Donald Trump wins 2016 US presidential election

[Gary]

Hillary Clinton's concession speech below, for those with a strong constitution for false sincerity. She begins talking at 11:40.

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“Last night I congratulated Donald Trump and offered to work with him on behalf of our country. I hope that he will be a president for all of our country,”

“Donald Trump is going to be our president. We owe him an open mind and the chance to lead,”

“Never doubt that you are valuable and powerful and deserving of every chance and opportunity in the world to pursue and achieve your own dreams,”

https://www.rt.com/usa/366120-clinton-concession-speech-election/

In introducing her Tim Kaine quoted William Faulkner, "They killed us, but they ain't whooped us yet."

A more honest appraisal would seem to be:

"We came, we ran, we got our Establishment backsides whooped BIG time".

 

[Aliana]

In his victory speech, Trump mentioned massive infrastructure projects to create jobs. Where does the cash for that come from? Giant government spending to create jobs is hardly a Republican strategy... It is just so darn funny.

Echoing New Deal by F. D. Roosevelt in the Thirties? Trump is foremost a salesman it seems, and this seems like a good marketing ploy to get the downtrodden on his side.

Yeah, I even felt my cynicism giving way a bit after reading his acceptance speech!

I was actually quite surprised to find out that Trump had won – he was leading when I last checked before retiring but didn’t really believe that would hold. Am thoroughly relieved to see the downfall of the evil witch, although like most here, have many questions about what will come next. I think that the massive discontent of most of middle America with the overall level of corruption and what they see as a loss of traditional values in America’s ‘liberal’ society was wildly underestimated.

It is gratifying to see the MSM pundits eat crow – have just been so sick of the endless Killary cheerleading and Trump bashing. It will also be quite refreshing if the anti-Putin/ Russia rhetoric finally lets up as well. If we start to see improvements in that direction, I think that will be huge sign that changes are afoot.

Am not sure if Trump will carry out his threats to lock up Killary – with the dementia, he may just decide to let fate take its course, but am keeping fingers crossed that he attempts to clean up the neocon swamp, although I seriously question his ability to go down that path.

 

[Skyfarmr]

Well, another hit for the Cs?

After a restless couple nights of sleep with unexplained painful twinges and cramps I can only attribute to the prevailing anxiety in the airwaves, the die is finally cast.

Here in Wisconsin the Republican vote prevailed, flipped the state red for the first time since 1984. Overall, it helped give Trump the win, in addition to increasing a Republican majority in state house AND senate. Not a landslide, by far. In fact, he had only 27,000 more votes, a difference of approx. 1%. And that was surprisingly odd, since the primary went to Cruz, and Paul Ryan pretty much snubbed him from campaigning here and is now kissing ass again so he can be speaker of the House.

Can't say I'm surprised, racism/white elitism runs deeper the farther away from the metropolitan areas you go.


Ever since Bernie lost the primary I've felt this unpredictable loss of HRC as a strong possibility. Bernie was the Left's vote against the establishment, and the DNC did what ever they could to push the totals towards HRC. Shame on them for not reading the signs of discontent and squashing all "the millennials" enthusiasm into the ground. Shame on the DNC for propping up a candidate with so much baggage, health issues and general non appeal. Even though she had the historic first woman POTUS going for her among women voters, in the end, results showed that THAT demographic voter tally was unremarkable.

And to think Trump grabbed the nomination with approximately 6% of the primary vote (when you take into account the total number of registered voters from all parties) at the outset. The reality of all those passionate about casting an anti-establishment vote first and foremost will continue to have a devastating effect on the fairness of elections and voter turn out will be even more anemic. (voter turnout was down by 12% in WI, a 20 year low; while the Bernie supporters boosted voter turnout in the primary to an all time high!)
Here in WI, we've seen an increase in gerrymandering, voter ID laws and voter suppression, all Republican sponsored legislation.
I doubt we'll see any meaningful campaign finance reform or the overturning of Citizens United, so elections will continue to be bought and paid for by the oligarchs. Voter apathy will SOAR!

For the record, I'm a progressive independent; voted for Bernie, and Jill, because I felt more compelled to vote my conscience and protect my soul rather than vote to be on a "winning team" of a narcissistic psychopath or war-monger.

