Éiriú-Eolas - Breathing Program

Heimdallr said:
broken.english said:
I want to add that a few days ago I received a EE dvd set(unsigned version), which does very weird things on my notebook. All three disks are causing wild start stop runs of the disk drive and some strange sounds. It could be a sudden malfunction of my disk drive and I am trying to sort this out. What adds to my confusion is that one of the disks after running for a while all of a sudden sent my notebook into standby. I am not aware that a disk drive is in any way connected with the standby function.
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Have you tried a different computer to see if the same thing happens?
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Some friends will check it for me. I am now waiting for their results. They are also interested in EE. In the ideal case this may turn into a successful promotion.
 
Starting to get back on track... I underestimated the force of the world to distract and throw you out of your path.
After some emotional drama and worldy pressure to get my grades in college Im back.
Not really sure why I am posting this but I have a urge to avoid network and only read... a strange feeling that the people here cannot be trusted.
My good ol friend "el predador" once again disturbing my goals... well, I shall make his life difficult this time.
 
When the weather's not too cold, the "round breathing" works well as a walking meditation.
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Speaking of cold weather, I was outside a couple nights ago and it was below freezing. I was shivering. I thought, hey, why not pipe breathe. When I started pipe breathing my shivers went away, and came back when i wasnt pipe breathing.
 
I'm starting to hear voices while I'm meditating. These voices are internal as opposed to being in a dream state and being awoken by an outside noise. I'm not freaked out because this has happened at other times in my life. It was usually when I was just coming out of a dream or just waking up in general or it would be the thing that woke me up. At those times, it was usually someone saying my name. Now it can be anything. I've heard people screaming, growling (as in angry), saying one word or a few phrases. Last night there were quite a few as well. There was an older man crying and there was an image to match. I'm not sure if that one would be classified as a dream. They all seem to happen very quickly but maybe they are for a much longer period which I suppose would be a dream. I can't remember if any of them ever seemed happy.

My general feeling (and I could be completely off here) is that I'm seeing/hearing souls in pain. Does anyone have any ideas?
 
truth seeker said:
My general feeling (and I could be completely off here) is that I'm seeing/hearing souls in pain. Does anyone have any ideas?
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I haven't had many of these kind of experiences, so I have little or no personal knowledge. We don't know where these things come from, IMO. They may be meaningful or not.

I am still guided by much of what I was taught on my previous 3rd way path, until proven otherwise. I was taught that such experiences are a sidetrack from the main goal, and shouldn't be sought or given too much importance. If a real message is coming to you, you will know that you know.

FWIW
 
My dreams have become more intense and am having some episodes of mild depression. I don't know if the depression is related to the breathing excercises. It could be the cause of not finding employment & since the unemployment rate in Modesto, CA is conservatively 20% or more... it's no wonder. But, it certainly has had an effect on my dreams. ;)
 
I only did the POTS yesterday night with the audio and lately, I've been trying to let the prayer sink in me and lower down my natural defensiveness, not a simple feat at all I have to say.

So I had this mental idea which wasn't framed visually, that the POTS was a plant like flower that is slowly shooting tendrils and roots deep into the concrete, gently breaking parts of it to reach the real self.

So it may take time but it's growing inside ;)
 
Tigersoap said:
I only did the POTS yesterday night with the audio and lately, I've been trying to let the prayer sink in me and lower down my natural defensiveness, not a simple feat at all I have to say.

So I had this mental idea which wasn't framed visually, that the POTS was a plant like flower that is slowly shooting tendrils and roots deep into the concrete, gently breaking parts of it to reach the real self.

So it may take time but it's growing inside ;)
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Interesting thought. Maybe the roots are trying to reach the water that's beneath the surface?
 
Tigersoap said:
So I had this mental idea which wasn't framed visually, that the POTS was a plant like flower that is slowly shooting tendrils and roots deep into the concrete, gently breaking parts of it to reach the real self.
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That's an interesting idea. Often I've been thinking about how a fragile baby root, soft and thin, will grow into a concrete crack and, days after days, will slowly expand and manage to break the strongest concrete.

