Coronavirus Pandemic: Apocalypse Now! Or exaggerated scare story?
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97,5% for the MMR-shot is pretty high, isn't it? I'm guessing that when the Covid vaccine comes out about 99,9% of Swedes will come running for it. Just a thought, that maybe the high vaccination rates have something to do with how robot-like and "cold" the culture is. I don't like to use those descriptions for 'my people' but it is something I have observed for years.
I think this whole thing with WHO not recommending lockdowns is just your old good-cop-bad-cop routine. They are saying 'nice things' every once in a while to mess with people's minds; "see, they can't really be that bad if they say things like this". We know that WHO is the vehicle through which the agenda has been implemented, so now that everything is in full swing, they can 'wash their hands' with statements like this. Another sentence comes to mind: "Oh, if they'd really would be guilty, they wouldn't advocate for restricting lockdowns". Voilà!More WHO opposition to lockdowns.
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I like this guy. He doesn't give a flying fuck. Kudos.
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I wouldn't have expected these results. There's obviously a clear divide between both groups not only in things political but also in their different levels of fear.
This may be a result of the liberals' unbridled consumption of the left-wing mass media which are not only whipping these people into a frenzy against Donald Trump while making them believe they would have to save America from 'fascism', but also turning them into believers of the 'scamdemic'.
It looks like Donald Trump's passion for calling out the 'fake news media' has helped weaning his supporters off the fear campaigns of the MSM.
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I wouldn't have expected these results. There's obviously a clear divide between both groups not only in things political but also in their different levels of fear.
This may be a result of the liberals' unbridled consumption of the left-wing mass media which are not only whipping these people into a frenzy against Donald Trump while making them believe they would have to save America from 'fascism', but also turning them into believers of the 'scamdemic'.
It looks like Donald Trump's passion for calling out the 'fake news media' has helped weaning his supporters off the fear campaigns of the MSM.
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I dont know who this is, but its interesting. Even the new, more deadlier virus for the second lockdown is there
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A great talk given by Tom Woods at a Mises Institute event where he eviscerates everything COVID related. From the bullying and shaming of people daring to question "da siance" allegedly because "dey're selfish and don't care bout peeples lives", to the lockdowns, mask mandates, and the loss of everything that makes life worth living all for "da grater gud". He doesn't touch on the hidden hand aspects of the corona-craziness and the pursuit of total control, but that's okay because he still presents a solid rebuke of the ridiculous absurdities that are the totalitarian measures being forced down people's throats that are worse than the thing they're supposed to have protected against.
Also, it was really satisfying hearing him tell all the 'voodoo peddlers', what he calls those pushing the BS narratives, to get bent.
Also, it was really satisfying hearing him tell all the 'voodoo peddlers', what he calls those pushing the BS narratives, to get bent.
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Some corona impressions from Germany.
The classification of the warning levels is based on the ratio of infections per 100,000 inhabitants. Limits are 35 infected/100,000 inhabitants or 50 infected/100,000 inhabitants. Since this week the borders are exceeded in my federal state which leads to a classification: risk area and with that the lockdown light begins. Many things make me angry at the moment. In the public there is a permanent blaming of irresponsible teenagers or resistant adults. Unfortunately, reality does not make it into the media. Nearly all hot spots were created by funerals and family celebrations of Kurds who gathered between 100 and 200 people in certain and well-known rooms/hall. Generally they do not wear masks. In my neighboring village there was such a funeral last week, which led to 27 corona falls. Only after a report to the police did the public order office appear and disband the event. The Kurds came from all parts of Germany and so there was a wide spread and also chain reaction. What makes me angry are not the Kurds but politics. We are only allowed to bury our relatives here with a strictly defined number of persons, very often under the supervision of the public order office. Funeral ceremonies after the funeral no longer take place. Kurdish funerals take place with 100-200 persons and subsequent funeral service. Why don't they close the known meeting places and forbid such gatherings of people in cemeteries? In the media no reference appears, one writes funeral service. And everyone now suspects normal citizens that once again they did not follow the rules.
