Éiriú-Eolas - Breathing Program

[Gertrudes]

It is a beautiful image and I can relate to it. Plese correct me if I am off here, as I see it, it seems to work well to grow something new rather then trying to approach directly what it is we see in need of correction inside.

I may be wrong in the way I see it, I think that the false personality which is composed of programs, buffer and so on is actually the shell around your real-self and it needs to be discarded for the real you to come to the surface, who is always there, but ignored and weak, which the POTS and the EE, and I say this without being absolutely certain that is the way it is all it is supposed to do, are nourishing and healing the real you and at the same time clearing up the junk accumulated this life and the past ones.
So the old self as to "die" to be reborn, the machine has to be cleaned up first, because the real-self was always there in the first place, there is no correction or trying to fix things from the outside but a return to the real you osit.

It is how I see it as well, I realize now how wrongly I have worded it. I see the real You as the flower which blooms as essence blooms. At times in life where for some reason I feel my path going where it should, the image of the flower glowing and blooming comes to my mind, hence why I felt I related to your image.

By new, in reality I meant a new image as opposed to a seed imported from the outside. In that way, bringing your mind to that new visual image rather then concentrating on the false personality only, can sometimes be more effective, personally I tend to get discouraged and wrapped in negative thoughts when looking just into the false personality for too long.
I realize I have worded exactly the other way around, as if the flower was to be brought from the outside and the false personality was inside. I guess it still is inside somewhere, nevertheless, I agree with you that it is a shell and that the struggle is to find the real-self buried inside.

Maybe it would be more correct to say that the POTS is the water needed for the seed to grow sprouts and tendrils and break the shell.
I don't think it's linear at all, the image made sense to me in my particular case, it might not be relevant for others.

Makes sense to me as well!


Thanks Bo and Bluestar for the valuable info and links. I was not aware that thirst could be disguised as hunger and looking back, I think I actually experience it often :/

 

[MilkoJanovich]

Thanks for your replies, Alana, Truth Seeker and Bo

Yes, I think that writing more is a very good idea. It would help not only to improve my English but also with fighting many of my programs and blocks.

I also felt that my bed is moving, actually everything was quivering and I even had problems with lifting my arms.
Now I remember that it actually wasn’t coming out of everywhere. There was a center of that noise and vibrations. :/ I don’t know how to explain it but I’ll try… The noise and vibrations where getting stronger while the center of that... something was getting nearer my house and the culmination was when it was directly over me. Then it started to withdraw. Or maybe it wasn’t? It was so strange that I’m not completely sure. :/

There’s so much to read in those threads but it’s fascinating to realize how many of you experienced so similar things as I did. To the list of what I mentioned in the previous post I can add having bad vivid dreams about fighting with some evil beings who wanted to kill me (I think they are called “initiatory dreams”). There was a long period of time that I completely didn’t have such dreams and usually dreamed about nice things but previously I had lots of nightmares. I was fighting with an alligator, a crow and a witch who was murdering people in the basement, I was chased in some old castle by an insane man who wanted to kill and eat me and I was smothered by my own father. Although I wrote I’m getting used to some of those not nice experiences that usually occur during the night (losing control over my body and feeling someone’s presence ), now, writing that I think it’s not the whole truth. I know that in an hour I’m going to sleep and I’m not calm and relaxed thinking about that so I’m going to pray a lot before I go to sleep.

Dehydration – that’s it! I drink only two or three glass of water every a day. I had no idea it could be the reason and I suffered for so long! I hope it would help. Thanks a lot!

That’s not all. I would like to write much more. There are also good things happening in my life so I'm going to wrtie about them too.

Thanks again.

 

[forge]

But this night happened something really extraordinary . I woke up in the middle of the night and I began to think about my dream and after some time I started hearing a horrible noise. I felt also some vibrations, it was like an earthquake but nothing was falling down from the shelves and noise (which sounded like: BZZZZZZZZZ) was getting more and more loud and there were also some bangs/whops. It was so strange that I became really scared so I started praying.

You are not alone with this, only i had no Prayer to resort to at that time. Screamed from fear and i guess woke up enough that these superpowerful fine-sound-vibrations stopped. To me was like an electronic concert synthesizer turned to maximum then switched to super-turbo concert-grade loudspeaker circuits then i felt like a kite lifted up from my bed, not physically lifted up only the strong hyperkinetic sensate, [sound plus vibration was kinda strong] then like becoming the epicenter of a sound-nuclear-explosion: before this happened i screamed. As you interrupted your experience. Here i think we made and important breakpoint. Others were not so lucky and strong. see below*

Similar possibly, what as you described. Don't worry too much about it: Should stop soon or after a few occasions with varied strength. Part of the shamanic initiation experience: Laura also mentions this strong buzzing and crackling sound in Amazing Grace for example.

