Cancer: causes and cures

[Chris]

Re: Breast Cancer Treatment?

Thankyou Psyche, regarding the Soursop fruit, there's also a comment by Sunlight,

This article was really fun to read! However It is difficult to find the information regarding the research done by Purdue University (1997), and the National Cancer Institute (1976) because it is claimed that the studies were never published in conclusion that the anti-carcinogenic properties could not be synthesized and patented. So the claim of those studies even being done goes by as hearsay, replicated without citation in numerous repostings of this article's source. I went digging to find some more credible sources on the matter and found these (below) to help solidify the claims. the Livestrong article citing even more helpful sources afterward. Hope this helps! Rock On, Nature!

1) Livestrong.com:
http://www.livestrong.com/article/456818-properties-and-benefits-of-graviola/
2) ACS publication:
http://pubs.acs.org/doi/abs/10.1021/jf9018239

Just thought i should this as well. Sugar intake should be reduced, point taken.

Well, yes that is a very difficult question to answer Laura. I don't think I've seen people look at cancer in that light. It is a scary thought. If the body wants to self-destruct, finding the source of the problem might just seem to be too tall an order. These things do require a very open mind in order to find an answer. Will try to get my hands on a copy of the book.

 

[clearmiddle]

Re: Breast Cancer Treatment?

High carbs seem to be high on many authors' lists of what causes cancer.

 

[SeekinTruth]

Re: Breast Cancer Treatment?

High carbs seem to be high on many authors' lists of what causes cancer.

Cancer cells love sugar and they can only metabolize sugar. So very low to no carb diets would starve cancer cells. Couldn't a true Primal/Paleo diet reset the damaged DNA so that the body doesn't want to self destruct once the DNA is repaired and epigenetically optimized? Couldn't this be possible in at least some cases?

 

[wisrnow]

Re: Breast Cancer Treatment?

Coincidentally (or not!), I have been researching alternate cancer treatments for the past few months. This was in response to my aunt being diagnosed with inflammatory breast cancer, a particularly fast-growing type.

Unfortunately, she is not open to alternatives and is now in rapid decline from increasingly severe chemo and radiation treatments.

So I copy the best of what I have found and learned here in hopes that others may benefit.

I should also add that I know my aunt has had severe anger issues and emotional turmoil for many years, and this has no doubt played a significant role in her disease. IMHO these issues must be addressed as well as the physical aspects for a successful and lasting cure.


General interest

Overview of causes and treatment modalities from Healing Pathways Medical Center in Scottsdale, AZ
_http://www.healingpathwaysmedical.com/cancer-treatment.html (text)
_http://www.healingpathwaysmedical.com/docs/CancerBreastCancer.pdf (slides)

Video testimonials from Late Stage Survivors and Treatments
_http://latestagecancer.magnify.net/

93-minute video: Cancer-The Forbidden Cures
_http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gWLrfNJICeM

Book: Defeat Cancer: 15 Doctors of Integrative Medicine Tell You How
_http://cancerbooksource.com/defeat-cancer-book/

Cancer is curable NOW – Video webinar with Dr. Garry Gordon
_http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tk2fq20JeRg


Proven DIY cure for breast and skin cancer (including melanoma)

80-minute video: Panacea Black Salve Production
_http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQO1Hzg8qcQ

97-minute DVD (not free but highly recommended):
_http://www.oneanswertocancermovie.com/index.htm

Black Salve success stories
_http://www.adrianjonesnaturopath.com/success_stories.htm

Centreforce Black Salve User Instructions
_http://health.centreforce.com/health/cansinstruct.html

Sources for Black Salve:
_http://www.herbhealers.com/store/salves-and-tonics
_http://bestonearthproducts.com/products.php?cat=8


Hyperthermia Holistic Breast Cancer Treatment

_http://vci.org/breastcancer.htm

Hyperthermia Inflammatory Breast Cancer Treatment
_http://vci.org/inflammatory_breast_cancer_treatment/inflammatorybreastcancer_treatment.htm

Video testimonials of breast cancer survivors using hyperthermia
_http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejiPozFL1Sw&feature=player_embedded
_http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejiPozFL1Sw&feature=player_embedded


