Dutroux Cover-up Protected Pedophile Networks

[EmeraldHope]

The saddest thing of all, is that no one in the real world will usually listen to you, much less believe you. If you open up and tell them, their eyes glaze over and they change the subject as quickly as possible.


Words I always remember form my Columbian friend after she got into therapy and started t o deal with this, was " You mean I was abused and subjected to all of this, and now I have to fix it? All by myself? And they do nothing, and walk? "


Oh the rage! I totally get that. It is so unfair and so terrible. And it takes a lot of work to get to the center of that rage and work it out. It took me twelve years, and it took my Columbian friend almost twenty.

Isn't that the kicker?! Basically, it amounts to torture even if there is no beating or physical abuse. And what did the Cs say about torture? Those who accept it (meaning, those who do it, those who do nothing about it (which amounts to consenting to others doing it), or ignore it (again, amounts to consent), have the "Mark of the Beast."

I think that doing it, accepting others doing it, ignoring it while it is going on all around, does something really detrimental to a persons FRV (frequency resonance vibration). I don't have any idea how that might play out in the future if there are cosmic energy changes, but I suspect it's bad news for those people.

I'm wondering if a great deal of resources aren't committed to have the masses NOT want to hear about or deal with this and other VERY important issues. From HAARP type stuff (in combination with media, food, vaccines, etc., etc. to make the "beaming" type activity more effective/make it "take")? It seems certain topics, including this one, that are crucial for humanity to deal with, have the most resistance from the public at large to want to deal with it in any way.

You know, all this time, I've had similar reactions to other similar horrors like the endless wars, massacres of innocent civilians, all the indiscriminate killing -- especially children, such as Palestine: WHY do the general public NOT care in any significant numbers about what's being done in their name? But I think these hideous acts toward babies and children are somewhat different. I think it's much harder to justify this with "patriotic" propaganda, etc.

I mean if this could get wide circulation, wouldn't large numbers of people really say "STOP?" Maybe shut down countries' economies until justice is served? I don't know, I have this deep urge to find some way of stopping this EVIL, and getting all the "normies" to know about it, acknowledge it, and say "NO MORE!!!" I don't know.... Of course, the media plays as key a role in the cover up and spin as the judicial/political system, law enforcement, etc. Without the media's role, I don't think these cover-ups would be so successful. :/

That may be. I cannot tell you.

But the issue is, it makes it even more horrific in terms of frv for the planet. I can speak for myself, and also for MANY women that I know that have dealt with true horror, that the rage that is so deep it is not even funny. I can say it is almost even a " I hope the whole planet blows itself up to smithereens, and they all deserve it" kind of thing. And that stems from the treatment AFTER the abuse when you are so messed up and it all gets dumped in your lap. You become the leper, and no one will give you an idea how to fix it. No compassion, no empathy, NADA.

Most all of the women I know are also very intelligent and artistic that have had this happened to them. However, due to the issues that stem from it, their lives go to hell in a hand basket. No social safety net. And the women I know from where I grew up that are in this position are even worse off, because they can not read at a level to help themselves.

I also am not real inclined to give the masses a HAARP excuse. I say that because I have even seen on this forum of wonderful people a tendency to shy away, not want to look, have trouble dealing with it.

 

[truth seeker]

Most all of the women I know are also very intelligent and artistic that have had this happened to them. However, due to the issues that stem from it, their lives go to hell in a hand basket. No social safety net. And the women I know from where I grew up that are in this position are even worse off, because they can not read at a level to help themselves.

Yep and it's not just women/girls either. This thread reminded me of someone I met a few years ago who told me some horrible stories of things that he remembered. He was adopted and in addition to the abuse, he spoke of satanist interests within the family. I think the only reason he was still alive may have been because he was basically labeled as mentally unstable. To me, he was one of the most sane people I ever met. In addition, he was incredibly warm as well as very artistic and I always wondered how someone could survive such an ordeal and still be so welcoming.

That was pretty much how I learned about some of this stuff. While the subject of false memories did come up, I could never reconcile how someone could come up with such madness to begin with and so took it as true.

At the time I left, he was still unable to gain employment and was living off the dole and trying to get an online graphic business going (he was afraid to leave the house as they said they experienced break ins). Really heartbreaking indeed.

I also am not real inclined to give the masses a HAARP excuse. I say that because I have even seen on this forum of wonderful people a tendency to shy away, not want to look, have trouble dealing with it.

I agree. If we have difficulty with it, certainly others outside of this forum would.

 

[SeekinTruth]

The saddest thing of all, is that no one in the real world will usually listen to you, much less believe you. If you open up and tell them, their eyes glaze over and they change the subject as quickly as possible.


