Bird Flu, Swine Flu, Vaccines

[anart]

Then again, Puck, there is this article... http://www.sott.net/articles/show/193370-Massachusetts-Boston-Residents-Vaccinated-for-H1N1-to-be-Issued-Bracelets-with-Tracking-Codes

I'm just trying to wrap my head around the idea of people walking around with these bracelets willingly - they must be really fashionable bracelets!! Not to mention that once the patient data is entered into the computer, why would they even need the bracelet? They've collected patient data on flu shots for quite a while (to my knowledge) - is this just to scan the bracelet later to prove the person who died from the vaccine actually got the vaccine? (sort of kidding there...) Bizarre. Does anyone on the forum live in Boston? Maybe they could update us on these fashion accessories...

 

[Cyre2067]

The likelihood of them putting one entire medical history on a bracelet is pretty slim, however they could make bracelets solely for the purpose of registering whether or not you've had the H1N1 vaccine - seems like that's what they're doing in Boston as an 'experiment'. Though these are barcode based, not RFID, and it seems that the purpose here is more to create a database for info mining for the medical professionals to facilitate the vaccination process.

I'm relatively certain the original was pure fear-mongering, mostly given the source and the carriers. The original source is still offline, so it all seems very shady to me. This whole vaccine craze is kinda close to home because I work in a hospital and they've been giving out the seasonal like lottery tickets... people line up and get em, I guess its just routine for hospital workers but it's quite unsettling to me.

We're having a few 'town hall' meetings with the hospital dean, I thought of going and bringing up the dangers of the H1N1 vaccine and asking about whether or not the hospital will be offering it, and if so if it will be required (the seasonal is mandatory in NY state if you have direct contact with patients). Just to see if I can get a feel for what's being planned.

 

[gaman]

The bracelets could possibly be used as a "badge of honor" to create positive and negative peer pressure on those resistant to the idea of taking the vaccine.

 

[Regulattor]

Found interesting article today in which author connects El Nino with possible "Swine flu" outbreak.

El Niño, Global Warming Link Questioned; Possible Link Between 1918 El Niño And Flu Pandemic?

ScienceDaily (Sep. 15, 2009) — Research conducted at Texas A&M University casts doubts on the notion that El Niño has been getting stronger because of global warming and raises interesting questions about the relationship between El Niño and a severe flu pandemic 91 years ago. The findings are based on analysis of the 1918 El Niño, which the new research shows to be one of the strongest of the 20th century.

El Niño occurs when unusually warm surface waters form over vast stretches of the eastern Pacific Ocean and can affect weather systems worldwide. Using advanced computer models, Benjamin Giese, a professor of oceanography who specializes in ocean modeling, and his co-authors conducted a simulation of the global oceans for the first half of the 20th century and they find that, in contrast with prior descriptions, the 1918-19 El Niño was one of the strongest of the century.

Giese's work will be published in the current Bulletin of the American Meteorological Society, and the research project was funded by NOAA (National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration) and the National Science Foundation.

Giese says there were few measurements of the tropical Pacific Ocean in 1918, the last year of World War I, and the few observations that are available from 1918 are mostly along the coast of South America. "But the model results show that the El Niño of 1918 was stronger in the central Pacific, with a weaker signature near the coast," Giese explains. "Thus the limited measurements likely missed detecting the 1918 El Niño."

Giese adds, "The most commonly used indicator of El Niño is the ocean temperature anomaly in the central Pacific Ocean. By that standard, the 1918-19 El Niño is as strong as the events in 1982-83 and 1997-98, considered to be two of the strongest events on record, causing some researchers to conclude that El Niño has been getting stronger because of global warming. Since the 1918-19 El Niño occurred before significant warming from greenhouse gasses, it makes it difficult to argue that El Niño s have been getting stronger."

The El Niño of 1918 coincided with one of the worst droughts in India, he adds. "It is well known that there is a connection between El Niño and the failure of the Indian monsoon, just as there is a well-established connection between El Niño and Atlantic hurricane intensity," Giese says. In addition to drought in India and Australia, 1918 was also a year in which there were few Atlantic hurricanes.

The research also raises questions about El Niño and mortality from the influenza pandemic of 1918. By mid-1918, a flu outbreak – which we now know was the H1N1 strain that is of great concern today – was sweeping the world, and the resulting fatalities were catastrophic: At least 25 million people died worldwide, with some estimates as high as 100 million deaths. India was particularly hard hit by the influenza.

