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Coronavirus Pandemic: Apocalypse Now! Or exaggerated scare story?
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Trump, Macron, Gov. DeWine and I believe one other official has referenced war in regards to this coronavirus. I'm not sure what exactly to make of this - intentional bio-warfare?
mbww
Jedi
Nice psyops
I would note that SARS-CoV-1 - not H1n1 is the virus most closely related to Covid-19 aka SARS-CoV-2 coronavirus - scientists agree.
SARS-CoV-1 appeared (and China) and died out in 2002 mainly through isolation and massive cleanup.
Several purported vaccines were developed later, but there were no more cases to test effectively.
SARS-Cov-2 escaped from China where it originated again, and now is declared pandemic.
Govt's freakout, order lockdowns and isolation trying to buy time.
Now, the reason SARS-CoV-2 couldn't be contained and it's hard to be restrained - they say - it's Sars-Cov-2 ability to remain undetected for a longer period, and transmit while in incubation (like snakes on a plane)
I don't believe that it's not possible to counter the virus, my bet is trial vaccines will be announced soon. I am also confident that humans have the ability to develop immunity to novel viruses, but let's see how lockdowns work.
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My stepmum messaged me this morning to say that her fisherman friend told her the local boats only landed 2000 boxes instead of the usual 25k. She's up North near Inverness next to the North Sea.
Coffee shops are takeaway only as of today with all the seating areas closed. Buses are going to sunday service. There were no ticket conductors on the trains last night either.
In rush hour last night there were 5 people on the double decker bus I take home.
Coffee shops are takeaway only as of today with all the seating areas closed. Buses are going to sunday service. There were no ticket conductors on the trains last night either.
In rush hour last night there were 5 people on the double decker bus I take home.
May the Divine Comic Mind bless you @Neil. You are so unique from my perspective. I always enjoy your posts. You may be one of the only members who encapsulate your generation's view of these chaotic times. Yes, I think "Nemesis"/brown star is a possibility but don't lose heart. We are all a team if we network together.
Added the false March 3, 2020 statement by WHO director general and USA "Patient Zero" Jan 19, 2020.
Corona timeline
CHINA November, 2002: After its experience with the SARS outbreak in Guangdong Province in 2002, China implemented a rapid response protocol for infectious diseases. The protocol empowered the Health Ministry to assemble professional and managerial help from across the country, established an emergency response coordinating team, prepared funding and authorization for supplies, equipment and emergency health care facilities, anticipating that existing hospitals would be overwhelmed.
USA September 2008: Though the first cases of H1N1 swine flu were reported in California and Texas in late March, 2009, subsequent genetic analysis suggests that it began six months before it was first detected, in September, 2008, at the start of the ‘flu season. The CDC admits, below, that earlier Covid-19 cases went undetected, too
SEVEN YEAR GAP
USA JULY, 2015: Patent application lodged for attenuated coronavirus by The Pirbright Institute (UK), application granted November 2018.
USA June, 2017: World Bank issues Pandemic Bonds for emergency pandemic financing and pandemic insurance.
USA May, 2018: The President Fires the entire US Pandemic Response Team and does not replace it.
USA November 2018: Patent application for attenuated coronavirus (see July 2015) granted.
USA April, 2019: An outbreak of severe vaping-associated lung illness is exclusively confined to the United States, despite the fact that the majority of vapers live outside the US.
USA July 3, 2019: The CDC halts research at Fort Detrick, citing “national security reasons” for not releasing information about its decision.
USA Jul 14, 2019: Chinese researcher escorted from infectious disease lab amid RCMP investigation. Public Health Agency of Canada describes it as a possible ‘policy breach,’ no risk to Canadian public. The first Chinese to discover or warn about the Covid-19 outbreak?
AUSTRALIA August, 2019: Australia Health Management Plan for Pandemic Influenza released.
USA August, 2019: First Vaping Death Reported by Health Officials “Amid the lack of information, investigators scrambled to find shared links to the respiratory problems. Officials said earlier this week that many patients, most of whom were adolescents or young adults, had described difficulty breathing, chest pain, vomiting and fatigue,” the precise symptoms of Covid-19 infection.
