Éiriú-Eolas - Breathing Program

ive done the whole program for about five times yet and every time i am discovering things that needs to improve. now im able to fine control the belly breathing through the whole program and as a consequence the relaxation i deeper and deeper. i do the prayer and concetrate very hard on what i am saying and what it means/could mean. i do the prayer seven times. after that (throughout the prayer i turn off the audio cos after a little it distracts me) and during it i feel so much preasure on my forehead and also in my eyes.not that the eyes want to "pop" out but its like something wants to go out through them. in that state i am able to see rough lines and forms and i am trying to catch them for observation. its hard to do it. then suddenly i saw an arc of knives passing through my field of view and i catched one. so its in front of me in and i am giving my best to see it clear as possible. man, it is realy difficult-like Laura said i think "meditaion is like lifting weights with your mind" . so i visualised its handle and then it vanished. after that i saw lots on lines, circles but all was not very clear but when i concentrate hard it can be clearer. so i am asking for some visualisation advices of other expirienced ones who are doing some kind of meditaion. ive done the search on the forum and found nothing.
divine cosmic mind blesses you all ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
 
edit: not sure if this is what you're referring to Jeremy: http://www.cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php?topic=12837.msg110428#msg110428

truht seeker: thanks alot for the link, that what is indeed what I was looking for. :)
 
Hi Capt. Picard,

Just for your information, you can post questions about the EE program in this thread: http://www.cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php?topic=12837.msg122954#new

Here's the beginning of it. It's quite long, but I think well worth it to go through if/when you find the time: http://www.cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php?topic=12837.0
 
capt.picard said:
in that state i am able to see rough lines and forms and i am trying to catch them for observation. its hard to do it. then suddenly i saw an arc of knives passing through my field of view and i catched one. so its in front of me in and i am giving my best to see it clear as possible. man, it is realy difficult-like Laura said i think "meditaion is like lifting weights with your mind" . so i visualised its handle and then it vanished. after that i saw lots on lines, circles but all was not very clear but when i concentrate hard it can be clearer.

What you said capt. picard is very interesting since the lines and forms that you mention reminds me of these “lines” that I saw very clearly when very young. Just as a possibility, the lines and forms that you speak of might relate to a kind of “background fabric” that your witnessing (but I could be WAY off on that)!

As a child I can remember sometimes seeing these, moving, scintillating, crisscrossing (in every conceivable direction) “living” lines of light, that was in the world surrounding me and these lines would (seemingly) extend out into infinity. Sometimes the lines were so clear that I would actually reach out to grab’em but they kind of just went thru my body as if my physical body wasn’t even there. Not only were they visible externally but they were visible internally, in my mind’s eye, with the physical eyes closed. Actually I can still see them now, especially when doing the POTS with my eyes closed, although my perception of this theoretical “living fabric” is much more difficult to see with my eyes open. It may be that this crisscrossing web in my mind’s eye is just all imagination or maybe it correlates in some way to something “out there,” but I don’t really know.

What I was thinking is that there is the “objective” environmental physical world that we perceive with our senses and then there is our internal world which includes our internal reactions, thoughts, and feelings that we call “subjective.” But it seems to me that as we become more conscious of our inner world (such as when doing the EE program) then our inner subjective world becomes more objective and is seen as more of a part of the objective world around us (i.e., the external environment).

I do know that the breathing program has allowed me to see much more clearly and accuratly “the horse kicking.” Although my reactions to the world hasn’t changed much what has definitely changed is my relationship and perception towards these internal reactions (which includes a greater ability to witness them) as a result of doing the breathing program. I can feel many of these internal reactions as something that is external to my real self and these reactions are located on the very outer layer of ‘me’ and they are felt much more clearly as an automatic reflex. Some reactions are more or less accurate instruments of perception, others are not.

For example, things that get me angry and irritated still get me angry and irritated. That hasn't changed, but my perception of these internal reactions has changed. These reactions are felt to a much lesser degree as 'I'. There are reactions that tell me things (such as a feeling of pain when touching a hot plate) and there are other reactions that are completely subjective and completely distort the view of the world.