Another point is the terrible conditions in schools. Our children sit in front of open windows in the cold in class. They are now allowed to put on woollen blankets and jackets. Many children are now ill, but not from corona but from freezing. That is not normal. Do they want to kill our children?
People are angry and they are getting angrier and angrier. Many also become awake and critical through the anger. This is a good sign, but it also means a certain danger. The existential fear due to planned company closures has increased greatly. In addition, there is a very high number of separations from marriages in my environment. It is all becoming too much for people.
The classification of the warning levels is based on the ratio of infections per 100,000 inhabitants. Limits are 35 infected/100,000 inhabitants or 50 infected/100,000 inhabitants. Since this week the borders are exceeded in my federal state which leads to a classification: risk area and with that the lockdown light begins. Many things make me angry at the moment. In the public there is a permanent blaming of irresponsible teenagers or resistant adults. Unfortunately, reality does not make it into the media. Nearly all hot spots were created by funerals and family celebrations of Kurds who gathered between 100 and 200 people in certain and well-known rooms/hall. Generally they do not wear masks. In my neighboring village there was such a funeral last week, which led to 27 corona falls. Only after a report to the police did the public order office appear and disband the event. The Kurds came from all parts of Germany and so there was a wide spread and also chain reaction. What makes me angry are not the Kurds but politics. We are only allowed to bury our relatives here with a strictly defined number of persons, very often under the supervision of the public order office. Funeral ceremonies after the funeral no longer take place. Kurdish funerals take place with 100-200 persons and subsequent funeral service. Why don't they close the known meeting places and forbid such gatherings of people in cemeteries? In the media no reference appears, one writes funeral service. And everyone now suspects normal citizens that once again they did not follow the rules.
Another point is the terrible conditions in schools. Our children sit in front of open windows in the cold in class. They are now allowed to put on woollen blankets and jackets. Many children are now ill, but not from corona but from freezing. That is not normal. Do they want to kill our children?
People are angry and they are getting angrier and angrier. Many also become awake and critical through the anger. This is a good sign, but it also means a certain danger. The existential fear due to planned company closures has increased greatly. In addition, there is a very high number of separations from marriages in my environment. It is all becoming too much for people.
WHO is a criminal organisation, no matter what they say or not. In that case, what they say is to enforce, as I understand, the idea that lockdowns are a bad idea (contradicting themselves but they don't care) and that another solution is vaccination, instead of lockdowns. Devil has many ways to say things, to insinuated things, to tempt you. Devil is a good actor, a good comedian and one of his roles is to give the idea he is a good guy. He is an hypocrite, and a liar. So is WHO, the most devilish organisation on the earth now.
Finally got an English video from Dr. Rainer Fuellmich found. The lawyer who, together with the Corona Investigation Committee he founded, prepares the class action against the Robert Koch Institute.
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Covid-19 : ce que l'on sait sur les perquisitions chez Véran, Philippe, Ndiaye et Buzyn
Ces perquisitions chez le ministre de la Santé et d'autres responsables ont été menées dans le cadre de l'enquête sur la gestion de la crise sanitaire.
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Covid-19 : ce que l'on sait sur les perquisitions chez Véran, Philippe, Ndiaye et Buzyn
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Olivier Véran, le ministre de la Santé lors d'un point de presse à l'Elysée, le 27 mai 2020
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Ces perquisitions chez le ministre de la Santé et d'autres responsables ont été menées dans le cadre de l'enquête sur la gestion de la crise sanitaire.
Des perquisitions ont eu lieu ce jeudi matin aux domiciles et bureaux du ministre de la Santé Olivier Véran dans le cadre d'une information judiciaire ouverte par la Cour de justice de la République (CJR) sur la gestion de la crise du coronavirus, a annoncé le ministère dans un communiqué. Elles ont également concerné d'autres responsables politiques et personnalités de premier plan dans cette crise sanitaire.
- Qui est concerné ?