USA October 18, 2019: The Johns Hopkins Center for Health Security in partnership with the World Economic Forum and the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation hosted Event 201, a high-level pandemic exercise on October 18, 2019, in New York, NY. Event 201 simulated an "outbreak of a novel zoonotic coronavirus transmitted from bats to pigs to people that eventually becomes efficiently transmissible from person to person, leading to a severe pandemic that leaves 65 million dead.
USA/CHINA October 27, 2019 At a peak of international tension and the ‘flu season in the northern hemisphere, on the eve of China’s biggest travel season, 300 American military servicemen visit Wuhan for the International Military Games.
USA December, 2019. A Chinese medical researcher is arrested in Boston trying to take biological samples back to China. Zheng Zaosong, of Beth Israel Deaconess Medical Center, confessed to taking material from a lab in Boston. FBI Special Agent Kara Spice found 21 wrapped vials containing a “brown liquid” that appeared to be “biological material” (samples of post-mortem lung tissue look like ‘brown liquid’). Zheng’s roommate, also a researcher, told FBI agents that two labmates of Zheng had succeeded in getting specimens to China. China, presumably, now went on high alert.
USA/CHINA December 2019: Chinese researchers in the USA informed China’s Health Ministry of a novel Coronavirus outbreak there, triggering a readiness alert nationwide. The WHO describes what happened next, “In the face of a previously unknown virus, China has rolled out perhaps the most ambitious, agile, and aggressive disease containment effort in history…China’s bold approach to contain the rapid spread of this new respiratory pathogen has changed the course of a rapidly escalating and deadly epidemic.”
CHINA Dec 26, 2019: Jixian Zhang detects four anomalous pneumonia infections in Wuhan and reports them to the provincial CDC the next day. The provincial authorities immediately inform the national CDC which prepares to implement the pandemic response protocols.
GERMANY December 25-December 31, 2019: Charité (clinic in Berlin) starts developing test for the new Corona virus after first informal information reaches them. Later sends prototype to China, "unnamed colleagues" in China confirm that it works. WHO then publishes the test on its website as the first test. China develops own test, but demand is high elsewhere - even in Southeast Asia.
CHINA December 30, 2019: China’s national CDC notifies the WHO
CHINA December 31, 2019: WHO reports Zhang’s discovery to the world.
MALAYSIA January 5, 2020: Malaysia’s Assistant to the Prime Minister, Matthias Chang, speculates that the US is waging biological warfare on China.
USA Jan 6, 2020 Infectious disease expert Amesh A. Adalja, M.D., senior scholar at the Johns Hopkins Center for Health Security, agrees, “We are on track to have a season like the 2017-2018 season,” when 80,000 Americans died of flu complications.
CHINA January 7, 2020: China identifies the virus as 2019-nCov and confirms it five days later. President Xi tells officials that the country is on a ‘war footing’
CHINA January 13, 2020: China makes the first 2019-nCov test kits available.
USA January 19, 2020: A 35-year-old man presented to an urgent care clinic in Snohomish County, Washington, with a 4-day history of cough and subjective fever. He disclosed that he had returned to Washington State on January 15 after traveling to visit family in Wuhan, China.
Apart from a history of hypertriglyceridemia, the patient was an otherwise healthy nonsmoker. On January 20, 2020, the CDC confirmed that the patient’s nasopharyngeal and oropharyngeal swabs tested positive for 2019-nCoV. By Jan. 30, the patient’s symptoms had resolved, according to a New England Journal of Medicine paper. Snohomish County officials allowed him to leave home isolation three weeks later.
CHINA January 25, 2020: Construction begins on a 1,000 bed intensive care hospital in Wuhan.
CHINA January 26, 2020: China extends Spring Festival holiday to contain the outbreak.
USA January 28, 2020: Harvard Chemistry Professor Arrested, Handcuffed, And Accused Of Lying About Ties To China. Charles Lieber, Chair of Harvard’s Department of Chemical Biology, led a Chinese research group focusing on the use of nanotechnology to identify viruses.
CHINA February 5, 2020: First patients moved into new 1,000 bed intensive care hospital.
CHINA February 23, 2020. Chinese scientists found genomic evidence that the seafood market in Wuhan was not the source of the novel coronavirus. Their genetic data suggests the virus was introduced from elsewhere and had already circulated widely among humans in Wuhan before December 2019, probably beginning in mid- to late November.