So I think the breathing program definitely helps one to make proper discernment between those internal reactions that can tell us accurate things about the external world and those reactions that are nothing more then a subjective reflex mechanism conditioned by past programming that distort one's view of the world.

Basically I think the power of discernment is greatly enhanced from doing the EE program and helps us to to see our internal reactions and internal world more in terms of something “out there,” as part of the the objective environment (where more correlations can be made) and can be studied in a similar way, that is, the internal world can be studied more objectively (which includes inner "visions") just as one might study the external world.
 
This week was exceptionally new and exciting for me. Once again I feel great doing the E/E program. I was starting to slack for a bit there not feeling good about myself but now things seem to be picking up again. I have started the UltraSimple Diet and taking supplements and I must say that after just a few days, I feel much better both physically and mentally. My face has started to clear up as well, although I think I finally found the source of the problem too!

My meditations this past Thursday were great for me. After I did my morning session I slipped into a dream that was new for me. Actually it was an old dream that I would have like every month or so but kept reoccurring. It was about my last car and how I always ended up in a bad neighborhood and my car would be stolen and stripped down to nothing. This dream used to bother me back in the day but when I started doing the E/E program months ago, things changed and I noticed that when I had this dream it didn't affect me as much. Like the attachment to the material possession was not as strong anymore. Thats when I noticed my thinking was beginning to change. The thing thats new about all of this is that I have a different car now but still had the dream about my old one Thursday. As I was in the dream looking at this stripped down version of my old car it hit me, this is a dream and I can do whatever I want here! The dream instantly changed at that point but what was new for me was being able to somewhat control the dream from that point on. I was actually deciding what I wanted to do in the dream instead of just observing what happens.

When I did my nighttime E/E session something else happened to me. I was listening to Laura recite the POTS and zoned out but after a few minutes snapped out of it, as is normal for me. This time however I decided to rewind and play the POTS over again since I was still in a relaxed state. When I closed my eyes I happened to look up for a second and noticed something I can only describe as 'tunnel vision'. It was like I was looking thru a funnel and could only see two inches of the entire picture. I had a quick glimpse of what was going on but the more I focused on it, the more I lost it. Truly amazing though. I thought for a moment that maybe I got a quick peek at the higher communication going on but after more thought on it, I'm inclined to believe it is my 'third eye' opening up.

Either way, after months of doing the E/E program, I'm still exploring the new and exciting territory that is me and I'm absolutely loving it! ;)
 
un chien anadolu said:
Many thanks to Bozadi and hnd...Here are the links to Turkish translations (as subtitles) for Breathing Introduction Audio and Breathing Practice Audio (the audio files have been converted into video files in order to add subtitles).

Hi guys, I just wanted to say that the translation is REALLY good. I had my doubts about how hard it is to translate such a thing, but you managed it succesfully.

Your time spend for that labor is much appreciated. Now, I can share the program with some people who desperately need it, but don't know English. Thanks to all of you. :flowers:
 
a quick one about pipe breathing- exhalation part
does it matte whether you make a "k" sound, "g" sound or the "o" - im working with "o" :huh: :huh:
 
Update on my EE practice.

My practice has been spotty for the last 2 weeks, I've just come off a period of intense work on a project that's critical for my financial survival. Long days, falling into bed at the motel completely exhausted, sometimes working through and missing a night's sleep altogether, interspersed with crash and burn days. I've managed to do the full program at least once a week, but many nights I was too exhausted to get through POTS. I would do the first phrase, space out and have no idea what came next. Just listening to the audio seemed like a good idea, but I only heard the first phrase and I was out, so that didn't work. Doing pipe breaths during the day helped a lot.

Anyway, back to normal now, aside from all the holiday social events.

When I first started the full program I experienced some emotional release, not during the exercises but at other times especially when I was singing or writing songs, or even thinking about a song. I always experience occasional releases with my music, this was just closer to the surface. It usually takes concentrated effort for me to reach that point, now it came on it's own, without any effort at all on my part. There was a period when I would be deeply depressed the day after doing the full program and I had to slow down for a while. Now I sometimes feel a little out of sorts the next day, but it passes quickly.