Words I always remember form my Columbian friend after she got into therapy and started t o deal with this, was " You mean I was abused and subjected to all of this, and now I have to fix it? All by myself? And they do nothing, and walk? "


Oh the rage! I totally get that. It is so unfair and so terrible. And it takes a lot of work to get to the center of that rage and work it out. It took me twelve years, and it took my Columbian friend almost twenty.

Isn't that the kicker?! Basically, it amounts to torture even if there is no beating or physical abuse. And what did the Cs say about torture? Those who accept it (meaning, those who do it, those who do nothing about it (which amounts to consenting to others doing it), or ignore it (again, amounts to consent), have the "Mark of the Beast."

I think that doing it, accepting others doing it, ignoring it while it is going on all around, does something really detrimental to a persons FRV (frequency resonance vibration). I don't have any idea how that might play out in the future if there are cosmic energy changes, but I suspect it's bad news for those people.

I'm wondering if a great deal of resources aren't committed to have the masses NOT want to hear about or deal with this and other VERY important issues. From HAARP type stuff (in combination with media, food, vaccines, etc., etc. to make the "beaming" type activity more effective/make it "take")? It seems certain topics, including this one, that are crucial for humanity to deal with, have the most resistance from the public at large to want to deal with it in any way.

You know, all this time, I've had similar reactions to other similar horrors like the endless wars, massacres of innocent civilians, all the indiscriminate killing -- especially children, such as Palestine: WHY do the general public NOT care in any significant numbers about what's being done in their name? But I think these hideous acts toward babies and children are somewhat different. I think it's much harder to justify this with "patriotic" propaganda, etc.

I mean if this could get wide circulation, wouldn't large numbers of people really say "STOP?" Maybe shut down countries' economies until justice is served? I don't know, I have this deep urge to find some way of stopping this EVIL, and getting all the "normies" to know about it, acknowledge it, and say "NO MORE!!!" I don't know.... Of course, the media plays as key a role in the cover up and spin as the judicial/political system, law enforcement, etc. Without the media's role, I don't think these cover-ups would be so successful. :/

That may be. I cannot tell you.

But the issue is, it makes it even more horrific in terms of frv for the planet. I can speak for myself, and also for MANY women that I know that have dealt with true horror, that the rage that is so deep it is not even funny. I can say it is almost even a " I hope the whole planet blows itself up to smithereens, and they all deserve it" kind of thing. And that stems from the treatment AFTER the abuse when you are so messed up and it all gets dumped in your lap. You become the leper, and no one will give you an idea how to fix it. No compassion, no empathy, NADA.

Most all of the women I know are also very intelligent and artistic that have had this happened to them. However, due to the issues that stem from it, their lives go to hell in a hand basket. No social safety net. And the women I know from where I grew up that are in this position are even worse off, because they can not read at a level to help themselves.

I also am not real inclined to give the masses a HAARP excuse. I say that because I have even seen on this forum of wonderful people a tendency to shy away, not want to look, have trouble dealing with it.

Yeah, there ARE instances of even forum members trying to buffer the shocks that something like this causes -- HUGE internal earthquake is more like it. And I've had that feeling of "hoping the whole planet blows itself up" in the past -- that "bring on the comets" sentiment, even before I knew much about comets, so it was expressed differently.

I got the strong feeling in the very early 1990's that the U.S. would collapse like the USSR and that humanity had a very high chance of going extinct. However, I thought back then that the US collapse would be in the time range of around 20 years and humanity's extinction in 100 or so years. I didn't have enough data/facts. It was just a feeling from whatever I did know and observed in my life up to that point.

But wishing humanity would just get on with their extinction isn't something I think anymore. I try to think of things to do that answers this EVIL, my small part to try to oppose or balance it all. Whether humanity goes kapput or when is not up to me (my rage at the injustice/insanity of it all). What can I do more to make a stand against all this? That's what I want to focus on. Whatever the outcome, I want to make a stand against this "business as usual."

I'm thinking networking here will increase the chance of doing something meaningful, even if only as a signal to the Universe that there ARE people who know this and who will not turn away and forget it....