CHINA February 27, 2020: On Taiwan TV a prominent virologist explained flow charts suggesting that the coronavirus originated in the US.
USA March 3, 2020: The Director General of the WHO announced: "While many people globally have built up immunity to seasonal flu strains, COVID-19 is a new virus to which no one has immunity. That means more people are susceptible to infection, and some will suffer severe disease. Globally, about 3.4% of reported COVID-19 cases have died. By comparison, seasonal flu generally kills far fewer than 1% of those infected." This was patently false. The coronavirus mortality rate reported by the media as stated by Dr. Ghebreyesus is completely inaccurate as all subsequent numbers show.
CHINA March 4, 2020: February rail freight loadings rise 4.5% YOY.
CHINA March 5, 2020: Shipments to foreign JIT customers upgraded: government subsidizes upgrades from sea to rail delivery and from rail to air delivery.
USA March 6, 2020: Question: How did the virus come to the United States? Answer: “The first known patients in the U.S. contracted the virus while traveling in other countries or after exposure to someone who had been to China or one of the other affected areas. But now, a few cases here cannot be traced to these risk factors. This is concerning because it suggests the illness may be spreading across communities for which the source of infection is unknown, which we call community spread/transmission. Dr. Emily Landon, spokesperson, U Chicago School of Medicine.
USA March 9, 2020: HHS staffers often weren’t informed about coronavirus developments because they didn’t have adequate clearance. He said he was told that the matters were classified “because it had to do with China.”
USA March 11, 2020: White House classifies coronavirus deliberations. The meetings at HHS were held in a secure area called a “Sensitive Compartmentalized Information Facility,” or SCIF, usually reserved for intelligence and military operations. HHS has SCIFs because theoretically it would play a major role in biowarfare or chemical attacks.
CHINA March 10, 2020: Government organizes and subsidizes bus, rail and air transport for two hundred million migrant workers to return to urban jobs.
USA March 12, 2020: CDC director Robert Redfield admits to a House Oversight Committee that some Americans who were diagnosed as dying from influenza tested positive for Covid-19 posthumously.
USA Mar 13, 2020: Chinese FM’s Lijian Zhao demands US authorities reveal what they’re hiding about the origins of Covid-19. “When did patient zero begin in the US? How many people are infected? What are the names of the hospitals? It might be the US army who brought the epidemic to Wuhan. Be transparent! Make your data public! The US owes us an explanation!”
CHINA March 16, 2020: Ninety percent of businesses expected to resume full operations. All Apple stores open.
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Postscript: Researchers have greatly advanced their understanding of viral evolution since H1N1 a decade ago and finding patient zero is now more science than art. Recently, a team of Chinese researchers claimed to demonstrate that Covid-19 was born in September, 2019. The British researchers who had discovered the earlier H1N1 date are not convinced.
Corona timeline
CHINA November, 2002: After its experience with the SARS outbreak in Guangdong Province in 2002, China implemented a rapid response protocol for infectious diseases. The protocol empowered the Health Ministry to assemble professional and managerial help from across the country, established an emergency response coordinating team, prepared funding and authorization for supplies, equipment and emergency health care facilities, anticipating that existing hospitals would be overwhelmed.
USA September 2008: Though the first cases of H1N1 swine flu were reported in California and Texas in late March, 2009, subsequent genetic analysis suggests that it began six months before it was first detected, in September, 2008, at the start of the ‘flu season. The CDC admits, below, that earlier Covid-19 cases went undetected, too
SEVEN YEAR GAP
USA JULY, 2015: Patent application lodged for attenuated coronavirus by The Pirbright Institute (UK), application granted November 2018.
USA June, 2017: World Bank issues Pandemic Bonds for emergency pandemic financing and pandemic insurance.
USA May, 2018: The President Fires the entire US Pandemic Response Team and does not replace it.
USA November 2018: Patent application for attenuated coronavirus (see July 2015) granted.
USA April, 2019: An outbreak of severe vaping-associated lung illness is exclusively confined to the United States, despite the fact that the majority of vapers live outside the US.