My experience doing EE is always blissful, the round breathing especially, so that I am in a deep meditative state going into POTS. I wish POTS was longer, I may make a custom version for myself with that section repeated. I used to lead group meditations and kirtans (devotional chanting) for may years. EE produces results in just a few minutes, doing it solo, that I have only experienced in group meditations after an hour or more. It is like being reunited with an old, beloved friend, like being nestled safely in the arms of the divine mother.

(I had to stop and cry for a couple minutes after writing that last sentence :/)

I don't have any unusual experiences, except the concentration of bliss at the third eye which I am already accustomed to. Given some of the scary experiences some of you have had, it's OK with me to skip that part, at least for now.

I don't normally recall my dreams, but I've had a couple of dreams that I remembered clearly. In one, I left some kind of event in a hotel in New Orleans and went for a walk. I soon found myself in the company of a group of Cajuns who were cooking a large meal in some kind of shed or garage. They seemed a little threatening at first, but became very friendly after I got to know them. In another dream I had a beautiful, blond male lover/companion (I'm straight). There was no sexual content, it was just clear that this beautiful man was my companion.

I'm going to try doing the full program every night, when possible, it's such a beautiful experience for me.
 
wanderer said:
When I first started the full program I experienced some emotional release, not during the exercises but at other times especially when I was singing or writing songs, or even thinking about a song. I always experience occasional releases with my music, this was just closer to the surface. It usually takes concentrated effort for me to reach that point, now it came on it's own, without any effort at all on my part. There was a period when I would be deeply depressed the day after doing the full program and I had to slow down for a while. Now I sometimes feel a little out of sorts the next day, but it passes quickly.

I've also noticed that I've become more sensitive, especially (the days) after a full program.

wanderer said:
In another dream I had a beautiful, blond male lover/companion (I'm straight). There was no sexual content, it was just clear that this beautiful man was my companion.

Wish I dreamt something like that haha! :P
 
Oxajil said:
Wish I dreamt something like that haha! :P

He was definitely a Nordic type, my personal preference in choosing mates in my life. Maybe I have a 4D friend. Good luck in your dreaming ;D
 
capt.picard said:
a quick one about pipe breathing- exhalation part
does it matte whether you make a "k" sound, "g" sound or the "o" - im working with "o" :huh: :huh:

Hi Capt. Picard,

I'm not quite sure what you are asking here, although others may.

During the Pipe Breathing, you want to make a "Haaaaaaah" sound only with a constricted upper throat so that you are actually sounding like Darth Vader breathing.

In case you haven't listened to it, the different instruction tapes here should be listened to right from the very first one. Laura explains the breathing extensively in these audios.

If this does not answer what you are asking, maybe others can help.
 
I've been making good use of the "Warrior's Breath" both in and out of program. Whenever I'm feeling an excess of emotion (whether positive or negative) I just go to a secluded part of the house or property and heave-ho a round of warrior breaths. It's very cathartic! :D
 
Pardon the length, not sure if I should post this here or in a separate thread, but it seemed appropriate. To preface I haven't been keeping regular with the program, I'm not even caught up with the thread. It started at the beginning of the month and since I've been doing it sporadically. I keep the POTS nightly, when I can. I also do the pipe breaths as needed and have been reciting the POTS on my walk to work in the morning (in my head). I think 'something' is coming, and it's kinda freaky, but at the same time expected and welcome - then again I could just be blowing smoke. :huh: :cool2: :cool2:

Buddy said:
The little bit of experience I have dealing with these kinds of feelings has led me to more memories of some pretty severe 'stops' that were put on my expressiveness, energy, enthusiasm and 'wanting to do' in my childhood years.

I've had a few of these hit me, and I'd like to share them just for the sake of expressing it 'out loud'. When I was in elementary school, perhaps around the age of ten, or maybe younger, our school offered to teach us a musical instrument. I wanted to learn the saxophone, but it was expensive, and I wasn't sure if I would like it or not. My father would only let me do it if i would 'stick with it' because of the cost involved in procuring the instrument. I remember being in tears, arguing that I didn't know if I would stick with it because I haven't tried it yet, and to him, that was a good enough reason to say No.