* Graham Hancock mentions in his book when he made himself having his experiences he heard terrible blasting noise in his head.

* Dr. Rick Strassman, in his book Spirit Molecule, thinks that the Pineal gland in our brain is the place where a lot of DMT is and overproduction of this drug by our body may produce such audio effects. He mentions people:

* Sophie p.335 one nurse about whom he knows, that she didn't take DMT yet reportedly had these very strong experiences. Dr. Rick Strassman thinks when you age and your pineal gland calcinates, these naturally occuring sound experiences will stop. He made DMT to get into peoples bodies directly, because he thought that eating it - like Graham Hancock did - produced weak effects. And since he wanted to study - and did - this in clinical environment he asked laboratories to produce synthetic DMT for him and he administered it directly into volunteers. The experiences were as you can read on p.146 of Spirit Molecule. The consequences were described on page 252.

* Father Malachi Martin had such a caller on Coast to Coast, who asked him about a strong noise heard inside. The two decided that the caller was lucky and because of the nature of the sound maybe it came from a benevolent source. The radio show was about exorcism, so every listener was interested in demons and angels. The show host then recounted his sound-experience, and this was also determined that Art Bell was lucky, and the source of internal sound may have been coming from benevolent source. :)

I don’t now if it was the prayer that helped but it finally stopped. The noise was really horrible, it was like coming out of everywhere and causing strong vibrations, everyting was vibrating. It lasted for a couple of seconds. I hope I explained it well enough. Did anyone of you experienced something similar? It happened a couple of hours ago.

Going after this is not worth too much, i think, it's really just frightening noise. Much better idea, i think, to read the recommended books, beginning with the the Big Five.

 

[RedFox]

Something interesting (but potentially rather subjective) to report from doing the POTS last night.
This is the second time I've done it listening to the mp3 player for a few months.

Also on another note, been working on the POTS, analysing each and every line to see what it truly means to me. When I recite a line in my mind, have been envisioning an image of what it relates to. Example, when I say
"Divine Cosmic Mind" I picture nebula's and the infinite space & stars, solar systems, pictures that I have seen on NASA's website.
"Holy Awareness in all Creation", our Earth and all the beings that dwell here. Also including the hyper-dimentionals and working out what their place is on all of this.
Each line has become something more to me with this process. Especially
"As I give Bread to others" Having given a lot of thought to this quote, I wonder now within each moment that I "think" I am giving, am I truly giving? What is it that I think I am giving? And does the person really want what I offer? Do I only give if asked? For me if a person does not ask for lets say the door to be held open for them, but I do offer this to them anyway. Now I do not expect anything in return, like a thank you or something. I just offer it. Where before this I might have thought if no thank you for holding a door opened for another was given, that the person was rude and I would say a "your welcome" loud enough for them to hear and roll my eyes or something. I thought that if I am doing something nice for them, it was the least they could do in return. So really I was not doing it for them, but for myself to feel good about doing something nice for another.

So one more thank you to Laura for the gift of this prayer. My eyes are slowly opening and I am seeing things differently.

I had a go at adding images to the POTS too....it was really interesting to do. The whole thing felt more like an interactive request.....

Normally I zone out after Laura stops reciting the prayer and it gets to 'Continue to breath and relax'.
So I continued reciting the POTS myself in the portion after Laura finishes talking.....and something slowly dawned on me.
I'd noticed the first time I listened to the POTS that I could hear the odd little noise at the end....the mic was still open and recording. I had thought in the past that perhaps this should be edited out??
I wondered why it was left recording this time? I had an image of Laura sat peacefully (but also looking slightly serious) with her eyes closed in the sound recording room (where she does the videos)....and it dawned on me that she was doing the meditation with us all....something else came to mind too (the exact quote I cannot seem to find), in a thread discussing the wave Laura replied (along the lines of) "I'm trying to save your lives".
Help is there in the open mic part for all who request it. It suddenly felt like I was in the same room as Laura, or Laura was in the same room as me....but not just Laura, the whole of 6th density was rooting for us. I felt quite overwhelmed by this....and quite small and humbled and embarrassed. Why would anyone be rooting for me? I dismissed that thought as self important.
I was still reciting the POTS through all this, and the presence/energy/connection I felt built up like a tidal wave forming (it felt huge)....it peaked at 'carried in the heart'...and washed over/through me at 'live in me today'.
It amazed me that Laura (and 6th density?) would be rooting for us so deeply (I guess I didn't get it until now), and it felt like she was going through everything with us feeling everything each of us does....each pain and sadness and heartache and.....I burst into tears at the thought.

