down the holistic path than conventional radiotherapy, in which x-rays and gamma rays (short wavelength part of the electro-magnetic spectrum) are used to knock out cancer cells. The theory is that if the dose is adjusted carefully, the cancer cells die but not healthy tissue. The reality is that this ideal dose is a myth and with this kind of radiation it is impossible to kill cancer cells effectively without also damaging the patient. But Rife’s experiments focused on a very different part of the electro-magnetic spectrum; radio waves in fact. These too have potential to harm living tissues but are much less aggressive and destructive than radio-activity. Think about this: if it were not so, you would be unable to stand safely near a radio or television set. You might have to wear a lead apron, to protect you, like the ones you’ve seen in hospital or at your dentist’s office. Now other scientists have studied the use of electro-magnetic fields in the treatment of cancer and their researches seem to have converged directly with Rife’s pioneer work.

Even orthodox medicine is beginning to embrace the whole phenomenon. They now talk about “electrochemotherapy”, in which doses of a chemo drug, such as bleomycin or cisplatin are driven into the cancer cells by high-frequency pulsed electro-magnetic waves. What happens is that the electric pulses upset the cell physiology and cause the cell membranes to become temporarily leaky or permeable. The effect is called “electroporation” and was exactly what Rife discovered, except that in his research the effect was so strong that the cell walls literally burst and the cell contents spilled out, killing it (see “irreversible electroporation” below)

{links to a few recent studies follow}

Irreversible Electroporation

Rife never used chemotherapy or any other drug agent, just electro-magnetic frequencies. Rife’s discovery lay in the realm of physics, not biochemistry or pharmacology. Even so, this convergence of research streams is very gratifying. The FDA’s stand that Rife’s technology was a fraud now looks wholly untenable, scientifically. The actual mechanism of cell death in Rife’s method is called “irreversible electroporation”. A paper from the Department of Bioengineering, Graduate Group in Biophysics, University of California at Berkeley, tells us more:

Certain electrical fields when applied across a cell can have as a sole effect the permeabilization of the cell membrane, presumable through the formation of nanoscale defects in the cell membrane. Sometimes this process leads to cell death, primarily when the electrical fields cause permanent permeabilization of the membrane and the consequent loss of cell homeostasis, in a process known as irreversible electroporation. This is an unusual mode of cell death that is not understood yet. While the phenomenon of irreversible electroporation may have been known for centuries it has become only recently rigorously considered in medicine for various applications of tissue ablation.
[Technol Cancer Res Treat. 2007 Aug;6(4):255-60.]

Permeabilization is a ridiculous word, even in this context; it simply means “making permeable” (in other words, leaky!) Porous is the familiar word; hence: electroporation.
Ablation is a medical term for destroying (tissues).

History

In researching I found interesting scientific history to support this report. A historical review shows that irreversible electroporation may have been observed as early as 1754 when Nollet studied the discharge of a static electrical generator on the skin (Nollet, J. A. Recherches sur les causes particulieres des phénoménes électriques. Paris: Chez H.L. Guerin & L. F. Delatour (1754). Other studies that are possible candidates for a designation as the first studies on irreversible electroporation are the 1898 publication of Fuller, in which it is reported that multiple high voltage discharges have bactericidal effect on a water sample [Fuller, G.W. Report on the investigations into the purification of the Ohio river water at Louisville Kentucky. New York: D. Van Nostrand Company (1898)]. Some of the first systematic studies that describe phenomena typical of irreversible electroporation were done on myelinated nerve tissue such as the 1956 work of Frankenhauser and Widen, who base their work on the 1898 work of Biedermann (Biedermann, W. Electrophysiology Vol. (vol 2). London: Macmillan (1898)), and whose results were confirmed by Stampfli and Willi in 1957 (Stampfli, R., Willi, M. Membrane potential of a Ranvier node measured after electrical destruction of its membrane. Experientia 13, 297-298 (1957).

The seminal study on irreversible electroporation is a series of three 1960s papers by Sale and Hamilton who demonstrate a non-thermal lethal effect of high electrical fields on organisms in suspensions.

• Sale, A. J. H., Hamilton, W. A. Effects of high electric fields on microorganisms. 1. Killing of bacteria and yeasts. Biochimica et Biophysica Acta 148, 781-788 (1967).
• Hamilton, W. A., Sale, A. J. H. Effects of high electric fields on microorganisms. 2. Mechanism of action of the lethal effect. Biochimica et Biophysica Acta 148, 789-800 (1967).
• Sale, A. J. H., Hamilton, W. A. Effects of high electric fields on microorganisms. 3. Lysis of erythrocytes and protopasts. Biochimica et Biophysica Acta 163, 37-43 (1968).

While ignored by medicine, until recently, irreversible electroporation has been used in the food industry for sterilization and preprocessing of food since the 1961 work of Doevenspeck [Doevenspeck, H. Influencing cells and cell walls by electrostatic impulses. Fleishwirtshaft 13, 986-987 (1961)].

{Yes, there are many studies and patents to be found about food sterilization with the use of electricity/frequencies}

China Ahead!