D'autres perquisitions ont été menées chez le directeur général de la Santé Jérôme Salomon et la directrice générale de Santé Publique France, Geneviève Chêne. Ces opérations se sont déroulées "sans difficulté", a-t-on fait savoir de même source. Elles ont également été menées aux domiciles ou dans les bureaux d'Édouard Philippe, Agnès Buzyn, et Sibeth Ndiaye. Selon l'entourage d'Édouard Philippe, la perquisition s'est déroulée "de façon très courtoise et avec la pleine coopération du maire" du Havre. "Édouard Philippe a toujours dit qu'il se tenait à disposition de la justice", a-t-on souligné de même source.
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Ces perquisitions ont été réalisées par les gendarmes de l'OCLAESP (Office central de lutte contre les atteintes à l'environnement et à la santé publique) et des policiers de l'OCLCIFF (Office central de lutte contre la corruption et les infractions financières et fiscales), ont précisé des sources proches du dossier.
Jean Castex a affirmé ce jeudi sa confiance "totale" dans le ministre de la Santé Olivier Véran, dont le domicile et les bureaux ont fait l'objet de perquisitions le matin même. "Vous comprendrez qu'il ne m'appartient absolument pas de commenter les décisions d'une autorité judiciaire", a ajouté le Premier ministre, en soulignant qu'Olivier Véran "bénéficie d'une totale présomption d'innocence".
- Pourquoi ces perquisitions ont-elles été réalisées ?
Une information judiciaire avait été ouverte le 7 juillet pour "abstention de combattre un sinistre" et confiée à la commission d'instruction de la CJR, qui agit comme un juge d'instruction et mène les investigations. LIRE AUSSI >> Le rapport Pittet pointe les "défauts de gestion" de la crise sanitaire
Au total, depuis le début de la crise du coronavirus, 90 plaintes contre des ministres avaient été adressées à la CJR, seule instance habilitée à juger les membres du gouvernement pour l'exercice de leur fonction. Seulement neuf d'entre elles avaient été jugées recevables, visant, outre Olivier Véran, l'ancien Premier ministre Édouard Philippe ou encore l'ex-ministre de la Santé Agnès Buzyn ou l'ex-porte-parole du gouvernement Sibeth Ndiaye.
- Sur quoi portent ces plaintes ?
Les auditions des plaignants, parmi lesquels des représentants du collectif de médecins C19, ont démarré début septembre. Ceux-ci fustigent notamment "l'incohérence des mesures" prises au sommet de l'Etat ou encore "l'absence d'application des recommandations de l'OMS". De son côté, le parquet de Paris, qui a reçu plusieurs dizaines de plaintes ciblant parfois des responsables de l'administration, a ouvert le 9 juin une vaste enquête préliminaire, notamment pour "homicides involontaires" ou "mise en danger de la vie d'autrui".
Et, le collectif Victimes Coronavirus France, qui réunit 200 personnes, a visé mi-septembre le Premier ministre Jean Castex d'une plainte devant la CJR, estimant que le gouvernement continuait de "naviguer à vue" face à l'épidémie.
- Quelles sont les réactions politiques ?
"Ça n'est pas l'urgence aujourd'hui, on doit lutter contre la deuxième vague et je ne suis pas persuadé qu'on doive perdre du temps avec ça", a réagi sur BFMTV le président de l'UDI Jean-Christophe Lagarde, qui ne croit "pas à la responsabilité pénale des ministres dans cette affaire".
"Je vois vraiment dans cette perquisition ordonnée au lendemain de la déclaration du président de la République par les plus hauts magistrats une vraie déclaration de guerre de la justice au pouvoir politique", a estimé sur LCI Gilbert Collard, député européen proche du RN.
"Je ne trouve pas que ces perquisitions soient opportunes, il y a une judiciarisation de la vie politique. C'est plus une mise en scène qu'autre chose", a déploré sur LCI le député LFI Éric Coquerel.
"C'est la procédure normale" et "ça prouve qu'il n'y a pas deux justices à deux vitesses", a souligné de son côté sur BFMTV la députée (LREM) du Tarn Marie-Christine Verdier-Jouclas, qui ne "voudrait pas qu'on brouille le message le plus important : ce que nous a dit le président hier soir."
- Et du côté de la justice ?
