Boardlurker? Read this!!

Thanks for your kind replies. Next off for me: introduction.
Kinda like eating the icecream before dinner, but whatever!
 
Participation, of course. But not competition, nor adding more noise !
Reading isn't the Work but is a first step. And there is a lot to read !
So much that it's quite uneasy, at the beginning, to know how to deal with all the information.
When getting through a whole thread, one may be speechless at the end, feeling that everything has been said; or may be that there is no need to add anything.
To start a new thread, you have to know if it's relevant, if it has already been discussed...
It takes a while before mastering the database and be able to really participate in a creative way.

Then, once we are over it, I mean when we have a good enough overview of the material in this forum, it's time to eventually add our voice to it.

Knowledge is essential, but without action it's meaningless. Right now, I didn't find (yet) something specific to actions in social life, how to be a (spiritual) warrior... May be, when I'm ready and if it's relevant, I'll start posting about this... And my "disturbance in the force" will lessen it's grip and allow the flow to soar :boat:
 
Thank you. I think as in 3D a younger/novice needs this type of reminder and firm voice at times from an elder/mentor.
 
Guilty. I've been reading, watching, observing. So much information here it's difficult to peel myself away. Didn't want to set sail and head directly into a Maelstrom. I posted a few things in the last 24 hours, and will continue. thanks
 
I was told in a past life reading that I should learn to work with groups more, so here I am! Having read the Wave and much of Laura's work, so many things now click and things I've pondered for twenty or more years have come into the light, so to speak. OK, I'm open to sharing, hugs xoxo
 
Thanks, I needed this kick.

I think too many people use rationalizations like 'I don't know enough about x subject' when in actual fact most people have more than they know to offer, even if it's just letting someone know you've been in the same situation as them and you found a certain thing to help you.

This is the case for me anyway :)
 
Nice to see that this thread has helped all of you like it helped me. Since it has been said that life is lessons, I think the most serious work we can accomplish is to learn. You're free to participate, ask questions, and get involved, so good luck to each of you!
 
I'm posting here to remark that how often I post on the forum here changes with the season. I post a lot in spring-summer but far less in autum/winter.

Funny pattern.... :halo: I wonder how unique that pattern is?
 
Why do I Board-Lurk?

It is probably just a chain of excuses, but I leave that to others to decide.

Firstly time; If I spend an hour a day looking at the new posts, I could not read nor process them in a constructive way, rather to say it would be like half listening to a conversation and then jumping in with some odd comment. It was pointed out to me recently, that I should just focus on threads that I have a direct interest in, so maybe I shall try that for a while.

Secondly noise; Miss the Forum for a week, and there are, in some threads, over 3 or 4 screens of posts. This leads me only to go to the last screen or two, and then I feel I cannot comment as there is a high probability that a similar comment exists above, then I would be adding to the noise, which is inconsiderate, not my aim. Solution to above may also fit this, but then am I missing something important.

Thirdly I don't read well (fast), I think I listen well, and find verbal interaction much easier to cope with. Not sure if 'cope' is the right word, I just find the process of face-to-face personal interaction more fulfilling.

Finally related to the Third, my wife is also on the forum, and we talk about the news and issues related to the C's and books to look at a lot, and as said, I do not read that well, hence I struggle to work my way through the Wave, and recently Marc Bloch's The Historians Craft ( I believe the root of Laura's methods ). This leaves a lot of unread material, I know, however I find the incentive to be able to discuss the material motivates me a lot more, and hence my next endeavour will be Political Ponerology.

I guess reading back over what I have just written, I need to be a little more organised and selective in what I try to do, otherwise I will end up doing bits of everything and completing nothing!
 
williamsj said:
Why do I Board-Lurk?

It is probably just a chain of excuses, but I leave that to others to decide.

Firstly time; If I spend an hour a day looking at the new posts, I could not read nor process them in a constructive way, rather to say it would be like half listening to a conversation and then jumping in with some odd comment. It was pointed out to me recently, that I should just focus on threads that I have a direct interest in, so maybe I shall try that for a while.

Secondly noise; Miss the Forum for a week, and there are, in some threads, over 3 or 4 screens of posts. This leads me only to go to the last screen or two, and then I feel I cannot comment as there is a high probability that a similar comment exists above, then I would be adding to the noise, which is inconsiderate, not my aim. Solution to above may also fit this, but then am I missing something important.

Thirdly I don't read well (fast), I think I listen well, and find verbal interaction much easier to cope with. Not sure if 'cope' is the right word, I just find the process of face-to-face personal interaction more fulfilling.

Finally related to the Third, my wife is also on the forum, and we talk about the news and issues related to the C's and books to look at a lot, and as said, I do not read that well, hence I struggle to work my way through the Wave, and recently Marc Bloch's The Historians Craft ( I believe the root of Laura's methods ). This leaves a lot of unread material, I know, however I find the incentive to be able to discuss the material motivates me a lot more, and hence my next endeavour will be Political Ponerology.