USA July 3, 2019: The CDC halts research at Fort Detrick, citing “national security reasons” for not releasing information about its decision.
USA Jul 14, 2019: Chinese researcher escorted from infectious disease lab amid RCMP investigation. Public Health Agency of Canada describes it as a possible ‘policy breach,’ no risk to Canadian public. The first Chinese to discover or warn about the Covid-19 outbreak?
AUSTRALIA August, 2019: Australia Health Management Plan for Pandemic Influenza released.
USA August, 2019: First Vaping Death Reported by Health Officials “Amid the lack of information, investigators scrambled to find shared links to the respiratory problems. Officials said earlier this week that many patients, most of whom were adolescents or young adults, had described difficulty breathing, chest pain, vomiting and fatigue,” the precise symptoms of Covid-19 infection.
USA October 18, 2019: The Johns Hopkins Center for Health Security in partnership with the World Economic Forum and the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation hosted Event 201, a high-level pandemic exercise on October 18, 2019, in New York, NY. Event 201 simulated an "outbreak of a novel zoonotic coronavirus transmitted from bats to pigs to people that eventually becomes efficiently transmissible from person to person, leading to a severe pandemic that leaves 65 million dead.
USA/CHINA October 27, 2019 At a peak of international tension and the ‘flu season in the northern hemisphere, on the eve of China’s biggest travel season, 300 American military servicemen visit Wuhan for the International Military Games.
USA December, 2019. A Chinese medical researcher is arrested in Boston trying to take biological samples back to China. Zheng Zaosong, of Beth Israel Deaconess Medical Center, confessed to taking material from a lab in Boston. FBI Special Agent Kara Spice found 21 wrapped vials containing a “brown liquid” that appeared to be “biological material” (samples of post-mortem lung tissue look like ‘brown liquid’). Zheng’s roommate, also a researcher, told FBI agents that two labmates of Zheng had succeeded in getting specimens to China. China, presumably, now went on high alert.
USA/CHINA December 2019: Chinese researchers in the USA informed China’s Health Ministry of a novel Coronavirus outbreak there, triggering a readiness alert nationwide. The WHO describes what happened next, “In the face of a previously unknown virus, China has rolled out perhaps the most ambitious, agile, and aggressive disease containment effort in history…China’s bold approach to contain the rapid spread of this new respiratory pathogen has changed the course of a rapidly escalating and deadly epidemic.”
CHINA Dec 26, 2019: Jixian Zhang detects four anomalous pneumonia infections in Wuhan and reports them to the provincial CDC the next day. The provincial authorities immediately inform the national CDC which prepares to implement the pandemic response protocols.
GERMANY December 25-December 31, 2019: Charité (clinic in Berlin) starts developing test for the new Corona virus after first informal information reaches them. Later sends prototype to China, "unnamed colleagues" in China confirm that it works. WHO then publishes the test on its website as the first test. China develops own test, but demand is high elsewhere - even in Southeast Asia.
CHINA December 30, 2019: China’s national CDC notifies the WHO
CHINA December 31, 2019: WHO reports Zhang’s discovery to the world.
MALAYSIA January 5, 2020: Malaysia’s Assistant to the Prime Minister, Matthias Chang, speculates that the US is waging biological warfare on China.
USA Jan 6, 2020 Infectious disease expert Amesh A. Adalja, M.D., senior scholar at the Johns Hopkins Center for Health Security, agrees, “We are on track to have a season like the 2017-2018 season,” when 80,000 Americans died of flu complications.
CHINA January 7, 2020: China identifies the virus as 2019-nCov and confirms it five days later. President Xi tells officials that the country is on a ‘war footing’
CHINA January 13, 2020: China makes the first 2019-nCov test kits available.
USA January 19, 2020: A 35-year-old man presented to an urgent care clinic in Snohomish County, Washington, with a 4-day history of cough and subjective fever. He disclosed that he had returned to Washington State on January 15 after traveling to visit family in Wuhan, China.
Apart from a history of hypertriglyceridemia, the patient was an otherwise healthy nonsmoker. On January 20, 2020, the CDC confirmed that the patient’s nasopharyngeal and oropharyngeal swabs tested positive for 2019-nCoV. By Jan. 30, the patient’s symptoms had resolved, according to a New England Journal of Medicine paper. Snohomish County officials allowed him to leave home isolation three weeks later.
