Let's all start calling it #Plandemic, it migh help wake some people up.
Coronavirus Pandemic: Apocalypse Now! Or exaggerated scare story?
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Great find @MikeJoseph82
Just a thought: somebody produced this excellent infographic for COVID and flu treatment ideas, can't find the original post-
It has been really useful to share on social media. Do you think we could make a couple more for social media, maybe including wording from Gaby's article on the benefits of breathing and EE to reduce stress and help boost immunity? Mods- please move this if you think it would be more appropriate elsewhere.
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It has been really useful to share on social media. Do you think we could make a couple more for social media, maybe including wording from Gaby's article on the benefits of breathing and EE to reduce stress and help boost immunity? Mods- please move this if you think it would be more appropriate elsewhere.
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the blind leading the blind.Whomever has a concern about the loss of civil liberties has to be a conspiracy theorist:
Pandemic has conspiracy theorists seized that Trudeau will 'get them;' expert
The novel coronavirus threatens the health of Canadians, but to some people the pandemic stokes fears of a government plot to subvert freedoms, say experts who study conspiracy theories.www.cp24.com
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Add this the seemingly endless list of utterly bizarre actions by the authorities during lock down: Police in the UK poured black dye into a local 'lagoon' near a quarry (that's apparently filled with garbage, but still) in an attempt to deter them from visiting during lock down.
They attempt to justify it by saying the water is toxic but it being unsafe isn't new, a few signs pointing this out and maybe a bulletin would suffice.
Is this what the police get up to when there's no criminals to catch? If they're not spoiling popular scenery they're chasing people down with drones and then practising their video editing by making 1984 style promos?
'The force said it hoped the move would make the “picturesque” site “less appealing” to visitors.'
Article, pictures, and the 'proud' Facebook post from the local police in the quote below:
They attempt to justify it by saying the water is toxic but it being unsafe isn't new, a few signs pointing this out and maybe a bulletin would suffice.
Is this what the police get up to when there's no criminals to catch? If they're not spoiling popular scenery they're chasing people down with drones and then practising their video editing by making 1984 style promos?
'The force said it hoped the move would make the “picturesque” site “less appealing” to visitors.'
Article, pictures, and the 'proud' Facebook post from the local police in the quote below:
Coronavirus: Peak District’s toxic ‘Blue Lagoon’ dyed black to deter gatherings during Covid-19 lockdown
Water contains car wrecks, dead animals, excrement and rubbish
The Peak District’s toxic “Blue Lagoon” has been dyed black to deter people from gathering at the beauty spot during the countrywide coronavirus lockdown.
Derbyshire Police revealed it had changed the colour of the water in the disused quarry near Buxton after reports of people congregating there.
The force said it hoped the move would make the “picturesque” site “less appealing” to visitors.
Sharing photos of officers standing near the water in full body protective suits on Wednesday, the force wrote on Facebook: “Yesterday we received reports that people were congregating at the ‘Blue Lagoon’ in Harpur Hill, Buxton.
“No doubt this is due to the picturesque location and the lovely weather (for once!) in Buxton.
“However, the location is dangerous and this type of gathering is in contravention of the current instruction of the UK government.
“With this in mind, we have attended the location this morning and used water dye to make the water look less appealing.”
Police often dye the water in the former limestone quarry black to deter swimmers from entering.
Despite the pool having a pH level of 11.3, making it almost as toxic as bleach and ammonia, many people still flock to it.
Signs have been put up around the site by the council in recent years to warn people the water contains car wrecks, dead animals, excrement and rubbish.
Derbyshire Police has already faced criticism this week for using drones to track people visiting the Peak District after the government imposed a nationwide lockdown on Monday.
The force released a 90-second video showing about seven vehicles in a car park near Curbar Edge in the national park, as well as people in pairs enjoying a stroll and walking their dogs.
It said daily exercise “should be taken locally to your home” and “under government guidance all travel is limited to essential travel only”.
Former justice secretary David Gauke was one of a number of people to criticise the move on Twitter.
He wrote: “This is badly misjudged. People should maintain social distancing, which is what these people are doing.
“We need to maintain public support for fundamental behaviour change which requires the authorities to focus on genuinely bad behaviour.”
Added: They already have signs up so is it really necessary?
