Dental Health

I havent read this thread but will after I write this post as I would like opinions.

I am just back from the dentist. First visit in about 5 years. I've got a few mercury fillings already and knew one of my wisdom teeth were bad. It was just a checkup with the intention of getting teeth fixed if they needed it and mercury fillings replaced with non mercury fillings. I got my checkup and was told I needed a couple of more fillings and the wisdom tooth pulled. Ok thats fine. But while he was more than happy to replace mercury fillings he said the tests showed that the procedure of removing mercury fillings put more mercury in the body than just leaving them there. The NHS pay for fillings but only if they are mercury otherwise you have to go private!!! He also said that smoking was bad for gums and caused them to recede and that I should stop. So two fillings, a tooth pulled and old mercury fillings replaced is gonna cost me £280.

So should I get my mercury fillings replaced? Is smoking harmful to my gums even though good for brain?

Thanks.

Now off to read this thread from start then Yoga!
 
mugatea said:
So two fillings, a tooth pulled and old mercury fillings replaced is gonna cost me £280.

Actually for dental work that doesn't sound too much. Could you pay in installments?

When I had my mercury fillings replaced fifteen years ago I would have had to pay over 1500 Euros, luckily at that time I was in a country where health-insurance paid for the procedure (not any more though).

Does the wisdom tooth hurt or show any sign of growth? If not, leave it where it is.

Concerning the mercury fillings as I understand that there are dentists who use special methods to make sure that the mercury is not absorbed by your body on removal. As I remember this is discussed in this thread, also what to ask them when searching for one...

All the Best!

M.T.
 
It's good to have some precautions like a separate air breathing source and suction of mercury vapors.
 
I had 6 of my amalgams removed a few months ago, it was very expensive but definitely worth it! My gums always bled when I brushed them, and I have no gum conditions of any kind. A month after all my amalgams where removed, they stopped bleeding completely!

The only problems where the nasty abscess I developed and I stupidly thought it was due to my detoxification from Mercury, I suffered with the abscess for up to 3 weeks before doing anything about it. It really was the worse pain I've endured, I decided to get the tooth removed as it was just a molar and it was £250 to have a root canal! As others have said, the only downfall is the chance of the tooth becoming infected.

The teeth are still sensitive to hot and cold even after 6 months, but I've read it can take between 8 months and a year for them to settle down.
 
I went to a holistic dentist more than a week ago to finally find out more about getting my amalgams removed. A spendy procedure, just one section will cost about $2500 so would need to pay in installments. I have insurance but it will likely cover only a minimal amount of the entire cost. Pretty sure I have a total of 9 mercury fillings.

The dental assistant mentioned the composite material is called 3M Filtek Supreme, she did say it has trace amounts of BPA. Not too reassuring. I looked up the other ingredients but wasn't sure about listing them all here. Hard to know how safe they really are. Looks like the two main ingredients are: Silane Treated Ceramic and Substituted Dimethacrylate, and some of the others are: Bisphenol A Diglycidyl Ether Dimethacrylate (Bisgma), Silane Treated Silica, Triethylene Glycol Dimethacrylate (TEGDMA). Looking at the dentists website they call them: biocompatible and bioesthetic material.

I have been reading through this thread and I think I may purchase the Amalgam Illness, Diagnosis of Treatment by Andrew Hall Cutler that was referenced earlier. I have often wondered at the level of anxiety and fatigue, even depression I have had over the years and how much of it may be due to mercury toxicity from the amalgams. A big concern is whether it's worth it to replace the amalgams (it costing as much as it does) when the composite material might not even be that safe.
 
I have read on this post that removing the old mercury amalgams is a tricky and expensive procedure. Where i live in Macedonia it is done on the fly as to say.
For example: I have few amalgams in my mouth for almost 20 years. Last year i have to remove 2 of them and replace with some modern composite filling and one more 2 weeks ago. The doctors dont care how they remove the old amalgams. They are just drilling and all that peaces are falling in the mouth. Then they wash the place with water a i spit all that nasty amalgams in the sink.THey repeat the procedure until they remove it all , and then they replaced it with new fillings.
So it was done with no extra precautions because of the toxicity of the amalgams.

Its not that just my dentist is doing that on that way.All the dentists here are doing that on the same way. :shock:
And its not expensive . Removing one amalgam and replacing it with new filling will cost from 5 to 10 Euros depending from the dentists. The insurance is not covering dental fillings or amalgam removals.

While they drilled and removed amalgams, the dust and small particles of that were all over my mouth. I hope i didn't swallow some of them.

I still have one more old filling in my mouth . The plan is to remove it as soon as possible, but as i already described the "procedure" i`m in doubt.
 