CHINA January 25, 2020: Construction begins on a 1,000 bed intensive care hospital in Wuhan.
CHINA January 26, 2020: China extends Spring Festival holiday to contain the outbreak.
USA January 28, 2020: Harvard Chemistry Professor Arrested, Handcuffed, And Accused Of Lying About Ties To China. Charles Lieber, Chair of Harvard’s Department of Chemical Biology, led a Chinese research group focusing on the use of nanotechnology to identify viruses.
CHINA February 5, 2020: First patients moved into new 1,000 bed intensive care hospital.
CHINA February 23, 2020. Chinese scientists found genomic evidence that the seafood market in Wuhan was not the source of the novel coronavirus. Their genetic data suggests the virus was introduced from elsewhere and had already circulated widely among humans in Wuhan before December 2019, probably beginning in mid- to late November.
CHINA February 27, 2020: On Taiwan TV a prominent virologist explained flow charts suggesting that the coronavirus originated in the US.
USA March 3, 2020: The Director General of the WHO announced: "While many people globally have built up immunity to seasonal flu strains, COVID-19 is a new virus to which no one has immunity. That means more people are susceptible to infection, and some will suffer severe disease. Globally, about 3.4% of reported COVID-19 cases have died. By comparison, seasonal flu generally kills far fewer than 1% of those infected." This was patently false. The coronavirus mortality rate reported by the media as stated by Dr. Ghebreyesus is completely inaccurate as all subsequent numbers show.
CHINA March 4, 2020: February rail freight loadings rise 4.5% YOY.
CHINA March 5, 2020: Shipments to foreign JIT customers upgraded: government subsidizes upgrades from sea to rail delivery and from rail to air delivery.
USA March 6, 2020: Question: How did the virus come to the United States? Answer: “The first known patients in the U.S. contracted the virus while traveling in other countries or after exposure to someone who had been to China or one of the other affected areas. But now, a few cases here cannot be traced to these risk factors. This is concerning because it suggests the illness may be spreading across communities for which the source of infection is unknown, which we call community spread/transmission. Dr. Emily Landon, spokesperson, U Chicago School of Medicine.
USA March 9, 2020: HHS staffers often weren’t informed about coronavirus developments because they didn’t have adequate clearance. He said he was told that the matters were classified “because it had to do with China.”
USA March 11, 2020: White House classifies coronavirus deliberations. The meetings at HHS were held in a secure area called a “Sensitive Compartmentalized Information Facility,” or SCIF, usually reserved for intelligence and military operations. HHS has SCIFs because theoretically it would play a major role in biowarfare or chemical attacks.
CHINA March 10, 2020: Government organizes and subsidizes bus, rail and air transport for two hundred million migrant workers to return to urban jobs.
USA March 12, 2020: CDC director Robert Redfield admits to a House Oversight Committee that some Americans who were diagnosed as dying from influenza tested positive for Covid-19 posthumously.
USA Mar 13, 2020: Chinese FM’s Lijian Zhao demands US authorities reveal what they’re hiding about the origins of Covid-19. “When did patient zero begin in the US? How many people are infected? What are the names of the hospitals? It might be the US army who brought the epidemic to Wuhan. Be transparent! Make your data public! The US owes us an explanation!”
CHINA March 16, 2020: Ninety percent of businesses expected to resume full operations. All Apple stores open.
***
Postscript: Researchers have greatly advanced their understanding of viral evolution since H1N1 a decade ago and finding patient zero is now more science than art. Recently, a team of Chinese researchers claimed to demonstrate that Covid-19 was born in September, 2019. The British researchers who had discovered the earlier H1N1 date are not convinced.
Western governments are playing a VERY dangerous game in assuming that the global economy will easily rebound from the serious impact of the covid-19 containment measures.
In imposing these measures they are in essence simulating the effects of a major natural disaster (to the greatest extent possible without actually having one).
If as more data about covid-19 continues to suggest that these measures were unnecessary (in the way they are being implemented) and the economy does not recover and goes into "free fall", there will be a backlash unlike anything the 'elite' have ever seen.
In imposing these measures they are in essence simulating the effects of a major natural disaster (to the greatest extent possible without actually having one).
