Éiriú-Eolas - Breathing Program

[Thomas Alan]

With the weather getting more spring-like I've been doing EE outdoors when I get the opportunity. Today I hiked a mile or so to a bench in a woodsy place.
I did 3 stage breathing and warriors breath.

With the cool fresh air and nature around me it was so relaxing. Helped me focus my thoughts.

Mac

 

[davey72]

Hello all. I have a question regarding methadone. I am in a treatment center, so i am not using anything, and i am being slowly weaned off of methadone. i was told not to do the beatha breathing, as people with brain chemistry imbalances aren't to do it, but if a person does not get high, and is coming off it slow enough, then how does this relate?

 

[LQB]

Hello all. I have a question regarding methadone. I am in a treatment center, so i am not using anything, and i am being slowly weaned off of methadone. i was told not to do the beatha breathing, as people with brain chemistry imbalances aren't to do it, but if a person does not get high, and is coming off it slow enough, then how does this relate?

Doesn't make much sense to me, but did they explain their reasoning? If not, maybe you can get them to explain why they think breathing exercises are counterproductive.

 

[anart]

Doesn't make much sense to me, but did they explain their reasoning? If not, maybe you can get them to explain why they think breathing exercises are counterproductive.

The rehab center did not instruct Davey in this, EE instructors did. Davey - you are not yet clean. You have used one or another form of drug since you were in your early teens, according to what you have written on the forum. Due to this, your brain is NOT functioning the way it was designed to function. Until you have been completely clean for at least six months, perhaps a year or longer, you should not do the beatha portion of EE. I know this has been explained to you. Why are you not accepting what people who are professional EE instructors have told you?

The fact that you won't accept what is being instructed is proof positive that you should not be doing the beatha portion of EE.

 

[Iron]

Yesterday, after POTS I began to think of all the suffering in the world, all the misery, all this mechanicity and reactivity, and people making the wrong and unhappy choices over and over again, powerless, and those who cant even decide not to suffer.
I had these kinds of considerations before, but this time it did not felt as intelectual as was in the past... it was more felt. I had a little trouble sleeping but when I did, I woke in the next morning deeply restored. The funny thing is that I have slept probably some 5 or 6 hours, and Im one of these persons that if I dont sleep 8 hours Im no one.

 

[Nienna]

Doesn't make much sense to me, but did they explain their reasoning? If not, maybe you can get them to explain why they think breathing exercises are counterproductive.

The rehab center did not instruct Davey in this, EE instructors did. Davey - you are not yet clean. You have used one or another form of drug since you were in your early teens, according to what you have written on the forum. Due to this, your brain is NOT functioning the way it was designed to function. Until you have been completely clean for at least six months, perhaps a year or longer, you should not do the beatha portion of EE. I know this has been explained to you. Why are you not accepting what people who are professional EE instructors have told you?

The fact that you won't accept what is being instructed is proof positive that you should not be doing the beatha portion of EE.

I agree. Davey, why are you holding on so tightly to being able to do the beatha part of EE, even when being told by EE instructors that it is not healthy for those with neurological chemical imbalances? This is, actually, very concerning to hear.

 

[Aya]

Hi zim. I think it's normal to feel hot during parts of EE. For me, I get quite hot during 3-stage breathing and Warrior's Breath. But, oddly enough, I feel cold during Ba-Ha and usually need to get a blanket over me. Sometimes I even need to put my fingers on the sides of my nose to try to warm up the air I'm breathing in since it feels so cold. But I think changes in temperature are quite normal.

wow, I have the exact same experiences.

Like many people I cannot help yawning during 3-stage breathing and round breathing. I cannot stop my tears to come out from yawning!

I agree. Davey, why are you holding on so tightly to being able to do the beatha part of EE, even when being told by EE instructors that it is not healthy for those with neurological chemical imbalances?

I am just curious, how come it is unhealthy for people who have neurological chemical imbalances to do Beatha?
Is it too powerful for the nervous system?

 

[OrangeScorpion]

Doesn't make much sense to me, but did they explain their reasoning? If not, maybe you can get them to explain why they think breathing exercises are counterproductive.

The rehab center did not instruct Davey in this, EE instructors did. Davey - you are not yet clean. You have used one or another form of drug since you were in your early teens, according to what you have written on the forum. Due to this, your brain is NOT functioning the way it was designed to function. Until you have been completely clean for at least six months, perhaps a year or longer, you should not do the beatha portion of EE.

I am just curious on the relationship between taking drugs and making EE.

What drugs are we talking about?

If I smoke a joint of marijuana this afternoon, would not it be advisable to do EE tonight?

 

[Beau]

If I smoke a joint of marijuana this afternoon, would not it be advisable to do EE tonight?

I doubt you'll find anyone here either qualified or willing to give advice on such matters. In fact, it would be advisable not to discuss illicit drug use on the forum at all.

 

[anart]

Again, this is the beatha portion of EE only. OrangeScorpian, please read the forum guidelines about discussing your illegal pasttimes.

The beatha portion of EE can bring up strong emotions and memories, as a person processes them. It is contraindicated in people who are who are bi-polar, schizophrenic or who have other chemical brain imbalances, because it can be overwhelming in those situations and lead to other issues arising. This is all clearly explained in the EE instruction video.

 

[OrangeScorpion]

I doubt you'll find anyone here either qualified or willing to give advice on such matters. In fact, it would be advisable not to discuss illicit drug use on the forum at all.

Again, this is the beatha portion of EE only. OrangeScorpian, please read the forum guidelines about discussing your illegal pasttimes.