I find myself wanting to apologies for any inconvenience caused....I would not wish for another to suffer, so to know that others are rooting for and going through suffering with me is.....well it sure does stop you from being stuck focused on the self. I feel naked, and embarrassed. And overwhelmed with gratitude, and so small that I worry I cannot give the same back. I'm not even sure I can find the words to express this properly....

Thank you Laura. My hope is that one day I can be and do enough to repay you all.
We are all 'carried in the heart' of the divine cosmic mind.

 

[Cyre2067]

Wow Redfox, good post.

I find myself wanting to apologies for any inconvenience caused....I would not wish for another to suffer, so to know that others are rooting for and going through suffering with me is.....well it sure does stop you from being stuck focused on the self. I feel naked, and embarrassed. And overwhelmed with gratitude, and so small that I worry I cannot give the same back. I'm not even sure I can find the words to express this properly....

So I've been ratcheting up my breathing/meditation program, aiming for the full deal every other day with a regularly nightly/daily meditation depending on the circumstances. I've had a few different experiences, mostly I just get a relaxed calm feeling and a nice recharge, but the first time I did the whole program twice in a row I had a weird visit.

So I was going through the breathing, and everything was cool up to the round breathing. I got there and I felt totally overwhelmed with exhaustion, I laid back on the bed and continued with the breathing and pictured a glob of pure water, this water seemed to have a glow about it emanating from the inside which sort of radiated out through it/around it. Then I got the distinct impression that it was alive, conscious and watching me and floating just above my bed. Which semi-freaked me out, but I got the vibe it was curious so I just kept on 'seeing' it as it saw me. Weird feeling. I then got the impression it was 'assigned' to me as a protector/guide, though how it actually performed those functions I dunno. As I was going through this I was also conscious of my inherent skepticism - like maybe it was a nasty there to eat my face and just massaging my ego or whatever to placate me - I then got the impression it giggled at me, which I also saw by having the glob sorta ripple. I got the the POTS and felt a warm hand on my shoulder and then I guess I zoned out/passed out and woke up some time later. I should mention this isn't the first time I've felt a guiding hand gently grasp me on the shoulder, happens every so often when I'm feeling down or confused or frustrated, its like a gentle reminder that I'm not alone.

Other experiences I've had in the last few weeks: I've seen, weird waves of yellow/blue/green/red flow back and forth across my plane of vision. This totally felt similar to drug-induced experiences of my earlier years, though much more mild and quite relaxing. I've had black/white spots that grow and shrink, and I sometimes have been zoning out other times remaining completely conscious, more so the later. The weird thing is that each time I do it, it's a little different. I totally get the whole 'plant growing roots, cracking up concrete vibe' every time I say the POTS, and have been doing that more often as I walk to and fro, or just when I'm not feeling so hot and need a boost.

I did the whole program on Monday, completely chill, no weirdness, and though I did zone out for an hour somewhere in the POTS, and woke up way later wondering what happened. Last night I did the meditation before bed, passed out, and had the weirdest dream that was totally disturbing. The first thing I get is that I'm a young boy, like maybe 8-10, and I'm being led through some sort of house by someone who kidnapped me. The worst part is that my younger sister was kidnapped too, and she's like an infant still. Even worse - there were multiple housemates that were aware of the fact that we were kidnapped and that this guy had total predatory intentions toward me and my sister, two of them were cops who completely ignored the fact that we were there. He even said he planned on killing her, which really upset me. The room we were in was like a shoddy living room, my sis and I were on a couch while this guy kept going back and forth between a computer and some papers strewn about a table in front of us. I somehow got his cell phone and dialed 9-11, but it didn't work. He saw me, laughed, and said he had it disabled. When I refused to give it back to him, he started shoving a TV remote down my sister's throat, so I tossed the phone and jumped him trying to pry it out of her mouth. He laughed again got up and went back to the computer. There was some food on the table, figs and apples, so I calmed my sister down and tried to feed her some mushed up bit of a fig. -Poof-

The next part I'm at like a chucky cheeses or a YMCA with my 'family' which is huge, like there's 6-7 kids mostly older then me. I become aware that this is the place we were kidnapped from, and try to warn my older siblings/parents. Again with the laughter, derision, ignorance - so I'm like, we'll fine, where is she? And no one seems to know, like she was just sitting here in her high chair and now she's gone. This one was a bit less clear, more foggy like a normal dream so I'm not sure if it's a part of the last one or not. The last thing I remember seeing was my sister (more like a toddler then an infant) dead, covered in what appeared to be tuna-salad, so I'm not sure what that was about.

