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[Bluefyre]

A cup of green tea with lemon is brewing at the moment!

 

[Laurs]

A cup of green tea with lemon is brewing at the moment!

Good job, Bluefyre! Honey in the tea also seems to be good. Take good care of Turgon, hope he feels better soon and see you next week!

 

[Breo]

Hello everyone, I've got the flu/fever. I was hoping I'd be well enough by now to host but I'm still bedridden so today's workshop is postponed until next week. Have a good weekend and see you next Sunday.

Have a restful weekend, Turgon! All the best

 

[Saki]

Hello everyone, I've got the flu/fever. I was hoping I'd be well enough by now to host but I'm still bedridden so today's workshop is postponed until next week. Have a good weekend and see you next Sunday.

Here's hoping you are well soon.

 

[polly]

Raise a collective tea cup in flu recovery solidarity.
Get well and be well... looking forward to seeing all y'all soon.

 

[msasa79]

Well, the C's said or suggested to give to the lie what it asks for, that is the truth, so in that spirit comes the following comment.

These non-local abilities that transcend space/time must have some basis in some deeper underlying reality--perhaps a field and/or dimension full of information.

• Fields are a space that has the same value for each point in space and time. Any change in one, changes all, implying superluminal (faster-than-light) effects.

The quoted definition of a field from ECHCC Ch 39 is highly misleading if not outright incorrect. Saying that a field has the same value (or magnitude or direction) for each point in space and time is valid only for one special kind of a field, the constant one. And if a field is constant then there are no changes in and of it, because if it were any changes it would not be called a constant field, which automatically means that the second (bolded) quoted sentence is not true, regardless of the type of the field we're talking about.

Here's the whole passage from ECHCC Ch 39 on page 300 introducing the term "field" which makes these things even clearer:

A field is a space that has the same value for each point in space and time. Thus a field is non-local: properties are established and changed instantaneously for all the points covered by the field. In this sense, fields contradict Einstein’s postulate according to which light speed is the maximum possible speed. If a change occurring in a field affects all its points at the same time, some sort of superluminal (faster-than-light) process must be occurring.

This 'error' about the definition of a field is evident even from the Ch 39 itself, where the image caption of Fig. 236 on page 300, says:

Figure 236: The magnitude (brightness) and direction (hue) of an electric field generated by two oppositely charged particles.

directly implying, from the different colors and their shades on the image, the true nature of an electric field, that is it has different values (of its magnitude and direction) in or for different points in space (and time if we consider charges that change their position in time).

What a field has the same in or for every point in space and time is its 'character', that is a number (but not necessarily the same number) for a scalar field like temperature field in a room for example, or a vector (but not necessarily the same vector) if a field is a vector field like electric field in Fig. 236 or magnetic field or wind (strength and direction) field in some geographic region for example.

For more info about fields in science and physics in general there're Wikipedia and Britannica, while in mathematics (wiki link) a field represents a type of "fundamental algebraic structure", that is:

A field is any set of elements that satisfies the field axioms for both addition and multiplication and is a commutative division algebra.

Here's also a link to University of California Davis' biology major course in General Physics, where it says:

The idea of a field is rooted in the concept that there is some physical quantity that has a value “everywhere". The value can either change from location to location or can stay the same. Both fields that vary in space and fields that are constant in (regions of) space are important. A field can vary in time as well as space, so any field that we discuss is a function of both position and time.

And in the last session with the C's we also saw from Ark's questions that the term "Information Field" is not really suitable or adequate.

(Ark) Okay, I expected that but now question is, I am thinking: I use the term information field, but 'field' is something that is, when I say temperature field, it means temperature here, temperature there, and so on. Electromagnetic field, it's in space. But I don't think that 'information field' is a good term. It's like 'information' what - space? And what is it, how to describe it, where this information is, what kind of an animal it is?

A: Consciousness of God for lack of a precise term.

Q: (Joe) Now Arky you have to ask the question: Where is consciousness of God - or anybody?

(Chu) And why can't it be a field?

(Ark) Because it has nothing to do with space. It's not located to space.

(L) Right. A field is in space.

(Ark) It has to have something to do with space. Okay? Now, but consciousness, what is it? I don't know. I know the meaning of the word, but there are thousands of views about what consciousness is. Can you kind of make it closer for a physicist?

A: This is unfortunately, where words break down.