This is the first of two very recent and important studies (both published in April 2009) By a Chinese team headed by researcher Xiao-Jun Yang from the Department of Obstetrics and Gynecology, Hospital of Wenzhou Medical College [Journal of Experimental & Clinical Cancer Research 2009, 28:53doi:10.1186/1756-9966-28-53]. Full electronic versions at: http://www.jeccr.com/content/28/1/53
They investigated what they termed high frequency steep pulsed electric fields (SPEFs) on in vitro and in vivo antitumor efficiency of ovarian cancer cells. They were aware that repetition of low-frequency electric pulses induces painful muscle contractions, which can be unpleasant, and they wanted check that higher frequencies, rapidly pulsed, got over this unpleasant side effect, without losing the cancer-killer result. They studied gradually increasing frequencies (1, 60, 1 000, 5 000 Hz) and electric field intensity (50, 100, 150, 200, 250, 300, 350, 400 V/cm) respectively; V/cm is a measure of “how much” electricity. We don’t need to be any more technical than that. The experimenters looked at both microscope samples, measuring the amount of damage to cancer cells (in vitro), and also the actual size and appearance of the tumors (in vivo). They studied mice.

Results
SPEFs with a given frequency and appropriate electric field intensity could achieve similar cytotoxicity until reached a plateau of maximum cytotoxicity (approx. 100%). Cell damage (cytotoxicity) was clearly seen. Also the frequency of 5 kHz could induce apoptosis seen both in vitro and in vivo. Apoptosis is the “programmed cell suicide” you may have heard about. It’s Nature’s way of getting rid of aged and rogue cells. They were using a pulsed technique (short bursts of exposure to electromagnetic waves) that was a mixture of millisecond bursts and nanosecond bursts. What they are reporting, in essence, is that certain frequencies and amplitudes achieved 100% cell death. That’s what Rife found, 80 years ahead of the curve.

{examples of other similar studies follow}

How Can We Use This Valuable Knowledge?
Simply put, get yourself a frequency generator. You don’t need a Rife machine. Besides, broadcasting radio frequencies exactly as Rife did would contravene FCC regulations in the USA and similar laws in most countries. Today we would use a Direct digital synthesis (DDS) method of producing an analog waveform—usually a sine wave—by generating a time-varying signal in digital form and then performing a digital-to-analog conversion. Because operations within a DDS device are primarily digital, it can offer fast switching between output frequencies, fine frequency resolution, and operation over a broad spectrum of frequencies. With advances in design and process technology, today’s DDS devices are very compact and draw little power.

You can learn more about DDS here, if you are technically minded:
_http://www.analog.com/library/analogdialogue/archives/38-08/dds.html

Some knowledgeable manufacturers have put together frequency generators (sometimes called function machines) specifically with health applications in mind. In choosing one that might help you with cancer, Lymes, parasitosis or any other health condition, these are the points to look for:

-A frequency range of 1 Hz or less, up to 18 MHz (mega-Hertz)
-Pulsing capabilities (usually called “gating” in function generators)
-Choose one that has a high frequency carrier wave (above 1 mHertz). The crude devices with plates or electrodes which deliver only a basic frequency are nowhere near the technology described here, though many devices claiming to follow Rife’s method are like this.
-You might want to look for a device which will “sweep” through a range of frequencies each session. The rationale is that this will sooner or later pass through an MOR frequency and have its cancer-killer effect, rather like a stopped clock is accurate at least twice a day!
-Some sequencing and programming capabilities may turn out to be convenient, though this is not strictly necessary, if you don’t mind the labor of manually inputting the settings each time you use it (this can be tedious).
-Of course it goes without saying you should make sure there is technical support from people who understand the health applications of an electroporation frequency machine.
The good news is that frequencies can be generated using any standard function generator, such as an HP, B&K or Lucent. But the device I found which best meets all the above specifications is the GB400, made in the USA by knowledgeable health and electronics experts. It has an additional amplifier for more electroporation power and also has some very useful pulsing features. It’s much easier to use than a basic generator because it’s designed for health uses.

Rife is Finally FDA Approved (Kinda)!

To those who know the full story, it seems kind of ironic that the FDA would approve a Rife-type device. Yet that is precisely what happened in April 2011, when an FDA panel backed a novel, noninvasive device that uses an electrical field designed to blast apart cancer cells, as a potential treatment for brain cancer. The device, called the NovoTTF (for tumor treating fields), was designed by a private firm, NovoCure Ltd., which has operations in Israel and the U.S. It is being developed for use in patients with glioblastoma, a common form of brain cancer, initially for use after standard treatments fail. NovoCure's device is designed to disrupt the division of cancer cells in the brain using alternating electrical fields delivered by means of insulated electrodes applied to the surface of the scalp.

The portable device uses electric fields to disrupt the division of cancer cells that allows tumors to grow and spread. The electric fields have little effect on healthy cells because they divide at a much slower rate, if at all, compared with cancer cells. The FDA approved the device specifically for a tumor type known as glioblastoma, the most aggressive form of brain cancer. Five-year survival for the disease is just 2% for patients over 45 years old, according to the American Cancer Society. If it proves out, then we may see approval extended to a wide variety of cancerous situations; not just the hopeless glioblastoma cases. The panel of non-FDA medical experts voted 7 to 3 in favor of a question that asked whether the benefits of the device outweighed the risks. Two panel members abstained from voting. The panel unanimously said the product was safe, but split on whether the product is effective.

The Classic Lock and Key Model
The classical “lock and key” or its modified “induced fit” models assumes that in the extremely crowded environment of the cell (where there are billions of molecules) by random collisions those molecules that have complementary shapes lock onto to each other so the appropriate biochemical reactions can take place. This random collision approach also supposed to explain how enzymes can recognize their respective substrates, how antibodies in the immune system can grab onto specific foreign invaders and disarm them and how proteins can dock with different partner proteins or latch onto specific nucleic acids to control gene expression etc.
Well, that’s what everyone is taught. And the theory is NONSENSE. If you have read my book “Virtual Medicine” (2nd edition), you will know I draw extensively on the late Jacques Benveniste’s work (the Memory Of Water man){perhaps this would be an interesting read, keeping in mind the session with the C's where Rife was mentioned?}. Benveniste pointed out that the “lock and key” model was totally untenable and would require thousands of years, statistically, for any two related molecules to actually collide. He realized that molecules were actually signaling their presence to their key receptors using resonance magnetic frequencies. This are instantaneous, virtually, and act across distance.; in other words no actual contact of molecules an receptors is required.
 