 

[EmeraldHope]

Yeah, there ARE instances of even forum members trying to buffer the shocks that something like this causes -- HUGE internal earthquake is more like it. And I've had that feeling of "hoping the whole planet blows itself up" in the past -- that "bring on the comets" sentiment, even before I knew much about comets, so it was expressed differently.I got the strong feeling in the very early 1990's that the U.S. would collapse like the USSR and that humanity had a very high chance of going extinct. However, I thought back then that the US collapse would be in the time range of around 20 years and humanity's extinction in 100 or so years. I didn't have enough data/facts. It was just a feeling from whatever I did know and observed in my life up to that point.But wishing humanity would just get on with their extinction isn't something I think anymore. I try to think of things to do that answers this EVIL, my small part to try to oppose or balance it all. Whether humanity goes kapput or when is not up to me (my rage at the injustice/insanity of it all). What can I do more to make a stand against all this? That's what I want to focus on. Whatever the outcome, I want to make a stand against this "business as usual."I'm thinking networking here will increase the chance of doing something meaningful, even if only as a signal to the Universe that there ARE people who know this and who will not turn away and forget it....

That statement is one of the issues I had in taking so long to sort myself out. I have been in the trenches with the wounded directly trying to help.

I had the hardest time as attracted as I was to this material, but also put off due to this. What of the people who cannot benefit from your posts? Just because you can read something and not turn away and forget does nothing for anyone that has suffered directly.

Now maybe all of the people are not "supposed" to get it yet. But that feels like a cop out to me.


If you have never ever been exposed to good, or philosophy, or truth of any kind, how the heck do you get it? Armchair observing is not all it's cracked up to be, IMHO. But I am a little biased here.

 

[Nienna]

The way I see it is that these poor children (also the women, men and animals) who have had these atrocities done to them may not be able to speak out about these things, and I can understand why that may be so since their very essence has been violated, need someone who can watch what has been done to them and speak for them. My god! They have had to endure these atrocities. The least we can do for them is to watch what they have gone through and show others what is going on be it by facebook, blogging, providing links - whatever.

If you think that watching, and reading about, these things is hard just think about what they have had to go through.

The evil, cowardly psychopaths that are doing these atrocities need to be brought to the public's attention. How is that going to happen if what they are doing is not shown to the world?

 

[EmeraldHope]

The way I see it is that these poor children (also the women, men and animals) who have had these atrocities done to them may not be able to speak out about these things, and I can understand why that may be so since their very essence has been violated, need someone who can watch what has been done to them and speak for them. My god! They have had to endure these atrocities. The least we can do for them is to watch what they have gone through and show others what is going on be it by facebook, blogging, providing links - whatever.

If you think that watching, and reading about, these things is hard just think about what they have had to go through.

The evil, cowardly psychopaths that are doing these atrocities need to be brought to the public's attention. How is that going to happen if what they are doing is not shown to the world?

I am not saying that doing those things do not help. But it usually stops there. What I am saying, is that it usually does nothing to help these people at all directly, no matter how noble and good doing it is.

 

[truth seeker]

I am not saying that doing those things do not help. But it usually stops there. What I am saying, is that it usually does nothing to help these people at all directly, no matter how noble and good doing it is.

How can you know this for sure? Just my opinion, but in this world, good doesn't usually present itself the way we expect it to - it's often "working" quietly in the background. It's evil that's usually loud and "in your face" which also helps to provide the illusion that there is nothing being done. There are people outside of this forum who try in their "small" way and may sometimes think no one is listening, yet here we are.

Just because someone doesn't say directly that they're influenced by something we do, doesn't mean they aren't. For us to think that is an assumption. Much good work seems thankless and it's the smallest part of ourselves that "likes" to believe we have no voice. When each person does their part, together it makes for something incredibly powerful or so I think. When we get out of our own way and let go of what we think change should look like (in other words, no anticipation), miraculous things can happen. Sometimes even surpassing our wildest expectations.

 

[Gimpy]

I also am not real inclined to give the masses a HAARP excuse. I say that because I have even seen on this forum of wonderful people a tendency to shy away, not want to look, have trouble dealing with it.

When people are insulated from Reality, it overwhelms them and that feeling leads to the belief that they are powerless to do anything.

Shocked by what they see as 'unbelievable', people then forget something important: That they are Adults. Adults don't stand around wringing their hands and crying when someone or thing threatens their children. Adults take time to teach their children how to spot danger...from being careful crossing a busy street, to recognizing dangerous people/situations.

The key part is knowing what is a real danger and what isn't.

There are insidious lies that are promoted by church, state, and public education systems that pre-date TV and other media. These days we call them "meme's".

"It can't happen to me." (Or to us, or here, for whatever reason.)
"If bad things happened to you, you did something to deserve it." (This one is strong where I live.)
"That's crazy/unbelievable, which means it can't be true."
"If that were true, someone would have done something about it by now." (Most cited cop out.)
"I don't want to hear it."
"Move on."

The list goes on.

