Dental Health

truth seeker said:
So funny that y'all mention Earthpaste, I just bought the lemon flavor a week ago. It was the least expensive of the bunch and I liked the idea of actually being able to ingest it without worry.

Earthpaste is the one that I'm using too and it is so far, the only natural one that I found without glycerin. And indeed we can swallow it without any problems.

truth seeker said:
I would like to start making my own however, so thanks for the recipes and links.


Here's a good recipe: _http://www.keeperofthehome.org/2012/10/homemade-clay-toothpaste.html
 
About erythritol as compared to xylitol and sorbitol in helping to prevent biofilm build up, here's the research paper - most all of that is way over my head except the basic layman summary aspects in various areas of the document:

__http://www.researchgate.net/publication/253332460_Erythritol_alters_microstructure_and_metabolomic_profiles_of_biofilm_composed_of_Streptococcus_gordonii_and_Porphyromonas_gingivalis

3D Student said:
It might be a good idea to add colloidal silver to your homemade toothpaste. That would help in killing bacteria. Also, several sources say to not use metal with bentonite, because it will leech it. I bought some bamboo spice spoons for scooping the paste I haven't made yet. :P

I thought of adding c-silver, and betonite binds to metals and I wondered if it'd be pointless to add the silver. Today I found this paper below that explains that in terms of colloidal silver, silver ions are positively charged while silver molecules are negatively charged. One or both may be present in a solution, I guess depending on how it was made.

__https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&q=cache:3ZV-s_NqIr0J:www.silver-colloids.com/Papers/IonsAtoms%26ChargedParticles.PDF+colloidal+Silver+negative+charge&hl=en&gl=us&pid=bl&srcid=ADGEESj9J0iaQAmFDqiSYrX0IAgP7ccVZpmYIRgBBJ-tug0oRW2eF9OBgj3N4bRt0bQ2eF2R7vOvDsm61VLKmoWd2GdYGzqPhZvFJ6ekex4HLdHZEu3Rs3NFcSTcDG2Z1J0uRMRP5tx4&sig=AHIEtbSSxsBTLUBpxmVhnYWm0pDq-KgCmQ

Also found some info that says betonite is negatively charged, and that is supposedly why it binds to metals that are positively charged, so it seems to me that the silver ions would bind to the betonite while the silver molecules would not.

I don't know much of anything about molecular chemistry, I'm just basing the thoughts on what I know of electrical stuff. In other words I may be totally wrong.
 
I went to a biological dentist to treat the abscess described here. This was after the first dentist I went to in a panic drilled a hole in my tooth to drain it, but was insistent that mercury fillings were safe. Specifically, when I brought the topic up, he asked in a condescending tone, "Are you a dentist?" After I said no he "informed" me; "You can't believe everything you read online." I didn't have the nerve or presence to walk out, and he drilled a hole to drain the infection, and seemed to be surprised I felt no pain as he drilled out the root. (I have wondered since whether he was hoping I'd feel pain. I'm not sure he gave me any anesthesia.) Then he prescribed me an evil fluoride-containing antibiotic (which I didn't take). See the problems not being able to stand up to anybody can cause!

I dropped him and went to the biological dentist, but I never felt completely safe there, either. The female dentist seemed somewhat worn-out, tired, or low on energy. It seemed hard to engage her with my concerns. She seemed like a good choice in theory; she had all the equipment for mercury removal, and good books in the office like one called "The Salt Lie(or Myth, or something similar)", and "Nutrition and Physical Degeneration" by Weston A. Price and the Price-Pottenger Nutrition Foundation.

After putting a "temporary" resin filling (she said that they can actually last a long time or even indefinitely), got me on some chlorella and liposomal glutathione, as well as giving me some homeopathic supplements and suggesting oil-pulling (which I had already started doing in response to my research), she suggested ozone therapy, which we tried, but it did not defeat the infection (the abscess continued until just a few months ago, when it retreated on its own). In fact, it seems to have caused some nerve damage in the area; that tooth has felt strange ever since, and I noticed a slight change in my smile; I'm guessing that a motor nerve was damaged. Luckily it's not noticeable to others. It was not a cheap therapy, and insurance didn't cover it! In the end, she said if the therapy didn't work, it would require a root canal, which was by then not affordable to us.

Long story short; if you're afraid to act in your own favor regarding doctors and dentists, you're in for it!

The book Crucial Conversations might help in dealing with the difficulties of discussing concerns and wishes with doctors and dentists. Not to mention all of the psychology books and EE, to help with emotional preparedness. I seems to be stronger than I was before.

My 2 cents.
 
Root canals are bad, I agree. But in some cases you either need that, or a more complicated implant procedure.
In high school, I was pushed into a wall and my 2 front teeth broke, one with the root sticking out, the other badly cracked exposing the nerve.
Pretty traumatic, and still scored very well on a college AP test that day (in shock).

Even if I knew what I know now, I still would have got those 2 root canals, titanium posts, and caps put on. Some teeth are so critical that pulling them is not worth it.

+10 to researching and not trusting everything dentists say, even holistic ones

About a year and a half ago, my previous dentist fixed a few bad fillings (white ones). I had to go to him because one was critical it was cracked and I couldn't find a good holistic dentist here that had available appointments for my work hours.

Afterwards, one was sore a bit and the other gave me pain for a week, excruciating with cold or hot and it was one of the main molars.

I went back and complained. He said I may need a root canal, I said no, I just want to try something else, and see if the root stops being inflamed.