So I woke up with all the feelings that the kid was having, the frustration, the impotence, the depression and am finding it difficult to function at work today. I have some mild nausea that's coming and going but overall I just feel like passing out somewhere. Usually when I have nasty dreams I know they're 'just dreams' and can sorta shake em off, this one though, it felt real and the emotional carry over is driving me a bit nuts.

 

[StandingOnTheEdge]

I may be wrong in the way I see it, I think that the false personality which is composed of programs, buffer and so on is actually the shell around your real-self and it needs to be discarded for the real you to come to the surface, who is always there, but ignored and weak, which the POTS and the EE, and I say this without being absolutely certain that is the way it is all it is supposed to do, are nourishing and healing the real you and at the same time clearing up the junk accumulated this life and the past ones.
So the old self as to "die" to be reborn, the machine has to be cleaned up first, because the real-self was always there in the first place, there is no correction or trying to fix things from the outside but a return to the real you osit.

Maybe it would be more correct to say that the POTS is the water needed for the seed to grow sprouts and tendrils and break the shell.
I don't think it's linear at all, the image made sense to me in my particular case, it might not be relevant for others.

Thank you Tigersoap for offering the image of our false personality surrounding our real selves. It conjured up the image in me of Shakespeare's Prospero in "The Tempest" when he says,

"We are such stuff as dreams are made on,
And our little life is rounded with a sleep...."

It is interesting that he delivers this speech toward the end of the play, almost as if he is realizing the truth of his words as he says them, because a little later he wants to "abjure" his magic. He seems to realize that all that magic, all that power is really just a part of the false personality. Maybe "our little life" is of greater importance, for it seems to be that which we seek under the guidance of FOTCM.

Just recently, I was hypnotized by my Reiki teacher in order to face one of my negative introjects. In the process, I saw my father and my small child self both as separate dark clouds that blended into a fog. My teacher guided me to lift this fog and to see what was under it. When I did, I saw a golden flowing river, which was what I took for my true self, and I cried tears of joy.

I know it is going to take practice to keep that fog lifted, but that strong image of the golden river, my "little life", keeps me persistently focused on manifesting its waters. That image and a good amount of EE, diet and exercise, that is!

 

[SeekinTruth]

Last night, Wednesday night, I did pipe breathing and then POTS before sleeping. I had a very deep meditation with POTS. I seem to be steadily having deeper meditative states both when doing the whole program Mondays and Thursdays with the audio & just pipe breath & POTS nightly, culminating in the last 4 or 5 days and last night particularly.

I'm still seeing some visuals that are not very clear most of the time while doing the POTS. The "images/visions" have become somewhat slower but still not too clear most of the time; it seems usually they're some kind of moving or swirling patterns with other images superimposed over them. It varies in amount, duration, and clarity. I try to just take note of whatever I can without overly focusing on them to keep my focus on the overall meditation.

Also, "zoning out" is still happening variably. It has mostly become less consistent over time compared to when I first started the program and much shorter in duration.

 

[987baz]

I do the pipe breathing and POTS every night and do the full sequence every second or third night.

I have noticed when doing the full sequence that my hands and feet get a strange sensation, the best way to describe this feeling is like a really pleasant pins and needles, but it feels more like my hands and feet are charged with energy, just wondering if anyone else has experienced anything similar?

apart from that I still experience yawning, and occasionally see blue and purple lights. I have also noticed an increase in energy during the day :)

 

[Beau]

I do the pipe breathing and POTS every night and do the full sequence every second or third night.

I have noticed when doing the full sequence that my hands and feet get a strange sensation, the best way to describe this feeling is like a really pleasant pins and needles, but it feels more like my hands and feet are charged with energy, just wondering if anyone else has experienced anything similar?

Yes, I have experienced this. I'm pretty sure it's a normal response by the body to the breathing exercises.

 

[ElizabethDempsey]

Regular practice of the breathing program (especially at the beginning) is like priming a pump: even when it seems like nothing is happening, a force has been activated which assures an outcome. For me, initial results related to "releasing" were more like a sputter, but eventually there began to be a steady flow of old material coming up for review and resolution.