Added 2: These are notes the police are leaving on cars throughout the countryside, not just the lagoon:
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Professor Sucharit Bhakdi does NOT back down - now he sent an open letter to Chancellor Angela Merkel, here's the english version (link):
An Open Letter from Dr. Sucharit Bhakdi, Professor Emeritus of Medical Microbiology at the Johannes Gutenberg University Mainz, to the German Chancellor Dr. Angela Merkel. Professor Bhakdi calls for an urgent reassessment of the response to Covid-19 and asks the Chancellor five crucial questions. The letter is dated March 26. This is an inofficial translation; see the original letter in German as a PDF.
Open Letter
Dear Chancellor,
As Emeritus of the Johannes-Gutenberg-University in Mainz and longtime director of the Institute for Medical Microbiology, I feel obliged to critically question the far-reaching restrictions on public life that we are currently taking on ourselves in order to reduce the spread of the COVID-19 virus.
It is expressly not my intention to play down the dangers of the virus or to spread a political message. However, I feel it is my duty to make a scientific contribution to putting the current data and facts into perspective – and, in addition, to ask questions that are in danger of being lost in the heated debate.
The reason for my concern lies above all in the truly unforeseeable socio-economic consequences of the drastic containment measures which are currently being applied in large parts of Europe and which are also already being practiced on a large scale in Germany.
My wish is to discuss critically – and with the necessary foresight – the advantages and disadvantages of restricting public life and the resulting long-term effects.
To this end, I am confronted with five questions which have not been answered sufficiently so far, but which are indispensable for a balanced analysis.
I would like to ask you to comment quickly and, at the same time, appeal to the Federal Government to develop strategies that effectively protect risk groups without restricting public life across the board and sow the seeds for an even more intensive polarization of society than is already taking place.
With the utmost respect,
Prof. em. Dr. med. Sucharit Bhakdi
1. Statistics
In infectiology – founded by Robert Koch himself – a traditional distinction is made between infection and disease. An illness requires a clinical manifestation. [1] Therefore, only patients with symptoms such as fever or cough should be included in the statistics as new cases.
In other words, a new infection – as measured by the COVID-19 test – does not necessarily mean that we are dealing with a newly ill patient who needs a hospital bed. However, it is currently assumed that five percent of all infected people become seriously ill and require ventilation. Projections based on this estimate suggest that the healthcare system could be overburdened.
My question: Did the projections make a distinction between symptom-free infected people and actual, sick patients – i.e. people who develop symptoms?
2. Dangerousness
A number of coronaviruses have been circulating for a long time – largely unnoticed by the media. [2] If it should turn out that the COVID-19 virus should not be ascribed a significantly higher risk potential than the already circulating corona viruses, all countermeasures would obviously become unnecessary.
The internationally recognized International Journal of Antimicrobial Agents will soon publish a paper that addresses exactly this question. Preliminary results of the study can already be seen today and lead to the conclusion that the new virus is NOT different from traditional corona viruses in terms of dangerousness. The authors express this in the title of their paper „SARS-CoV-2: Fear versus Data“. [3]
My question: How does the current workload of intensive care units with patients with diagnosed COVID-19 compare to other coronavirus infections, and to what extent will this data be taken into account in further decision-making by the federal government? In addition: Has the above study been taken into account in the planning so far? Here too, of course, „diagnosed“ means that the virus plays a decisive role in the patient’s state of illness, and not that previous illnesses play a greater role.
3. Dissemination
According to a report in the Süddeutsche Zeitung, not even the much-cited Robert Koch Institute knows exactly how much is tested for COVID-19. It is a fact, however, that a rapid increase in the number of cases has recently been observed in Germany as the volume of tests increases. [4]
It is therefore reasonable to suspect that the virus has already spread unnoticed in the healthy population. This would have two consequences: firstly, it would mean that the official death rate – on 26 March 2020, for example, there were 206 deaths from around 37,300 infections, or 0.55 percent [5] – is too high; and secondly, it would mean that it would hardly be possible to prevent the virus from spreading in the healthy population.
My question: Has there already been a random sample of the healthy general population to validate the real spread of the virus, or is this planned in the near future?
4. Mortality
The fear of a rise in the death rate in Germany (currently 0.55 percent) is currently the subject of particularly intense media attention. Many people are worried that it could shoot up like in Italy (10 percent) and Spain (7 percent) if action is not taken in time.
At the same time, the mistake is being made worldwide to report virus-related deaths as soon as it is established that the virus was present at the time of death – regardless of other factors. This violates a basic principle of infectiology: only when it is certain that an agent has played a significant role in the disease or death may a diagnosis be made. The Association of the Scientific Medical Societies of Germany expressly writes in its guidelines: „In addition to the cause of death, a causal chain must be stated, with the corresponding underlying disease in third place on the death certificate. Occasionally, four-linked causal chains must also be stated.“ [6]
At present there is no official information on whether, at least in retrospect, more critical analyses of medical records have been undertaken to determine how many deaths were actually caused by the virus.
