Daily Nicotine Requirements according to blood type

Mr. Premise said:
Nienna Eluch said:
Nancy2feathers said:
O+
I smoke100% Organic American Spirit-Roll-Your-Own Tobacco. When I`m working, I`ll wait till the end of my work day to have a cig. When I`m not working, I love to smoke. On the weekends there is nothing better than a cig and a cup of tea to start the day!
I bought a woman`s slender smoking pipe. (I`m laughing to myself). I`m waiting for it to arrive in the mail. So I`m thinking cig tobacco (organic) and a little organic herbal blend(actual herb mix from Health food store) to cut it and not be so harsh. Any thoughts on the pipe tobacco? I want to smoke only organic tobacco. :cool2: ;D

I've smoked a pipe and used only 100% American Spirit. All the pipe tobaccos have been cured with sugars and fruit juices, which American Spirit personnel have told me their's is not cured with any sweeteners. That may not make a difference to you, though.

All tobacco has sugar in it to different degrees even if they don't add it. During the curing (drying) process the starches in the leaf are converted to sugar, making the smoke much less harsh. And the predominant variety in American Spirit, Virginia Flue Cured, has by far the highest sugar content due to the flue curing process which is designed to convert more starches to sugar.

If the sugar is in the leaves themselves, that's fine with me. Adding sugar to them is what I am not interested in. I don't think that American Spirit takes near as "sweet" as other tobaccos. But that's just me. And it probably is not a problem for most people. I'm just quirky that way. :)
 
Lilou said:
There is no need to see a doctor to find out your blood type. Just google "blood typing kit" and several pop up for around $10. I didn't know mine either, till I did it myself at home. I also did it for my kids.

You can likely find the kits in stores in your area, Nuke. Just search and you will find. :)

Thanks, Lilou! I'm having a 'duh' moment as I looked in DR stores before for that - and the DNA test just out of curiosity - but couldn't find either one. Should have looked on the net, will do that right now. :rolleyes:

Nancy2feathers said:
I bought a woman`s slender smoking pipe. (I`m laughing to myself). I`m waiting for it to arrive in the mail.

That's what I was thinking of getting! Oh, wait... :lol:
 
I bought 2 pipes but they were too small for enough baccy. I will get a larger one though as it is sooo difficult here to get organic papers and filters. So much quicker to just whip out a pipe and put some baccy in it. I have never been able to roll a cigarette by hand - believe me I have tried many times so have to resort to a rolling machine and carry all the paraphenelia around with me all the time.

I admire you guys that can go to work and not smoke. I doubt very much whether I would be able to do that anymore without climbing up the walls - especially the stress in work environments now or the ponorization. I really do not know how i would cope - just an outdoor job like car park attendant or rambling guide lol. At least here we dont have smoking bans in the street, cars or houses!

I dread going back to Europe etc for these reasons - let alone the plane journeys. However I have yet to try the electronic cigarettes - are they any good - very effective?

Am A+ and smoked since 14 except when pregnant. Up to 60 a day at 19 (if i went out in evening too) - in sales and hot middle east country - the hotter the more I smoke. Luckily Ifind it quite therapeutic to roll the cigs, make same size as normal cigs, so get through approx 50gr in about 2 days now.

I have to get friends to bring the baccy back over from the mainland for me - so get different qualities, by the kilo, which I blend myself to get the right strength and flavour.

Do have seeds, but also all the favourite nicotine plant pests too, so will be a work in progress. I know there are some good helpful threads and I have the great Bill Drake book on growing too.
 
Nienna Eluch said:
If the sugar is in the leaves themselves, that's fine with me. Adding sugar to them is what I am not interested in. I don't think that American Spirit takes near as "sweet" as other tobaccos. But that's just me. And it probably is not a problem for most people. I'm just quirky that way. :)

That's cool, if you prefer the taste of less sweet tobacco. I just wanted to point out that when you smoke tobacco with sugar in it, it's not like eating sugar. The sugar is destroyed in the combustion process, and never gets to your stomach anyway, but it does lower the pH of the smoke, making it smoother.

Now, those who make chewing tobacco or dip, the sugar in there would be bad for you. I have heard of one person who uses Xylitol to sweeten chewing tobacco.
 
Mac said:
I'm A negative.

When I started smoking whole leaf tobacco about a month ago coughing dwindled to near zero. Before, using Kentucky Select and American spirit I would cough hard a few times right after getting in bed or bending over.

I find I get the nicotine hungers about an hour and a half after the last smoke. More so in the mornings. Nicotine brightens my mood, helps me to be clearer headed. Moments with my pipe are some of the highlights of my day.