Maybe this can also be interesting to you Aragorn:

ENGINEER GORAN SAMOUKOVIĆ: RESULTS OF MEASUREMENTS ON BOSNIAN PYRAMIDS

Serbian Electrical Engineer Goran Samouković has performed measuring of electromagnetic phenomena in the Bosnian Valley of Pyramids in the last few years. The results of his research is a comprehensive report which is attached below.

Special attention was paid to ultra-low electromagnetism that is responsible for environmental and pathogenic processes.

_http://piramidasunca.ba/eng/latest-news/item/10164-engineer-goran-samoukovi%C4%87-results-of-measurements-on-bosnian-pyramids.html

Also in Serbian: _http://piramidasunca.ba/bs/offline-page/aktuelnosti/item/10161-in%C5%BEinjer-goran-samoukovi%C4%87-rezultati-mjerenja-bosanskih-piramida.html
 
Persej said:
Maybe this can also be interesting to you Aragorn:

ENGINEER GORAN SAMOUKOVIĆ: RESULTS OF MEASUREMENTS ON BOSNIAN PYRAMIDS

Serbian Electrical Engineer Goran Samouković has performed measuring of electromagnetic phenomena in the Bosnian Valley of Pyramids in the last few years. The results of his research is a comprehensive report which is attached below.

Special attention was paid to ultra-low electromagnetism that is responsible for environmental and pathogenic processes.

_http://piramidasunca.ba/eng/latest-news/item/10164-engineer-goran-samoukovi%C4%87-results-of-measurements-on-bosnian-pyramids.html

Also in Serbian: _http://piramidasunca.ba/bs/offline-page/aktuelnosti/item/10161-in%C5%BEinjer-goran-samoukovi%C4%87-rezultati-mjerenja-bosanskih-piramida.html

I know I'm probably guilty of (at least occasionally) drifting away from the topic of this thread, but let's not go too far! ;) The thing you linked to might be interesting, but perhaps explore that in another thread?
 
Aragorn said:
I know I'm probably guilty of (at least occasionally) drifting away from the topic of this thread, but let's not go too far! ;) The thing you linked to might be interesting, but perhaps explore that in another thread?

OK, I moved my post to this topic: http://cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php/topic,36358.0.html
 
Shared Joy said:
Hi,

maybe is too early, but I decided to give a try to the new protocol this week:

- so far no Herx reactions, just a small stomach discomfort after the first dose of Doxy, which went away after eating breakfast.

- no other changes in usual patterns (sleep, digestion, etc)

- reading about biofilm protocols (like dr. Usman's), which goes like this:
1. biofilm disruption in the very first stage, followed by chelation,
2. then targeting the microbes with antibacterial, antibiotic, antifungal drugs, plus pectides
3. finally cleaning up the system with activated charcoal to avoid toxines' reabsorbing in the intestines.

I thought, maybe I might not have the "plankton" form of parasites which are flee floating, just the biofilm form?

I used years ago some Serrapeptase when I first encounter the biofilm info and it helped.

So, maybe, for those who have no Herx at first stage this could be a sign that biofilms should be disrupted first?? Or shall I try without the anti allergic drug ?

Note: I had no debilitating symptoms lately, just bothered by memory problems and kind of not being able to focus as long as needed.

Any suggestion is welcome, thanks!

Joy

Shared Joy, have you read the entire thread?
 
Aragorn said:
As I've kept reading more and more about "Electromedicine", one finding led again to another, and then to a PDF-booklet that I found very helpful.
....................

Looking up this, then, led me to this interesting PDF-booklet, by a "alternative doctor" called Keith Scott-Mumby:

http://www.alternative-doctor.com/downloads/ElectroChemotherapy.pdf

This document was very helpful, because the author gives many references to "real" scientific studies regarding this topic. I did not know, that this - in a lack of a better term - rifing approach was out in the open, in the main stream scientific research communities!

Scott-Mumby has written several books, and his latest looks pretty interesting (a bit early to say, without reading any of it):

Medicine Beyond: Startling New Dimensions Of Health and Healing For The Future Paperback – May 8, 2015
Amazon Link (paperback): http://amzn.com/0988419688
You can apparently buy this book in digital format on his website: _http://alternative-doctor.com/medicinebeyond/

About the author (from Amazon):

