Donald Trump wins 2016 US presidential election

Dirgni said:
It is interesting that this happens on 11/9 as it is an interesting date in German history connected with Hitler Germany and its outcomes:

1923 – In Munich, Germany, police and government troops crush the Beer Hall Putsch in Bavaria ("Marsch auf die Feldherrnhalle"). The failed coup is the work of the Nazis. Hitler went to jail because of this. Hitler began the book "Mein Kampf" ("My Struggle") while imprisoned for what he considered to be "political crimes" following his failed Putsch in Munich in November 1923.

1938 – The Nazi German diplomat Ernst vom Rath dies from gunshot wounds by Herschel Grynszpan, an act which the Nazis used as an excuse to instigate the 1938 national pogrom, also known as Kristallnacht. Kristallnacht (English: "Crystal Night") or Reichskristallnacht, also referred to as the Night of Broken Glass, (very recent names from after 1989: Reichspogromnacht or simply Pogromnacht, and Novemberpogrome) , was a pogrom against Jews throughout Nazi Germany on 9–10 November 1938, carried out by SA paramilitary forces and German civilians.

1989 – Fall of the Berlin Wall. East Germany opens checkpoints in the Berlin Wall, allowing its citizens to travel to West Berlin.

Good catch Dirgni - an interesting date indeed! Here's some more, including yours:

1872 – The Great Boston Fire of 1872.

1887 – The United States receives rights to Pearl Harbor, Hawaii.

1918 – Kaiser Wilhelm II of Germany abdicates after the German Revolution, and Germany is proclaimed a Republic.

1921 – The Italian National Fascist Party comes into existence.

1923 – In Munich, Germany, police and government troops crush the Beer Hall Putsch in Bavaria. The failed coup is the work of the Nazis.

1938 – The Nazi German diplomat Ernst vom Rath dies from gunshot wounds by Herschel Grynszpan, an act which the Nazis used as an excuse to instigate the 1938 national pogrom, also known as Kristallnacht.

1960 – Narrow victory for John F Kennedy / Senator John F Kennedy has won the election to become the youngest elected president of the United Stat

1970 – France mourns death of de Gaulle / One of the greatest figures in the history of France, General Charles de Gaulle, dies at his home of a heart attack.

1985 – America welcomes Charles and Diana / The royal couple end their first day of a four-day visit to the States at a gala dinner in Washington hosted by President Reagan.

2007 – The German Bundestag passes the controversial data retention bill mandating storage of citizens' telecommunications traffic data for six months without probable cause.
 
I had a dream last night where the road signs changed and someone was all confused about it, having an accident as a consequence of a road going in a different direction. When I woke up I wondered, who won? Trump came to mind. I checked the news and practically the entire map of the U.S. looked red. Then at work, the news was confirmed. In Spain, the reaction that I saw was, "wow, it is unbelievable that he won" "it must mean total moral bankruptcy" "bad omen for the rest of the world". So if anything, I was happy to hear from people a fairly good representation of our reality.

MSM portrayed such a good image from Clinton, that here in Spain they don't understand why people are happy that Trump won. I tried to explain that Trump was very representative of America. With his narcissism, everything will be in plain sight for everybody to see. No more "mask of sanity".

Yes, it's pretty bad, but I'm very happy that Killary didn't won!
 
As far as the Spanish speaking media goes in the US. They started to lose it the minute Trump started to grab Florida. (Hay Dios mío noooo!!)

After that it was plain old tantrum. They blamed the voters, and justified their false predictions on the basis of "if people weren't ashamed to admit to us that they're voting for Trump we would have predicted this correctly". At some point one of the "experts" on Univision even said "Donald Trump...ugh it disgusts me to say his name".

The portions of it I watched, were always presenting the entire situation as a given win for Clinton. But when the numbers started to show the opposite they (I kid you not) flipped the text titles on the screen, where now the larger number was shown on the bottom.

And it's interesting Navigator spoke about brexit because at some point I recall Jorge Ramos (Univisión) saying something along the lines of "what if he wins? Would people stop trusting in us the journalists? Is it going to be brexit all over again?"

Perhaps I'm wrong, but I get the sense that there was a huge miscalculation at some level, perhaps they trust their power to influence "the silent majority" a bit much.

Now, I feel Trump will have a hard time trying to rule without a tremendous opposition from the media. No channel I tuned into was happy about it.

In NJ where I live, people (from what I've seen so far) seem to be waking up from a bad hangover, they're really sad and upset and are joking about leaving the country. But I guess that's expected.
 
