Éiriú-Eolas - Breathing Program

[Learner]

Thanks for sharing your dreams, Windmill Knight! And looking forward to hearing your preserved one, Alana...

Well, tomoe, there is really no problem with your English, you just accidentally put Alana's name by refering to my statement to Windmill Knight's post on EE related dreams. Not a big deal ;)
I will share this particular dream in the appropriate thread, when I find time. As for now there is much learning by reading for university actually - I will undergo one part of my examinations next Thursday. After that I am going to post about it, tomoe (because the dream might be a bit long). :)

A big hug to the little you, Learner, that did not find the acceptance then to express in her own time and pace. But you know what? You don't need to think like this around here anymore. No one is going to yell at you or reprimand you, EVER, for being you and navigating at your own unique pace. And i am sorry for your teacher too, because he never took the time to deal with his emotions and probably PTSD, but took it out on little children.

Thank you for your empathy and encouragement, Alana. Reading it first, it actually made me cry just out of the sudden. And it felt quite good. But I feel, not all has been gone yet - it is still in process. I remember indeed, I often just needed more time to figure something out, in way to become understandable and reasonable for me, especially while in primary school. Later, it improved a bit, as I worked out, how to navigate myself through the several approaches I and the other students have been told to take. But it was not very sarisfying at all.
Regarding this sports teacher, I also feel sorry for him. He was still a quite young guy, in his first 20s maybe and - by seeing it in the hindsight - for sure quite overstressed with his job as teacher and psychically wounded somehow due to his army time (although he tried that to push away). I hope, he found a good way for himself, to cope with it and work through it, however.

It is really relieving to know, that I may learn to know myself through this forum in MY pace. Because, I really try to grasp, what I read (in the forum, in the books) - and to read and grasp in English, takes me time (although I sense an improvement regarding this, due to participation here). But I like the learning, although I sometimes feel overwhelmed. But I do every step after another...

Regarding POTS, I tried to pray it aloud - but it feels strange, as I am used to praying it in mind. BTW, thanks Jerry for the paragraph from the Law of One and the effects to the mind of saying words aloud. ;) Should try the prayer aloud for some rounds... Will observe, what happens.

 

[Bluebird]

I recently ordered the Eíriú-Eolas - Breathing Program DVD and was very pleasantly surprised when it arrived from the other side of the world a mere two weeks after ordering. I had been expecting a wait of four to six weeks so thanks to Laura and the team for their excellent service.

Cheers

 

[Mrs.Tigersoap]

Thanks for mentioning this Mrs. Tigersoap. Just last night, I had a dream in which dutch was spoken to me (which I barely know), and I understood it!

You're welcome! :)
One of my language teachers in high school was always telling us that once we started to dream in a foreign language, it meant that we were beginning to master it. So, maybe you know more Dutch than you think!

 

[Alana]

Thanks for mentioning this Mrs. Tigersoap. Just last night, I had a dream in which dutch was spoken to me (which I barely know), and I understood it!

You're welcome! :)
One of my language teachers in high school was always telling us that once we started to dream in a foreign language, it meant that we were beginning to master it. So, maybe you know more Dutch than you think!

Hmmm... i don't know if that is true in every situation. I remember a dream where i communicated fluently in German - with Hitler in fact! But i can barely speak any German, let alone master it, in real life

Thanks for sharing your dreams, Windmill Knight! And looking forward to hearing your preserved one, Alana...

Well, tomoe, there is really no problem with your English, you just accidentally put Alana's name by refering to my statement to Windmill Knight's post on EE related dreams. Not a big deal ;)

Ah! Thanks for clearing this up, Learner. I had an almost senior moment there ;) wondering when did i say that and why i can't remember!

And don't worry about saying the POTS out loud. I only do it sometimes, when i have a hard time concentrating. If it doesn't feel natural to you, then just listen to Laura's voice and/or recite it in your mind.

And you are welcomed

 

[Mrs.Tigersoap]

Hmmm... i don't know if that is true in every situation. I remember a dream where i communicated fluently in German - with Hitler in fact! But i can barely speak any German, let alone master it, in real life

That's interesting!
Personally, I have never (that I recall) dreamed in a language which is not familiar (It's always a language I either know, have known or at least regularly hear). I also tend to speak better in my dreams than in real life. I also fly better in my dreams

 

[LQB]

I was doing a round of PB and POTS this morn and got "hit" with one of those ear pressure changes, momentary reduction in hearing, and a very strong ringing right at the start of the line "Clear my ears ..." - very strange. I did finish without interruption.

 

[tomoe]

Well, tomoe, there is really no problem with your English, you just accidentally put Alana's name by refering to my statement to Windmill Knight's post on EE related dreams. Not a big deal

oops, then my apologies to you, Learner A big relief that you didn't seem this offensive

After that I am going to post about it, tomoe (because the dream might be a bit long).

Well, now I'm not feeling quite right with it as it would now seem that I'm pushing you to post this dream. :/ But anyway, I'll keep my word on posting my own memories soon.

