SOTT has published another interesting article that belongs in this thread:
When browsing on the site of Psychology Today via the above article I found an article about children and NDEs. Their experiences are remarkably different when they are very young. This changes when they become adult:
When my children were still very young I had a few dreams about having an NDE as a child. One was of myself stepping over a lifeless body lying at the bottom of the stairs and I had to make a real effort, since the body appeared to be huge.
Another one was where I was lying in a hospital and consequently, leaving my body behind while watching family members near my bed and walking through the darkness into the light.
Interestingly, I didn't know what these dreams meant at the time time. (I am still not sure as they could be symbolic.) I had heard of an out of body experience, but didn't know anything substantial about NDEs until I started reading SOTT and this thread, and came to the realisation that my old dreams represented an NDE.
I heard from Dutch cardiologist Pim van Lommel an interesting tidbit while watching a few interviews with him. He said that people who have had an NDE can feel when somebody in their surroundings is about to depart for 5D!
A philosopher investigates near-death experiences
Recently at Psychology Today, psychotherapist Mark Shelvock asked some questions of philosopher Monika Mandoki, who has written a dissertation on near-death experiences (NDEs). Both are based at the University of Western Ontario. Here are two of...
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When browsing on the site of Psychology Today via the above article I found an article about children and NDEs. Their experiences are remarkably different when they are very young. This changes when they become adult:
In 1975, Raymond Moody introduced the world to the term near-death experience (NDE) in his book Life After Life. Since then, much has been uncovered about these experiences from research and personal accounts from around the world. The primary focus of these experiences has been on adults. Indeed, most people are probably unaware that children also can have NDEs. However, what information there is on children's experiences is limited. The 1980s and 1990s saw books written on the subject. However, more recently there has been limited research on children's NDEs, even as research and information about adult NDEs continues.
Melvin Morse was perhaps the first to write about children's NDEs in a 1985 article in the American Journal of Diseases in Children.[1] As with most of the early work on NDEs, the focus was primarily on personal accounts; in this case, of four children. The findings showed that the children had experiences similar to adults in that they reported being out of the body, in a tunnel, and seeing figures dressed in white. In 1990, Morse published his book Closer to the Light, which included more anecdotal accounts of children’s experiences and found, as with adults, that one must be close to death to have the experience and that just being unconscious does not produce an NDE.[2]
Jeff Long, co-founder of the Near Death Experience Research Foundation (NDERF), has been collecting accounts of NDEs since 1989 and has amassed thousands of experiences from around the world, of both adults and children. On a larger scale, Long researched the content of NDEs for children 5 years and under and 6 years and older. His findings further indicated that the NDE core content of the very young was the same as the content of older children and adults. They include out-of-body experiences (OBEs), bright lights, and tunnels.[3] Long’s findings were further supported by Sutherland’s[4] extensive review of 30 years of data that indicated age is not a variable that impacts the content of an NDE. These are interesting findings, given that very young children do not have preexisting knowledge, expectations, or beliefs that might contribute to the content of their experiences. Long believes that this strongly suggests that NDEs occur separately from any religious or cultural beliefs or awareness of what characterizes an NDE. Both children and adults are deeply impacted by these experiences, and it remains a vivid memory for them even years later. According to Bruce Greyson[5], those who have an NDE can accurately remember it for over two decades. Having an NDE also changes those who experience it. There are multiple after-effects, but perhaps the most common one for adults is a loss of the fear of death. Some others include having a new awareness of meaning and purpose in life and becoming more caring and loving.
For children, it seems as though reintegration into life is more difficult, as they often do not have the verbal skills to express or understand what has happened to them. For example, P.M.H. Atwater, another child NDE researcher,[6] talks about the experience of a child who was deeply saddened and distressed when she perceived her return to her body as a rejection and abandonment by those who had shown her love. She questioned why they had left her and wondered if it was because she was “bad.”
Atwater states that it can take 7 to 10 years for an adult to integrate an NDE into their life. Children, however, do not typically integrate their experience for 20 to 40 years. Regardless of age, adults and children are confronted with psychological, physical, social, and behavioral changes. Children are often confused about what has happened to them. They feel different from their peers and often from their family as well. Much of the research on children’s NDEs has come from retrospective studies of adults who had NDEs as a child. In 2011, Morse published the results of his interviews and assessments in Transformed by the Light.[7] These adults exhibited a much lower fear of death compared to others who had not experienced an NDE, regardless of the length of time since the experience. They exhibited an enthusiasm for life as well as a feeling that they have a purpose in life.
If you are a parent or a professional working with a child who has had an NDE, it is important to familiarize yourself with NDE literature. There are many books—and websites such as NDERF.org and IANDS.org—that share information and resources for anyone interested in adult and/or children’s NDEs. When talking with a child or an adult, it is important to be attentive and nonjudgmental. Since the young child may not have the verbal skills to talk about their experience, using drawings, painting, and play can help them express what they cannot put into words. They should be reassured that this is not an unusual occurrence and that others have had similar experiences. Providing accurate information about the experience is important. Both the child and their family need to be supported as they go through this process.
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References
1) Morse, M., Conner, D., and Tyler, D. (1985) Near death experiences in a pediatric population: A preliminary report. pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/4003364 doi:10.1001/archpedi. 1985 02140080065034.
2) Morse, M. and Perry, Paul (2023 ) Closer to the Light: Learning from the Near-Death Experiences of Children. Reprinted by Sakkara Books
3) Long, J. and Perry,P. (2010) Evidence of the Afterlife: The Science of Near-Death Experiences. New York: Harper Collins;136-139
When my children were still very young I had a few dreams about having an NDE as a child. One was of myself stepping over a lifeless body lying at the bottom of the stairs and I had to make a real effort, since the body appeared to be huge.
Another one was where I was lying in a hospital and consequently, leaving my body behind while watching family members near my bed and walking through the darkness into the light.
Interestingly, I didn't know what these dreams meant at the time time. (I am still not sure as they could be symbolic.) I had heard of an out of body experience, but didn't know anything substantial about NDEs until I started reading SOTT and this thread, and came to the realisation that my old dreams represented an NDE.
I heard from Dutch cardiologist Pim van Lommel an interesting tidbit while watching a few interviews with him. He said that people who have had an NDE can feel when somebody in their surroundings is about to depart for 5D!
For more than twenty years cardiologist Pim van Lommel has studied near-death experiences (NDEs) in patients who survived a cardiac arrest. In 2001, he and his fellow researchers published a study on Near Death Experiences in the renowned medical journal The Lancet.