Coronavirus Pandemic: Apocalypse Now! Or exaggerated scare story?

[Joan]

I am aware that this has been posted twice on this thread, apologies, I can't remember who posted this article from Children's Health Defense.

Gov. Newsom Injured by Moderna Booster Shot, Source Tells The Defender

A source close to California Gov. Gavin Newsom today told The Defender the governor experienced an adverse reaction to the Moderna COVID vaccine he received Oct. 27, the last day he was seen in public.

childrenshealthdefense.org

I would like to add some of my thoughts regarding the article:

A source close to California Gov. Gavin Newsom today told The Defender the governor experienced an adverse reaction to the Moderna COVID vaccine he received Oct. 27.

The source, who asked not to be identified, said Newsom’s symptoms were similar to those associated with Guillain–Barré syndrome (GBS), a known side effect of many vaccines.

If true, regardless of a persons soci-political ideology. This is tragic, hopefully, it may be transient and he will recover somewhat. But it also brings into question, the term most often on this forum "Knowledge Protects" and highlights why political leaders because of political ideology, the ego driven to seek power and just plain ignorance. Are they really any different from the rest of humanity that have succumbed to this mass psychosis we living at this time. Maybe, it is that there is something within the soul makeup of a person, that has the ability to inwardly on a soul level, discern truth from lies.

This comment from RFK Jr. from the article

“prays for Newsom’s family” and wishes him a quick recovery.

Kennedy added:

“However, if it’s true the governor has suffered debilitating neurological injuries following vaccination, it raises grave ethical questions about his seemingly dishonest efforts to conceal his injuries while implementing aggressive policies to force the children and working people of California to endure similar risks.”

On another note I came across this interesting video from Paul Joseph Watson, regarding the Social Engineering through TV adverts, and how it manipulates the the beliefs and thoughts of those that become entranced into the current ideologies being pushed today to create a "Great Reset".

 

[SOTTREADER]

If true, regardless of a persons soci-political ideology.

Surely it's more than this? The man's decisions is causing god-knows how many out there to suffer untold adverse effects and whilst I don't think he's missing because of ADE I wouldn't necessarily pray for his quick recovery if he indeed did meet such an unfortunate turn of events. Is that bad?

If it was just a matter of politics with no real consequences then I'd for sure pray for his wellbeing.

 

[Joan]

So how is this any different, from the vast majority of people at this time, that have been socially programmed to believe, and encourage others to "Get the Jab" it is for the greater good of humanity, Because a person is ignorant and lacks knowledge, do we forget our human values of empathy.

 

[Joe]

Macron tonite on the boob tube addressing the peasants:

French aged 65+ now need BOOSTERS to keep Covid pass

“Being free, in a nation like France implies responsibility and solidarity,” Macron said, according to French media, urging the 10 million or so citizens who haven’t had the jab yet to do so. “Vaccinate yourself to protect yourselves. Vaccinate yourselves to be able to live normally.”

In short, more fear-based manipulation designed to get people to get vaxxed.

 

[stellar]

In the context of what was being discussed, the implication was that you were dismissing Ian McKay's valid and truthful article.

The only thing I discussed was my scepticism of the repetitive nonsense that comes out 'down under'. I did not specify anyone in particular. It sounds like you read into that something that I did't mention.

I don't understand why it was your intention to make your post provocative. To me it sounded like you were frustrated and eager to take it out on someone. You may as well have told everyone to shut up because they don't know what they are talking about, and you do.

Many of us here may not be very well versed in many technical subjects, so we post to network what we have found in hope that it may be relevant or helpful or disputed factually. It is probably not posted to annoy you personally.

You came across as rather high and mighty and provocative and I don't see that it was really warranted. There may be more considerate ways to express what you said and I wish you had given those a go.

 

[XPan]

Because the commenter is clearly not making an effort to understand, or is intentionally trying to obfuscate.


There is no "issue". The PCR test has been around since the early 80's. The reason it was so quickly prepared was due to it being a tried and tested process for detecting viral DNA. As Ian pointed out, technology has advanced to the point now where viruses can have their DNA completely sequenced before a PCR test is formulated for mass usage.


As stated so well by the C's, sometimes sitting on the fence makes you the perfect target for snipers.


No, we don't need to "be careful" with it at all. It's obvious BS for those with eyes to see, and there's enough information to review as is without undiscerning fruitloops with a solipsism fetish pushing that nonsense. Every time I check this thread I'm amazed by the amount of garbage that's given air. I think it's about time we locked it and require any extra posts to have moderator approval before being added. Some people here need a reality check by the looks of things.