Mac

What kind of "whole leaf" tobacco did you switch to. I've been smoking the Kentucky Select for 2 years and have had increased mucus production during that time as well.
 
Mr. Premise said:
Nienna Eluch said:
Nancy2feathers said:
O+
I smoke100% Organic American Spirit-Roll-Your-Own Tobacco. When I`m working, I`ll wait till the end of my work day to have a cig. When I`m not working, I love to smoke. On the weekends there is nothing better than a cig and a cup of tea to start the day!
I bought a woman`s slender smoking pipe. (I`m laughing to myself). I`m waiting for it to arrive in the mail. So I`m thinking cig tobacco (organic) and a little organic herbal blend(actual herb mix from Health food store) to cut it and not be so harsh. Any thoughts on the pipe tobacco? I want to smoke only organic tobacco. :cool2: ;D

I've smoked a pipe and used only 100% American Spirit. All the pipe tobaccos have been cured with sugars and fruit juices, which American Spirit personnel have told me their's is not cured with any sweeteners. That may not make a difference to you, though.

All tobacco has sugar in it to different degrees even if they don't add it. During the curing (drying) process the starches in the leaf are converted to sugar, making the smoke much less harsh. And the predominant variety in American Spirit, Virginia Flue Cured, has by far the highest sugar content due to the flue curing process which is designed to convert more starches to sugar.

My question is, does burning during smoking convert sugar into some other compound, perhaps less detrimental than sugar?
 
[quote author=JGeropoulas]My question is, does burning during smoking convert sugar into some other compound, perhaps less detrimental than sugar?[/quote]

With complete combustion, which I’m assuming happens since the tobacco leaf burns completely, sugar converts to CO2 and H2O.
 
JGeropoulas said:
What kind of "whole leaf" tobacco did you switch to. I've been smoking the Kentucky Select for 2 years and have had increased mucus production during that time as well.

Check out:

_http://www.wholeleaftobacco.com
_http://whole-leaf-tobacco.myshopify.com
_http://www.leafonly.com

There might be some others, but you can buy whole tobacco leaves from one of those shops and process them at home. This has also been talked about on the "Smoking is...good?" thread, I believe. I personally have purchased from the first two and went with the first for my most recent purchase and have been happy with their products and service.
 
Jerry said:
[quote author=JGeropoulas]My question is, does burning during smoking convert sugar into some other compound, perhaps less detrimental than sugar?

With complete combustion, which I’m assuming happens since the tobacco leaf burns completely, sugar converts to CO2 and H2O.
[/quote]

My guess is that the sugars found naturally in the tobacco plant might burn up to release CO2 and H2O, but chemically processed sugar additives are probably a different ballgame. High fructose corn syrup is commonly used and releases a nasty chemical "hydroxymethylfurfural" when it's burned, which apparently kills honey bees. Agave syrup (hydrolyzed high fructose inulin syrup) is chemically processed so I have my concerns about that too.

edit:
here's some more info about hydroxymethylfurfural (HMF) from wikipedia:

HMF is practically not present in fresh food, but it is naturally generated in sugar-containing food during heat-treatments like drying or cooking. Along with many other flavor- and colour-related substances, HMF is formed in the Maillard reaction as well as during caramelization. In these foods it is also slowly generated during storage. Acid conditions favour generation of HMF.[9]

HMF can be found in low amounts in honey, fruit-juices and UHT-milk. Here as well as in vinegars, jams, alcoholic products or biscuits HMF can be used as an indicator for excess heat-treatment. For instance, fresh honey only has low amounts of HMF—less than 15 mg/kg—depending on pH-value and temperature and age,[10] and the codex alimentarius standard requires that honey have less than 40 mg/kg HMf to guarantee that the honey has not undergone heating during processing, except for tropical honeys which must be below 80 mg/kg.

Higher quantities of HMF are found naturally in coffee and dried fruit. Several types of roasted coffee contained between 300 – 2900 mg/kg HMF.[11] Dried plums were found to contain up to 2200 mg/kg HMF. In dark beer 13.3 mg/kg were found,[12] bakery-products contained between 4.1 – 151 mg/kg HMF.[13]
HMF can form in high-fructose corn syrup (HFCS), levels around 20 mg/kg HMF were found, increasing during storage or heating.[10] This is a problem for American beekeepers because they use HFCS as a source of sugar when there are not enough nectar sources to feed honeybees, and HMF is toxic to them. Adding bases such as soda ash or potash to neutralize the HFCS slows down the formation of HMF.[10]

Depending on production-technology and storage, levels in food vary considerably. To evaluate the contribution of a food to HMF intake, its consumption-pattern has to be considered. Coffee is the food that has a very high relevance in terms of levels of HMF and quantities consumed.