"We know that there is a connection between El Niño and drought in India," Giese notes.

"It seems probable that mortality from influenza was high in India because of famine associated with drought, so it is likely that El Niño contributed to the high mortality from influenza in India."

The flu epidemic of 1918, commonly called the "Spanish Flu," is believed to be the greatest medical holocaust in history. It lasted from March of 1918 to June of 1920, and about 500 million people worldwide became infected, with the disease killing between 25 million to 100 million, most of them young adults. An estimated 17 million died in India, between 500,000 to 675,000 died in the U.S. and another 400,000 died in Japan.

Could the events of 1918 be a harbinger of what might occur in 2009?

Giese says there are some interesting parallels. The winter and spring in 1918 were unusually cold throughout North America, just at the time influenza started to spread in the central U.S. That was followed by a strengthening El Niño and subsequent drought in India. As the El Niño matured in the fall of 1918, the influenza became a pandemic.

With a moderate to strong El Niño now forming in the Pacific and the H1N1 flu strain apparently making a vigorous comeback, the concerns today are obvious, Giese adds.

Source:http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/09/090914173012.htm

Food for thought, definitively!

 

[mamadrama]

Thanks, Regulattor. The article is here: http://www.sott.net/articles/show/193419-El-Ni-o-Global-Warming-Link-Questioned-Possible-Link-Between-1918-El-Ni-o-And-Flu-Pandemic-

 

[GMFaudio]

Hello all-

I am not sure if I am overreacting but I caught this video today on YouTube - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNrMY9vsiCc

"Forced vaccinations: a whistleblower's clear warning - reposted by Project Camelot"

Another linked video:

_http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3DpNBToYl4

Military check points to enforce swine flu vaccination shots! Mandatory RFID chip

I don't know who "Project Camelot" is, maybe COINTELPRO, but the reason this struck a cord with me is that it talks about the Southern California area, which I am a current resident of. The video talked about current training for state and local law enforcement to put up roadblocks for individuals to prove that they have been vaccinated. They also talk about an permeate RFID tags. If people refuse to get the shot, they are then bussed to a holding camp. I know that the C's have talked a bit about this and we have heard rumblings here and there, but nothing in terms of a specific date until this video.

Has anyone else heard about this?

Should I be worried?

Thanks Group

 

[Gimpy]

Hi GMFaudio,

Project Camelot is a cointelpro site, if you do a search in that section (cointelpro) it will pop up.

They seem to excell at fear mongering. I would take anything they encourage with a large tub of salt.

 

[GMFaudio]

Nice.

When someone or some group just blatantly makes these types of claims, it really makes me think twice about the source. But my internal emotional reaction came from the notion to protect my friends and family, which are in the supposed related area.

Why would someone make a video with such stark claims within very soon-to-be time frame? In addition, I remember reading about "forced vaccinations", in that recent newsletter that came from two individuals who came up with program that would statistically attempt to predict the future by using internet terms (I cannot remember the name for the life of me), but it was talked about here within the group when it came out about a month ago.

Anywho, I am glad to know that I should take Project Camelot with a massively huge boulder of salt. :P

Thanks for your reply.

 

[Cyre2067]

Yeah we were also discussing the same information, though this was in an email circulated over at this thread.

http://www.cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php?topic=13701.0

We more or less came to the same conclusion: fear mongering. There was an interesting story about Boston Medical establishment using barcode bracelets to register people who got the seasonal vaccine - perhaps that's the grain of truth hidden in all this nonsense.



Moderator Edited link for 'clickability' :)

 

[Bobo08]

Why would someone make a video with such stark claims within very soon-to-be time frame?

Remember the boy who cried wolf too often and no one came when the wolf really came? If they make such sensationalist claims every now and then and they all turn out to be false, people will be desensitized to it and not listen to the real alarm any more, until it is too late.

 

[GMFaudio]

Remember the boy who cried wolf too often and no one came when the wolf really came? If they make such sensationalist claims every now and then and they all turn out to be false, people will be desensitized to it and not listen to the real alarm any more, until it is too late.

Very good point.


I suppose in my mind, I have this feeling that "something" is going to happen soon. I know we have said it is not where you are, in terms of your location, but more of where you are in your progression of The Work. I feel that because my location is a "high frequency bombardment" location, i.e. more then other locations perhaps. It might be a good idea to move somewhere else less densely populated. These are of course, thoughts or feelings now, but feelings grows stronger in that it might be the right choice sooner then later.