Actually that's very close to the POTS and breathing effect. A gentle and progressive solution that, days after days, helps breaking away the armour of programs, lies and illusions that we carry. Once this armour has disappeared the true self can appear.
 
Belibaste said:
Tigersoap said:
So I had this mental idea which wasn't framed visually, that the POTS was a plant like flower that is slowly shooting tendrils and roots deep into the concrete, gently breaking parts of it to reach the real self.
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That's an interesting idea. Often I've been thinking about how a fragile baby root, soft and thin, will grow into a concrete crack and, days after days, will slowly expand and manage to break the strongest concrete.

Actually that's very close to the POTS and breathing effect. A gentle and progressive solution that, days after days, helps breaking away the armour of programs, lies and illusions that we carry. Once this armour has disappeared the true self can appear.
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I think this is a great visualization. A gentle force of nature. If it is nurtured it will become very strong.
 
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Speaking of cold weather, I was outside a couple nights ago and it was below freezing. I was shivering. I thought, hey, why not pipe breathe. When I started pipe breathing my shivers went away, and came back when i wasn't pipe breathing.
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I can confirm that doing pipe breathing, round breathing and even pots when outside in the cold does help to stop shivering. For my job I do a lot of biking and sometimes I have to wait for a while for the next task ahead. As I am often sweaty after the biking, the round breathing and POTS help me to prevent me from cooling down too fast while sitting on some bench in a park in town.

Could it be that the cold is some external influence that has some anxiety aspect to it? If so the breathing would help in the same way as when being very agitated and using the breathing to regain control of the excited emotions. As such breathing could have a positive effect on many if not all agitated states. FWIW
 
truthseeker,

I'm starting to hear voices while I'm meditating. These voices are internal as opposed to being in a dream state and being awoken by an outside noise. I'm not freaked out because this has happened at other times in my life. It was usually when I was just coming out of a dream or just waking up in general or it would be the thing that woke me up. At those times, it was usually someone saying my name. Now it can be anything. I've heard people screaming, growling (as in angry), saying one word or a few phrases. Last night there were quite a few as well. There was an older man crying and there was an image to match. I'm not sure if that one would be classified as a dream. They all seem to happen very quickly but maybe they are for a much longer period which I suppose would be a dream. I can't remember if any of them ever seemed happy.

My general feeling (and I could be completely off here) is that I'm seeing/hearing souls in pain. Does anyone have any ideas?
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No advice, but I would like to share a maybe similar experience. Last night, long after my meditation was done, I was woken up by a voice telling me ´to get out of this room´. The voice was very convincing, firm. The warning was clear. For a moment I felt like, OK, something could happen any minute, what should I do, get up and leave the bed? I did not (and nothing happened). As in your case I don't know what to make from this.

The advice of Wanderer might be good: not paying too much attention to it. Although that might not always be easy. In general I apply the rule: if I don't understand what is going on, it is better not to act (too quickly). More data might help to clarify and then be sure of what direction to take. FWIW.
 
oneopenmind said:
My dreams have become more intense and am having some episodes of mild depression. I don't know if the depression is related to the breathing excercises. It could be the cause of not finding employment & since the unemployment rate in Modesto, CA is conservatively 20% or more... it's no wonder. But, it certainly has had an effect on my dreams. ;)
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Before E/E I couldn't even remember my dreams when I awoke. Now after starting detox and doing E/E my dreams have been way more intense. I can now pretty much remember most of them and much more than ever before, they're starting to relate to 'the work' in one way or another. Last night I had a dream about a bunch of FOTCM members that were getting together to try and start up our own local church. It was amazing to me because not only had we found a building to use but there was even opposition there to try and stop us as well!

As for your depression, it could be more apparent due to the E/E however I'm sure the job situation is also a factor. :(
 
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