Des avocats, dont les plaintes ont été jugées recevables par la CJR, se sont au contraire félicités de "la célérité" des investigations. "L'enquête semble aller dans le sens d'une totale indépendance, c'est important compte tenu des mis en cause et de la gravité des faits", a observé Me Nabil Boudi. "On voit que la CJR fonctionne, et que dépendre d'une procédure à part ne veut point dire bénéficier d'une quelconque impunité", a estimé Me Fabrice Di Vizio, qui défend le collectif de médecins C19. LIRE NOTRE DOSSIER COMPLET
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Covid-19: what we know about the searches at Véran, Philippe, Ndiaye and Buzyn's homes
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published on 15/10/2020 at 10:14 , updated at 17:27
Olivier Véran, the Minister of Health at a press briefing at the Elysée Palace, May 27, 2020Olivier Véran, the Minister of Health at a press briefing at the Elysée Palace, May 27, 2020 afp.com/Ludovic Marin
These searches of the Minister of Health and other officials were conducted as part of the investigation into the management of the health crisis.
Searches took place this Thursday morning at the homes and offices of Health Minister Olivier Véran as part of a judicial inquiry opened by the Court of Justice of the Republic (CJR) on the management of the coronavirus crisis, the ministry announced in a statement. They also concerned other political leaders and leading personalities in this health crisis.
Who is concerned?
Other searches were carried out at the homes of the Director General of Health Jérôme Salomon and the Director General of Public Health France, Geneviève Chêne. These operations were carried out "without difficulty", it was reported from the same source. They were also carried out at the homes or offices of Édouard Philippe, Agnès Buzyn, and Sibeth Ndiaye.
According to Édouard Philippe's entourage, the search was conducted "in a very courteous manner and with the full cooperation of the mayor" of Le Havre. "Édouard Philippe always said that he was at the disposal of justice," the same source said.
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These searches were carried out by OCLAESP (Central Office for the Fight against Environmental and Public Health Violations) gendarmes and OCLCIFF (Central Office for the Fight against Corruption and Financial and Fiscal Infractions) police officers, sources close to the case said.
Jean Castex affirmed this Thursday his "total" confidence in Health Minister Olivier Véran, whose home and offices were searched the same morning. "You will understand that it is absolutely not for me to comment on the decisions of a judicial authority," added the Prime Minister, stressing that Olivier Véran "enjoys a full presumption of innocence.
Why were these searches carried out?
A judicial inquiry had been opened on July 7 for "refraining from fighting a disaster" and entrusted to the CJR's investigating commission, which acts as an examining magistrate and conducts the investigations.
READ MORE >> The Pittet report points out the "management failures" of the health crisis
In total, since the beginning of the coronavirus crisis, 90 complaints against ministers had been made to the CJR, the only body empowered to judge members of the government for the performance of their duties. Only nine of these complaints had been deemed admissible, involving, in addition to Olivier Véran, former Prime Minister Édouard Philippe, former Health Minister Agnès Buzyn and former government spokesperson Sibeth Ndiaye.
What are these complaints about?
Hearings of the plaintiffs, including representatives of the C19 doctors' collective, began in early September. They criticize in particular the "inconsistency of the measures" taken at the State summit and the "lack of application of the WHO recommendations".
For its part, the Paris Public Prosecutor's Office, which received several dozen complaints sometimes targeting administrative officials, opened a vast preliminary investigation on June 9, notably for "manslaughter" or "endangering the lives of others".
In mid-September, the Victimes Coronavirus France collective, which brings together 200 people, targeted Prime Minister Jean Castex with a complaint before the CJR, believing that the government was continuing to "navigate on sight" in the face of the epidemic.
What are the political reactions?
"It is not urgent today, we must fight against the second wave and I am not convinced that we should waste time with that", reacted on BFMTV the president of the UDI Jean-Christophe Lagarde, who does not believe "in the criminal responsibility of ministers in this case".
"I really see in this search ordered the day after the declaration of the President of the Republic by the highest magistrates a real declaration of war of justice to the political power", estimated on LCI Gilbert Collard, European deputy close to the RN.