About the Author
Qualified in medicine MB ChB (same as MD) in Manchester, UK in 1970, Scott-Mumby almost immediately began research into controversial alternatives. He started the first successful Food and Environmental Allergy Clinic in 1979 which rapidly spread to Harley St (London), Glasgow, Dublin and Stockholm. Those were exciting days in which we made many new discoveries. Scott-Mumby made medico-legal history in 1986, when a UK Crown Court accepted his evidence that food allergy was capable of making a youth murderously violent; the story rated rated 20 minutes of Channel Four News and the youth was given a conditional release (condition: that he stick to Scott-Mumby’s diet!). By 1990 the press were calling him “Britain’s Number One Allergy Detective”. Scott-Mumby has published several books in this field and been interviewed by the BBC and TV and radio stations worldwide, as a recognized expert in alternative health paradigms. More recently, he has gone into other areas and started to search for answers as to why an individual gets allergies in the first place. The answers have led him into homotoxicology (“complex” homeopathy) and electro-dermal screening, using computers, and the Chinese model, allied to a Western technological database. Prof. Scott-Mumby now writes and lectures internationally on the themes of energetic medicine and the new anti-ageing science, which is his current forte. He wrote the book VIRTUAL MEDICINE to bring science and validation to this emerging field and the vast technology it has spawned. In 2005, he was appointed professor of energy medicine at the Capital University of Integrative Medicine (now demised) and professor of nutrition at the Open International University for Complementary Medicines, USA. He is also on the Senate of the latter. His recent major book DIET WISE is the summation of 30 years advanced clinical work. PROFESSIONAL STATUS Founding member of the British Society for Clinical Ecology (now the British Society for Nutrition, Allergy and Environmental Medicine) Medical Advisor to the board What Doctors Don’t Tell You (journal) Scientific and medical advisor to the British Society for Homotoxicology Certified chelation member of American College for the Advancement of Medicine Professor of Nutrition and Vice-Chancellor at the Open International University for Complementary Medicines, also Senate Professor of Energy Medicine at the former Capital University of Integrative Medicine

Again, at first glance, this book appears to be interesting, but it's too early to say.

Anyway, here are some interesting quotes from the PDF mentioned earlier. The document isn't that long, and it's easy to read, I hope you guys can check it out.

Fact From Fiction
So, is there any real proof that precisely controlled electro-magnetic fields can eliminate cancer cells, while leaving the host intact?
Well let me remind you, this is just a little further down the holistic path than conventional radiotherapy, in which x-rays and gamma rays (short wavelength part of the electro-magnetic spectrum) are used to knock out cancer cells. The theory is that if the dose is adjusted carefully, the cancer cells die but not healthy tissue. The reality is that this ideal dose is a myth and with this kind of radiation it is impossible to kill cancer cells effectively without also damaging the patient. But Rife’s experiments focused on a very different part of the electro-magnetic spectrum; radio waves in fact. These too have potential to harm living tissues but are much less aggressive and destructive than radio-activity. Think about this: if it were not so, you would be unable to stand safely near a radio or television set. You might have to wear a lead apron, to protect you, like the ones you’ve seen in hospital or at your dentist’s office. Now other scientists have studied the use of electro-magnetic fields in the treatment of cancer and their researches seem to have converged directly with Rife’s pioneer work.

Even orthodox medicine is beginning to embrace the whole phenomenon. They now talk about “electrochemotherapy”, in which doses of a chemo drug, such as bleomycin or cisplatin are driven into the cancer cells by high-frequency pulsed electro-magnetic waves. What happens is that the electric pulses upset the cell physiology and cause the cell membranes to become temporarily leaky or permeable. The effect is called “electroporation” and was exactly what Rife discovered, except that in his research the effect was so strong that the cell walls literally burst and the cell contents spilled out, killing it (see “irreversible electroporation” below)

{links to a few recent studies follow}

Irreversible Electroporation

Rife never used chemotherapy or any other drug agent, just electro-magnetic frequencies. Rife’s discovery lay in the realm of physics, not biochemistry or pharmacology. Even so, this convergence of research streams is very gratifying. The FDA’s stand that Rife’s technology was a fraud now looks wholly untenable, scientifically. The actual mechanism of cell death in Rife’s method is called “irreversible electroporation”. A paper from the Department of Bioengineering, Graduate Group in Biophysics, University of California at Berkeley, tells us more:

Certain electrical fields when applied across a cell can have as a sole effect the permeabilization of the cell membrane, presumable through the formation of nanoscale defects in the cell membrane. Sometimes this process leads to cell death, primarily when the electrical fields cause permanent permeabilization of the membrane and the consequent loss of cell homeostasis, in a process known as irreversible electroporation. This is an unusual mode of cell death that is not understood yet. While the phenomenon of irreversible electroporation may have been known for centuries it has become only recently rigorously considered in medicine for various applications of tissue ablation.
[Technol Cancer Res Treat. 2007 Aug;6(4):255-60.]

Permeabilization is a ridiculous word, even in this context; it simply means “making permeable” (in other words, leaky!) Porous is the familiar word; hence: electroporation.
Ablation is a medical term for destroying (tissues).

History

In researching I found interesting scientific history to support this report. A historical review shows that irreversible electroporation may have been observed as early as 1754 when Nollet studied the discharge of a static electrical generator on the skin (Nollet, J. A. Recherches sur les causes particulieres des phénoménes électriques. Paris: Chez H.L. Guerin & L. F. Delatour (1754). Other studies that are possible candidates for a designation as the first studies on irreversible electroporation are the 1898 publication of Fuller, in which it is reported that multiple high voltage discharges have bactericidal effect on a water sample [Fuller, G.W. Report on the investigations into the purification of the Ohio river water at Louisville Kentucky. New York: D. Van Nostrand Company (1898)]. Some of the first systematic studies that describe phenomena typical of irreversible electroporation were done on myelinated nerve tissue such as the 1956 work of Frankenhauser and Widen, who base their work on the 1898 work of Biedermann (Biedermann, W. Electrophysiology Vol. (vol 2). London: Macmillan (1898)), and whose results were confirmed by Stampfli and Willi in 1957 (Stampfli, R., Willi, M. Membrane potential of a Ranvier node measured after electrical destruction of its membrane. Experientia 13, 297-298 (1957).

The seminal study on irreversible electroporation is a series of three 1960s papers by Sale and Hamilton who demonstrate a non-thermal lethal effect of high electrical fields on organisms in suspensions.