Q: (Ark) Okay? Words break down. Maybe mathematical formulas will help?

A: Yes

Q: (Ark) You suggest some part of mathematics. Can you?

A: Pranalytical.

 

[Arwenn]

In Chapter 4 we had discussed that the dissidents interviewed by Dreher stress that the law is not a reliable refuge: if the government is determined to remove someone, they will find a way by destroying one’s reputation or manufacturing a crime from the data it has captured. (p 82-83)

This post by Jones discusses an article about Assange's recent testimony at a Committee on Legal Affairs and Human Rights meeting. Picking out highlights from the article & what Assange says about govt. & the law:

Assange described a persistent, powerful, and often successful effort to direct government to act against the liberty and well-being of the people. This, he indicates, supported the United States government taking action against Assange that appeared barred by the First Amendment of the US Constitution and judges in Britain giving great deference to the US effort to seek Assange’s extradition to the US.

Regarding the action of the US government against him, Assange stated:

We performed a legal analysis to understand what the abilities and limitations were within Europe for publishing documents from a number of different countries, including the United States. We understood that, in theory, Article 10 should protect journalists in Europe...My naivete was believing in the law. When push comes to shove, laws are just pieces of paper and they can be reinterpreted for political expediency. They are the rules made by the ruling class more broadly, and, if those rules don’t suite what it wants to do, it reinterprets them or, hopefully, changes them, which is clearer.

Later in the Q and A period, Assange returned to discussing this concerning aspect of law, providing this warning: “I think we should understand a bigger picture, which is that, whenever we make a law, we create a tool that self-interested bureaucrats, companies, and the worst elements of the security state will use and will expand the interpretation in order to achieve control over others...Coming out of a period of silence, he is again providing great educational benefit to people by explaining ways in which agents of government enforcement work to ensure that supposed legal protections are swept aside when those legal protections sufficiently challenge entrenched interests.

Edit: spelling

 

[Saki]

Edgar Cayce's Thought for the Day October 4, 2024

"Rather than the stars ruling life, life should rule the stars - for humanity was created a little bit higher than all the rest of the whole universe, and is capable of harnessing, directing, enforcing, the laws of the universe."

 

[Pecha]

What I've been finding that's particularly missing or lacking in the book is the proper treatment and inclusion of magnetism in the overall picture portrayed there. I can guess that due to the specific (educational) background and the influence of the Electric Universe model, the focus was placed on the electric component of the electromagnetic phenomena in question. But also, since the glaring absence of something can be interpreted as a sort of a signal or a message, the intuition's been nagging me that the 'omission' did not occur by pure chance or sort of a neglect alone. Seeing from the excellent @Pecha's weekly workshop summaries that the group is about to finish discussing ECHCC, I'll be looking forward to join you for these last few meetups or maybe even the very last one about this book.

I'm not sure what you're implying here, can you expound on this part?

I will say that research done alone, even in small groups is not enough to paint the whole picture, and that's why the networking is important. While it's fine and dandy to highlight these discrepencies, maybe adding a bit of your creative energy to it rather than only picking it apart would encourage others to also take part in this process and reply. It's clear you have a lot that you can add, but I will leave it to ya in that regard.

There are some things that some of us do think differently on, like the chemtrail/airplane aerosols stance of the book, and we as a group added our own research and observations to it--it's one example that we've done during our discussions of the book that I can think of.

 

[msasa79]

I'm not sure what you're implying here, can you expound on this part?

On more than on one occasion while going through the content of the ECHCC book I've had an impression that things would have been much more encompassing and hypotheses much more sound and grounded if magnetism in general and magnetic contributions in particular were not treated as a byproducts or second order phenomena or even as a nuisance to dominant electric and electricity driven paradigms. In overall it created a strong impression that it was done sort of deliberately and not by accident, to sort of encourage the readers after their application of critical thinking to do research on their own and connect the dots while reading between the lines into more comprehensive overall picture, that is to notice also the absence and/or sort of erroneous stuff here and there, in contrast to simple and direct spoon-feeding of the information, that is to invest also their energy in a balancing act, otherwise the information provided remained just information and had not been converted to real knowledge. Something in the manner of that saying, for those with eyes to see and ears to hear, with continuation in Mark 4:11-13. Laura went into much more details and explanation about that notion in her Commentaries on FPTM book in The Secret of the Kingdom of God YT video.