I feel like this formed, or contributed to a program of me quitting things before I even start them, or failing that quitting outright for fear of failure. It gets confusing, and for some reason there's another memory that's popping up. I was fifteen, working a horrible low-pay job at Dominos pizza taking deliveries over the phone and punching them into the computer. I worked at it for a few months, hated it, and wanted to quit. Again my father 'wouldn't let me', he said something about not letting his son be a quitter, I said I'd find another job, but he remained stalwart and refused to 'allow' me to quit.

I ended up quitting, or getting fired for not showing up for one of my shifts, which triggered a confrontation between me and my father. We got into a shouting match, he said some pretty harsh things, calling me a quitter, a baby (I was in tears), I don't really remember much else. After feeling exasperated and 'done' with the conversation, convinced nothing I could say would dent his mental armor, I left, went upstairs to my room and slammed the door, crying in my bed. The slam 'triggered' him and he came hulking up the stairs and banged on my door (it was locked). For some reason I went to answer it, I think I was afraid he'd break it down, and he continued to verbally assault me as tears, snot and screams left me. My fist was balled so tightly, I told him to back off, that he was asking for a fight and I refused to engage him because he was my father. He called me a wuss, a baby, and my mom and sister crying/yelling at him to stop finally worked and he walked away. I left the house to go stay at a friends.

This reminds me of all through my schooling, my grades were never enough to please my father. He was proud, encouraging, but always pointing out some flaw. An A was good, but a B+ in another subject wasn't. Nothing short of straight A's was 'good enough' because it was 'within my potential' and I was always being told how I 'lacked motivation'. I think this manifested more as I aged, becoming a full fledged program during high school. I did enough to 'get by' but never more, I didn't care. I didn't want straight A's to please him, I didn't want to please him, I wanted to hurt him and I did that through not making grades.

This continued in high school and also in the work. It's a potential I find difficult to reach. I try, and I fail. I try again, fail again. I still enjoy being 'me' even though I want 'me' to 'die'. Perhaps that will come on its own as I continue to try, and fail, and try again. Oxajil's bit really hit me.

Oxajil said:
I'm glad it can help people! It's okay if you let the program run and can't stop it. I've been trying for so long, I've tried all kind of methods and tactics to make it stop running and sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't. It was getting really frustrating at some point! I somehow think it is kind of a process you know. I somehow think that every time we struggle we become stronger and stronger, no matter if we lose or win. As long as we don't Give Up. And as long as we keep on amplifying our STO frequency by reading, researching and networking, I think we will win in the end.

There will come a moment that you will say: No more. And you will know. Just keep on working on Yourself and if you let it run, it's okay, don't beat yourself up for it. Just try to fight it and ask The Divine Cosmic Mind, God, Higher Self or Jesus (or anyone you feel comfortable with) for help if you're struggling. I think that might help Smiley You're not alone in this one.

Now I'm remembering some universal hate I felt angled at God when I discovered my homosexuality. I hated him for making me what I was. I feel this is all connected to a 'worthiness' program I have, I feel 'not good enough' to deserve to be here. I feel like I'm faking it. I want to be here to be, but at the same time I don't know if it's what I really want. Perhaps I'm confusing the predator's mind with my own feelings, I'm sure of it, but there's still doubt, still a desire to fight psychopaths, to fight the aliens physically or psychically or with 'superpowers'. To be a bigger, badder STS then they are so I can destroy them. It's silly, stupid, foolish - but there it is.

I really wish 'I' would 'die'.

I'll try accelerating the program, perhaps daily, now that I have two weeks off from work for the holidaze.
 
hi Jeremy,


I am glad truth seeker posted the relevant forum link, I was researching through the books and found the relevant passages.

So if you have the Wave Series and want to read more on the context of the session (23 July 1995) and the experience as
Laura describes it you will find this in Volume II, beginning around page 149.