When I was first a victim of of violence, I felt and was helpless. As an Adult, I am no longer helpless, and I am blazing mad at all the excuses and learned helplessness that surrounds me everywhere I go. I understand it, but can't excuse it.

There IS something we all can do....and that is to point to any and all evidence of what human predatory behavior looks like, and state with conviction that that kind of behavior is intolerable in human beings....and will be pointed out for all to see....and that those who've committed criminal acts will be held accountable for them, and that these acts will follow the perpetrators around no matter how hard said criminals try to hide/bury/erase them. Allow the monsters no safe haven in your 'house' whatever that may consist of, be it inside your own head or where you happen to hang your hat. When this is internalized as far as it can be done....don't be surprised if you walk into a room and half the people get up and leave, simply for the reason they cannot stand to be near you. Its like turning the light on and watching the cockroaches run for a dark corner in a basement.

It would be funny if that was a joke. Its not. I've done it. There are people who are so asleep they will automatically flinch away from anyone with a modicum of awareness. If they can't get away from you? They will do everything they can to shut you up. When there are more people who are aware of the real dangers, these same frightened zombies will only join whomever they think is the 'strongest'.

Getting through the ingrained programming is the first hard step. Developing a spine that can withstand the gauntlet that follows dove tails with the Work seamlessly. (At least it has for me, results may vary for others.)

The 'terror of the situation' can be just as overwhelming when it sinks in that our world is essentially a cattle farm for hyperdimensional monsters.

To be frank, if we are to be considered 'cows', then I'd rather emulate a Cape Horn Buffalo. Look them up. They are smart and ruthless when it comes to predators, and all predators, including humans, are treated equally. I don't have a problem regarding hyperdimensional azz -hats in this way. I don't happen to care what techno wizardry or variable physical what not they have....they'll choke on me.

Apologies for the rant.....it's good to express our horror, anger, and that we feel helpless in the face of these things.

Its also important to remember that we CAN do something about it, starting with our own minds, and going from there. I may not e able to reach every battered child or tortured woman or family in torment....but by son of a gun....any monster that enters the very large circle of community I live in is going to find it uninhabitable, painful, and not worth sticking around!

 

[Laura]

I am not saying that doing those things do not help. But it usually stops there. What I am saying, is that it usually does nothing to help these people at all directly, no matter how noble and good doing it is.

We know that. And that is part of the pain, too: knowing that you can do so little. I can't go to Palestine and stop bullets for Palestinians, either, and that saddens me. What I do realize, though, when I think about it is that the work of bringing awareness to others is probably the only thing that could, possibly, in the long run, make a difference. If everyone on this forum went out and started campaigning, digging, whatever, they would be deep-sixed like so many others, in one way or another. A dead martyr is no good to anyone. But we can keep hammering away at the awareness factor and we can try to work out strategies. Perhaps others with more resources and different position will wake up thanks to something someone here says or does, and do something more dynamic.

 

[webglider]

When I was teaching, one of the writing projects I assigned my high school freshmen was a series of memorirs related directly to their personal experiences. The project had several different chapters that related to everyday experiences they had had as children. One was to pick a specific place that had great meaning for the student when he or she was younger. They were to describe themselves as they were then: their interests, a special friend or person connected to that place, a description of the place itself, some dialogue, something unusual that had happened, how they've changed since then, and give advice to their younger self based on the experiences they've had since that time.

The essays I received were really vivid and wonderful; the students enjoyed writing them and reading them out loud. I gave this assignment for years, and then I got an essay that went something like this:

"From the outside my house looks clean and neat. Inside everything is in place. No one who looks at my house has any idea of what is going on inside.

The girl who wrote it was about 14 years old. She was an excellent student. She looked okay - her clothes were neat and clean, her attendance was good, she handed in her assignment, her attendance was perfect.

I kept reading and rereading the essay. I didn't know what to do with it. I did know what to do with it. What if I were wrong? I gave it back. I couldn't forget it. About a week or so later,during a visit to the school library, I pulled the girl aside, began a conversation with her and then, I asked her what was it that nobody knew that went on in her house.

At first she said "Nothing", and then she burst into tears. Her mother's boyfriend had raped her. But, she assured me, she had it under control. She had bought locks for her room and for that of her 8 year old sister. When the boyfriend came home they each went into their rooms and locked the door. She had her life all figured out. She would join the air force as soon as she graduated from high school.

She explained that the mother's boyfriend was necessary because of their financial situation. He paid all the bills, and they had a house to live in because he was there.

I made her go up to the Guidance Department. She was sobbing by the time we got up there. Then, she was absent a lot.