I will say that research done alone, even in small groups is not enough to paint the whole picture, and that's why the networking is important. While it's fine and dandy to highlight these discrepencies, maybe adding a bit of your creative energy to it rather than only picking it apart would encourage others to also take part in this process and reply. It's clear you have a lot that you can add, but I will leave it to ya in that regard.

Obviously I was wrongly thinking that I have been adding quite a fair bit of creativity and energy to the table, especially in concert with the things related to the content of the ECHCC book, although it would sometimes start with the application of negative part of intellectual center's methods, which have been apparently perceived as picking things apart, but unfortunately it seems that the "decomposition" was the only thing that got across.

Some examples that apparently lulled me into this kind of wrong thinking are more than dozen posts in the The Earth Just Started Spinning Faster than Ever Before and Scientists Don’t Know Why thread, starting from perhaps this post; basically all the recent post in this thread, starting from maybe this one; and then the post a year or so ago about the Earth and the Sun apparently not being homo polar motors, an example about "interconnection of matter-energy-information on atomic inorganic scale/level" and maybe this post in the Sol (Sun) and its phenomena thread that's in direct relation to recent posts here about how the Sun might influence the jet streams' behavior.

There are some things that some of us do think differently on, like the chemtrail/airplane aerosols stance of the book, and we as a group added our own research and observations to it--it's one example that we've done during our discussions of the book that I can think of.

Well, things that were pointed out in posts in question, were mainly not just things that I think or thought differently than what was expressed in the ECHCC book, but the things that after some digging, that is some research, have been shown to not correspond to or show disagreement with the observations, that is things that seemed to be in misalignment with reality, or on the other hand things that were simply and plainly incorrect like that erroneous definition of the term 'field' presented in my previous post in this thread. FWIW.

Besides, I did start the recent series of the posts here with a question 9 days ago:

Guys at the CRW Am-EU, reading and discussing ECHCC, and @Niall, considering the remarks made during recent NewsReal shows, how do you "reconcile" the observed weather phenomena this summer and late spring in Europe and Northern Africa for example, namely apparently meandering northern polar jet stream, with all the snow and rain and flooding we saw recently and that Omega configuration (jet stream blockage) a while ago for example, together with evidently extreme levels of solar activity (if sun spots numbers and solar flares and CMEs are considered as a measure of its activity) in the same time period (SOTT article and tweet below),

https://twitter.com/x/status/1830322469364015507

with what was written in the ECHCC Ch 28 about the mechanism behind the jet stream "behavior"?

Or more specifically, with quoted passages from ECHCC Ch 28 on pages 188 and 190, which seem to be in contradiction to observations?

and the only reply there was seemed to be not really open for a constructive discussion:

I think that the other factor is approaching Twin Sun and the gang.
So, never mind that the sun is active, there is another player(s) in the game that "takes" most of the Sun´s electronic charge. Maybe overall nett of the solar wind is still too low, never mind that the Sun is active; like it is described in Chapter 17. "The grounding of the Sun".

On top of all that, we have a comet in the sky for about a week or so now, that also interacts with Earth.

Well, I might have also been a bit triggered with that doubling of "never mind" phrase which came across in a bit of a dismissive tone, so my perception of that reply could have been colored and biased towards negative reception, but I still see it as without a desire to openly discuss and share information there even now, almost 9 days later while being in a fairly emotionally calm state.

So, what would you suggest I did and do differently when sharing the info I've been presenting in the relevant posts to this topic so far?

 

[Pecha]

Well, I might have also been a bit triggered with that doubling of "never mind" phrase which came across in a bit of a dismissive tone, so my perception of that reply could have been colored and biased towards negative reception, but I still see it as without a desire to openly discuss and share information there even now, almost 9 days later while being in a fairly emotionally calm state.

So, what would you suggest I did and do differently when sharing the info I've been presenting in the relevant posts to this topic so far?

In these situations, I'd think less of myself and look to focus on elucidating truths, sharing info, and adding to the discussion (not saying you aren't)--without any care for the self as it tends to suppress some negative thinking.

Maybe others can speak to this, but some of this can fly over my head regarding the concepts in this book, and frankly, I don't have too much to add, and not enough time to research more. Your questions are entirely valid, and you bring up good points for discussion and am not discounting them.