My question: Has Germany simply followed this trend of a COVID-19 general suspicion? And: is it intended to continue this categorisation uncritically as in other countries? How, then, is a distinction to be made between genuine corona-related deaths and accidental virus presence at the time of death?
5. Comparability
The appalling situation in Italy is repeatedly used as a reference scenario. However, the true role of the virus in that country is completely unclear for many reasons – not only because points 3 and 4 above also apply here, but also because exceptional external factors exist which make these regions particularly vulnerable.
One of these factors is the increased air pollution in the north of Italy. According to WHO estimates, this situation, even without the virus, led to over 8,000 additional deaths per year in 2006 in the 13 largest cities in Italy alone. [7] The situation has not changed significantly since then. [8] Finally, it has also been shown that air pollution greatly increases the risk of viral lung diseases in very young and elderly people. [9]
Moreover, 27.4 percent of the particularly vulnerable population in this country live with young people, and in Spain as many as 33.5 percent. In Germany, the figure is only seven percent [10]. In addition, according to Prof. Dr. Reinhard Busse, head of the Department of Management in Health Care at the TU Berlin, Germany is significantly better equipped than Italy in terms of intensive care units – by a factor of about 2.5 [11].
My question: What efforts are being made to make the population aware of these elementary differences and to make people understand that scenarios like those in Italy or Spain are not realistic here?
References:
[1] Fachwörterbuch Infektionsschutz und Infektionsepidemiologie. Fachwörter – Definitionen – Interpretationen. Robert Koch-Institut, Berlin 2015. (abgerufen am 26.3.2020)
[2] Killerby et al., Human Coronavirus Circulation in the United States 2014–2017. J Clin Virol. 2018, 101, 52-56
[3] Roussel et al. SARS-CoV-2: Fear Versus Data. Int. J. Antimicrob. Agents 2020, 105947
[4] Charisius, H. Covid-19: Wie gut testet Deutschland? Süddeutsche Zeitung. (abgerufen am 27.3.2020)
[5] Johns Hopkins University, Coronavirus Resource Center. 2020. (abgerufen am 26.3.2020)
[6] S1-Leitlinie 054-001, Regeln zur Durchführung der ärztlichen Leichenschau. AWMF Online (abgerufen am 26.3.2020)
[7] Martuzzi et al. Health Impact of PM10 and Ozone in 13 Italian Cities. World Health Organization Regional Office for Europe. WHOLIS number E88700 2006
[8] European Environment Agency, Air Pollution Country Fact Sheets 2019, (abgerufen am 26.3.2020)
[9] Croft et al. The Association between Respiratory Infection and Air Pollution in the Setting of Air Quality Policy and Economic Change. Ann. Am. Thorac. Soc. 2019, 16, 321–330.
[10] United Nations, Department of Economic and Social Affairs, Population Division. Living Arrangements of Older Persons: A Report on an Expanded International Dataset (ST/ESA/SER.A/407). 2017
[11] Deutsches Ärzteblatt, Überlastung deutscher Krankenhäuser durch COVID-19 laut Experten unwahrscheinlich, (abgerufen am 26.3.2020)
It looks like the virulent, often fatal novel corona virus pneumonia complication is a consequence of zinc deficiency! See Emergency Room Doctor Doesn’t Realize Major Signs & Symptoms of COVID-19 Coronavirus Cases Match Evidences of Zinc Deficiency - LewRockwell LewRockwell.com .
Can we sue the entire medical profession for malpractice to recover the world's economic losses from this fiasco? We ought to seize the medical schools!
Can we sue the entire medical profession for malpractice to recover the world's economic losses from this fiasco? We ought to seize the medical schools!
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This doctor (Dr.Mila Laečković, she was a clinical psychologist in Serbia and anthropological psychiatrist who is living and working in France) confirms the correlation/link between meningitis vaccinations and large number of deaths that are being called corona virus deaths.
She knows a lot of doctors and virologists in France and they have confirmed it to her.
Video is in Serbian.
DR MILA ALEČKOVIĆ WHISTLEBLOWS THE WORLD LOBBY - Trump admits French medicine, play music every night
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The Force is Strong With This One
Coronavirus, l'ipotesi: carenza vitamina D può aumentare rischi
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A link to the document referred to in the article (in italian):
1)Vitamin D is important and deficiency runs rampant, you say? Adequate levels could improve people's health?! Who could have guessed?!? What an INCREDIBLE finding..