If as more data about covid-19 continues to suggest that these measures were unnecessary (in the way they are being implemented) and the economy does not recover and goes into "free fall", there will be a backlash unlike anything the 'elite' have ever seen.
angelburst29
The Living Force
When stupid becomes crazy! The World around me has suddenly changed. This morning I received a 4 page notice from management in my apartment complex - all about the Coronavirus, do's and don'ts and a link to a Coronavirus hot-line. Local media TV channels and radio stations are saturated with everything about the Coronavirus. Local Charities are openly requesting cash donations to support their social causes and the Salvation Army have announced they will be giving out food every Thursday to families that qualify.
Two local grocery store shelves are empty of can soup, most can vegetables, can meat products and tuna fish. Bread is in short supply. In the frozen food section, prepared meals and anything containing meat are empty. Limited selection in fresh beef, pork and chicken.
Fresh produce, fruits and vegetables are in good supply. Deli in both stores had a long waiting line. Same situation at the local WalMart. To re-stock empty shelves, WalMart has changed it's store hours from being open 24 hours to 7A.M. - 8:30 P.M.
I stocked up on yeast packets, butter, extra non-bleached flour, quinoa and corn meal to start making bread and rolls for my Family.
Before returning home, made a visit to Agway and picked up a fresh supply of garden seeds for my Son's garden's. It's warm enough now to start planting seeds and onion sets.
I have a relative who's in top management with the Federal National Parks. Yesterday, they had a conference call and are contemplating closing all National Parks in the U.S. for three months. None of this Coronavirus panic is making any common sense?
Even Trump seems to add to the confusion ...
U.S. Virus Plan Anticipates 18-Month Pandemic and Widespread Shortages (Video)
U.S. Virus Plan Anticipates 18-Month Pandemic and Widespread Shortages
Trump signs $100 billion coronavirus relief package
Trump signs $100 billion coronavirus relief package
I know this might sound farfetched BUT ... "Is Netanyahu the one who is solely responsible for this whole Coronavirus being blown out of proportion - so he can try to stay in POWER and protect himself from going to jail on numerous corruption charges?" With the outreach Israel has over Governments and people in high places, would Netanyahu be so arrogant, as to close down Borders and lock the World in a pen like the Palestinian's, with the promise that large Corporations would get a large "Bail-out" in return?
Israel's Netanyahu accused of exploiting virus crisis
Israel's Netanyahu accused of exploiting virus crisis
Two local grocery store shelves are empty of can soup, most can vegetables, can meat products and tuna fish. Bread is in short supply. In the frozen food section, prepared meals and anything containing meat are empty. Limited selection in fresh beef, pork and chicken.
Fresh produce, fruits and vegetables are in good supply. Deli in both stores had a long waiting line. Same situation at the local WalMart. To re-stock empty shelves, WalMart has changed it's store hours from being open 24 hours to 7A.M. - 8:30 P.M.
I stocked up on yeast packets, butter, extra non-bleached flour, quinoa and corn meal to start making bread and rolls for my Family.
Before returning home, made a visit to Agway and picked up a fresh supply of garden seeds for my Son's garden's. It's warm enough now to start planting seeds and onion sets.
I have a relative who's in top management with the Federal National Parks. Yesterday, they had a conference call and are contemplating closing all National Parks in the U.S. for three months. None of this Coronavirus panic is making any common sense?
Even Trump seems to add to the confusion ...
U.S. Virus Plan Anticipates 18-Month Pandemic and Widespread Shortages (Video)
U.S. Virus Plan Anticipates 18-Month Pandemic and Widespread Shortages
Trump signs $100 billion coronavirus relief package
Trump signs $100 billion coronavirus relief package
I know this might sound farfetched BUT ... "Is Netanyahu the one who is solely responsible for this whole Coronavirus being blown out of proportion - so he can try to stay in POWER and protect himself from going to jail on numerous corruption charges?" With the outreach Israel has over Governments and people in high places, would Netanyahu be so arrogant, as to close down Borders and lock the World in a pen like the Palestinian's, with the promise that large Corporations would get a large "Bail-out" in return?