Look, you got a sharp mind and the ego can sometimes take over. Let's lighten up a bit and let it flow! Maybe some balance, like when excising certain parts of the book, to also fill in the hole with our own experiences, learnings, etc. to have a chance at something more accurate.

 

[Arwenn]

Am-Eu group, if y’all are still reading Pierre and Laura's Earth Changes and the Human-Cosmic Connection, I wanted to suggest the series of 12 articles written by Randall Carlson on the Cosmic connection with the Grail mysteries.

It’s a very interesting series of articles, even to the point of analysing certain words & their etymology & how that relates to cometary bombardment. For example,
*Disaster meaning- a sudden calamitous event leading to great destruction
From Greek, Dis=apart, opposite, deprive, expel. Aster=Astro or star

*Catastrophe meaning- an extreme tragic event leading to total ruin
Cata from Greek kata- down. Astro = star. Strophe in Greek means turning or whirling
(so a total ruin or a violent change related to a star whirling down)

Below is a synopsis of Sangreal, The Holy Grail:recovering the Cosmic Science of Antiquity series of articles:
Article 1- exobiology, panspermia, appearance of the Grail mysteries in the South of France c 1180 AD (along with Gothic cathedrals, Cathars, troubadours etc)
Article 2- Grail mythos is a cryptogram, the inextricable bond between the stars and man’s destiny
Article 3- the Green Language, Alchemy
Article 4- More on the Grail mysticism, Holy Grail, Holy Blood
Article 5- Revelations Ch 8 describes onset of the Apocalypse which sounds like cometary bombardment, echoes of this in Mahabharata & Chinese mythology
Article 6- dragons representing comets in mythology, red rain falling in Sri Lanka in 2001 & 2012 containing organic cells but without DNA
Article 7- symbolism of the lance, King Arthur & the dual role of the Grail in provoking destruction but thereby also the means of restoration
Article 8- the 5 stages in the life cycle of comets
Article 9- the correlation of the Grail mythos to these 5 stages, and the evolutionary changes to Earth & humans from this fusion of celestial & terrestrial master within the crater
Article 10- etymology, effects of large impacts to Earth, rare Platinum Group Metals (PGMs) & their unique oroperties
Article 11- more of the effects of PGMs. Palladium named after asteroid Pallas, Iridium crystal’s effects on pituitary gland, Ruthenium (named after Russia) which when bonded to ribose in DNA backbone, acts as a superconductor
Article 12- Megalithic sites & electrical conductivity, Grail mythos is encoded science of planetary & individual regeneration devoted to the restoration of terrestrial nature in the wake of cosmic catastrophe.

It is a fascinating read, along with Laura’s series of articles on the Greek philosophers & her article on Supernovae: Vehicle of Ascension..

 

[Arwenn]

Hi everyone,
Here’s the meeting ID for the Au-Asia-Am meeting. We will start in 50 minutes.

Join our Cloud HD Video Meeting
Meeting ID: 835 8687 7275
Passcode: 4nuFri

See you soon!

 

[KTC]

Hi everyone,
Here’s the meeting ID for the Au-Asia-Am meeting. We will start in 50 minutes.

Join our Cloud HD Video Meeting
Meeting ID: 835 8687 7275
Passcode: 4nuFri

See you soon!

I’m an apology. I’ve got a headache so don’t wanna be in front of the computer tonight

 

[Arwenn]

Hi everyone,

Here are the links for the recent Aus-Asia-Am group discussion on Live Not by Lies: A Manual for Christian Dissidents by Rod Dreher.

Here's the video of the last meeting
The audio
And the folder
And the slide show

We will read Chapter 7 of Live Not by Lies: A Manual for Christian Dissidents for our next workshop on Saturday at 7 pm Sydney AEDST time (GMT+11).

See you all then!

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Below are the links to what we discussed:

Harrison Koehli's articles exploring Dr. Mitchell’s thesis on Persistent Predatory Personality which can be found here, here, here and here.
New concept Audi SUV with attached drones
College students all want socialism but not when it affects them personally
A good summary of hard (Orwell) vs soft (Huxley) totalitarianism:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1842779470635110724

Art where it may not even be seen- hidden images on the sides of old books
Tucker Carlson interviews Xi van Fleet about her experiences during the Chinese cultural revolution under Mao, and similarities to the US now


Edit: Added
For those who haven’t seen it, here’s the MindMatters show of the interview with Dr Karen Mitchell.