Alternative cancer treatment clinics

Dr. Thomas Lodi - Alternative & Natural Cancer Treatments in Mesa, AZ
_http://www.anoasisofhealing.com/

Short videos on holistic cancer healing with Dr. Thomas Lodi
_http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XlPSqZ4Xg-E
_http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7KK-2mvLanA

Gerson clinic in Tijuana, Mexico
_http://gerson.org/gerpress/the-gerson-therapy/

Cured of Inflammatory breast cancer with Gerson therapy
_http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_6818/is_3_23/ai_n31198851

80-minute movie on the Gerson Therapy: Dying To Have Known
_http://www.snagfilms.com/films/title/dying_to_have_known

Note: The above two clinics emphasize a raw, vegan diet. This is appropriate for people of a certain metabolic type (sympathetic dominant) who are prone to solid tumors of the breast, lungs, stomach, pancreas, colon, liver, prostate, uterus and ovaries. It may not be appropriate for parasympathetic dominant types who tend to get immunological cancers like leukemia, lymphoma, myeloma and sarcomas. This information was determined by Dr. William Donald Kelley, now deceased, who used a metabolic typing system to determine the appropriate healing diet, which may range from a vegan diet to a largely animal products centered diet.

Dr. William Donald Kelley’s Metabolic Typing System:
_http://www.drkelley.info/?page_id=47

One Answer to Cancer by Dr. William Donald Kelley
_http://www.whale.to/a/kelley1.html

More on the suppression of Dr. Kelley’s work and why Steve McQueen died (it wasn’t from cancer)
_http://www.whale.to/cancer/kelley/app3.html

Introduction to Dr. Kelley’s work by Dr. Nicholas Gonzalez
_http://educate-yourself.org/cancer/gonzalexlectureondrkelly1990.shtml

Dr. Nicholas Gonzalez treatment program (clinic in New York City)
_http://www.dr-gonzalez.com/treatment.htm

Dr. Nicholas Gonzalez on alternative cancer treaments
_http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2011/04/23/dr-nicholas-gonzalez-on-alternative-cancer-treatments.aspx

Issels clinic in Tijuana, Mexico
_http://www.issels.com/FAQs.aspx

Cured of inflammatory breast cancer by Issels
http://www.issels.com/testimonials.aspx#LD060606

Dr. Dan Rogers’ Baja Health & Wellness Center in Tijuana, Mexico (combines the best of Gerson and Issels plus additional protocols)
_http://www.gersonplus.com/about.htm

Dr. Stanislaw Burzynski in Houston, Texas
_http://www.burzynskiclinic.com/

2-hr video of Burzynski cancer cure and persecution by the FDA
_http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0zBBfN5mQa8

edit: mod disabled links as quite a few promote a raw vegan/vegetarian diet.

 

[clearmiddle]

Re: Breast Cancer Treatment?

...I should also add that I know my aunt has had severe anger issues and emotional turmoil for many years, and this has no doubt played a significant role in her disease. IMHO these issues must be addressed as well as the physical aspects for a successful and lasting cure.

General interest

Overview of causes and treatment modalities from Healing Pathways Medical Center in Scottsdale, AZ
_http://www.healingpathwaysmedical.com/cancer-treatment.html (text)
...
edit: mod disabled links as quite a few promote a raw vegan diet.

I was curious as to what causes would be highlighted in your first link, and it is a good list as far as it goes. Heavy metals, pesticides, and other industrial chemicals are a large part of the problem. For some people emotional factors may play a role as well, although I don't know of any evidence that that would be likely to be the sole cause. Emotional problems can interfere with the immune system doing its job after exposure has occurred.

What is missing is the role of excessive dietary carbohydrate intake, and of "industrial food." These are issues that everyone can do something about, preventively, along with taking steps to reduce exposure to toxic materials.

Knowing what I know, if I were fighting cancer today (I am not -- I am a 5-year survivor) I would be very afraid of any would-be treatment program that recommended a vegetarian or vegan diet, and that lacked awareness of the dietary issues. It might work for some people, but then some people would recover on their own, especially if not subjected to standard medical treatments.