"I do not find that these searches are opportune, there is a judicialization of political life. It's more a staging than anything else", deplored on LCI the deputy LFI Eric Coquerel.
"It is the normal procedure" and "it proves that there are not two speeds of justice", stressed on BFMTV the deputy (LREM) of Tarn Marie-Christine Verdier-Jouclas, who would not "want that one
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Ah, the program is working.
Instead of blaming politicians or the power brokers for creating ridiculous rules based on shady science and driven by a very evil agenda you're now blaming.... Kurds!
I fully expect, as is always the case, the politicians to find a scapegoat which will get the blunt of the blame from the public.
Usually but not always this has been those considered to be foreigners so in that respect, I'm not surprised you're zeroing in on a particular group to put your blame in
Thank you Perlou for the information. But usually these type of action are there to enforce the situation. Not to criticize what is the real problem. The real problem is the subject of the lockdown and this is not what justice try to see . In fact the article is telling to the public that what these people should have donne is follow the devilish advice of the WHO.Covid-19 : ce que l'on sait sur les perquisitions chez Véran, Philippe, Ndiaye et Buzyn
Ces perquisitions chez le ministre de la Santé et d'autres responsables ont été menées dans le cadre de l'enquête sur la gestion de la crise sanitaire.www.lexpress.fr
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Covid-19 : ce que l'on sait sur les perquisitions chez Véran, Philippe, Ndiaye et Buzyn
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Olivier Véran, le ministre de la Santé lors d'un point de presse à l'Elysée, le 27 mai 2020
afp.com/Ludovic Marin
Ces perquisitions chez le ministre de la Santé et d'autres responsables ont été menées dans le cadre de l'enquête sur la gestion de la crise sanitaire.
Des perquisitions ont eu lieu ce jeudi matin aux domiciles et bureaux du ministre de la Santé Olivier Véran dans le cadre d'une information judiciaire ouverte par la Cour de justice de la République (CJR) sur la gestion de la crise du coronavirus, a annoncé le ministère dans un communiqué. Elles ont également concerné d'autres responsables politiques et personnalités de premier plan dans cette crise sanitaire.
D'autres perquisitions ont été menées chez le directeur général de la Santé Jérôme Salomon et la directrice générale de Santé Publique France, Geneviève Chêne. Ces opérations se sont déroulées "sans difficulté", a-t-on fait savoir de même source. Elles ont également été menées aux domiciles ou dans les bureaux d'Édouard Philippe, Agnès Buzyn, et Sibeth Ndiaye.
- Qui est concerné ?
Selon l'entourage d'Édouard Philippe, la perquisition s'est déroulée "de façon très courtoise et avec la pleine coopération du maire" du Havre. "Édouard Philippe a toujours dit qu'il se tenait à disposition de la justice", a-t-on souligné de même source.
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Ces perquisitions ont été réalisées par les gendarmes de l'OCLAESP (Office central de lutte contre les atteintes à l'environnement et à la santé publique) et des policiers de l'OCLCIFF (Office central de lutte contre la corruption et les infractions financières et fiscales), ont précisé des sources proches du dossier.
Jean Castex a affirmé ce jeudi sa confiance "totale" dans le ministre de la Santé Olivier Véran, dont le domicile et les bureaux ont fait l'objet de perquisitions le matin même. "Vous comprendrez qu'il ne m'appartient absolument pas de commenter les décisions d'une autorité judiciaire", a ajouté le Premier ministre, en soulignant qu'Olivier Véran "bénéficie d'une totale présomption d'innocence".
Une information judiciaire avait été ouverte le 7 juillet pour "abstention de combattre un sinistre" et confiée à la commission d'instruction de la CJR, qui agit comme un juge d'instruction et mène les investigations.
- Pourquoi ces perquisitions ont-elles été réalisées ?
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Au total, depuis le début de la crise du coronavirus, 90 plaintes contre des ministres avaient été adressées à la CJR, seule instance habilitée à juger les membres du gouvernement pour l'exercice de leur fonction. Seulement neuf d'entre elles avaient été jugées recevables, visant, outre Olivier Véran, l'ancien Premier ministre Édouard Philippe ou encore l'ex-ministre de la Santé Agnès Buzyn ou l'ex-porte-parole du gouvernement Sibeth Ndiaye.