For those passionate and hopeful about a Trump presidency, I guess time will tell. Strings will be attached by the PTB and he'll play the puppet in Chief just like all the former POTUSs. What this election and outcome says to me, however, is that America flies the flag with the colors of RED, WHITE and blue....emphasis on WHITE (privilege/elitism) and RED (corporate cronyism)...the blue (cyanotic ie. about to pass out from shock :O)! It seems the more the Left promoted/courted the minority vote, the more ramped up the support for the Right grew. Fear and loathing steered this election, and personally, i feel defiled for having to witness and begrudgingly participate in this process called a citizen's right... like running with wolves?

For those of you who think foreign relations will improve under a Trump presidency, reign in your wishful thinking! He's backed by a LOT of RED in Congress now, and we only need to recall how that worked out during the 2000-2008 presidencies of Bush/Cheney.

During a speech at Decker Auditorium in Fort Dodge, Iowa, Trump said he would go after ISIS-controlled oil fields and "bomb the s--- out of 'em," to loud applause.

"ISIS is making a tremendous amount of money because they have certain oil camps, certain areas of oil that they took away," Trump said.

He continued: "They have some in Syria, some in Iraq. I would bomb the s--- out of 'em. I would just bomb those suckers. That's right. I'd blow up the pipes. ... I'd blow up every single inch. There would be nothing left. And you know what, you'll get Exxon to come in there and in two months, you ever see these guys, how good they are, the great oil companies? They’ll rebuild that sucker, brand new — it'll be beautiful."

Wow. Two months. He may as well have said "mission accomplished"


Ba-LEEEVE me, things are gonna get worse.
Truss me!...

Pardon me while I
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[seek10]

I'm glad Hillary lost and could be on the path to a nice cell. Hopefully her health will hold out if Trump is true to his word and goes after her.

If Trump really wants to 'make America great again,' then the real test will begin in a few months when he starts to grapple with the real shot callers of the United States, the 'secret government' or consortium, etc, that really run things and their tools to implement their plans, the 'secret team' (a la Fletcher Prouty's book). Time will tell. It is a pretty tall order to overturn what has been in place since at least the late 40's to early 50's with people willing to do pretty much anything to keep their power and control of things. JFK was the last to try... and the learning curve will be like climbing a Mt Everest for Trump. Let the show begin...

This reminds me of a satire I came across today, written 6 months back, from a indian website(so some local take to regional issues).

_http://www.miscw.com/trump-first-day-oval-office-first-briefing-cia-pentagon-dia-fbi-6504.html

Trump first day in Oval Office first briefing by CIA Pentagon DIA FBI

Trump: we must destroy ISIS.

CIA: We cannot do that sir. We created them along with Turkey Saudi Qatar and others.

Trump: the Democrats created them!

CIA: It was not the Democrats. We created ISIS sir. You need them or else you would loose funding from the natural gas lobby.

Trump: Stop funding Pakistan Let India deal with them.

CIA: sir we cannot do that. It is Modi in India and not Manmohan.

Trump: So what?

CIA: Modi will cut Baluchistan out of Pakistan.

Trump: I do not care.

CIA: India will have peace in Kashmir they will stop buying our weapons and they will become a Superpower. Sir we have to fund Pakistan to keep India busy in Kashmir.

Trump:you have to destroy the Taliban.

CIA: sir we cannot do that we created the Taliban to keep Russia in check in the 80s. Now they are keeping Pakistan busy and away from their Nukes.

Trump: we have to destroy Islamic regimes. Let us start with The Saudis.

Pentagon: Sir we cannot do that. We created those regimes because we wanted their oil. We cannot have democracy there as otherwise their people will get that oil and we cannot let their people own it.

Trump: Then let us invade Iran.

Pentagon: We cannot do that sir!

Trump: Why not?

CIA: We are talking to them sir.

Trump: What? Why?

CIA: we want our stealth drone back. If we attack them then Russia will obliterate us there, as they did to our buddy ISIS in Syria. Besides we need Iran to keep Israel in check.

Trump: Then let us attack Iraq again.

COA: Sir, our friends ISIS already control 1/3rd of Iraq.

Trump: Why not the whole of Iraq?

CIA: Sir we need the Shia govt of Iraq to keep ISIS in check sir.