 

[clearmiddle]

Re: Breast Cancer Treatment?

Interesting. The second link includes this:

Cancer and Sugar
• Cancer cells can feed on simple sugars.
• Cancer cells cannot utilize fats or proteins for energy easily
• A diet low in simple sugars is very important.
• No refined sugars, fructose, foods high in sugar content or fruits
• Artificial sweeteners such as Aspartame, Saccharine and chlorinated sweeteners
are not a substitute! These flavoring agents may be carcinogenic.
• Safe alternatives are stevia or stevione (preferred), Isomalt

and also this

High Fiber Diet
• A high fiber diet is important to prevent constipation, and cleanse the
gastrointestinal tract of toxins.
• Good sources are low-sugar cereals, brown rice and organic, whole grain pasta
• Plenty of fluids are also important to wash out toxins produced from growing
and/or dying cancer cells.
• Avoid fatty, greasy or deep-fried foods, all of which have been associated with
accelerated growth of some cancers and are difficult to digest.

Having personally experienced some of the damage that a high-fiber diet can cause, this makes me doubt their sanity. It's anything but "cleansing," a notion which has been "accepted" but which is not scientifically based.

Whole grain pasta??? Insane. Whole grains (particularly wheat) can be loaded with anti-nutrient plant defenses, some of which seem to have the ability to promote cancer. They can be a terrible insult to a body fighting cancer, mounting attacks of their own on many fronts. And do not these folks realize that the starch in these foods converts to the sugar that they just got through saying you should avoid?

 

[SeekinTruth]

Re: Breast Cancer Treatment?

I agree, Megan. Particularly this:

Whole grain pasta??? Insane. Whole grains (particularly wheat) can be loaded with anti-nutrient plant defenses, some of which seem to have the ability to promote cancer. They can be a terrible insult to a body fighting cancer, mounting attacks of their own on many fronts. And do not these folks realize that the starch in these foods converts to the sugar that they just got through saying you should avoid?

Whole wheat has even a higher glycemic index than table sugar (sucrose -- combo of glucose and fructose).

 

[wisrnow]

Re: Breast Cancer Treatment?

Knowing what I know, if I were fighting cancer today (I am not -- I am a 5-year survivor) I would be very afraid of any would-be treatment program that recommended a vegetarian or vegan diet, and that lacked awareness of the dietary issues. It might work for some people, but then some people would recover on their own, especially if not subjected to standard medical treatments.

In general, meats/fats are considered to be "building" foods while certain vegetables and fruits, especially when juiced, are considered to be "cleansing" (or detoxifying) foods. That is why many successful cancer treatment protocols, particularly for solid tumor cancers as I pointed out, emphasize plant foods only, as well as other detox protocols such as coffee enemas, which allow the body to go into "detox" mode and purge the toxins which helped cause the cancer. Once that has been accomplished, depending on one's metabolic type, it may be appropriate to return to eating animal foods.

There are many testimonials of people becoming free of cancer long term (>5 years) by using this type of diet. However, I have not been able to find any cancer survivor testimonials from people who adopted an animal food protocol. If they are out there, I would like to know more about them, being a red meat carnivore metabolic type myself.

Megan, would you mind telling us what kind of diet and protocols you used to overcome your cancer?

 

[clearmiddle]

Re: Breast Cancer Treatment?

I saw your question, but i am at a conference this week, replying from my iPhone. I don't know when I will be able to sit down and answer.

 

[clearmiddle]

Re: Breast Cancer Treatment?

...In general, meats/fats are considered to be "building" foods while certain vegetables and fruits, especially when juiced, are considered to be "cleansing" (or detoxifying) foods. That is why many successful cancer treatment protocols, particularly for solid tumor cancers as I pointed out, emphasize plant foods only, as well as other detox protocols such as coffee enemas, which allow the body to go into "detox" mode and purge the toxins which helped cause the cancer. Once that has been accomplished, depending on one's metabolic type, it may be appropriate to return to eating animal foods.