Hi Aragorn, thanks for these links.

Biofilms grow not only on organ mucus and inside cells, but also in everything implanted in the body:

_https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yPoSHP1MRNM

here they present the research done for modulating the electrical charge on the surface of the implant which disrupts the formation on biofilm by a voltage dependent killing rate of bacteria.
They found a synergistic relation between electric current stimulation and antibiotic activity: electricity alone was more potent than antibiotics, but together the result was complete eradication!

During the last few years I witnessed several good results with electroacupuncture therapy. We did not use antibiotics as we were not aware of the causes discussed in this thread.

But now, facing my lack of Herx reactions to antibiotics I wonder what happened (as I treated myself as well with electroacupuncture): maybe I should go without cortisone tomorrow.

Anyway, my speculation is that giving electrons to the system, which:
- can neutralize the free radicals
- can reestablish energy flow which was disrupted
- can reduce biofilm formation, maybe by disturbing that "quorum sensing" ability of microbes, that is communication

and also considering the beneficial effects of "earthing" , which also implies giving electrons to the body,

I think that this could be a good possibility to accelerate healing the body and mind of critters.

Just my 2 cents

Joy

Edit:quotes
 
I've got some more information on biofilms to offer -- first, there's this video interview with Robert Von Sarbacher:


The part that I found particularly interesting starts toward the beginning, just before 9:00. He says that, while biofilms did exist prior to the mid-20th century, they became a fundamental problem upon the introduction of vaccines and antibiotics, and this is when several skin conditions also became prevalent in the population. He also talks about how overzealous use of natural antimicrobials like raw garlic and oregano oil can destroy healthy gut flora, providing biofilms an opening to take root -- this is to be avoided if at all possible, because they are a lot harder to eradicate than to prevent. Post-antibiotic care is imperative in keeping opportunistic biofilms from colonizing an over-sterile gut until it can be repopulated with the right kinds of flora.

Related to this is a report on low-dose antibiotics and biofilms -- note that the antibiotics in the study were Beta-Lactam antibiotics (including ampicillin and amoxicillin), although the linked paper also mentions biofilm formation being induced by sub-inhibitory concentrations of tobramycin, tetracycline and norfloxacin:

http://oak-crest.org/oakcrest-news/scientist-finds-link-between-antibiotics-and-bacterial-biofilm-formation-cause-of-chronic-ear-sinus-and-lung-infections/

Scientist Finds Link between Antibiotics and Bacterial Biofilm Formation Cause of Chronic Ear, Sinus, and Lung Infections

Researchers from the University of Southern California and the Oak Crest Institute of Science have discovered the link between antibiotics and bacterial biofilm formation leading to chronic lung, sinus and ear infections. The study results, published in the current issue of PLOS ONE, illustrate how bacterial biofilms can actually thrive, rather than decrease, when given low doses of antibiotics.

“This research addresses the long standing issues surrounding chronic ear infections and why some children experience repeated ear infections even after antibiotic treatment,” said Paul Webster, Ph.D., lead author, senior staff scientist at USC and senior faculty at the Oak Crest Institute of Science. “Once the biofilm forms, it becomes stronger with each treatment of antibiotics.”

During the study, non-typeable Haemophilus influenza (NTHi) bacteria a common pathogen of humans was exposed to non-lethal doses of ampicillin, a class of antibiotics commonly used to treat respiratory, sinus and ear infections, or other beta-lactam antibiotics. The dose of the antibiotic was not enough to kill the bacteria which allowed the bacteria to react to the antibiotic by producing glycogen, a complex sugar often used by bacteria as a food source, to produce stronger biofilms when grown in the laboratory.

Biofilms are highly structured communities of microorganisms that attach to one another and to surfaces. The microorganisms group together and form a slimy, polysaccharide cover. This layer is highly protective for the organisms within it, and when new bacteria are produced they stay within the slimy layer. With the introduction of antibiotic-produced glycogen, the biofilms have an almost endless food source that can be used once antibiotic exposure has ended.

There are currently no approved treatments for biofilm-related infections. Therefore, bacteria forced into forming stronger biofilms will become more difficult to treat and will cause more severe chronic infections. Adults will suffer protracted lung infections as the bacteria hunker down into their protective slime, and children will have repeated ear infections. What may appear to be antibiotic resistance when an infection does not clear up may actually be biofilms at work.

Webster believes modern medicine needs to find ways of detecting and treating biofilm infections before the bacteria are able to form these protective structures. The difficulties of treating biofilm infections, which can be up to 1,000 times more resistant to antibiotics, have prompted some physicians to propose a gradual move away from traditional antibiotic treatments and toward non-antibiotic therapies.

“If antibiotics are to continue to be relevant for treating bacterial infections it is important that their effects on biofilms be explored,” says Dr. Webster. “One step in this direction would be to develop routine screening methods to test the effects of antibiotics on in vitro formed biofilms.”