Les auditions des plaignants, parmi lesquels des représentants du collectif de médecins C19, ont démarré début septembre. Ceux-ci fustigent notamment "l'incohérence des mesures" prises au sommet de l'Etat ou encore "l'absence d'application des recommandations de l'OMS".
- Sur quoi portent ces plaintes ?
De son côté, le parquet de Paris, qui a reçu plusieurs dizaines de plaintes ciblant parfois des responsables de l'administration, a ouvert le 9 juin une vaste enquête préliminaire, notamment pour "homicides involontaires" ou "mise en danger de la vie d'autrui".
Et, le collectif Victimes Coronavirus France, qui réunit 200 personnes, a visé mi-septembre le Premier ministre Jean Castex d'une plainte devant la CJR, estimant que le gouvernement continuait de "naviguer à vue" face à l'épidémie.
- Quelles sont les réactions politiques ?
"Ça n'est pas l'urgence aujourd'hui, on doit lutter contre la deuxième vague et je ne suis pas persuadé qu'on doive perdre du temps avec ça", a réagi sur BFMTV le président de l'UDI Jean-Christophe Lagarde, qui ne croit "pas à la responsabilité pénale des ministres dans cette affaire".
"Je vois vraiment dans cette perquisition ordonnée au lendemain de la déclaration du président de la République par les plus hauts magistrats une vraie déclaration de guerre de la justice au pouvoir politique", a estimé sur LCI Gilbert Collard, député européen proche du RN.
"Je ne trouve pas que ces perquisitions soient opportunes, il y a une judiciarisation de la vie politique. C'est plus une mise en scène qu'autre chose", a déploré sur LCI le député LFI Éric Coquerel.
"C'est la procédure normale" et "ça prouve qu'il n'y a pas deux justices à deux vitesses", a souligné de son côté sur BFMTV la députée (LREM) du Tarn Marie-Christine Verdier-Jouclas, qui ne "voudrait pas qu'on brouille le message le plus important : ce que nous a dit le président hier soir."
Des avocats, dont les plaintes ont été jugées recevables par la CJR, se sont au contraire félicités de "la célérité" des investigations. "L'enquête semble aller dans le sens d'une totale indépendance, c'est important compte tenu des mis en cause et de la gravité des faits", a observé Me Nabil Boudi. "On voit que la CJR fonctionne, et que dépendre d'une procédure à part ne veut point dire bénéficier d'une quelconque impunité", a estimé Me Fabrice Di Vizio, qui défend le collectif de médecins C19.
- Et du côté de la justice ?
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"Ces investigations, nous l'espérons, permettront de saisir les documents qui prouvent que certains membres du gouvernement ont commis l'infraction d'abstention volontaire de combattre un sinistre", a réagi Me Yassine Bouzrou, avocat d'un syndicat policier et des enfants d'un homme mort du coronavirus, saluant l'"indépendance" de la CJR.
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Covid-19: what we know about the searches at Véran, Philippe, Ndiaye and Buzyn's homes
D.P. with AFP,
published on 15/10/2020 at 10:14 , updated at 17:27
Olivier Véran, the Minister of Health at a press briefing at the Elysée Palace, May 27, 2020Olivier Véran, the Minister of Health at a press briefing at the Elysée Palace, May 27, 2020 afp.com/Ludovic Marin
These searches of the Minister of Health and other officials were conducted as part of the investigation into the management of the health crisis.
Searches took place this Thursday morning at the homes and offices of Health Minister Olivier Véran as part of a judicial inquiry opened by the Court of Justice of the Republic (CJR) on the management of the coronavirus crisis, the ministry announced in a statement. They also concerned other political leaders and leading personalities in this health crisis.
Who is concerned?
Other searches were carried out at the homes of the Director General of Health Jérôme Salomon and the Director General of Public Health France, Geneviève Chêne. These operations were carried out "without difficulty", it was reported from the same source. They were also carried out at the homes or offices of Édouard Philippe, Agnès Buzyn, and Sibeth Ndiaye.