Another way in which the flow has expressed itself is in a desire to sing. I find as I move through the day, I'm almost always humming or singing something. :)

 

[987baz]

Another way in which the flow has expressed itself is in a desire to sing. I find as I move through the day, I'm almost always humming or singing something. :)

interesting you talk about singing as I was just thinking about people who sing and the use of the diaphragm. As someone who has been singing (in bands) for most of my adult life i find that I breathe with my diaphragm most of the time anyway without thinking about it, I have also noticed greater capacity to hold notes since starting the EE program :)

 

[Ollie]

Here is an update on my experiences over the holiday period and this last week with the Breathing-Meditation programme.

I’m just doing the three-stage breathing and PotS, I do this each day as a morning meditation exercise (listening to the tape) and in bed just before going to sleep (reciting to myself), as well as an evening session on both Monday and Wednesday.

What I have noticed is that during the PotS I have started yawning, almost all the way through it, along with a continuation of the wet (plus – not quite tears) eyes, and aching in my neck at the sides where the neck joins the shoulder/vagus nerve area.

… Normally I zone out after Laura stops reciting the prayer and it gets to 'Continue to breath and relax'.
So I continued reciting the POTS myself in the portion after Laura finishes talking.....and something slowly dawned on me.
I'd noticed the first time I listened to the POTS that I could hear the odd little noise at the end....the mic was still open and recording. I had thought in the past that perhaps this should be edited out??
I wondered why it was left recording this time? I had an image of Laura sat peacefully (but also looking slightly serious) with her eyes closed in the sound recording room (where she does the videos)....and it dawned on me that she was doing the meditation with us all....something else came to mind too (the exact quote I cannot seem to find), in a thread discussing the wave Laura replied (along the lines of) "I'm trying to save your lives". …

On reading this I gave it go both in the mornings and the last two night’s (Wednesday as well as during Thursday breathing- meditation exercise), prior to going off to bed.

The yawning intensified, the wet eyes turned into tears, and I experienced ‘a shaking leg’ (usually a signal of excess energy being dissipated in the evening) on each occasion. On the first evening of doing this, these experiences were extreme, along with the itching on my upper arms, almost as if something was attempting to prevent me from meditating. Or, perhaps something is shifting?.

 

[Mrs.Tigersoap]

It amazed me that Laura (and 6th density?) would be rooting for us so deeply (I guess I didn't get it until now), and it felt like she was going through everything with us feeling everything each of us does....each pain and sadness and heartache and.....I burst into tears at the thought.

Thank you Redfox, that was really inspiring!

Yesterday, at the end of the POTS, I was seeing things connecting: faces kissing and becoming one, hands touching, interlocking and becoming one. I understood it as maybe some symbol of left and right brain connecting, but maybe it's too simplistic?
I also saw myself dressed as an astronaut!!! (Well doing the EE program does feel like exploring the universe, after all...)

 

[Tigersoap]

I did parts of the EE program with the POTS, yesterday night in the bed and I noticed a great warming up of my torso and feelings of spaciness and swirling motions, there were a lot of furniture crackings as well I started to see images but as usual I can't recall exactly what I saw.

After a while I zoned out but I was suddenly brought back sharply because I think, and I am not sure that's what happened, a very cold breathing was felt on my face. I opened my eyes because it brought me back and I just saw a black dot on the ceiling which disappeared.

I usually feel very peacefull while doing it but there I was quite jumpy afterwards.


There is a question that was on my mind, not related to last night, would the EE program help somehow against alien abductions or any kind of tampering, signals broadcasted etc... ?
I know this is a strange question, but I was wondering.

edit : haha I did not know my wife was online !!

 

[no-mans-land]

Hi friends

I would like to share some interesting experience during the EE.
If i try to relax and do the pipe breath, warrior breath and round breathing, i feel sometimes a tendency that a far deeper relaxation is possible, but before I reach this deeper level, my whole body begins to itch and this is very distracting. In fact, it prevents me because when I scratch myself to get rid of this itching, it produce only far more itching like waves radiating from the initial point over the whole body. It produce the disire to whip me with a barbwire^^. Normally the meditation then is not very deep. I think about to brush myself with a hard scrubber completely before get the EE started, maybe this would help.

But one time i reached this deeper level and a hard "zoning out" occurs with a flash of a vision from a big tree in the dark with a illumined crown. The trunk was hide in the dark and only the crown was visible. After this, a few seconds of darkness and silence followed interrupted by an worm who was coming out of the dark very quickly an I got the impression, the worm was looking at me. He looks like, as he had a only one big round mouth where the head should be located.