The social worker later told me that the guy confessed to her that the girl's story was true. The boyfriend never admitted it to the mom. The girl hated me. I knew this because my friend had her as a student the term after. The girl's life was totally disrupted - she had to go to court a lot and she missed a lot of school.

It is okay that she hated me. She had to hate someone. And I think that she told me because she was worried about her 8 year old sister.

This happened in the late 90's. I guess that I repressed this story, because it didn't come to me until a day or so after I read this thread. I know I did the right thing, but I don't feel good about any of it. Sometimes I wonder if that family ended up in a shelter or on the street. I never found out because the girl never spoke to me again.

 

[Laura]

This happened in the late 90's. I guess that I repressed this story, because it didn't come to me until a day or so after I read this thread. I know I did the right thing, but I don't feel good about any of it. Sometimes I wonder if that family ended up in a shelter or on the street. I never found out because the girl never spoke to me again.

That's one that makes the heart so heavy: that you do what is right and the system is such that doing this often only makes things worse. Sometimes, vigilante justice doesn't sound like such a bad idea.

 

[SeekinTruth]

This happened in the late 90's. I guess that I repressed this story, because it didn't come to me until a day or so after I read this thread. I know I did the right thing, but I don't feel good about any of it. Sometimes I wonder if that family ended up in a shelter or on the street. I never found out because the girl never spoke to me again.

That's one that makes the heart so heavy: that you do what is right and the system is such that doing this often only makes things worse. Sometimes, vigilante justice doesn't sound like such a bad idea.

Well, that's just it. I've been struggling with feeling of just "offing" these types of predators as I've done in the past too. But even that wouldn't solve anything from the looks of it. There's just so many of them and the system would just come down on the vigilante. It would I guess temporarily relieve the anger/rage and feelings of helplessness in the face of such EVIL.

My father worked with a guy about 30 years ago who was set up by the pathological manager -- accused of steeling toilet paper and fired. Then there was a long lawsuit with the union involved. Then the manager pressed charges for the theft, etc. As the trial went on, one day the guy went to court with a gun and just pulled it out and shot the manager. He went to jail for 5 years I think -- he was released early for good behavior, if I remember correctly. I guess the guy didn't see any other way of getting justice, but he paid an even bigger price by going to jail.

I think, vigilante justice is really only right for the parents of children that have been raped/abused in situations like this. If I had children and anything like this happened and the justice system worked as in the stories in these articles, I don't think I would think twice about killing those responsible, let the chips fall where they may.

 

[EmeraldHope]

This happened in the late 90's. I guess that I repressed this story, because it didn't come to me until a day or so after I read this thread. I know I did the right thing, but I don't feel good about any of it. Sometimes I wonder if that family ended up in a shelter or on the street. I never found out because the girl never spoke to me again.

That's one that makes the heart so heavy: that you do what is right and the system is such that doing this often only makes things worse. Sometimes, vigilante justice doesn't sound like such a bad idea.

Well, that's just it. I've been struggling with feeling of just "offing" these types of predators as I've done in the past too. But even that wouldn't solve anything from the looks of it. There's just so many of them and the system would just come down on the vigilante. It would I guess temporarily relieve the anger/rage and feelings of helplessness in the face of such EVIL.

My father worked with a guy about 30 years ago who was set up by the pathological manager -- accused of steeling toilet paper and fired. Then there was a long lawsuit with the union involved. Then the manager pressed charges for the theft, etc. As the trial went on, one day the guy went to court with a gun and just pulled it out and shot the manager. He went to jail for 5 years I think -- he was released early for good behavior, if I remember correctly. I guess the guy didn't see any other way of getting justice, but he paid an even bigger price by going to jail.

I think, vigilante justice is really only right for the parents of children that have been raped/abused in situations like this. If I had children and anything like this happened and the justice system worked as in the stories in these articles, I don't think I would think twice about killing those responsible, let the chips fall where they may.

There is not much justice. When my father murdered my sister, he got an army court martial of four years, during which he got a free college degree in chemical engineering, is now extremely wealthy ( more so than his degree would imply I think) , and has never paid one dime to my mother or me.

 

[melatonin]

As a survivor who has spoken to many others, i think we had common ground in that people dont want to acknowledge even the most 'believable' case of abuse, commited by 'Joe Bloggs' off the street.
I know all my friends basically disowned me.
Theres such a stigma.
So, theres not a chance in hell that the average person would consider something with government involvement, or more extreme/organised.

Society re-abuses survivors by sticking their head up their arses. Pardon my french.

 

[AdamJM]

I cannot add much, only echo the collective anger and powerlessness felt by others. i just hope that the victims can be at peace, and that the perpetrators receive their retribution for all the pain they have inflicted. swiftly i may add!