The beatha portion of EE can bring up strong emotions and memories, as a person processes them. It is contraindicated in people who are who are bi-polar, schizophrenic or who have other chemical brain imbalances, because it can be overwhelming in those situations and lead to other issues arising. This is all clearly explained in the EE instruction video.

Ok. Sorry

 

[davey72]

Hello all. I have a question regarding methadone. I am in a treatment center, so i am not using anything, and i am being slowly weaned off of methadone. i was told not to do the beatha breathing, as people with brain chemistry imbalances aren't to do it, but if a person does not get high, and is coming off it slow enough, then how does this relate?

Doesn't make much sense to me, but did they explain their reasoning? If not, maybe you can get them to explain why they think breathing exercises are counterproductive.

she keeps stressing that i do not do it, as this is what Dr psyche advises. It is explained in the next few posts down.

 

[davey72]

Doesn't make much sense to me, but did they explain their reasoning? If not, maybe you can get them to explain why they think breathing exercises are counterproductive.

The rehab center did not instruct Davey in this, EE instructors did. Davey - you are not yet clean. You have used one or another form of drug since you were in your early teens, according to what you have written on the forum. Due to this, your brain is NOT functioning the way it was designed to function. Until you have been completely clean for at least six months, perhaps a year or longer, you should not do the beatha portion of EE. I know this has been explained to you. Why are you not accepting what people who are professional EE instructors have told you?

The fact that you won't accept what is being instructed is proof positive that you should not be doing the beatha portion of EE.

I haven't said that i don't accept it. I said i was holding off until i have all the info i need, as they could only say that my brain is still imbalanced. I just want to figure out exactly why this would be so, and how long until i am off it before i can start? i am also a little worried , as i was reading one of the sessions, wherein it was said that once we reach a certain point in time, that it will be essentially too late to start to do the work. I'm sorry i don't have the quote. I have a little notebook now, and have started writing things down for just this reason. Also to write down my dreams, so as to analyze them. The medical community sure doesn't give a person hope in ever getting off this crap, and have me scared to go down quicker than 5-10 mgs/ week, then less, as i get lower. I haven't been doing the beatha breathing since i was told this, except once, as i thought perhaps there was a miscommunication. This is indeed evidence that i am imbalanced i guess.

EDIT: The reason i was wondering in the first place, is that a person does not get a high with methadone, especially while coming down, so then what about people that are prescribed things such as prozac, or what have you? then, if this is not good, what about people that have fluoride in their drinking water? This is my line of thinking at the time i was asking the question.

 

[davey72]

Doesn't make much sense to me, but did they explain their reasoning? If not, maybe you can get them to explain why they think breathing exercises are counterproductive.

The rehab center did not instruct Davey in this, EE instructors did. Davey - you are not yet clean. You have used one or another form of drug since you were in your early teens, according to what you have written on the forum. Due to this, your brain is NOT functioning the way it was designed to function. Until you have been completely clean for at least six months, perhaps a year or longer, you should not do the beatha portion of EE. I know this has been explained to you. Why are you not accepting what people who are professional EE instructors have told you?

The fact that you won't accept what is being instructed is proof positive that you should not be doing the beatha portion of EE.

I agree. Davey, why are you holding on so tightly to being able to do the beatha part of EE, even when being told by EE instructors that it is not healthy for those with neurological chemical imbalances? This is, actually, very concerning to hear.

I guess i was just really wanting to get on with it, as i was feeling quite good doing it, and also, i am kinda hoping to begin teaching it one day when i am ready. Like with everything in my life, i seem to want everything all at once. Something i need to keep looking at, i suppose.

EDIT: anyways, I am back where i started. I am holding off doing the beathe breathing, until i have these questions answered to my satisfaction. Thank you all for the feedback. This was in no way meant to look like distrust on my part.

EDIT: also, i did not get the "clean for at least 6 months part". This is good to know. Thanks again. or perhaps my "bad brain" selectively missed this part of advice.

 

[Gawan]

Doesn't make much sense to me, but did they explain their reasoning? If not, maybe you can get them to explain why they think breathing exercises are counterproductive.

The rehab center did not instruct Davey in this, EE instructors did. Davey - you are not yet clean. You have used one or another form of drug since you were in your early teens, according to what you have written on the forum. Due to this, your brain is NOT functioning the way it was designed to function. Until you have been completely clean for at least six months, perhaps a year or longer, you should not do the beatha portion of EE. I know this has been explained to you. Why are you not accepting what people who are professional EE instructors have told you?

The fact that you won't accept what is being instructed is proof positive that you should not be doing the beatha portion of EE.

I haven't said that i don't accept it. I said i was holding off until i have all the info i need, as they could only say that my brain is still imbalanced. I just want to figure out exactly why this would be so, and how long until i am off it before i can start? i am also a little worried , as i was reading one of the sessions, wherein it was said that once we reach a certain point in time, that it will be essentially too late to start to do the work. I'm sorry i don't have the quote. I have a little notebook now, and have started writing things down for just this reason. Also to write down my dreams, so as to analyze them. The medical community sure doesn't give a person hope in ever getting off this crap, and have me scared to go down quicker than 5-10 mgs/ week, then less, as i get lower. I haven't been doing the beatha breathing since i was told this, except once, as i thought perhaps there was a miscommunication. This is indeed evidence that i am imbalanced i guess.

Davey, you shouldn't push yourself too much in that matter, in doing the beatha portion, it is just one part of the program and even NOT the most important one. You quoted the C's, sometimes the answers from the C's don't count for every single person, cause every individual has a different learning curve. As always, there is right and there is wrong and the specific (individual) situation. That means everyone carries their load and sometimes it is needed that some lessons need to be solved first.