Congratulations on being successfully vectored into throwing out the baby with the bathwater.

PCR test for DNA. Yes.

It is from what I understand an excellent tool and should never exceed 16 circles for example for proof in crime cases. Any higher cycle is considered to be garbage in courts.

So yes. For DNA it is an excellent tool for whatever contains DNA including DNA viruses.

But the SARS-CoV-2 virus ain’t DNA. It is a RNA virus. And for all RNA the PCR test is a worthless unstable test. There is also no established standard between labs. And it can show you whatever you want it to show you…

To be honest, I do not fully understand your tone, Ryan. We all need Realty checks from time to time - sure - yet the funky SARS-CoV business has several unwritten chapters left to be written. And there will be surprises, too.

 

[Vulcan59]

FWIW, the Therapeutic Goods Administration in Australia is now asking for additional information from Pfizer after BMJ's publication. Wonder if this is for show only?

Whistleblower claims Pfizer falsified data

British Medical Journal alleges issues with a small number of vaccine safety trials.

www.nzherald.co.nz

 

[Joan]

Although, I post a like, does mean I agree, with the poster, it sometimes or merely means, that I have read the post, similar to the emails, we get flooded with in our daily lives, we are flooded with so much information at this time, it like a media tsunami. we need hone up skills of discernment, and critical thinking, and sift though what one can discern, what is truth or what is lies. And that is a life long journey of duicoivery

 

[cope]

Yes, shutting down and censoring this thread is as ironic as it gets with the subject of Covid. Twitter, FB and GOOGLE are doing a masterful job of it.
If anything, I would archive this thread because perhaps in a year or two all the information that was posted here will vanish. This information erasure is already happening on the net while GOOGLE does its fine job of tuning the Search Engine to not find what you want.

BHelmet said: Yeah one issue with this thread Is that it has become a catch-all like the proverbial office water cooler where all manner of gossip is discussed and exchanged. So a little more discernment about what thread to post in and external consideration might indeed be a thing.
That said, the notion of just shutting it down with some level of censorship is... Maybe a bit too ironic.

Although, I post a like, does mean I agree, with the poster, it sometimes or merely means, that I have read the post, similar to the emails, we get flooded with in our daily lives, we are flooded with so much information at this time, it like a media tsunami. we need hone up skills of discernment, and critical thinking, and sift though what one can discern, what is truth or what is lies. And that is a life long journey of discovery

I 'like' when the post brings me something 'extra'. I think i know pretty much everything that is covered or not covered in those 1500 pages. So i post when i encounter something that should but is not yet covered in the thread.
Because the scamdemic is a wordwide operation, it is interesting what happens where first and next. With this thread we get an oversight over the whole thing, and some insight about the decision tree of the cabal. With this knowledge, we gain an unique level of foresight. Whether all the reading costs too much time, is a personal consideration.
That said, to look up something that was mentioned say, around June, could take me, with the crappy internet locally, ..too much time. So a search engine with a possibility of a couple of search terms in one go, would be helpful.

 

[stellar]

Gov. Newsom Injured by Moderna Booster Shot, Source Tells The Defender

A source close to California Gov. Gavin Newsom today told The Defender the governor experienced an adverse reaction to the Moderna COVID vaccine he received Oct. 27, the last day he was seen in public.

childrenshealthdefense.org

I'm taking the report with a pinch of salt as I think the high profile ones get saline injections.

Unless they are problematic to the PTB?

 

[stellar]

with now 303 people in hospital with corona and 36 in ICU...in a country of 6 million people
What is more is that they don't give the raw numbers of who is in hospital, but instead says that amongst the non-vaccinated the number is 15.7 per 100000 versus 4.3 per 100000 amongst vaccinated. Since the number of vaccinated is above 80% this would mean that more vaccinated are in hospital than un-vaccinated.

Denmark has 246 ICU beds per 100.000 or roughly 14760 ICU beds. This means that covid patients take up 0.24%. I encourage all to spare a prayer for Denmark where covid is clearly putting enormous strains on the medical system.

You'd think this would be the logical conclusion but most people don't seem to be interested or able to see those numbers for what they are.
Although they have lightened up some, here in Australia they would give us such numbers, state by state, and not one question from the media about those numbers; just nodding heads.

 

[stellar]

There may be more considerate ways to express what you said and I wish you had given those a go.

IOW:

"For all that ye may ever keep is just what you give away, and that you give away is advice, counsel, manner of life you live yourself. The manner in which you treat your fellow man, your patience, your brotherly love, your kindness, your gentleness. That you give away, that is all that ye may possess in those other realms of consciousness"

“For as we forgive, we are forgiven; as we condemn others, we are ourselves condemned. Thus in patience condemn not, neither find fault; not condoning, not agreeing, but let thine own life so shine that others, seeing thy patience, knowing thy understanding, comprehending thy peace, may take hope.”