I strive to act and think logically, and proceed with as much awareness as possible.

I really appreciate the groups input.

Thank you again. :)

 

[anart]

Yeah we were also discussing the same information, though this was in an email circulated over at this thread.

http://www.cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php?topic=13701.0

We more or less came to the same conclusion: fear mongering. There was an interesting story about Boston Medical establishment using barcode bracelets to register people who got the seasonal vaccine - perhaps that's the grain of truth hidden in all this nonsense.



Moderator Edited link for 'clickability' :)

The threads have been merged.

 

[Charlie]

We're having a few 'town hall' meetings with the hospital dean, I thought of going and bringing up the dangers of the H1N1 vaccine and asking about whether or not the hospital will be offering it, and if so if it will be required (the seasonal is mandatory in NY state if you have direct contact with patients). Just to see if I can get a feel for what's being planned.

I live pretty close to the University of Iowa. Seasonal flu shots are required this year for all faculty, staff, volunteers, vendors and contractors for UI Hospitals and Clinics, Carver College of Medicine and UI physicians. This includes the H1N1 vaccine. Employees are being threatened with termination if they do not participate. Their union has filed for an injunction but it has not been granted yet.

One of the hospitals in my city where flu shots are not mandatory are offering incentives instead.

Mercy Medical Center in Cedar Rapids is providing a number of incentives to promote seasonal flu shots for employees and volunteers.

Signs are posted throughout the hospital and workers enrolled in Mercy’s corporate wellness program who get a flu shot can earn points to reduce their health insurance premiums.

As added incentive, all employees who get a flu shot are entered into drawings for gift certificates and a Nintendo Wii and Wii Fit game and receive a coupon for a discount at Mercy’s coffee shop.

Here are a couple links to the articles:
http://gazetteonline.com/local-news/2009/09/08/injunction-filed-to-stop-mandatory-h1n1-flu-shots
http://gazetteonline.com/local-news/2009/09/09/plans-proceed-for-mandatory-flu-shots-at-ui-other-hospitals-encourage-shots-for-workers

 

[JEEP]

Thanks for your feedback Vulcan59. I think you are right, there is very little point in my trying to educate the health director any further on the matter. However, hopefully I opened their eyes a little bit with my initial letter.

I totally disagree. My spouse works in administration for a college and I can see that the way things are going, he, the faculty and staff, and students could be required to get vaccinated - probably 3 times (1 regular flu/2 swine flu)!

OSU students prepped for swine flu
Summer mailers listed key supplies, isolation plan to prevent spread

By Suzanne Hoholik
THE COLUMBUS DISPATCH

Published: Tuesday, September 15, 2009
Edition: Home Final
Section: News
Page: 01B

Ohio State University officials sent e-mails and fliers to students during the summer to teach them about swine flu before they moved back to campus. "We had seven confirmed cases in the spring, and we fully anticipate there will be flu on campus this fall," said Dr. Roger Miller, a preventive-medicine physician at the OSU Wilce Student Health Center.

The information included prevention tips such as frequent hand-washing and covering coughs.

Schools in Ohio and across the country are reporting cases of swine flu, officially called H1N1.

Officials also told students to add thermometers, tissues and hand sanitizers to their back-to-school supplies. New dorm residents will receive "stay well bags" that include some of these items.

Yesterday, university officials said that students who develop flulike symptoms will be asked to isolate themselves or go home to their parents. They will need to tell their roommates and resident assistant, and arrangements will be made to have food delivered to them if they stay on campus. Roommates will not be asked to move, because they will have been exposed before symptoms show up. Students with mild symptoms don't have to call the student health center or hospital, Miller said.

The Ohio Department of Health has stopped testing individual cases to confirm swine flu unless the person meets specific criteria. University officials will assume that all suspected cases are swine flu. Miller said faculty members have been asked to accommodate students with the flu.

"They may have rules that state, 'Students can't miss class.' We're asking they be flexible," he said.

Unlike some other Ohio universities, Ohio State does not plan to set up quarantine areas. The university tripled its order of the seasonal-flu vaccine this year, to 6,000 doses, and has them available at the student health center. Faculty and staff members can get vaccinated through OSU Medical Center. The nursing and medical schools are requiring that students get the seasonal-flu vaccine. Miller said they are the only two colleges doing so.

Nationwide Children's Hospital told workers yesterday that they will be required to get both the seasonal and H1N1 vaccines. The hospital has the seasonal vaccine for employees and will distribute the H1N1 vaccine when it becomes available.

