Dental Health

Hello Everyone:

me too, I have 3 mercury fillings, and I wish I had the money to remove them, here in Los Angeles, CA. it is quite expensive to remove them, ironically when I got them they were really cheap, not knowing what I was getting myself into...
I don't feel any problems at this moment, but in the long run I'm kind of scared... :-[
 
hlat said:
I completed a DMSA detox cycle after every mercury removal.
https://cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php/topic,16812.0.html

Thanks for the link. I think I will go on a low dose heavy metal detox for a little while, will order some DSMA.

I should have done my research and prepared, I do feel like it was not done with full safety. These last couple of days I have been feeling off. Sometimes my arms feel weak or my whole body. I have been also having some back aches and feel a bit nauseous at work today. Ive read that after removal of mercury feelings, it takes two weeks for levels in the body to start declining. I am worred that maybe I have been exposed to a excess amount of mercury.

On the ioamt website it says "A nasal cannula that admits ambient air won’t help." What is ambient air? My dentist had oxygen coming from a tank into a nasal cannula. People with experince, do you feel like the measures taken were enough? I know its hard to say, just lookin for resurance for some peace of mind. Should have stuck to my gut feeling.

So people do get on a optimal diet and get as healthy as you can before removing them.
 
I have a quick question about dental health. After reading up on this thread and doing a bit of due diligence I'm left on the fence as to the importance of getting my wisdom teeth removed if I have no major issues with them. I visited the dentist a few weeks ago for a teeth cleaning and they did a yearly X-Ray. They said I have the early onset of gum disease, so basically bacteria has managed to grow underneath my gums which could cause problems later on.

On top of that they recommended I also get my wisdom teeth removed due to space issues and that if they were to do the deep cleaning, that if my wisdom teeth weren't removed, they would have to do a second cleaning. Why, I'm not sure. Although I have an appointment with the dentist today so I might question her further.

But it seems to me that if my wisdom teeth don't hurt, I don't have the gums growing over top of it, and the only issue with them being there is space, then they are recommending having this done to line their pockets, because even with my insurance benefits, getting both a deep cleaning and my wisdom teeth removed will cost thousands of dollars.

When I started going to the dentist 1 1/2 years ago, they did X-Rays and said my teeth were perfect other than the fact I needed to floss more and get regular cleanings. Part of my skepticism is also due to the fact that several other people I know were also told by this new hire at the dental office that they have early onset of gum disease as well. It seems a bit convenient that a completely new person would work on my teeth, do X-Rays and discover all these issues that will cost me an arm and a leg meanwhile a number of other people had similar recommendations. Anyone have any experience with situations like this or any advice?
 
I think a wise course of action is to get a second and maybe third opinion from a dentist in a different office.

Also, I think it would be better to keep your wisdom teeth that is not causing any real problems than to have them removed due to "space issues".

What kind of toothbrush and toothpaste do you use? My previous dentist recommended a Sonicare where the brush head oscillates sideways, and I've been very happy with it, compared to the Oral B I had before.
 
Sounds to me like they're just out for the bucks too Turgon. They probably figure it's a common procedure and you'll go for it not giving it a second thought. If they think it will cause problems down the road then tell them you'll deal with it then. I would have the cleaning done and call it a day. Funny they say you have the early onset of gum disease though cause my dentist told me that my gums have gotten much stronger since I've started the keto diet. Do you have sensitive spots or bleeding or something?

Maybe you should get a second opinion like hlat suggested. These new people may not be trustworthy at all. I also second the recommendation on the Sonicare toothbrush. It's less abrasive than the rotating Oral B and cleans just as well if not better imo.
 
Turgon said:
I have a quick question about dental health. After reading up on this thread and doing a bit of due diligence I'm left on the fence as to the importance of getting my wisdom teeth removed if I have no major issues with them. I visited the dentist a few weeks ago for a teeth cleaning and they did a yearly X-Ray. They said I have the early onset of gum disease, so basically bacteria has managed to grow underneath my gums which could cause problems later on.

On top of that they recommended I also get my wisdom teeth removed due to space issues and that if they were to do the deep cleaning, that if my wisdom teeth weren't removed, they would have to do a second cleaning. Why, I'm not sure. Although I have an appointment with the dentist today so I might question her further.

But it seems to me that if my wisdom teeth don't hurt, I don't have the gums growing over top of it, and the only issue with them being there is space, then they are recommending having this done to line their pockets, because even with my insurance benefits, getting both a deep cleaning and my wisdom teeth removed will cost thousands of dollars.