I guess reading back over what I have just written, I need to be a little more organised and selective in what I try to do, otherwise I will end up doing bits of everything and completing nothing!
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I think we can all relate to this. I would love to keep up to date with every single thread, but alas, my brain is not a computer. However you can still keep up with certain important threads and make contributions. There is a whole lot of material to catch up with, but just keep at it. It's a good opportunity to train your mind to just sit and read, and learn to read faster.

You'll not get through Political Ponerology quickly though, whatever you try ;). As well as the very dense and precise language, I often found that, after every couple of pages, I'd have to sit and catch my breath, due to the sheer profundity of what he was saying. It's one for serious reflection.
 
Hesper said:
Nice to see that this thread has helped all of you like it helped me. Since it has been said that life is lessons, I think the most serious work we can accomplish is to learn. You're free to participate, ask questions, and get involved, so good luck to each of you!
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This thread has helped me also, and has helped me to commit myself to posting more. I can relate to several of the postings here, such as:

Immersion said:
I think too many people use rationalizations like 'I don't know enough about x subject' when in actual fact most people have more than they know to offer, even if it's just letting someone know you've been in the same situation as them and you found a certain thing to help you.
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I have been learning quite a bit since joining this forum, and doing some serious reading of the threads and recommended books. But when I read the above quote from Immersion, I knew that I was rationalizing not posting because I had not finished a particular book yet, felt I didn't know enough about the subject, or that what I would add had already been discussed and would be noise.

eoste said:
Participation, of course. But not competition, nor adding more noise !
Reading isn't the Work but is a first step. And there is a lot to read !
So much that it's quite uneasy, at the beginning, to know how to deal with all the information.
When getting through a whole thread, one may be speechless at the end, feeling that everything has been said; or may be that there is no need to add anything.
To start a new thread, you have to know if it's relevant, if it has already been discussed...
It takes a while before mastering the database and be able to really participate in a creative way.

Then, once we are over it, I mean when we have a good enough overview of the material in this forum, it's time to eventually add our voice to it.
Click to expand...

There is a lot to read, much of which I would not have found on my own, without this forum. I am working on an overview of the material on the forum, day by day, and thanks to all who have posted here.
 
Well, I'm busted. I am one of those who just read/lurk. I think about posting but most of the time find an excuse to not pull the trigger, as it were. I sense trepidation in that I have nothing to say and will be ridiculed for being such a lightweight. I know this to be untrue as I see evidence of patience and caring on the forum daily. Perhaps I don't want to face some unpleasant truths about myself. I also fear that I will end up just talking about myself. (My wife constantly tells me that I am self-centered and arrogant.)

I understand the importance of 'mirroring' and know that it can't take place without interaction. When I first introduced myself on the newby thread, the reactions to what I wrote stung. After a time I realized that the reactions were true. So I reintroduced myself and moved on. I am accustomed in my small world to being the teacher/preacher. Those around me see me as the smart go-to guy. I assure them that what I don't know would fill oceans. It becomes apparent when I read Laura's books and try to follow discussions on the forum.

I believe, like most of you all that what is important is the work. But I'm lazy. Eiriu Eolas? Perhaps I'll do it tomorrow. I can spend hours/days/months on a woodcarving but not five minutes on finding out if I'm getting the proper nutrients in my diet [Paleo]. Ok. In the past (40 years ago) when I began this journey I decided that my challenges were: Guilt, Fear and Laziness. Apparently they still are. At least I can perhaps insert myself more into the forum and thereby learn in a more direct way.

A large part of this block is that I have never been a joiner. Yet, I am drawn to join in this community. I see great value here. It just never occurred to me that reading without interacting was selfish. It would fit my profile though.
 
When I first read the thread name, I thought it was something belonging to the cryptozoology section.
Anyway, I definitely don't post that much as I'm spending most of my time reading the Wave series as well as other things of my interest.
 
This post made me aware of part of the splinter that holds me to the fence.

- Fear of being judged
- The predators mind taking over in various forms every time one is about to hit the keyboard

Guess it does the trick being pointed at, so one can be more self-aware.

Thank you!
 
Whenever I move toward the idea of posting something, a chorus of voices arose in me.
This excessive internal considering is something I have to face in many life situations but this forum makes it screaming.
I think what keeps me back, for the most part, is the fear of exposing myself.
It's been a year that I'm trying to allow myself speaking out without fears of confrontation.
That's not always easy when for the most of my life I've been struggling to be always nice to become the one that everybody loves.
Even at the cost of loosing or suppressing pieces of me.
That's my hypocrisy.
I think I'm also afraid about exposing my ignorance at the cost of the primped self image which I mostly present in the everyday life.
Thanks a lot for this tread, it's a real kick like most of the posts here.
I really hope, one day I can contribute Moore to the growth of this network.
 
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