6000 doses of vaccine to distribute! And who's informing these prospective victims of the risks they will be exposed to?!!

I am in the process of preparing a list of links for my spouse to deliver for discussion with the appropriate VP's and President. Partial list:

SWINE FLU/ FLU LINKS:
Video - http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2009/07/04/Warning-Swine-Flu-Vaccine-Coming-Soon.aspx
http://www.sott.net/articles/show/192317-Historical-Facts-About-the-Dangers-and-Failures-of-Vaccines
Videos - http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2009/09/01/Swine-Flu-Shot-Linked-to-Killer-Nerve-Disease.aspx
http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2009/09/08/Another-Shocking-Warning-About-Swine-Flu-Vaccine.aspx
http://www.sott.net/articles/show/193336-Nano-Particles-used-in-Untested-H1N1-Swine-Flu-Vaccines
http://www.sott.net/articles/show/191535-Swine-Flu-Vaccine-linked-to-Paralysis
http://www.sott.net/articles/show/193367-Eighteen-Reasons-Why-You-Should-NOT-Vaccinate-Your-Children-Against-The-Flu-This-Season
http://www.sott.net/articles/show/182909-Swine-flu-debacle-of-1976-is-recalled
Video - http://www.sott.net/articles/show/187561-Video-Swine-Flu-Propaganda-in-1976

VACCINES:
http://www.sott.net/articles/show/193427-David-Kirby-New-Study-Hepatitis -B-Vaccine-Triples-the-Risk-of-Autism-in-Infant-Boys
http://www.sott.net/articles/show/192491-Study-Proves-Link-Between-Thimerosal-and-Autism-Neurotoxicity

ALTERNATIVE TREATMENT:
http://www.sott.net/articles/show/183126-Homeopathy-Successfully-Treated-Flu-Epidemic-of-1918

I have worried about this quite a lot for a couple of reasons: 1) If you listened to the Richard Dolan: UFOs and the National Security State podcast, he explicates quite clearly that discussing topics out of the mainstream in an academic environment is practically career suicide - you definitely don't want to rock the boat! Especially anything that hints of conspiracy theory!! 2) What happens if I do nothing? The bad guys succeed in carrying out their nefarious plan! If you reread the material and watch the videos, it really becomes impossible for anyone of good conscience to not do anything. Plus, the overwhelming evidence that this is a legitimate health crisis and that vaccines are the answer is just too obviously untrue!

I'm choosing the direct approach but for you, a better approach might be through the students themselves. Send this list of links (with any additional that you desire) along with your comments to the student newspaper! Think those students will sit on that info - not likely!

Perhaps the same should be sent to the Chronicle of Higher Education, a newspaper that presents news, information, and jobs for college and university faculty members and administrators. Also available online with a forum! Of course, that info might not ever see the light of day there - I'm sure the PTB carry a lot of influence in that environment!

 

[JEEP]

I am sitting here looking at my copy of the Columbus Dispatch, dated Sept 16, page A3 of Nation & World, and the article, H1N1 vaccine gets feds' OK from the Associated Press. I inputed this into the keyword search of the newspaper archives 4 times and it came back no article found! Did this appear on Sott.net? Didn't find it with search if so. It is on the Associated Press website: (_http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/09/15/AR2009091501868.html)

FDA approves new swine flu vaccine

By LAURAN NEERGAARD
The Associated Press
Tuesday, September 15, 2009; 5:17 PM

WASHINGTON -- The Food and Drug Administration approved the new swine flu vaccine Tuesday, a long-anticipated step as the government works to start mass vaccinations next month. Limited supplies should start trickling out the first week of October - about a week earlier than expected, Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius told Congress. Then about 45 million doses should arrive around Oct. 15, followed by more shipments each week.

She said they'll be available at up to 90,000 sites, including schools and clinics, across the U.S. that state health departments have chosen as best at getting the shots out fast.

Eventually, "we will have enough vaccine available for everyone," Sebelius said. Everyone who wants it, that is.

The government has ordered 195 million doses but may order more if there's enough demand, she said. Typically fewer than 100 million Americans seek flu vaccine every year, and it's unclear whether swine flu - what scientists prefer to call the 2009 H1N1 strain - will prompt much more demand. A recent Associated Press-GfK poll found 57 percent of people said they were likely to get it.