When I started going to the dentist 1 1/2 years ago, they did X-Rays and said my teeth were perfect other than the fact I needed to floss more and get regular cleanings. Part of my skepticism is also due to the fact that several other people I know were also told by this new hire at the dental office that they have early onset of gum disease as well. It seems a bit convenient that a completely new person would work on my teeth, do X-Rays and discover all these issues that will cost me an arm and a leg meanwhile a number of other people had similar recommendations. Anyone have any experience with situations like this or any advice?

Hey Turgon,

I would probably feel the same way as you do about this situation. It does seem to be a bit suspicious, as surely if there was something wrong, then you would feel pain, no? Then again, most people have no awareness that their diet is killing them and so don't do anything till it gets major etc.

I would get a second opinion too. 'Spacing' issues doesn't seem to me like a legitimate reason to pull otherwise healthy teeth. I wouldn't let them in your position, especially with it costing that much money!
 
Paragon said:
Hey Turgon,

I would probably feel the same way as you do about this situation. It does seem to be a bit suspicious, as surely if there was something wrong, then you would feel pain, no? Then again, most people have no awareness that their diet is killing them and so don't do anything till it gets major etc.

I would get a second opinion too. 'Spacing' issues doesn't seem to me like a legitimate reason to pull otherwise healthy teeth. I wouldn't let them in your position, especially with it costing that much money!

It sounds like a scam to me too. I'd get a second opinion. If you choose to stay with this dentist, tell them you want to keep your wisdom teeth. I'd even consider just a regular cleaning and see how things go (toothwise) from there.
 
Thanks for the advice, everyone.

Paragon said:
'Spacing' issues doesn't seem to me like a legitimate reason to pull otherwise healthy teeth

No it doesn't. I ended up having an hour long sit down with the dentist, she admitted her new hire took a far too aggressive approach. After going over the X-Rays it turns out that the only legitimate reasons they had for even removing the wisdom teeth were 1) "preventative" care, in case it were to get worse over time, and 2) to make cleaning under the gums easier at the back of my mouth. I opted out of this procedure after everything was said and done but decided to go for the root planing procedure (gum cleaning), which my insurance will cover 80% of.

Although it requires them to freeze my mouth by inserting a needle, which I'm not looking forward to! :scared:

Pete said:
Funny they say you have the early onset of gum disease though cause my dentist told me that my gums have gotten much stronger since I've started the keto diet. Do you have sensitive spots or bleeding or something?

I asked the dentist about this and we compared my 2013 X-Rays to the recent ones and there wasn't much change. There was slightly more decay inflammation occurring in certain areas, but not much. Being on the keto diet and having so little sugar on this diet, this is kind of surprising to me. I wonder if the fact that I still get inflammation periodically is a contributing factor, although I have started taking lactobacillus rhamnoses and seeing what effect that has. I have noticed a reduction in gut inflammation lately.

hlat said:
What kind of toothbrush and toothpaste do you use? My previous dentist recommended a Sonicare where the brush head oscillates sideways, and I've been very happy with it, compared to the Oral B I had before.

I use Tea Tree Oil and Neem toothpaste that contains essential oils and baking soda with a regular toothbrush. But I will look into the sonicare toothbrush and see what the prices and reviews are on it.

Thanks.
 
I have 3 that came out normal, and never bothered me, I even didn't know they were wisdom teeth until later :P
now i know.

But I had this last one, which made my life impossible for two weeks and wasn't even out. I left it untreated and the pain went away, just the sensation of the tooth now.

But now it broke the skin and you can see the side of the tooth through the broken skin, because it came out at an angle against the other one.



I don't know if I should just remove it, in case the pain suddenly appears, I still hold hopes the tooth will face up like all his brothers :lol2:

But I don't know..
 
Felipe4 said:
I don't know if I should just remove it, in case the pain suddenly appears, I still hold hopes the tooth will face up like all his brothers :lol2:

But I don't know..

When you get to the point about what you described with the last one I think its better to get it remove before start affecting the other teeth and you will avoid much pain in the future.. more like a "just in case" ;)
 
I guess i will have to.. Also the posibility of food getting stuck inside of the gum next to the tooth, may affect it from the inside.

I was watching tooth removal proceidures and found how people remove them themselves.

It's freaky.