Cleo said:
I went to a holistic dentist more than a week ago to finally find out more about getting my amalgams removed. A spendy procedure, just one section will cost about $2500 so would need to pay in installments. I have insurance but it will likely cover only a minimal amount of the entire cost. Pretty sure I have a total of 9 mercury fillings.

The dental assistant mentioned the composite material is called 3M Filtek Supreme, she did say it has trace amounts of BPA. Not too reassuring. I looked up the other ingredients but wasn't sure about listing them all here. Hard to know how safe they really are. Looks like the two main ingredients are: Silane Treated Ceramic and Substituted Dimethacrylate, and some of the others are: Bisphenol A Diglycidyl Ether Dimethacrylate (Bisgma), Silane Treated Silica, Triethylene Glycol Dimethacrylate (TEGDMA). Looking at the dentists website they call them: biocompatible and bioesthetic material.

I have been reading through this thread and I think I may purchase the Amalgam Illness, Diagnosis of Treatment by Andrew Hall Cutler that was referenced earlier. I have often wondered at the level of anxiety and fatigue, even depression I have had over the years and how much of it may be due to mercury toxicity from the amalgams. A big concern is whether it's worth it to replace the amalgams (it costing as much as it does) when the composite material might not even be that safe.
You might want to have a consult with another biocompatible dentist, for both materials and cost. I don't think costs should exceed $500 per filling removal and replacement. Also, your consult should be with the dentist directly, not assistants.
 
hlat said:
Cleo said:
I went to a holistic dentist more than a week ago to finally find out more about getting my amalgams removed. A spendy procedure, just one section will cost about $2500 so would need to pay in installments. I have insurance but it will likely cover only a minimal amount of the entire cost. Pretty sure I have a total of 9 mercury fillings.

The dental assistant mentioned the composite material is called 3M Filtek Supreme, she did say it has trace amounts of BPA. Not too reassuring. I looked up the other ingredients but wasn't sure about listing them all here. Hard to know how safe they really are. Looks like the two main ingredients are: Silane Treated Ceramic and Substituted Dimethacrylate, and some of the others are: Bisphenol A Diglycidyl Ether Dimethacrylate (Bisgma), Silane Treated Silica, Triethylene Glycol Dimethacrylate (TEGDMA). Looking at the dentists website they call them: biocompatible and bioesthetic material.

I have been reading through this thread and I think I may purchase the Amalgam Illness, Diagnosis of Treatment by Andrew Hall Cutler that was referenced earlier. I have often wondered at the level of anxiety and fatigue, even depression I have had over the years and how much of it may be due to mercury toxicity from the amalgams. A big concern is whether it's worth it to replace the amalgams (it costing as much as it does) when the composite material might not even be that safe.
You might want to have a consult with another biocompatible dentist, for both materials and cost. I don't think costs should exceed $500 per filling removal and replacement. Also, your consult should be with the dentist directly, not assistants.

Yeah, I think that'd be a good idea. So far I have found one other biocompatible dentist here in town. I checked my teeth and it looks like I have 12 teeth with mercury fillings, not 9-so just a bit of an oversight on my part, thought I was was told 9 that day which at the time did seem less than expected. One of the twelve has a crown over it from a root canal years ago. Think I will ask them for more detailed paperwork, showing how much each tooth will cost, not just the pricing for one section. I also did meet with the dentist for the exam, but it was the receptionist who I also believe is a dental assistant who went over the the pricing.

Konstantin said:
I have read on this post that removing the old mercury amalgams is a tricky and expensive procedure. Where i live in Macedonia it is done on the fly as to say.

I still have one more old filling in my mouth . The plan is to remove it as soon as possible, but as i already described the "procedure" i`m in doubt.

I think it is part of the reason why I have put it off as long as I have, because of how involved and expensive the procedure seems to be. Understandably you'd be in doubt Konstantin about your next procedure. I was told by my mother several weeks ago that when she went in for a filling, the dentist extracted part of a cracked mercury filling I believe to replace it with a composite, but without using a specific amalgam removal protocol-I almost wasn't sure I was hearing her right, but understandably the place she goes to is not a holistic dentistry.
 
Konstantin said:
I have read on this post that removing the old mercury amalgams is a tricky and expensive procedure. Where i live in Macedonia it is done on the fly as to say.
For example: I have few amalgams in my mouth for almost 20 years. Last year i have to remove 2 of them and replace with some modern composite filling and one more 2 weeks ago. The doctors dont care how they remove the old amalgams. They are just drilling and all that peaces are falling in the mouth. Then they wash the place with water a i spit all that nasty amalgams in the sink.THey repeat the procedure until they remove it all , and then they replaced it with new fillings.
So it was done with no extra precautions because of the toxicity of the amalgams.

Its not that just my dentist is doing that on that way.All the dentists here are doing that on the same way. :shock:

:shock: Dude! They don't even know what they're doing there! I hope you have or are about to start a detox protocol to help your body get rid of it. This is really important.