Jeremy F Kreuz said:
edit: not sure if this is what you're referring to Jeremy: http://www.cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php?topic=12837.msg110428#msg110428

truht seeker: thanks alot for the link, that what is indeed what I was looking for. :)
 
Puck said:
I ended up quitting, or getting fired for not showing up for one of my shifts, which triggered a confrontation between me and my father. We got into a shouting match, he said some pretty harsh things, calling me a quitter, a baby (I was in tears), I don't really remember much else. After feeling exasperated and 'done' with the conversation, convinced nothing I could say would dent his mental armor, I left, went upstairs to my room and slammed the door, crying in my bed. The slam 'triggered' him and he came hulking up the stairs and banged on my door (it was locked). For some reason I went to answer it, I think I was afraid he'd break it down, and he continued to verbally assault me as tears, snot and screams left me. My fist was balled so tightly, I told him to back off, that he was asking for a fight and I refused to engage him because he was my father. He called me a wuss, a baby, and my mom and sister crying/yelling at him to stop finally worked and he walked away. I left the house to go stay at a friends.

Hi Puck,

Your dad sounds like a class A Narcissist. A lot of wounding comes along with that, that can keep a person spinning in circles for a long time. I'm still sometimes spinning.


P said:
I didn't care. I didn't want straight A's to please him, I didn't want to please him, I wanted to hurt him and I did that through not making grades.

Yep, and probably lots of other things.

P said:
This continued in high school and also in the work. It's a potential I find difficult to reach. I try, and I fail. I try again, fail again. I still enjoy being 'me' even though I want 'me' to 'die'. Perhaps that will come on its own as I continue to try, and fail, and try again. Oxajil's bit really hit me.

I can see why it hit you - the point is that until we give up and turn our backs on ourselves, we can still Work - it's all in our hands - not up to other people - it's up to us. The problem is that each time we turn our backs on ourselves, our 'backs' get stronger - when we feed our false selves, they get stronger, so we, ultimately, move backward and make our battle longer and more difficult. It doesn't mean we've lost, just that we're making our climb a little more steep.

Steep climbs are excruciating (I know from experience; mine is still steep) - but as long as we keep climbing, I think that is the point.



Oxajil said:
There will come a moment that you will say: No more. And you will know.


I think it might be worthwhile to consider that it might be closer to the truth to consider the possibility that 'this moment' will never come on its own. There may never come a 'moment' when you say 'no more' - magically, as if something moves you to do so. In fact, it may be closer to the truth to consider that the moment is every single day and a million 'no mores' - some of them stick, some of them don't - but every single day that battle is through you. As long as you continue to battle, the battle isn't lost, right?


P said:
Now I'm remembering some universal hate I felt angled at God when I discovered my homosexuality. I hated him for making me what I was. I feel this is all connected to a 'worthiness' program I have, I feel 'not good enough' to deserve to be here. I feel like I'm faking it. I want to be here to be, but at the same time I don't know if it's what I really want.


When you're raised by a Narcissistic father who expects you to live up to his name - who never sees you or appreciates you for who you are, not for what you reflect onto him, it's almost impossible to feel worthy of anything at all.

In your past posts you've mentioned how 'normal' your family is - I think the power of this breathing program might be bringing the truth to light (though narcissistic families ARE normal!) - and you are processing it and the damage done, slowly but surely.

By the way, worthiness is a battle I fight as well - and, you know what? I'm finally figuring out that, at the end of the day, if I'm still here, and still striving to give, then I must be worthy of something - how could it be any other way?



P said:
Perhaps I'm confusing the predator's mind with my own feelings, I'm sure of it,

Of course, that's what we do.


P said:
but there's still doubt, still a desire to fight psychopaths, to fight the aliens physically or psychically or with 'superpowers'. To be a bigger, badder STS then they are so I can destroy them. It's silly, stupid, foolish - but there it is.

It's not foolish - it is a logical emotional conclusion of those of us who feel powerless - those of us who were taught to so undervalue ourselves that we dream/think we must be Super Heroes to have any effect at all - that to battle the real Black Hats - to win - to fight the good fight and rescue those who cannot help themselves, we must be Super Heroes. We think this because we have been convinced that we are not worthy, that we are nothing, powerless and that we, as ourselves, can never make that Big difference.

The key is that it's all a LIE - we ARE worthy - the battle is THROUGH US - each of us - in real life and day to day situations. Awakened and in control of our minds, we are powerful - if we weren't, would it have taken thousands of 'years' of effort to keep us - simple humans - in our place?

Keep up the breathing program, Puck - it's making a difference.
 
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