Finally, I just finished reading James Schaller and Kimberly Mountjoy's book Combating Biofilms: Why Your Antibiotics and Antifungals Fail. Although it's not long, it has some good information and lots of references, and I recommend it. A large part of the book is devoted to biofilm treatments, which I'll summarize below -- several of these have already been mentioned, but some haven't:

Proven Treatments (depending on biofilm type)

  • Eugenol (also disrupts quorum sensing)
  • Linalool
  • Reserpine
  • Terpenoids
  • Allicin, Garlic, and DAS
  • Terminalia chebula Retz (also disrupts quorum sensing)
  • Apolactoferrin (the iron-free form of lactoferrin)
  • Xylitol
  • Erythritol
  • Aspirin (particularly in combination with EDTA)
  • Azithromycin
  • Silver (including colloidal silver)
  • Gingerol (can help modulate tetracycline resistance)
  • Stevia
  • Cumanda
  • Honey (particularly Manuka honey)
  • Reversed amino acids (the 'D-forms' instead of the 'L-forms')
  • Cathelicidin LL-37
  • RNAIII Inhibiting Enzyme (RIP)
  • Tinidazole and Metronidazole (may inhibit quorum sensing -- tinidazole much more effective than either metronidazole or doxycycline)
  • Food powders (olive pomace, olive juice powder, oregano, apple skin extract, grape seed extract)

Potential but Unproven Treatments

  • Serrapeptidase
  • Lumbrokinase
  • Nattokinase
  • Houttuynia cordata Thunb (HCT)

Antibiotics which promote biofilm growth

  • Erythromycin
  • Penicillin

The authors emphasize the point several times that biofilms are not identical -- depending on the constituent microorganisms and extent of the colonies, some treatments may work better than others, and treatment lengths and intensities may vary.
 
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Thank you, Shijing. I ordered Kindle version of the book and will post summary for the each treatment above.
 
Most interesting, Shijing. I guess I'll get back with my Erythritol. I missed it anyway. But I'll have to be taking NAC with it to combat the phlegm.

Meanwhile, I got my first small sample of camel's milk powder. Tastes so-so. Obviously, the powdered version is not going to be as good as the fresh/raw version, but I wanted to test it for tolerance. So far, after half a glass, no reactions.

Did a bit more reading and here's something I found:

Drink camel’s milk? Really? And, for those who cannot drink the milk from a goat or cow, is it possible camel’s might be for you?

As a nutritionist for children with autism for 10 years, my research and clinical experience indicate that most children with autism cannot adequately tolerate dairy. Particularly, their bodies have challenges digesting the protein casein. Even when milk is raw and contains A2 beta-casein (not A1), experience shows that most children do not tolerate it.

Camels are built differently than any other animal. Camels are not ruminants but are Tylopodes and have three stomachs, but they do ruminate. They can survive in incredibly harsh climates, and are able to live without water for 30 days at a time (even with little food), while still producing high quality milk. Imagine that! A large part of camel milk’s healing power stems from the unique and hardy immune system of camels, it’s unlike any other mammal.

Camel milk is highly nutritious. The milk contains only 2% fat (I’m not a fan of a low-fat, but these are the facts). The fat molecules are joined to protein, so there is no stress on the liver to process it. Higher in some nutrients and lower in others—camel milk is rich in vitamin C (5x that of cow’s milk), iron (10x) and calcium. The fat profile of camel milk varies in a “rich diet” (domesticated camels) versus the diet camels eat in the desert – but generally it’s high in polyunsaturated fatty acids, with a higher ratio of omega 3 to omega 6 compared with cow’s milk.

Camel milk is considered a complete food and can be consumed exclusively while meeting all nutritional requirements. Camel milk is most frequently consumed raw and unpasteurized, because the raw milk contains the most nutritional and immune properties. Only when the quality and safety of the milk is in question would someone pasteurize it.

Camel’s milk contains no beta-lactoglobulin and a “new” beta-casein (6). Therefore it is not reactive to children with autism and even non-allergenic to those with even the most sensitive allergy to milk and casein. One study found Camel’s milk was also not recognized from circulating IgEs from a child specifically allergic to ewe’s milk.(7) Children with severe food allergies react well to the milk, and astonishingly, fully recover from their allergies including to other foods (1).

Casein molecules are actually micelles and camel micelles have been found to be larger in size (15 nm) than those of cow milk or human milk. (8). Camel milk has a lower pH than other milk, so that upon entering the stomach the casein micelles do not breakdown into casein and whey and therefore do not break into casomorphins. Casomorphin creation from cow milk consumption is a common problem in autism that increases autistic symptoms.

Dr. Yagil says that “camel milk does not contain the two caseins that lead to the autism symptoms when drinking cow milk. Therefore camel milk can safely be drunk by autistic children.” The results published in a paper on camel milk for autism were very positive, especially for younger children that “showed an apparent complete recovery from autism after strict removal of cow’s milk”. (2) Regarding the results seen with autism, Dr. Yagil explains, “it is NOT only a case of repressing the clinical signs but a rehabilitation of the immune system. Therefore the kids completely recover. “

Since camel milk is nourishing and easy to digest, it does not trigger allergenic or opiate responses, and helps heal the gut and infections, protecting and enhancing the immune system.

The immunoglobulins (Igs) and protective proteins in camel milk contribute to camel milk’s incredible infection fighting and eradication capacity. Camel Igs (which exist in the milk) are able to penetrate into tissues and cells that human Igs were unable to. Therefore, they are able to get into the kidney or inside a cell, where they are also able to completely neutralize the enzyme activity of an infectious agent such as a bacteria or virus.

Camel milk also contains immunoglobulins (Igs) that are special in camels, including unique subclasses IgG2 and IgG3. The Igs are the same structure as human immunoglobulins but only one-tenth the size. Being so small, they can penetrate into tissues and organs to fight infection and aid repair, where human antibodies cannot.