He put in a temporary medicated filling. In the course of a week, it felt better and then one day at work, it had a HUGE amount of pain, which suddenly went away in the afternoon. I went to get the medicated filling replaced and I smelled something familiar! I asked him what it was and he said eugenol, the ingredient in cloves! Wow, amazing- cloves being anti-microbial!

Recently though, the tooth became very sensitive and gum inflamed by it.
I found an older thread on this forum where Laura mentions using DMSO and spitting it out. I decided to mix liquid COq10, which my father has used to reverse his gum problems with the DMSO and soak that side inside my mouth for a half hour and spit it out. I also did salt water rinses.

I was prepared to go to the dentist if swelling didn't subside, or if i got a fever. My neck was a little sore by the lymph nodes and I was checking on that too.
The next day it was almost painless!
I don't think even holistic dentists would know or be able to use DMSO in their treatments (thanks to the FDA).

But yeah, I need to find a good holistic dentist too... is there a website that lists ones that are "certified" or something?
Sometimes like hlat noticed, they use the term holistic, but just take some classes to get that "status".
 
Hi, I will be making a intro post soon but I had a quick question. How bad is it if one has swallowd a mercury filling? I think I might have swallowd a little bit, most of it I spat out. I have been finding conficting answers on the internet about it. I have an appointment with a dentist on Friday.
 
Maybe others will have a better answer regarding the ingestion of a mercury filling, but it is possible that it would just pass thru. OSIT.

I look forward to your intro post and best of luck at the dentist. :)
 
Lilou said:
Maybe others will have a better answer regarding the ingestion of a mercury filling, but it is possible that it would just pass thru. OSIT.

I look forward to your intro post and best of luck at the dentist. :)

Yes Ive done more research and called a holstic denistry office, it should pass with minimal harm. I should have bern more concise with the post, was at work and panicked. Thanks for your help.
 
thanks for all the great info in this thread!

I've just returned form the dentist, who specializes in amalgam removal. It's going to be very expensive, but, worth it I think. I'm still waiting on results from hair and blood tests to see what my heavy metal (mercury) levels are like.

The dentist basically told me that the smaller ones can be replaced with the composite and the larger ones will need ceramic. He does offer the full service as in very high pressure suction, mouth damn and oxygen for the nose for the procedure(s) (I'm doing it in four parts).

I have been looking at chelating mercury, and will discuss selenium, Vit C and other things mentioned in this thread with my naturopath to see what she can provide me with.

Is there any benefit in doing the procedures all at once? He did say he can do bigger sessions and get things done in maybe two sessions, but recommends four.
 
987baz said:
The dentist basically told me that the smaller ones can be replaced with the composite and the larger ones will need ceramic. He does offer the full service as in very high pressure suction, mouth damn and oxygen for the nose for the procedure(s) (I'm doing it in four parts).

I have been looking at chelating mercury, and will discuss selenium, Vit C and other things mentioned in this thread with my naturopath to see what she can provide me with.

Is there any benefit in doing the procedures all at once? He did say he can do bigger sessions and get things done in maybe two sessions, but recommends four.
I had my mercury removed in four sessions, one quadrant at a time. The sessions were spaced out in time too. After each session, I completed a cycle of DMSA detoxification. https://cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php/topic,16812.0.html
 
I had my four removed in two sessions, two at a time. I guess it depends on how big a job it is and what the dentist thinks you can handle or what's best for you. I don't take any Novocaine or numbing agent and told my guy to just rip into it so he figured he could get more done at one time. Another thing was that he wrote them all off as fillings, since technically that's what they were, and my insurance covered the whole thing so it might be worth it to discuss with your dentist. Some go for it, others won't. Good luck with everything! :)
 
I had my mercury removed in four sessions, one quadrant at a time. The sessions were spaced out in time too. After each session, I completed a cycle of DMSA detoxification. https://cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php/topic,16812.0.html

Thanks hlat, I'll check out the thread. Yes looks like, I will do it in 4 sessions as well. I think that will be best for me.

I had my four removed in two sessions, two at a time. I guess it depends on how big a job it is and what the dentist thinks you can handle or what's best for you. I don't take any Novocaine or numbing agent and told my guy to just rip into it so he figured he could get more done at one time. Another thing was that he wrote them all off as fillings, since technically that's what they were, and my insurance covered the whole thing so it might be worth it to discuss with your dentist. Some go for it, others won't. Good luck with everything! :)

Thanks Pete, i will have a chat to him and see if he goes for it, appreciate the advice :cool2:
 
I want to share my experience with the EDTA treatment and my gums .... I did the EDTA treatment to reduce iron levels in my blood for a year with their breaks between cycles. At the beginning I did not find a relationship with EDTA treatment and the problems in my gums, about 2 or 3 months before finishing it was when I noticed that my gums were weakened when I was in treatment. During that year I had several visits to the dentist and some of the work had very bad results because my gum was weakened, it was as if I lost the defenses to deal with than usual might be in my mouth. In fact my test was 100% when I visited to the periodontist for problems with a bag that was made in a root of a tooth which coincided with the end of EDTA. The doctor did cleaning and quote me for 2 weeks later to have minor surgery to close the bag. When I arrived and finished 2 weeks of EDTA the doctor told me I had 100% healed the bag it had given so much trouble for 2 months .... Now I'm not in my treatment I feel stronger and healthier gums. Scientifically I can not assure you that there is a weak correlation between EDTA and gum, just wanted to share my experience.
Regards
Dulce
 
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