Trump: I am banning Muslims from entering US.

USCIS: We cannot do that sir!

Trump: Why not?

FBI: Then our population will become fearless sir.

Trump: I am deporting all illegals to south of the border.

Border patrol: You cannot do that sir!!

Trump: Why not?

Border patrol: If they are gone who will build the wall sir?

Trump: Build the wall first you idiots!

Border patrol: Then they will be on this side of the wall sir!!

Trump: I am banning H1Bs!

USCIS: You cannot do that sir.

Chief of staff: Then we will have to outsource the White House to Bangalore sir!!

Trump: Why the hell did I get elected?

CIA: To enjoy the White House sir! We create the bad guys, you sign off sir. And then when we sign off you announce that you have destroyed them sir!

Trump: God bless America the land of the free and the brave!!

Add other US chao's in other regions, Ukraine, Russia etc. story won't be different.

 

[lilies]

It feels this is a victory more in the spiritual realms and where wars are being fought in 4thD rather than in the new president's person, he being merely a flag signifying this shift.

Those US politicians who came forward under Obama criticizing US foreign policy, I think they are the real winners here.

Trump [it feels] is now offered a door opened wide by the Powers of Light to step through and fight the US military establishment to get closer to Russia.

Will he be able to keep his campaign promises and make even better achievements?

It feels there is a willingness potential in Trump to befriend Russia - regardless of how many walls he would love to build at home, it will be forgiven to him: If he dares to go against the US 5th Column and force them to at least make some concessions, he will be given active protection against attempts at his life by same tribe and Allies who fight against the Lizards in 4th Density.

 

[SummerLite]

I started watching the election returns at 8:00 pm and didn't stop until I heard Trumps acceptance speech. Through most of this I still thought Clinton might pull ahead.

As Trump took the stage he looked a bit humble I thought and seemed close to tears. I felt he was acknowledging the people of this country and he would try for them, that was my impression (maybe its the iodine).

The channel I watched from 10:00 pm on, kept running negative clips of him almost to the very end which I thought quite odd. The over control of the media supporting Clinton had a real stifling and revealing impact on a large part of the population I think. They threw all their weight into their favorite propaganda machine and it backfired. What has been so effective all these years didn't work, the Truth was to big to hide. Lets hope people remember that after the machine regroups and starts chugging along.

Maybe a timeline switch has accorded, maybe Clinton was the next Hitler. As always, good comments here. We'll see how it goes.

Jill Stein got 1% of the vote. Thats all I could find on her today.

 

[Scottie]

I think we have to keep a few things in mind here.

First, if we respond with pure doom and gloom, that's probably an overreaction. At the same time, if we respond with, "Oh my god, it's so great! Everything's fixed now!" then that's also an overreaction.

But if we look at the bigger picture, I also very strongly feel that had Killary been elected, it would have been WWIII and the US and the rest of the world would have suffered much more.

Okay, with Trump, maybe Americans will suffer more, maybe not. But even that's not so simple.

If you have the choice between WWIII and getting nuked later on, vs. putting up with some crazy policies and economic hardship, which would you pick? Also, I'm fairly certain that the rest of the world (when they're done freaking out) is going to get the idea that they, too, can and should shake things up when their elections come around (I'm thinking of France and other EU countries here, primarily). Right now, EU media is crapping their pants because EU leaders are crapping their pants. But the people? The little wheels in their heads are turning...

Plus, let's say there's an economic meltdown. Guess what? The whole rest of the world is entangled in that mess together, so no one escapes unscathed.

Yes, it really feels like a "timeline shift" or some other such significant marker or event. To me, it seems like a pretty epic shift. But that doesn't mean it's all over. We still have to stay on our toes, keep some irons in the fire, and carry on as usual.

Even if some bad stuff is still coming down the bend, maybe - just maybe - this Trump victory will mean that, as a statement to the universe, America is fed up. And just maybe, that will mitigate things so that even though everything won't be all peaches and cream and candy corn, it will be far less "bad" than it could have been. But I think that also depends on what each of us continues to Do, starting NOW.