Israel's Netanyahu accused of exploiting virus crisis
Israel's Netanyahu accused of exploiting virus crisis
I had forgotten about that! That exchange changes my assumption in Scenario 2, that 'they' can endlessly fiddle with economic numbers without breaking things due to structural weaknesses - not least, wishful thinking!
Which brings to mind...
The infamous 'April drop dead date' answer was in response to someone working in the financial sector asking when they should be 'in France', i.e. ready to hunker down because the SHTF!
I know many think this every year, but this year it's my turn; this April really could be it!
Indeed. If the truth ever gets out, like with the WMDs, people won't forget: the emotional energy was too intense because their lives had been directly affected in major ways. Plus, if the economy lies in ruins, there is no way of using the memory hole. French revolution time. But who knows - expect the unexpected I guess.
Just watched the James Corbett: New York City lockdown and cascading effects video - Holy Sh*t if what's being said really comes to pass!
Although I posted Gov. DeWine referencing war in a former post (before the last), I didn't read past that part or I would have caught this:
And, as previously posted with the Breaking story, the National Guard is being utilized - phasing them in in an humanitarian way for now, but then . . . see Corbett video!
A bright spot:
Although I posted Gov. DeWine referencing war in a former post (before the last), I didn't read past that part or I would have caught this:
I'm beginning to figure out who exactly the "war" is going to be against!
And, as previously posted with the Breaking story, the National Guard is being utilized - phasing them in in an humanitarian way for now, but then . . . see Corbett video!A bright spot:
nature
Dagobah Resident
I confirm that too. I'm reading some exchanges between doctors on social medias and one of the doctors was angry against her own patients: while cancelling all 'non important" (i.e. non suspicion of corona) consultations, some patients were angry at the telephone against her secretary. Then that doctor says to the group (of doctors) if someone, like the syndicate or other instances, can convey that some patients don't cooperate and necessity to toughen coercitive measures..
Another point I'd like to share is that there is something grave and bad occuring among them. The panic is such that doctors see "coronavirus" everywhere!!! Example: one of them reports that he had 2 cases in a week of anosmia (= you smell less or not at all the odours), and that he called Pr X at "La Pitié-salpétrière" (a famous university hospital in Paris) to ask him if "anosmia" is a sign of corona. The professor told "yes! " and then, what happened? Lots of other doctors came and tell that indeed they see more cases of aniosmia these last days.
Well, here on the forum you know that until you don't pay attention to a thing, you don't notice it. Or when you buy a Renault Kadjar blue, you notice all the other ones while you didn't before buying the car.
Coming back to the doctors' discussion, it took a turn where they came to say that "anosmia is a pathognomonic sign of corona "
pathognomonic means specific of a disease. They have lost their mind !! Every normal doctor knows that anosmia is not pathognomonic, it is seen mostly in colds, in some chronic sinusitis, in some chronic rhinitis when your nose is runny, in nasal polyposis, etc.
I continue: Some complained that it's pity they can't get biological testing to confirm the covid19, because the laboratories don't accept to do it in fear of getting themselves infected via the samples. Thus, the test is done only for ICU patients.
But they "forget" that there are asymptomatic positive testings, ie not ill people but testing positive.
To bypass this absence of testing, they came to the agreement that anosmia is enough to clinically consider the patient as infected by the covid19, and treat these patients with antiviral drugs (the ones ending by -vir, these inefficient drugs)
So, I let you imagine how this will falsely increase the official numbers of covid19. I guess they can make the exagerated diagnosis with other symptoms too (you no more have a simple cold, but the covid19)
It made me remind Laura in her wave series noting that most researchers present things in such a way they try to put a squarred dowell in a round hole (i don't remember the exact expression in english - please correct me)
Some promising news from Wuhan:
www.rt.com
19 Mar, 2020
For the 1st time since outbreak, China reports NO NEW LOCAL COVID-19 CASES
Mainland China has had no new local coronavirus infections over the past 24 hours – the first time since the outbreak began in December. Beijing is still struggling to contain imported cases of the disease.
You can just read this thread and you will find your answer why is that like it is. What you see and what you think about this is shaped by fake news and propaganda. So you are telling this based on your perception. The real numbers tell something else. Go through this thread and then make a new post about the same subject. A lot of things will be much clearer.