According to Édouard Philippe's entourage, the search was conducted "in a very courteous manner and with the full cooperation of the mayor" of Le Havre. "Édouard Philippe always said that he was at the disposal of justice," the same source said.
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These searches were carried out by OCLAESP (Central Office for the Fight against Environmental and Public Health Violations) gendarmes and OCLCIFF (Central Office for the Fight against Corruption and Financial and Fiscal Infractions) police officers, sources close to the case said.
Jean Castex affirmed this Thursday his "total" confidence in Health Minister Olivier Véran, whose home and offices were searched the same morning. "You will understand that it is absolutely not for me to comment on the decisions of a judicial authority," added the Prime Minister, stressing that Olivier Véran "enjoys a full presumption of innocence.
Why were these searches carried out?
A judicial inquiry had been opened on July 7 for "refraining from fighting a disaster" and entrusted to the CJR's investigating commission, which acts as an examining magistrate and conducts the investigations.
READ MORE >> The Pittet report points out the "management failures" of the health crisis
In total, since the beginning of the coronavirus crisis, 90 complaints against ministers had been made to the CJR, the only body empowered to judge members of the government for the performance of their duties. Only nine of these complaints had been deemed admissible, involving, in addition to Olivier Véran, former Prime Minister Édouard Philippe, former Health Minister Agnès Buzyn and former government spokesperson Sibeth Ndiaye.
What are these complaints about?
Hearings of the plaintiffs, including representatives of the C19 doctors' collective, began in early September. They criticize in particular the "inconsistency of the measures" taken at the State summit and the "lack of application of the WHO recommendations".
For its part, the Paris Public Prosecutor's Office, which received several dozen complaints sometimes targeting administrative officials, opened a vast preliminary investigation on June 9, notably for "manslaughter" or "endangering the lives of others".
In mid-September, the Victimes Coronavirus France collective, which brings together 200 people, targeted Prime Minister Jean Castex with a complaint before the CJR, believing that the government was continuing to "navigate on sight" in the face of the epidemic.
What are the political reactions?
"It is not urgent today, we must fight against the second wave and I am not convinced that we should waste time with that", reacted on BFMTV the president of the UDI Jean-Christophe Lagarde, who does not believe "in the criminal responsibility of ministers in this case".
"I really see in this search ordered the day after the declaration of the President of the Republic by the highest magistrates a real declaration of war of justice to the political power", estimated on LCI Gilbert Collard, European deputy close to the RN.
"I do not find that these searches are opportune, there is a judicialization of political life. It's more a staging than anything else", deplored on LCI the deputy LFI Eric Coquerel.
"It is the normal procedure" and "it proves that there are not two speeds of justice", stressed on BFMTV the deputy (LREM) of Tarn Marie-Christine Verdier-Jouclas, who would not "want that one
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These type of articles also try pretend that there is justice and that justice is doing a good job, when we know that is not true. Again the MSM is trying to make us see what is not the real drama: lockdowns and masks. Nobody is pursued for that. Maybe and surely many people put complain about this but it is not listening by justice.
Merci Perlou pour l'information. Cependant ce genre d'information est mise pour renforcer la situation présente. Et non pour critiquer cette situation, en fait. Le vrai drame que la justice devrait poursuivre est le confinement et l'état d'urgence qu'il y a eu. L'article ou les articles disent au lecteurs que ces ministres n'ont pas suivi correctement les conseils de la OMS.
Ces articles nous font croire qu'il y a justice quand nous savons pertinemment que la justice n'existe pas. De nouveau les Mainstream Media essaient de camoufler le vrai drame : le confinement et les masques. Aucun ministre n'est poursuivi pour ces raisons. Surement des citoyens ont porté des plaintes sur cela mais ces plaintes ne sont pas écoutées par la justice. Et ne le seront jamais.
Mais c'est intéressant de voir comment les MSM manipulent les gens, toujours et d'une façon très surnoise. Merci de nouveau pour l'information. Ça vaut la peine de lire cela.
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