The point is, the future is ALWAYS open. Even the C's once said that the USA is past the point of no return. Well, fine. So what? We don't know what that means. It might mean the country eventually becomes a smoldering pile of rubble, or it might mean that things change politically, socially, whatever, to the point that people from today wouldn't recognize the future US. The same is true for all the so-called Western world. I would gladly put up with some "discomfort" if it meant real change could be effected everywhere.

And what might happen might just depend on what YOU do. And me, and all of us.

In other words, don't be like the sentry who fell asleep, blade piercing his hear, etc. and so on and so forth. We all need to keep a cool head, keep our eyes open, and carry on. That's what we do!

 

[Heather]

In his victory speech, Trump mentioned massive infrastructure projects to create jobs. Where does the cash for that come from? Giant government spending to create jobs is hardly a Republican strategy... It is just so darn funny.

Echoing New Deal by F. D. Roosevelt in the Thirties? Trump is foremost a salesman it seems, and this seems like a good marketing ploy to get the downtrodden on his side.

I also thought of Hitler's massive infrastructure projects, lest we forget. However, Hitler was supported by the then isolated nation's private industrialists, whereas Trump will just have to borrow more if he intends on keeping to this agenda.

.. also, it's unlikely Trump would lower military spending given his comments on how behind and ill equipped the U.S. military is when compared to Russia especially.


As for election night.. my husband and I had to postpone for a month a five month sojourn to Goa, India.. (something I will talk about at another point).. and so I was unexpectedly here for its unfolding, which we watched on PBS. What was truly astounding to see was just how clueless -- and exposed in their own cluelessness -- this seasoned group of political analysts were. I mean, just to witness the true and utter confusion on their faces to the point of complete devastation.

.. I mention this since it's perhaps significant to realize that those in the media are so plugged into this myopic, closed system of theirs they really CAN'T SEE. It's not that they actually know what's going on and (hypocritically) report the lie. No, they actually don't SEE the lie they're participating in. It reminds me of the C's take on 4D STS and wishful thinking. The media, to an astounding degree, actually believes the lies it perpetrates. And the Trump victory brutally pulled the rug out from under them.

New York Times columnist, David Brooks, looked like he was just notified that he was terminally ill. He wants to believe (and it might be a good day to buy the Times to see what he writes) but a part of him feels this victory is a triumph of evil -- as in Trump's racism and misogyny -- and yet he couldn't entirely deny the possibility that there are decent, hard working Americans who have just had it up to here with business as usual. Still, it took this astounding wake up call for him to even begin to see what's happening "out there" among the angry and hurting masses.

.. I use Brooks as an example, but the whole team of them were overwhelmed with the sudden knowledge of their own blindness.


To change the subject a bit, I found this on Twitter, which is another sentiment that's prevalent at this point (to echo some of what Skyfarmr posted):

 

[Seato]

I am certainly relieved that Hillary failed to become president and continue her warmongering. Though wary of Trump I hope that relations with Russia may see some improvement under his presidency.

I did dream last night of awaking in the middle of the night, then walking to my doorway where I stood to see all my flat mates doing the same. We all eerily stared at one another feeling something terrible had happened. I then dreamed that I awoke again but this time to some high pitched frequency ringing through my head, I immediately seized my personal protection crystal from the bedside table and buried myself beneath the bed sheets. In both experiences I noticed there was something wrong with the lights so when I genuinely woke up the first thing I did was check they were working. I found it interesting as I have nightmares extremely rarely and this is one of the few times I have felt genuine fear.

Consequently with this and the election result I share the feeling we may have avoided a more catastrophic timeline.

 

[Navigator]

Maybe a timeline switch has accorded, maybe Clinton was the next Hitler. As always, good comments here. We'll see how it goes.

Although I don't see why Killary wouldn't be enough for that job, or Trump, or anyone able to get to the presidential ballot. I guess it has to do with the details on how they want to do that. Trump is a hypnotist, perhaps he's better suited just because of that single feature.

 

[goyacobol]

I think we have to keep a few things in mind here.

First, if we respond with pure doom and gloom, that's probably an overreaction. At the same time, if we respond with, "Oh my god, it's so great! Everything's fixed now!" then that's also an overreaction.

But if we look at the bigger picture, I also very strongly feel that had Killary been elected, it would have been WWIII and the US and the rest of the world would have suffered much more.