When I had my amalgam fillings removed, I did find a dentist who knew what she was doing and she followed the safety protocols. She told me to use chlorella for at least 3 months for chelation.

Here's a post with useful links:

Data said:
When removing amalgam, it is first important that the dentist uses a Dental Dam to prevent you from swallowing the amalgam dust, which would add Mercury load to your body.

After all amalgam is removed, Chelation Therapy can be used to draw Mercury out of the body. People in this forum have experimented with DMSA (higher affinity to Mercury) and EDTA (higher affinity to Iron) chelators. See here for example, also use the search function to find more info:

DMSA for heavy metal detox - how long available?

Vitamin C, Alpha Lipoic Acid and N-acetylcysteine (NAC) alone won't do much in terms of Mercury removal, but they are very important in excreting the ingested chelators DMSA and EDTA from the body, once they have taken up and are saturated by Mercury.

Related threads in this forum:

Questions on heavy metal chelation

Hemochromatosis and Autoimmune Conditions

Very good book on the topic:

_http://www.amazon.com/Detoxification-Healing-The-Optimal-Health/dp/0658012193
 
Thank you Aiming. I will read the links that you have posted and i will do a little research.
I know that they dont know what they are doing. I dont have much choices about dentists here. I will try to find what i can to start some detox process.
Its a very important for optimal health.
 
Konstantin said:
I have read on this post that removing the old mercury amalgams is a tricky and expensive procedure. Where i live in Macedonia it is done on the fly as to say.
For example: I have few amalgams in my mouth for almost 20 years. Last year i have to remove 2 of them and replace with some modern composite filling and one more 2 weeks ago. The doctors dont care how they remove the old amalgams. They are just drilling and all that peaces are falling in the mouth. Then they wash the place with water a i spit all that nasty amalgams in the sink.THey repeat the procedure until they remove it all , and then they replaced it with new fillings.
So it was done with no extra precautions because of the toxicity of the amalgams.

Its not that just my dentist is doing that on that way.All the dentists here are doing that on the same way. :shock:
And its not expensive . Removing one amalgam and replacing it with new filling will cost from 5 to 10 Euros depending from the dentists. The insurance is not covering dental fillings or amalgam removals.

While they drilled and removed amalgams, the dust and small particles of that were all over my mouth. I hope i didn't swallow some of them.

I still have one more old filling in my mouth . The plan is to remove it as soon as possible, but as i already described the "procedure" i`m in doubt.

You are right Konstantin. My dentist did the same procedure, as anything else. No precautions at all. I hope me too that I did not swallow mercury. Really, we live in a world of incompetents. :curse:
 
I went to a new dentist today, Chester Yokoyama. _http://dentalhealing.com/

I had felt some occasional pain in an area of my teeth when I was chewing; I didn't know exactly which tooth or multiple teeth. Xrays and visual exam did not show any fractures. The visual exam and photos did show some wear or degradation on two of the resin composite fillings in the area of the occasional pain, which happen to be where the mercury fillings were removed less than 2 years ago. So that increases my suspicion that my previous dentist Dr. Solis did not do a good job. In the photos, it looks like gray slashes where the resin composite degraded. Dr. Yokoyama said it was surprising to see the wear when the fillings were put in so recently.

He recommended removing the 2 resin composite fillings and replacing them with emax porcelain. The cost for each tooth is $1,450, so the total is $2,900. It is not cheap, though he said given my good health and diet, he expected that the porcelain restoration would last me the rest of my life.

Do you see any problems with this?
 
Wow, that price for a porcelain filling sounds insane! I suppose if you can afford it...

My 2 front teeth are porcelain false teeth and they were 1/3 the price you got.
Perhaps porcelain fillings cost so much because they are "cosmetic"?
 
Two days ago, I went to my dentist. I had a tooth where a filling competely fell out on my lower right jaw . The dentist recommended that I get two silver amalgams removed right by it, because she might hit it. Pay for the dental dam, oxygen, etc. I was really unsure about it at the time and gave into the docs recommendation but know am regreat it.

They used a dental dam, vaccum, cold water but used a breathing tube instead of a beathing mask. Also they did not cover my face and I washed my mouth out when I got home/took a shower. The iaomt organization said the nasal cannula is not effictve but Ive seen other dentist use it?

For the first two days I felt pretty normal but today I feel tired more so then normal. I am taking chollera and going start taking some other supplements. I dont know if I should do low does chelation as I read those carry risks themselves and you have to be quite healthy.

I wont be going back to this dentist, as I feel they kinda pushing treatment to make money but I know at the end of day it was my choice. Do you guys have any feedback? Hope I did not take in too much mercury? Worried now :/ Thank you for reading
 
I completed a DMSA detox cycle after every mercury removal.
https://cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php/topic,16812.0.html
 
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