I'm glad Hillary lost and could be on the path to a nice cell. Hopefully her health will hold out if Trump is true to his word and goes after her.

If Trump really wants to 'make America great again,' then the real test will begin in a few months when he starts to grapple with the real shot callers of the United States, the 'secret government' or consortium, etc, that really run things and their tools to implement their plans, the 'secret team' (a la Fletcher Prouty's book). Time will tell. It is a pretty tall order to overturn what has been in place since at least the late 40's to early 50's with people willing to do pretty much anything to keep their power and control of things. JFK was the last to try... and the learning curve will be like climbing a Mt Everest for Trump. Let the show begin...
 
Alejo said:
In NJ where I live, people (from what I've seen so far) seem to be waking up from a bad hangover, they're really sad and upset and are joking about leaving the country. But I guess that's expected.

Same here in Luxembourg - people were taken by surprise when they woke up this morning and are really saddened by the outcome. They feel that the rise in populism is driving the world backwards and are blaming it on the ignorance of the masses, and now fear that this will fuel a rise of fascism and racism here in Europe.
 
Interesting poll in Russian media (see below the article): over 160,000 people participated in it and the results are as follows so far.

- I was sure that Trump would win 44%

- I thought Hillary would win,
but it's a pleasant surprise (that she didn't) 33%

- I'd vote for Clinton. I'm shocked that she's lost 5%

- I think they will find the way to remove Trump 18%

It seems like Russian people generally prefer Trump to Hillary, but at the same time they understand that he can be easily removed if needed.
 
I have the same thimble's full of investment (a thimble possibly being an over-estimation) and trust that you all have in the American political process, but last night, I found myself unexpectedly fascinated by waiting for the results to roll in and RT had a live stream going on. Once it was essentially official that Trump won, I just had to laugh.

In his victory speech, Trump mentioned massive infrastructure projects to create jobs. Where does the cash for that come from? Giant government spending to create jobs is hardly a Republican strategy... It is just so darn funny.

I am nervous about what will happen over these coming months. That is hardly remarkable as I have been worried about the coming months for about 20 years now. But what if Trump really does, for example, start normalizing relations with Russia or really take a deep, hard look at foreign policy? That is the direction that really threatens the Deep State. We all know what a turd LBJ was, but socially, he was progressive in terms of the Civil Rights movement so long as it did not threaten foreign policy.

The American Left that are hysterical about Trump's victory may be right about one thing. There are some pretty close-minded Americans that may view this election as a mandate for bad behavior.

Thus, the scenario that freaks me out a bit is a serious increase in civil unrest in the States, and then at the same time, some sort of dethroning of Trump due to his having seriously pursued some kind of foreign policy reform. In such a case, things could get even weirder even faster.

Get out your tubs of popcorn, folks. This could be interesting. Actually, I think for us it would be tubs of pork rinds.
 
Laura said:
Anyway, as has already been said, now there will be no war with Russia which is a good thing. I'll be interested to see how the NATO chumps start acting now that their big backer is gonna go South

I haven't seen much from NATO itself, just a short congratulatory note on NATO's website.

However, after the election result ex-NATO Secretary Anders Fogh Rasmussen posted on his facebook page, writing:

[quote author=Rasmussen FB Posting]
"Donald Trump must display strength towards Russia. Putin only respects a firm and steady hand. The U.S. President must strengthen the U.S. containment and deterrent policy towards Russia to lay the ground for serious dialogue and, ultimately, restore the strategic balance in Europe. The U.S. must increase support for NATO's eastern flank, set up military bases wherever Russia is threatening the freedom and livelihood of U.S. allies, and wholeheartedly protect Ukraine against future Russian aggression. The Baltics and Ukraine are close friends of the U.S., and neglecting them will have far reaching consequences and mark the beginning of the end of the U.S.-led system."[/quote]

He also posted a video:

_https://www.facebook.com/andersfoghrasmussen/videos/10154608936672488/

He could be considered as the official "unofficial" salesperson of NATO. He too is obviously squirming right now :lol:
 
Putin is happy? Me too I am happy. ;D

Again, what the majority of people think about the reality is coming from TV, my sister included and she lives in Canada. Impossible to make them think otherwise so I suffered internally listen to my sister about how bad is Trump and how good is Hillary (the other day). I shout my mouth, I am unable to fight against TV.

I have many Americans friends, since many years from a Prairie Dog group. They feel really sad so sad that they ask to pray for America. In Facebook I see a division, like two teams, a line between them: those who wanted Hillary, those who accept Trump. It is interesting to see those who wanted Hillary, how... blind they are of the sufferance that this woman and her team caused to humanity. They are absolutely not aware of it. Fascinating!
 