 

[Natalija8]

Now 2 weeks later and the Danish government had a corona meeting due to the 'alarming' increase in numbers. The numbers as an article details are indeed 'alarming' with now 303 people in hospital with corona and 36 in ICU...in a country of 6 million people
What is more is that they don't give the raw numbers of who is in hospital, but instead says that amongst the non-vaccinated the number is 15.7 per 100000 versus 4.3 per 100000 amongst vaccinated. Since the number of vaccinated is above 80% this would mean that more vaccinated are in hospital than un-vaccinated.

Denmark has 246 ICU beds per 100.000 or roughly 14760 ICU beds. This means that covid patients take up 0.24%. I encourage all to spare a prayer for Denmark where covid is clearly putting enormous strains on the medical system.
Anyone who seriously believe that there is a medical emergency in Denmark has lost their thinking abilities and probably to a very detrimental point. If ICU capacity was the problem which it isn't, then why not build more ICU as it would clearly be cheaper than pushing for the 3rd jab, which is now being pushed as urgent.

So they have decided to re-introduce the corona pass, make the 3 jab a matter of urgency, re-introduce the mask and massively blame the non-vaccinated. The PM, Mette Frederiksen, made it clear that the blame was lying squarely on 'those who don't play by the rules', aka. the non vaccinated.

It will be interesting to see how this psychological experiment on the Danish population - of first taking freedoms away, then giving some back and now to take those freedoms away again while putting the blame squarely on the non-vaccinated - will play out.

Very interesting indeed, how they manipulate with truth and especially with numbers, although people in modern, western societies tend to rely on their educated knowledge, gained in the process of schooling. Everybody, who finished mandatory basic education, has gone thrue some degree of mathematical training and knowledge and yet, people tend to fall into "freeze state" of common sense, when confronted with fear, which is a mother or base of all the fears and that is fear of death and dying, forgetting about, how dying is only sirtain thing in the state of being alive. In the picture below are the statistics for Serbia on date 10. and 25. oktober of 2020 (left side) in comparing to same dates in 2021 (right side), which include three parameters: number of positive tested, number of people hospitalized, being on respirator (being treated completly wrong, even becoming Remdesivir, evil chemical, which is used in USA for execution) and number of deaths. There is very powerful push against this fake plandemia in Serbia, also among highly educated individuals and they are a nation, known for their stubborn and rebelion mentality, but the majority is just being paralized in this state of fears, of loosing health, loosing well being, jobs, the opurtunities to work and survive. I can understand and it resonates with me, due to my position here in Swiss, where the push to take a jab is also rising, not so obvious and direct, it is more profane and subtile, but in surch for job, one is immediately off league, so I seriously think abouth getting the vax, although I'm very well awared of the fact, that with faith and trust, there is nothing impossible. It is a dirty game of indurance, great opportunity to grow or fall.

 

[Ina]

Unless they are problematic to the PTB?

Perhaps creating a public attention traffic bubble for voter mobilization.

 

[Natalija8]

The only thing I discussed was my scepticism of the repetitive nonsense that comes out 'down under'. I did not specify anyone in particular. It sounds like you read into that something that I did't mention.

I don't understand why it was your intention to make your post provocative. To me it sounded like you were frustrated and eager to take it out on someone. You may as well have told everyone to shut up because they don't know what they are talking about, and you do.

Many of us here may not be very well versed in many technical subjects, so we post to network what we have found in hope that it may be relevant or helpful or disputed factually. It is probably not posted to annoy you personally.

You came across as rather high and mighty and provocative and I don't see that it was really warranted. There may be more considerate ways to express what you said and I wish you had given those a go.

Congratulation on your reply, I completly resonate with it. Have had personal expirience with @Ryan, about my post in thread Psychologie, where I posted interview with dr. Mila Alečković Battaille, very known and aknowledge expert in psychiatry and psychologie, with great understanding of many scientific cathegories and also incredible poliglot, where Ryans response was everything else, from what I would expect on this forum. He didn't even watched the video, not possible, considering the duration of interview and his response, just shot out his judgement and prejudice, labeling dr. M.A.Bataille as not having her own oppinion and denying the existance of Sars-CoV-2. Well, I have my own view on viruses, not exposing it here, exactly because of the risk of such reactions, also I don't have time, to explain my points, so I just keep it to myself, for now. I can only tell, I see and feel a great division on all layers in todays society.