Okay, with Trump, maybe Americans will suffer more, maybe not. But even that's not so simple.

If you have the choice between WWIII and getting nuked later on, vs. putting up with some crazy policies and economic hardship, which would you pick? Also, I'm fairly certain that the rest of the world (when they're done freaking out) is going to get the idea that they, too, can and should shake things up when their elections come around (I'm thinking of France and other EU countries here, primarily). Right now, EU media is crapping their pants because EU leaders are crapping their pants. But the people? The little wheels in their heads are turning...

Plus, let's say there's an economic meltdown. Guess what? The whole rest of the world is entangled in that mess together, so no one escapes unscathed.

Yes, it really feels like a "timeline shift" or some other such significant marker or event. To me, it seems like a pretty epic shift. But that doesn't mean it's all over. We still have to stay on our toes, keep some irons in the fire, and carry on as usual.

Even if some bad stuff is still coming down the bend, maybe - just maybe - this Trump victory will mean that, as a statement to the universe, America is fed up. And just maybe, that will mitigate things so that even though everything won't be all peaches and cream and candy corn, it will be far less "bad" than it could have been. But I think that also depends on what each of us continues to Do, starting NOW.

The point is, the future is ALWAYS open. Even the C's once said that the USA is past the point of no return. Well, fine. So what? We don't know what that means. It might mean the country eventually becomes a smoldering pile of rubble, or it might mean that things change politically, socially, whatever, to the point that people from today wouldn't recognize the future US. The same is true for all the so-called Western world. I would gladly put up with some "discomfort" if it meant real change could be effected everywhere.

And what might happen might just depend on what YOU do. And me, and all of us.

In other words, don't be like the sentry who fell asleep, blade piercing his hear, etc. and so on and so forth. We all need to keep a cool head, keep our eyes open, and carry on. That's what we do!

Scottie,

I feel the same way about the way we should look at all these current events. For the most part the "chatter" here is like "The Conference of the Birds".
I think there is some 'anticipation" but for the most part everyone is basing their guesses on what they "see" with as objective viewpoints they can muster.

We tend to think just observing is not so important but I think objective observing allows us to not believe the lies and may help the "timeline" direction. Of course that could include this forum and SOTT, Twitter, Facebook etc. as well as any other way we have to voice what we "see" as objective truth.

 

[Cosmos]

It is interesting to watch the reactions of ordinary people here in germany about this election of Trump. I was at work when the news broke out and all the people I asked about it were surprised and said how crazy the american people are to elect a Trump.

So general consensus was that this is a crazy thing for the americans to do. One co worker who is very mainstream, even said "now the americans have their second 9/11". I think most of this sentiment comes from the mainstream media and how they portrait Trump and at the same time praised Killary.

I also think that this might be "the big miscalculation" the C's talked about, which rolled into motion a while back by the actions of russia. Well as Lavrov puts it though:

Russia will judge the new Trump administration by its actions rather than rhetoric and will “respond in kind,” Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov told reporters.

Following image is from "@MID_Russia" on Telegram, discussed here.

So we have to wait and see but Trumps first speech certainly doesn't sound aggressive at all.

Here is what Putin had to say:

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[HiThere]

This reminds me of a satire I came across today, written 6 months back, from a indian website(so some local take to regional issues).

_http://www.miscw.com/trump-first-day-oval-office-first-briefing-cia-pentagon-dia-fbi-6504.html

Trump first day in Oval Office first briefing by CIA Pentagon DIA FBI

Trump: we must destroy ISIS.

CIA: We cannot do that sir. We created them along with Turkey Saudi Qatar and others.

Trump: the Democrats created them!

CIA: It was not the Democrats. We created ISIS sir. You need them or else you would loose funding from the natural gas lobby.

Trump: Stop funding Pakistan Let India deal with them.

CIA: sir we cannot do that. It is Modi in India and not Manmohan.

Trump: So what?

CIA: Modi will cut Baluchistan out of Pakistan.

Trump: I do not care.

CIA: India will have peace in Kashmir they will stop buying our weapons and they will become a Superpower. Sir we have to fund Pakistan to keep India busy in Kashmir.

Trump:you have to destroy the Taliban.

CIA: sir we cannot do that we created the Taliban to keep Russia in check in the 80s. Now they are keeping Pakistan busy and away from their Nukes.