One ought to ask, what does "is considered" mean, and to enquire, "successful as measured by what?" My own lifetime efforts to improve my health (I did not start out well) have been greatly hampered by misinformation. In my earlier days, because of being brought up to not trust doctors, my misinformation came from "alternative" sources. More recently I began to "trust the system" and I suffered even more from the misinformation that it disseminates. No wonder people give up and just continue to do what they were doing.

There are many testimonials of people becoming free of cancer long term (>5 years) by using this type of diet. However, I have not been able to find any cancer survivor testimonials from people who adopted an animal food protocol. If they are out there, I would like to know more about them, being a red meat carnivore metabolic type myself.

Megan, would you mind telling us what kind of diet and protocols you used to overcome your cancer?

Maybe the rest of the survivors didn't feel the need to write "testimonials." I never wrote one. And the other survivors I have known did not either, nor did they generally follow special protocols with regard to food.

I had learned about the "standard American diet" and adjusted my eating habits over 10 years before I was diagnosed with cancer, avoiding the worst of the junk/fast/processed food that so many people consume. I "went organic" a couple of years afterward, and started making major dietary adjustments a couple of years after that. I about killed myself "trying to get enough fiber" before I realized what was going on there (and I am not exaggerating).

I followed standard medical advice and treatment for the cancer, and I remain free of it nearly 5 years after surgery to remove the tumor. And that's all I care to say about it.

 

[wisrnow]

Re: Breast Cancer Treatment?

I about killed myself "trying to get enough fiber" before I realized what was going on there (and I am not exaggerating).

I followed standard medical advice and treatment for the cancer, and I remain free of it nearly 5 years after surgery to remove the tumor. And that's all I care to say about it.

Megan, I certainly agree with your assessment of the dangers of eating fiber. Humans are not herbivores like cows and deer and do not produce the enzymes necessary to digest vegetable fiber. Personally, I eat only a small amount of easy to chew leafy greens, such as lettuce and bok choy. Most all of the alternative cancer protocols I linked to recommend only JUICED vegetables for that very reason. Also, Brian Peskin, whose work I linked to, has some interesting arguments that fiber actually CAUSES colon cancer, rather than vice versa.

I also agree with your previous critique of the diet recommended in my first link. I admit I didn't pay much attention to that aspect of their program. It was the slides describing the alternative (non-diet) protocols in my second link which I felt were the most useful on that site. The clinics I listed further down do not employ high-fiber diets AFAIK, emphasizing juices instead.

I'm glad that you remain cancer-free after 5 years. However, it is important to realize that a tumor is merely a symptom, and simply cutting it out does not address the underlying cause of the cancer, as Laura pointed out previously in this thread. Neither do chemo or radiation or many of the alternative treatments. Preventing a recurrence usually involves lifestyle changes, such as avoiding toxin exposures and providing the body the appropriate inputs (primarily clean, whole ancestral foods) needed for its particular metabolism. Understanding metabolic typing can be very helpful in this regard (see my links to Dr. Kelley's work for more on that).

It frequently also involves inner psychological work to identify and remove toxic thinking and unhealthy attitudes, which can often result from "victimization" programming which most all of us get at an early age in this modern/pathological cultural environment.

Being a member of this forum, I feel sure you are already aware of most of this, and I wish you continued good health on your journey! :)

 

[truth seeker]

Re: Breast Cancer Treatment?

Hi wisrnow,

You seem to be somewhat familiar with this forum - at least as far as diet is concerned which is quite unusual for newbies. I was wondering if you've had another account here in the past?

 

[wisrnow]

Re: Breast Cancer Treatment?

Yes. I learned much about this forum in that previous incarnation. That's why I'm "wisrnow." :)

 

[truth seeker]

Re: Breast Cancer Treatment?

Yes. I learned much about this forum in that previous incarnation. That's why I'm "wisrnow." :)

Members aren't allowed to have two accounts. What was the moniker on your last account and why didn't you feel it was appropriate to use that one upon returning?

 

[wisrnow]

Re: Breast Cancer Treatment?

The previous one could not return since it was banned. I learned my "lesson" and I'm "wisrnow." That is all I care to say about the matter.