HMF is a natural component in heated food but usually present in low concentrations. The daily intake of HMF may underlie high variations due to individual consumption-patterns. It has been estimated that in a western diet, in the order of magnitude of 5 – 10 mg of HMF are ingested per day from food.[9]

In former times, HMF was used in food for flavoring purposes, but in Europe this practice now is suspended. HMF is also found in cigarette smoke.[14]
 
Mr. Premise said:
Aya said:
Me neither, I do not like the smell afterwards. After smoking, I usually wash my hands, brush my teeth, put some creams on hands and pop a xylitol mint in my mouth - so the smell is less noticeable for my coworkers.

I have not tried a pipe yet. I cannot wait to try one day.
note: I'm O+

The nice thing about pipes is you don't get that smell on your hands.

That's perfect!

happyliza said:
I dread going back to Europe etc for these reasons - let alone the plane journeys. However I have yet to try the electronic cigarettes - are they any good - very effective?

I tried an electric cigarette, it is not effective at all - unless if you just want to look like you are smoking like this... :cool2:
There are different kinds of flavours that you can choose for an electric version - mint, cinnamon, vanilla etc. However, it does not taste very much like the real mint or cinnamon as you expect. Electric cigarettes are for someone who satisfies mentally by just acting smoking. But you need to be careful, even if it is not a real cigarette, if you smoke it in a nonsmoking area, you might get into a trouble.

Foxx said:
JGeropoulas said:
What kind of "whole leaf" tobacco did you switch to. I've been smoking the Kentucky Select for 2 years and have had increased mucus production during that time as well.

Check out:

_http://www.wholeleaftobacco.com
_http://whole-leaf-tobacco.myshopify.com
_http://www.leafonly.com

There might be some others, but you can buy whole tobacco leaves from one of those shops and process them at home. This has also been talked about on the "Smoking is...good?" thread, I believe. I personally have purchased from the first two and went with the first for my most recent purchase and have been happy with their products and service.

Thanks for the info. I've also been smoking Kentucky for a long time and now it is time to try something new. For these products, it looks like that I need to get a leaf shuredder first. :)
 
Aya said:
happyliza said:
I dread going back to Europe etc for these reasons - let alone the plane journeys. However I have yet to try the electronic cigarettes - are they any good - very effective?

I tried an electric cigarette, it is not effective at all - unless if you just want to look like you are smoking like this... :cool2:
There are different kinds of flavours that you can choose for an electric version - mint, cinnamon, vanilla etc. However, it does not taste very much like the real mint or cinnamon as you expect. Electric cigarettes are for someone who satisfies mentally by just acting smoking. But you need to be careful, even if it is not a real cigarette, if you smoke it in a nonsmoking area, you might get into a trouble.

Then there is oral tobacco such as snus, which one can also make on one's own. This might not be for everybody - depends on taste - but for those who like it, it's likely the best smokeless tobacco, and can be used anywhere.
 
I got my Briar wood pipe in the mail yesterday. It`s exciting to experience something new.


It`s a little tricky getting the tobacco tamped just right! I was using the long wooden matches to start off with(until I can get a decent lighter without the flaming chemicals, so to speak)!


The organic American Spirit rolling tobacco is what I was using to roll cigs, so I gave that a shot with the pipe. Not bad. I felt a little light headed, but I guess it takes a little getting used to. :cool2:

Any thoughts about breaking in a new pipe?

 

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Aya said:
Thanks for the info. I've also been smoking Kentucky for a long time and now it is time to try something new. For these products, it looks like that I need to get a leaf shuredder first. :)

You can also cut the leaves with scissors--one of the websites should have some directions. You basically take out the stems and roll the leaves into a kind of semi-cigar and then try and cut thin strips diagonally on the roll. It's a bit difficult and is time consuming and I've historically ended up having little chunks of strips because they stick together a bit when cutting, which requires kind of mixing it together and separating them by hand.

For my most recent purchase, I decided to try a (new--definitely not used) pasta cutter. I got this one:

_http://www.amazon.com/Fantes-Great-Ginas-Pasta-Machine/dp/B00698PP5C/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1357309374&sr=8-1

but haven't tried it out yet so I can't comment on how good it is. I really haven't found a good, reasonably priced option for cutting the leaves. There's also this device:

_http://www.leafonly.com/tobacco_leaf_shredder_standard.php

I personally think it's kind of ridiculous that it costs $50.
 

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