Camel antibodies have superior antibacterial and antiviral properties. As stated in Dr. Reuven Yagil’s autoimmune paper, “conventional antibodies rarely show a complete neutralizing activity against enzyme antigens, but camel IgG has a full neutralizing activity against tetanus toxin as it enters the enzymes structure.” (9). Viruses can also be neutralized by knocking out their enzyme activity, and studies show the camel antibody is an effective inhibitor against hepatitis C enzyme system (10). _http://nourishinghope.com/2011/11/camel-milk-healing-or-hype/
 
With the research going down the electromagnetism route (energy etc) I keep wondering whether this was part of the health - giving function of Stonehenge energies of the ancients. Perhaps our bodies were nowhere near as infested then, but the resonance idea seems to make a lot of sense.

I recall that Stonehenge is not in alignment/ not 'functioning' any longer etc. But it is worth checking out as another possible source of healing? Perhaps there ARE places that CAN function still, or immanent energies we can 'harness' somehow?

Just read A Kombucha book I found in my library. Will check out the current thread on that too.
 
Last week I've found this article in Spanish, I'm not sure if some of the videos already mention something like this because I haven't watched them all, but I think it is quite interesting:

[size=14pt]Resolving social conflict is key to survival of bacterial communities[/size]

It turns out that, much like human societies, bacterial communities benefit when they can balance opposing needs within the group.

The discovery of this unusual behavior among bacteria in large communities, detailed in a paper in the July 22 advance online publication of Nature, comes not from any inherent altruism among the bacteria. Instead, it "emerges" spontaneously from the community in which the bacteria grow.

"It's an example of what we call 'emergent phenomena'," explained Gürol Süel, an associate professor of molecular biology at UC San Diego who headed the research effort. "Emergent phenomena are processes that you cannot observe or understand if you are studying individuals. You can only understand the process if you look at the collective."

Süel and his colleagues observed this unusual phenomenon while carefully measuring the growth of a microbial community called a "biofilm." Such communities of bacteria and other microorganisms form thin structures on surfaces--such as the tartar that develops on teeth--that are highly resistant to chemicals and antibiotics.

The UC San Diego biologists discovered that when the biofilm community reached a certain size, it suddenly began to oscillate in its growth. By complementing their experiments with mathematical modeling, the researchers discovered that these oscillations resolved a social conflict between individual cells that were cooperating, but also had to compete for food. The reason these biofilms are so hardy is that individuals within the community manage to resolve this internal conflict through coordinating their activities in space and time.

"Scientists have been trying for the longest time to figure out how to kill these biofilms," said Süel. "We also were puzzled by the resilience of these biofilms until we realized that the ability to resolve conflicts that naturally arise within the bacterial communities may play an important role."

The conflict is essentially this: Bacteria at the outer edges of the biofilm are the most vulnerable within their community to chemical and antibiotic attacks. At the same time, they also provide protection to the interior cells. But the bacteria at the outer edge are the closest to nutrients necessary for growth. So if they grow unchecked, they can consume all the food and starve the sheltered interior cells.

But that doesn't happen, because the biofilm develops an ingenious solution to this problem that the scientists call "metabolic codependence." Essentially, the interior cells produce a metabolite necessary for the growth of the bacteria on the outside. This provides the inner cells with the ability to periodically put the brakes on the growth of outer cells, which otherwise would consume all the food and starve the cells they are protecting from attack. By periodically preventing the growth on the periphery, inner cells ensure that they have sufficient access to nutrients. By keeping the protected inner cells alive, the biofilm has a much higher chance of surviving antibiotic treatment
.

This strategy allows bacteria with conflicting needs to take turns, like drivers approaching an intersection from different directions. In many ways, the internal social conflict within bacterial communities is not unlike the conflicts that opposing groups of individuals must find ways to resolve in order to maintain successful nations or communities.

{...}

Süel and his colleagues, who work in an emerging discipline of biology that employs mathematics and physics called "quantitative biology," focused on developing new methods to measure and mathematically model biological systems.

"We developed new techniques to precisely measure biofilm growth, and then quantitatively perturbed the system," said Süel. "And what we found was that the metabolic pathway in question may have been selected for this process by evolution because it involves a small molecule, ammonium, which can diffuse, that is, can get in and out of the cell quickly and can be shared among bacteria."

The discovery that bacteria essentially signal one another with this ammonium metabolite also allows them to chemically communicate with one another over very long distances.

Because the discovery offers a new way to control the growth of biofilms by eliminating the co-dependence of the interior and exterior bacteria, making them selfish rather than altruistic, UC San Diego has submitted a patent application to license the discovery.

"This is a new way to also think about attacking disease-causing biofilms, which are responsible for two-thirds of infections in hospital clinics and are a thousand times more resistant to antibiotics than the same bacterial cell might be outside the biofilm," Süel explained. "We allow the peripheral cells to become selfish or independent and then they kill the protected interior cells for us."

_http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2015/07/150722141424.htm

In the Spanish article, they said that after making the outer cells become selfish and kill the interior cells, they are more vulnerable to antibiotics, so one can then add pharmaceuticals to kill the remaining ones.

Of course, it is something in development, but I though it was very interesting information about how these critters work and possibly will bring a better idea of how to get rid of them.

FWIW...
 
Laura said:
Most interesting, Shijing. I guess I'll get back with my Erythritol. I missed it anyway. But I'll have to be taking NAC with it to combat the phlegm.

Meanwhile, I got my first small sample of camel's milk powder. Tastes so-so. Obviously, the powdered version is not going to be as good as the fresh/raw version, but I wanted to test it for tolerance. So far, after half a glass, no reactions.

Did a bit more reading and here's something I found:

Drink camel’s milk? Really? And, for those who cannot drink the milk from a goat or cow, is it possible camel’s might be for you?