2)Who knows, maybe something good will come from this.. The Cs did say that people would be better prepared for the future pandemic.. This is certainly not much, but.. One small step at a time?
A few gleanings from today:
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How Did The "Three Little Piglets" Prepare For The "Wolf": Russia, U.S., China's Response To COVID-19
COVID-19, or as it has colloquially come to be known as coronavirus began on December 31st, 2019, when China notified...
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Is Vladimir Putin Still in Charge in the Kremlin?
This is not a question that figures in our Western commentary and analysis, since it is universally assumed that one man, Vladimir Putin, dominates Russian political life for a good reason: his unique ability to tame the contending factions at
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France Sanctions Chloroquine After 78 Of 80 Patients COMPLETELY Recover From COVID-19 Within Five Days
The French government has officially sanctioned the malaria drug chloroquine to fight the SARS-CoV-2 virus, France 24 English reported Saturday.“This ensures continued treatment of patients who have been treated for several years for a chronic condition with this drug, but also allows a...
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Neil Ferguson, the Scientist Who Convinced Boris Johnson of UK Covid Lockdown, Isn’t Very Bright
The scientist whose calculations about the potentially devastating impact of the coronavirus directly led to the countrywide lockdown has been criticised in t
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Seems to be policy indeed and is probably also related to why they are boarding up the expensive shops in Paris.
In France, a top official in Macron’s government has said that unlike the strict measures that have been imposed on the vast majority of the country’s population, the enforcement of quarantine shouldn’t be enforced in areas heavily populated with migrants so as to avoid riots.
“It is not a priority to enforce closings in certain neighborhoods and to stop gatherings,” French Secretary of State to the Ministry of the Interior Laurent Nunez said in a letter that was leaked to the Le Cenard Enchaine, French weekly news magazine Valeurs Actuelles reports.
France: Top government official argues enforcement of quarantine in migrant areas should ‘not be a priority’ in order to avoid riots
In France, a top official in Macron’s government has said that unlike the strict measures that have been imposed on the vast majority of the country’s population, the enforcement of quarantine shouldn’t be enforced in areas heavily populated with migrants so as to avoid riots.
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Regarding Laura's timeline, there was also this interesting bit in the article on Global Research:
I couldn't find further details on this, but if true, it would place an infection on US soil very early in the timeline.
I couldn't find further details on this, but if true, it would place an infection on US soil very early in the timeline.
From the above article:Seems to be policy indeed and is probably also related to why they are boarding up the expensive shops in Paris.
In France, a top official in Macron’s government has said that unlike the strict measures that have been imposed on the vast majority of the country’s population, the enforcement of quarantine shouldn’t be enforced in areas heavily populated with migrants so as to avoid riots.
“It is not a priority to enforce closings in certain neighborhoods and to stop gatherings,” French Secretary of State to the Ministry of the Interior Laurent Nunez said in a letter that was leaked to the Le Cenard Enchaine, French weekly news magazine Valeurs Actuelles reports.
France: Top government official argues enforcement of quarantine in migrant areas should ‘not be a priority’ in order to avoid riots
In France, a top official in Macron’s government has said that unlike the strict measures that have been imposed on the vast majority of the country’s population, the enforcement of quarantine shouldn’t be enforced in areas heavily populated with migrants so as to avoid riots.voiceofeurope.com
Other oppressed minorities are probably queuing there as well
Todays briefing of Dr Mercola: Antimalarial Medications: A COVID-19 Treatment Option?
in 2009,18 one study evaluated the use of chloroquine in human coronavirus subtype OC43, known to cause severe lower lung infections.19 The researchers used an animal model and found pretreatment demonstrated the drug was highly effective against this subtype. Interest in antimalarial drugs highlights a unique distribution of the virus.
As noted in a preliminary paper currently undergoing peer-review, “Global Spread of Coronavirus Disease 2019 and Malaria: An Epidemiological Paradox”:20
And, i´m back on nine4news.
in 2009,18 one study evaluated the use of chloroquine in human coronavirus subtype OC43, known to cause severe lower lung infections.19 The researchers used an animal model and found pretreatment demonstrated the drug was highly effective against this subtype. Interest in antimalarial drugs highlights a unique distribution of the virus.
As noted in a preliminary paper currently undergoing peer-review, “Global Spread of Coronavirus Disease 2019 and Malaria: An Epidemiological Paradox”:20
And, i´m back on nine4news.