In adition, i happen to have neck pains from a neck problem that i have, I also think the tooth is affecting my neck.....
 
Felipe4 said:
I guess i will have to.. Also the posibility of food getting stuck inside of the gum next to the tooth, may affect it from the inside.

I was watching tooth removal proceidures and found how people remove them themselves.

It's freaky.

In adition, i happen to have neck pains from a neck problem that i have, I also think the tooth is affecting my neck.....

Yup, tooth pain sometimes could give you headaches, general head pain and even fever sometimes, especially the wisdom ones..
 
I started smoking 3 years ago. 2 years ago I started smoking pipe. At that time I didn't wash my teeth exept with a licorice stick.
I didn't pay attention to the appearance of my teeth. Then, something like 1 years ago I realise that my teeth were black. I started to brush my teeth with home made toothpaste (half baking soda, half coconut oil or green clay, plus few drops of mint tree essential oil) and doing oil pulling with coconut oil before meal.

I didn't see much improvement.

I finally get to the dentist yesterday. He said he never saw anything like that in his 35 years career.

He started cleaning the teeth. I have another appointment in two month for him to finish the job.

I will try to stick to cigarillo for now and maybe start again to smoke the pipe tabacco in the form of cigarettes.
 
Turgon said:
Thanks for the advice, everyone.

Paragon said:
'Spacing' issues doesn't seem to me like a legitimate reason to pull otherwise healthy teeth

No it doesn't. I ended up having an hour long sit down with the dentist, she admitted her new hire took a far too aggressive approach. After going over the X-Rays it turns out that the only legitimate reasons they had for even removing the wisdom teeth were 1) "preventative" care, in case it were to get worse over time, and 2) to make cleaning under the gums easier at the back of my mouth. I opted out of this procedure after everything was said and done but decided to go for the root planing procedure (gum cleaning), which my insurance will cover 80% of.

Although it requires them to freeze my mouth by inserting a needle, which I'm not looking forward to! :scared:

I'm not a dentist or hygenist but to me, that comes across as BS. That's like saying well, your leg might get broken in the future, so to be on the safe side, let's amputate it and prevent that from happening, shall we. :lol:

I had veneers done when I was 19 (2009) because I had terrible looking twisted teeth. I, like many other people, hate needles and especially one that go into the mouth! My dentist used a special kind of needle that was not nearly as painful, more like when you dig a pentip into your skin (don't ask why lol!) for a while. I think it was called a 'magic wand needle'. He may or may not have that for you, but if he doesn't, then some numbing cream could do the trick! :)

Hope it all goes well for ya Turgon
 
Turgon said:
Thanks for the advice, everyone.

Paragon said:
'Spacing' issues doesn't seem to me like a legitimate reason to pull otherwise healthy teeth

No it doesn't. I ended up having an hour long sit down with the dentist, she admitted her new hire took a far too aggressive approach. After going over the X-Rays it turns out that the only legitimate reasons they had for even removing the wisdom teeth were 1) "preventative" care, in case it were to get worse over time, and 2) to make cleaning under the gums easier at the back of my mouth. I opted out of this procedure after everything was said and done but decided to go for the root planing procedure (gum cleaning), which my insurance will cover 80% of.

Although it requires them to freeze my mouth by inserting a needle, which I'm not looking forward to! :scared:

Pete said:
Funny they say you have the early onset of gum disease though cause my dentist told me that my gums have gotten much stronger since I've started the keto diet. Do you have sensitive spots or bleeding or something?

I asked the dentist about this and we compared my 2013 X-Rays to the recent ones and there wasn't much change. There was slightly more decay inflammation occurring in certain areas, but not much. Being on the keto diet and having so little sugar on this diet, this is kind of surprising to me. I wonder if the fact that I still get inflammation periodically is a contributing factor, although I have started taking lactobacillus rhamnoses and seeing what effect that has. I have noticed a reduction in gut inflammation lately.

hlat said:
What kind of toothbrush and toothpaste do you use? My previous dentist recommended a Sonicare where the brush head oscillates sideways, and I've been very happy with it, compared to the Oral B I had before.

I use Tea Tree Oil and Neem toothpaste that contains essential oils and baking soda with a regular toothbrush. But I will look into the sonicare toothbrush and see what the prices and reviews are on it.

Thanks.

After countless dental issues requiring the numbing/freezing, my coping included deep breathing with eyes shut! It may sound simplistic but it

worked for me.
 
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