This year is unusual: Many people will have to line up twice for flu vaccine, once to be inoculated against regular winter flu and a second time for an H1N1 vaccination.

The new swine flu seems no more deadly than regular winter flu, which every year kills 36,000 Americans and hospitalizes 200,000. But there's an important difference: This H1N1 strain sickens younger people more frequently than the people over 65 who are the main victims of seasonal flu.

So the government wants certain people in line first for the H1N1 vaccinations: Pregnant women; the young, from age 6 months up through age 24; and people younger than 65 who have flu-risky conditions such as asthma, diabetes or heart disease; caregivers of the at-risk, including newborns; and health workers.

The vast majority of people who get swine flu "so far are not terribly ill," Sebelius noted, saying most will recover fine at home with some rest and fluids. And they shouldn't race to doctors' offices seeking tests to find out what kind of flu they have - H1N1 or the regular strains that circulate every winter - because treatment is the same.

"The flu is the flu is the flu right now," Sebelius said.

Nor should doctors hand out prescriptions for anti-flu medicines to be used to prevent flu, she added, because "it could make them sicker in the long run."

The drugs Tamiflu and Relenza should be used for treatment only, she stressed.

Sebelius announced the FDA's approval of vaccine made by four of the expected five manufacturers: CSL Ltd. of Australia, Switzerland's Novartis Vaccines, Sanofi Pasteur of France - which produces flu shots at its Swiftwater, Pa., factory - and Maryland-based MedImmune LLC, which makes the only nasal-spray flu vaccine.

London-based GlaxoSmithKline also was expected to supply vaccine. Sebelius said only that a fifth manufacturer's vaccine was expected to be approved soon, pending some final steps.

Getting licensing from the FDA means that the vaccine is made properly and meets specific manufacturing and quality standards.

What's the right dose? Figuring that out is the job of the National Institutes of Health, which last week announced studies showing that one dose appears to protect adults - and that protection kicks in just eight to 10 days after the shot, faster than scientists had predicted.

Studies in children and pregnant women are continuing to settle on the right dose for those populations.(Yeah - the right dose to kill them!)

The H1N1 vaccine seems just as safe as the long-used regular flu vaccine, the FDA said, not a surprise as it's made the same way. Side effects include soreness or redness at the injection site, and some fever. (Because those vaccines were oh so safe as well! Never mind the cancer, autism, and death factors! Minor side effects really!)

The government will keep a sharp eye for any very rare side effects. The last mass vaccination against a different swine flu, in 1976, was marred by reports of the paralyzing Guillain-Barre syndrome; scientists never proved whether that link was real or coincidence. (But funny how it cost the director of the U.S. Center for Disease Control, now known as the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, his job!)

Waiting in long lines at schools and clinics, more than 40 million Americans -- almost 25% of the population -- received the swine flu vaccine before the program was halted in December after 10 weeks. More than 500 people are thought to have developed Guillain-Barre syndrome after receiving the vaccine and 25 died.

But scientists never proved whether that link was real or coincidence - well, except for this:
"A study from CDC scientists published in the current issue of the journal Drug Safety concludes that evidence exists for a link between the 1976 swine flu vaccine and Guillain-Barre syndrome but not for most other vaccines developed in the last 55 years." (http://www.sott.net/articles/show/182909-Swine-flu-debacle-of-1976-is-recalled)

And this:

A warning letter about the swine flu vaccine was leaked to the DailyMail over the weekend. Written by Professor Elizabeth Miller, head of the Health Protection Agency's Immunization Department, it warns neurologists that the influenza vaccine of 1976 was linked to a devastating neurological condition called Guillain-Barre Syndrome (GBS). "The vaccines used to combat an expected swine influenza pandemic in 1976 were shown to be associated with GBS and were withdrawn from use," says the July 29 letter.

And this:

A second letter has also surfaced with a warning about the swine flu vaccine. It's from the Association of British Neurologists and is authored by Dr. Rustam Al-Shahi Salman and Professor Patrick Chinnery. It says "Following the 1976 program of vaccination against swine influenza in the US, a retrospective study found a possible eight-fold increase in the incidence of GBS."

The first study probably had something to do with the government having to pay claims totaling $1.3 billion filed by victims who had suffered paralysis from the experimental vaccine. But, hey, who's money is it anyway - just you dumb, gullible taxpayers! Of course, the PTB have that base covered this time - no liability! So too bad for you and your family if you develop some devastating condition or even die! The psychopaths triumph once again!