As a nutritionist for children with autism for 10 years, my research and clinical experience indicate that most children with autism cannot adequately tolerate dairy. Particularly, their bodies have challenges digesting the protein casein. Even when milk is raw and contains A2 beta-casein (not A1), experience shows that most children do not tolerate it.

Camels are built differently than any other animal. Camels are not ruminants but are Tylopodes and have three stomachs, but they do ruminate. They can survive in incredibly harsh climates, and are able to live without water for 30 days at a time (even with little food), while still producing high quality milk. Imagine that! A large part of camel milk’s healing power stems from the unique and hardy immune system of camels, it’s unlike any other mammal.

Camel milk is highly nutritious. The milk contains only 2% fat (I’m not a fan of a low-fat, but these are the facts). The fat molecules are joined to protein, so there is no stress on the liver to process it. Higher in some nutrients and lower in others—camel milk is rich in vitamin C (5x that of cow’s milk), iron (10x) and calcium. The fat profile of camel milk varies in a “rich diet” (domesticated camels) versus the diet camels eat in the desert – but generally it’s high in polyunsaturated fatty acids, with a higher ratio of omega 3 to omega 6 compared with cow’s milk.

Camel milk is considered a complete food and can be consumed exclusively while meeting all nutritional requirements. Camel milk is most frequently consumed raw and unpasteurized, because the raw milk contains the most nutritional and immune properties. Only when the quality and safety of the milk is in question would someone pasteurize it.

Camel’s milk contains no beta-lactoglobulin and a “new” beta-casein (6). Therefore it is not reactive to children with autism and even non-allergenic to those with even the most sensitive allergy to milk and casein. One study found Camel’s milk was also not recognized from circulating IgEs from a child specifically allergic to ewe’s milk.(7) Children with severe food allergies react well to the milk, and astonishingly, fully recover from their allergies including to other foods (1).

Casein molecules are actually micelles and camel micelles have been found to be larger in size (15 nm) than those of cow milk or human milk. (8). Camel milk has a lower pH than other milk, so that upon entering the stomach the casein micelles do not breakdown into casein and whey and therefore do not break into casomorphins. Casomorphin creation from cow milk consumption is a common problem in autism that increases autistic symptoms.

Dr. Yagil says that “camel milk does not contain the two caseins that lead to the autism symptoms when drinking cow milk. Therefore camel milk can safely be drunk by autistic children.” The results published in a paper on camel milk for autism were very positive, especially for younger children that “showed an apparent complete recovery from autism after strict removal of cow’s milk”. (2) Regarding the results seen with autism, Dr. Yagil explains, “it is NOT only a case of repressing the clinical signs but a rehabilitation of the immune system. Therefore the kids completely recover. “

Since camel milk is nourishing and easy to digest, it does not trigger allergenic or opiate responses, and helps heal the gut and infections, protecting and enhancing the immune system.

The immunoglobulins (Igs) and protective proteins in camel milk contribute to camel milk’s incredible infection fighting and eradication capacity. Camel Igs (which exist in the milk) are able to penetrate into tissues and cells that human Igs were unable to. Therefore, they are able to get into the kidney or inside a cell, where they are also able to completely neutralize the enzyme activity of an infectious agent such as a bacteria or virus.

Camel milk also contains immunoglobulins (Igs) that are special in camels, including unique subclasses IgG2 and IgG3. The Igs are the same structure as human immunoglobulins but only one-tenth the size. Being so small, they can penetrate into tissues and organs to fight infection and aid repair, where human antibodies cannot.

Camel antibodies have superior antibacterial and antiviral properties. As stated in Dr. Reuven Yagil’s autoimmune paper, “conventional antibodies rarely show a complete neutralizing activity against enzyme antigens, but camel IgG has a full neutralizing activity against tetanus toxin as it enters the enzymes structure.” (9). Viruses can also be neutralized by knocking out their enzyme activity, and studies show the camel antibody is an effective inhibitor against hepatitis C enzyme system (10). _http://nourishinghope.com/2011/11/camel-milk-healing-or-hype/

This is very interesting Laura, thanks for the information.

We've been checking the prices of camel's milk and it's rather expensive, so I wondered if South American camelids' milk would have the same components and benefits.

So far I've found a paper where they test and discuss if the same antibodies are present and the result is yes, all camelids have the particular type of IgGH which, acording to the people working on that paper, seems to have developed as a more antipathogenic protection, meaning that it's like a broad spectrum type of antibody. But I haven't found anything on casein yet.

I'm sorry I haven't got the paper to quote here because I'm in another computer. I'll gather some information on the subject to see if South American camelids can be an option for people in Latin America, at least. They also seem to be better to have as farm animals since they are smaller and probably more adapted to different weather conditions.
 
LQB said:
Laura said:
LQB said:
LQB said:
Anyway, he used the frequencies of these buggers (via the machine) to infuse 4 different homeopathic base solutions for my consumption over the next 3 weeks (3X per day). The whole process took about 4 hours. I’ll see him again in 3 weeks and we’ll test again. I’ll update with the results.

I started the treatment solutions last Fri eve. Since then there have been mild herx reactions of headache, aches/pains in unusual places, tiredness, and increased gas production. These are not debilitating but unusual for me.

Most interesting. Keep us posted.

Will do. Also I meant to add that I slept 9 hrs last night - my normal is closer to 7hrs.

Yesterday there was about an hour of hot fever-like condition accompanied with nausea, more gas, and general malaise/low energy - all unusual for me.
 
LQB said:
Yesterday there was about an hour of hot fever-like condition accompanied with nausea, more gas, and general malaise/low energy - all unusual for me.

VERY promising! Sounds like you are getting some action!
 
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