I was really surprised. I had some people texting me their anxieties into the evening, but I refused to participate in the circus and spent most the night reading with my dog.

My facebook feed is more or less dire protestations and pronouncements of doom and I can't help but laugh since we've been pronouncing doom for years.

I'm wagering that how "liberals" feels now is about how "conservatives" felt when Obama won. We'll have to wait and see what happens, but I expect the status quo will continue. Comedians will be sure to have plenty of material for awhile. I'm also having a fabulous time picturing Hillary throwing a tantrum.
 
Patience said:
I have the same thimble's full of investment (a thimble possibly being an over-estimation) and trust that you all have in the American political process, but last night, I found myself unexpectedly fascinated by waiting for the results to roll in and RT had a live stream going on. Once it was essentially official that Trump won, I just had to laugh.

In his victory speech, Trump mentioned massive infrastructure projects to create jobs. Where does the cash for that come from? Giant government spending to create jobs is hardly a Republican strategy... It is just so darn funny.

The USA's infrastructure is in poor shape at present. If the money spent on these interminable wars and arming Islamic terrorists to conduct proxy-revolutions involving the Mid-East at the bidding of Israel ended, there would be money for domestic infrastructure. Both Hitler and Mussolini were successful in the beginning of their reigns to implement these kinds of projects. Made them popular with the workers.

Patience said:
I am nervous about what will happen over these coming months. That is hardly remarkable as I have been worried about the coming months for about 20 years now. But what if Trump really does, for example, start normalizing relations with Russia or really take a deep, hard look at foreign policy? That is the direction that really threatens the Deep State. We all know what a turd LBJ was, but socially, he was progressive in terms of the Civil Rights movement so long as it did not threaten foreign policy.

Remains to be seen.

Patience said:
The American Left that are hysterical about Trump's victory may be right about one thing. There are some pretty close-minded Americans that may view this election as a mandate for bad behavior.

Thus, the scenario that freaks me out a bit is a serious increase in civil unrest in the States, and then at the same time, some sort of dethroning of Trump due to his having seriously pursued some kind of foreign policy reform. In such a case, things could get even weirder even faster.

Get out your tubs of popcorn, folks. This could be interesting. Actually, I think for us it would be tubs of pork rinds.

Wearing red is the color of Trump support according to a conservative acquaintance of mine. So, yes, I also worry about the more close-minded individuals banding together, perhaps in "redshirts", to mete out justice in Trump's name. That's a distinct possibility. And don't forget that the Zionists, who currently are the 4D representatives here on earth to foment negative energy for their masters, may encourage this behavior by creating a few false flag events - like a dirty nuke set off on American soil. Trump may fall in line to avenge this event, as will his more ardent supporters. Let's hope this is not the case. Yet it would not surprise me to see innocent Muslims - and other political undesirables - rounded up and placed in concentration camps much like the Nazis did to the Jews in the 1930s/40s and the USA did to the Japanese after Pearl Harbor.

That said, this morning I'm relieved I won't have to watch and listen to Killary work her obvious evil for the next 4 years. I too would like to see Trump carry out his promise and see she gets locked up, but I doubt this will happen as there is shared dirt that appears to involve Trump and the Clintons. The best I can hope for is Killary has lost her power, is flailing about in frustrated anger, and will die basically a loser. If the PTB set her up for this, I'll take it. At least for now. :evil:
 
Navigator said:
And pushing all the panic buttons: the markets will melt down

The PTB used the same scare tactics during the Brexit referendum. Actually, the UK economy recorded excellent economic results for years during the quarter that followed the Brexit!

In a similar manner, despite all the doom and gloom parroted by the MSM, post election markets are doing just fine as described by Zerohedge:

Just like with Brexit, the so-called Wall Street experts scrambled to paint a picture of doom and gloom, warning traders, and markets, that the end of the world is imminent should Trump win, and that stocks could drop by 5%, 10% or more should Donald Trump get elected president. And again, just like in the case of Brexit, they convinced the algos and the momentum chasing traders. Briefly. Because after futures hit the 5% down limit shortly after the market realized it was dead wrong about the presidential election, they have since soared nearly 80 points of the overnight lows and are well above the Friday, pre-Comey close, level...
 
Odyssey said:
Schadenfreude, anyone? I'm so happy Killary lost and I would've loved to see her meltdown. I just went to the HuffPost and they are having their own meltdown. Here's their front page:

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I particularly like the last line :rolleyes:

Fwiw here is the full picture:

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