Trump: we have to destroy Islamic regimes. Let us start with The Saudis.

Pentagon: Sir we cannot do that. We created those regimes because we wanted their oil. We cannot have democracy there as otherwise their people will get that oil and we cannot let their people own it.

Trump: Then let us invade Iran.

Pentagon: We cannot do that sir!

Trump: Why not?

CIA: We are talking to them sir.

Trump: What? Why?

CIA: we want our stealth drone back. If we attack them then Russia will obliterate us there, as they did to our buddy ISIS in Syria. Besides we need Iran to keep Israel in check.

Trump: Then let us attack Iraq again.

COA: Sir, our friends ISIS already control 1/3rd of Iraq.

Trump: Why not the whole of Iraq?

CIA: Sir we need the Shia govt of Iraq to keep ISIS in check sir.

Trump: I am banning Muslims from entering US.

USCIS: We cannot do that sir!

Trump: Why not?

FBI: Then our population will become fearless sir.

Trump: I am deporting all illegals to south of the border.

Border patrol: You cannot do that sir!!

Trump: Why not?

Border patrol: If they are gone who will build the wall sir?

Trump: Build the wall first you idiots!

Border patrol: Then they will be on this side of the wall sir!!

Trump: I am banning H1Bs!

USCIS: You cannot do that sir.

Chief of staff: Then we will have to outsource the White House to Bangalore sir!!

Trump: Why the hell did I get elected?

CIA: To enjoy the White House sir! We create the bad guys, you sign off sir. And then when we sign off you announce that you have destroyed them sir!

Trump: God bless America the land of the free and the brave!!

Good one, pasting onto FB :)

 

[Aiming]

I'm also relieved that the evil witch didn't get what she was hoping for and everything that would have meant for the world at large, and indeed, it seems like we've entered another timeline with Trump becoming president. Really priceless to have all those MSM people stunned and gobsmacked.

In Killary's concession speech, especially in the beginning, you could see her anger boiling beneath. Whatever medication she gets, she held out and delivered her usual lies. It was unbelievable to see her supporters crying. If only they knew! She'll probably disintegrate even faster now that her big plan vanished into nothingness (at least in this timeline). I don't quite see that Trump will really go after her crimes, though what a world it would be if he had Putin advise him on how to cleanse the rotten core of the US-gvt. Well, at least it does look like the people of the US voted against the blatant psychopathic evil, that is something at least. As for what is unfolding down the road, we'll see.

At work it was noteworthy to see that the US votes were becoming such a conversation topic (in Germany). Only, my coworkers had it all wrong, thinking that Trump was the worst choice and how everything would be lost now, looking dark and gloomy. Again, if only they knew what Killary's presidency would have entailed. It was like watching another reality in how they were swallowed by and being invested in the lies about her - a real-life example of how believing lies will make you unable to see. Only thing I mentioned to them was pointing out the parallels of Hitler's and Trump's election process: ridiculed, too extreme, not taken seriously by anyone. I still wonder about these parallels. If Nazi Germany was the trial run, and the current 4D STS plan is to do a 2.0 version of it, perhaps the 1% find him useful for this very reason (some sort of 'encoded pattern recognition' of an STS blueprint?).

I wonder how long Trump can maintain his 'build relations and no warfare' stance. I have yet to see any political leader in these countries keep to even one word or their pre-election manifesto.

Yes, that remains to be seen. I'm not holding my breath about him being able to bring about positive change, but then, who knows what's down the road and not yet visible around the corner. If he tries, as the C's said, he's up against a huge wall that will far surpass the wall he said he wanted to build between the US and Mexico. So yes, it's sit back and enjoy another chapter in the show.

 

[loreta]

Thanks Scottie. You are right. In French we say: "Garder les pieds sur terre". Be grounded? If we speculated to much (for bad or for good) we loose contact with reality and reality is same as yesterday: war in Syria, the horror in Yemen, Palestine tragedy, poverty, torture, etc. Never forget how happy were people with Obama. He teach us how naive we can be. So it is a lesson to remember. People tend to forget these lessons. We know that the PTB don't believe in love nor in the humanity. They will use Trump. Garder les pieds sur terre and continue to try to understand what is this all about.