Regarding POTS, I tried to pray it aloud - but it feels strange, as I am used to praying it in mind. BTW, thanks Jerry for the paragraph from the Law of One and the effects to the mind of saying words aloud. Wink Should try the prayer aloud for some rounds... Will observe, what happens.

I think it would do only better for you in a sense that with trying praying POTS on many ways, like saying it aloud or in one's own language, by way of trials and errors, one can find their most effective method that brings the most positive results. So even if it won't be 'the one' for you eventually, you are always richer in new experience, right?

 

[Learner]

Ah! Thanks for clearing this up, Learner.

oops, then my apologies to you, Learner A big relief that you didn't seem this offensive

You are welcome, Alana and tomoe :)

Well, now I'm not feeling quite right with it as it would now seem that I'm pushing you to post this dream. :/ But anyway, I'll keep my word on posting my own memories soon.

No, I didn't think of you pushing me, so no need to worry, tomoe. But I can understand your curiousity. I think, I should post such things straightforward and not only announce them - if I have to contribute something, I just should contribute and not only just talk about it, so that others can benefit from it. Otherwise I should not announce. Thank you for helping me to realize this, tomoe - as it has occured sometimes here in this forum already (so far as I remember). And it does occur in real life. I think, I have to work on this. But anyway, I will share my dream story after Thursday, when I have more time, as I think, it should be part of the whole of info of this network. I am looking forward to read about your dream experiences as well. :)

Regarding EE, I didn't make it even into the PB, let alone the POTS last night, as I was too tired and had no success to fight against sleep. It was also due to a touch of laziness, there was this thought in my head "Oh, I think it is not that bad, if you leave out one night". I hope, next night I will win this fight.
And I will try the different approaches to the POTS - praying it aloud and in mind, I know that I will work out my way, because I want to. Maybe if I just try the POTS aloud this night, I probably might win the fight against tiredness and laziness.

edited: clarity

 

[dantem]

I recently ordered the Eíriú-Eolas - Breathing Program DVD and was very pleasantly surprised when it arrived from the other side of the world a mere two weeks after ordering. I had been expecting a wait of four to six weeks so thanks to Laura and the team for their excellent service.

Cheers

That was fast ;)

I've recently re-ordered a copy and noticed that the EE music track is not there as in my first DVD/CD set. The first order was the special edition though while this one is the 'normal' edition, so is the music track to be found in there only?

 

[mocachapeau]

I had a kind of odd experience doing the EE program yesterday. Or at least, it was odd for me.

When I got to the meditation section, I remember hearing the first five or six phrases of the POTS, and then I zoned out. This isn't unusual, I zone out quite regularly during the POTS, but usually only for a second or two, a phrase or two. But this time, I clicked out near the beginning of the POTS and then clicked back in a second or two before Laura says, "Divine Cosmic Mind Bless You All". I was wondering whether I had fallen asleep, but I don't think so. If I had fallen asleep I don't think I would have woken up for a long time, especially with that soothing music playing. And it wasn't Laura's voice that woke me by saying that last sentence, I came to before that.

I started to wonder if there might be something controlling me so that I won't hear the prayer consciously. But then I guess that wouldn't really matter since my unconscious mind would be listening all the way through.
Is this an odd thing? Or is this common and nothing to worry about? Or is it a good thing?

Anyway, I did the whole program again this evening, and there was still a lot more zoning out than usual, for long periods, but I came back in a little more often. I'm simply beginning to wonder if something inside me is trying to shut it out, because I have a hard time concentrating on the words without just "going away". Isn't it important that I be concentrating consciously on the prayer, focusing on it, or an image, or something?

One thing is for sure, I feel great at the moment. Calm, happy and energized. I can't say that I'm really worried about all this, just asking questions.

 

[pete02]

Thats completely normal for many of us mocachapeau. ;)

The 'zoning out' thing was discussed in great detail throughout this thread. I realize this thread is quite long to go back and page thru but Bo has taken much of the info from this thread and put an 'E/E' FAQ together to make things easier for us to find quick answers to common questions. It may help you with many of the things you might experience from the E/E program.

Check it out! http://www.cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php?topic=14410.0

 

[celtic]

Is this an odd thing? Or is this common and nothing to worry about? Or is it a good thing?

Zoning out is common when doing the meditation Laura said it is part of contacting your higherself.
But to get a good understanding of commen experiences you should look at Pete02 previous post.

 

[mocachapeau]

Thanks for you help Pete02 and Celtic.

I new that zoning out was a common part of this, and I had already had this occur. It had just never happened for the entire prayer, only a few seconds here and there.

And thanks for the link.

 

[Mountain Crown]

Today I was suffering nearly intolerable aching in my calves for some unknown reason.

Now after the program, it has subsided much. Thought I'd share this with you.

 

[Laura]

As promised (though it took some time and doing), the new PUBLIC EE forum is now open:
http://eiriu-eolas.org/forum/

We will be looking for moderation help from among experienced practitioners who are members of FOTCM to work alongside the certified teachers.

We do want to keep the woo-woo factor down, so keep that in mind when posting! No talk about hyperdimensional beings, etc.