Éiriú-Eolas - Breathing Program

[Galaxia2002]

Take care of yourself and be patient now, accept the feelings of resentment, sadness, anger as natural responses to your past experiences. It will pass; bringing a new meaning to life and yourself.

Thank you Ana! Everything I tried fail so I felt so bad that unfortunately had to take paracetamol two times, I had a year without take any pills because I know the consequences, but I really feel good again, I hope not have need to do this again.

Galaxia2002, the book you are reading seems very interesting! I feel always a strange relation with my body, specially when I feel nervous and when I am afraid. In fact when I feel stressed or at the brink of a panic attack it is my body who seems to see it before my mind. I don't like that and I want to know why. I check for the book at Amazon but it is not there. Can you give me the author? You know I think I have to read about this subject. My body was always a big problem with me because my mother hate "flesh". I would like to study my body under the perspective you said. Maybe I have to make peace with my body. I don't know.

Thank you in advance. Have a nice day! :)

Loreta

Hi Loreta, sorry I did a literal translation of the title ;), but the real title is "Getting Our Bodies Back" by Christine Caldwell. -here is the link:

http://www.amazon.com/Getting-Bodies-Back-Christine-Caldwell/dp/1570621497/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1305768902&sr=8-1

 

[davey72]

Thanks. It makes me feel better knowing that i am not as far behind as i thought i was. I have been doing the meditation pretty much everyday now, but it is really hard to follow the diet where i am.
EDIT: i don't do the beha portion, though, and i just don't really see much of an affect yet. It is kinda frustrating, as i didn't seem to notice anything even when i was doing it.I thought Perhaps i was subconsciously blocking, or something, as i haven't been able to put forth any money, but i am doing everything i can right now regarding the work.Is it better to not eat anything with gluten, or casein, and just eat as much of the little bit of good food that is available? I am also working out everyday, so i am pretty hungry lately.

Glad you feel better. Remember the essence of this program is no anticipation. Just do it each day and know that things are working below the surface. Or you may be making progress in ways you don't recognize. Either way, it's another thing not worth stressing over.

Things are limited for you right now, but that situation won't last forever. Do the best you can, and make it your goal to get all the value out of your program that's possible. When you are out, you will be able to eat much healthier. It's a matter of getting from here to there. If you can get enough to eat from the "good food that is available" then try to do that. Could you make a case for food sensitivities, and see if they will adjust your diet a bit?

Ya, i kinda tried the "food allergies" thing, but, although at first they said no problem, and that they had a 4 star chef, i found out this wasn't true, and they didn't think it was important enough to warrant a seperate diet after i told them it wasn't life threatening. I was thinking that maybe it wasn't working, because, although i was trying not to anticipate, i think i sort of was.

 

[herondancer]

Hmm. It sounds like they're stuck on the whole food pyramid thing. Maybe you could give them some of the articles on gluten and dairy (especially the ones that mention they act on the body like opiates) but again, without anticipation. Other than that, just do your best each day. It's too bad, but again, you are not in a forever situation. When you are in a position to eat as healthily as you can, using the info from the diet and health threads, you'll really appreciate the difference.

 

[davey72]

Hmm. It sounds like they're stuck on the whole food pyramid thing. Maybe you could give them some of the articles on gluten and dairy (especially the ones that mention they act on the body like opiates) but again, without anticipation. Other than that, just do your best each day. It's too bad, but again, you are not in a forever situation. When you are in a position to eat as healthily as you can, using the info from the diet and health threads, you'll really appreciate the difference.

Ya, it's funny. i HAVE TRIED MENTIONING SOME THINGS, AND EVEN SENDING A FEW THINGS VIA FACEBOOK TO THE COUNCELLORS HER, BUT THEY ALL SEEM TO LIKE BEING STUCK WHERE THEY ARE. THEY DON'T EVEN ACKNOWLEDGE ANYTHING. i KINDA HAD A FEELING IT WOULD BE LIKE THIS WHEN DURING TYHE INITIAL INTERVIEW THE GUY WAS SAYING ABOUT MAKING SURE MY DR AND PSYCHOLGIST KNOW WHAT EACH MOTHER IS DOING. HE SAID THAT HE WON'T DO ANYTHING WITHOUT HIS DR'S SAYSO. hOW HE IS TAKING THESE ANTI DEPPRESENTS FOR DEPRESSION THE LAST COUPKLE YEARS NOW, AND ANTI PSYCHOTICS FOR SLEEPLESSNESS. oops, sorry. half the staff seem like robots., and the other half are left powerless. It is teaching me a lot about myself, and human behavior in general, though.

 

[loreta]

Galaxia2002 thank you. I will try to find the book.

Have a nice day (or night) my friend.

Loreta.

 

[cubbex]

Don't know, maybe a different effect on feelings. I have noticed that sometimes the moon have some kind of effect on my mood.

Many people are sensitive to the moon phase, especially around the full moon. Many become irritable or have trouble to sleep. It could be due to many different factors (light, electromagnetism, tidal forces, biorhythms etc.).

However, meditation is about internal process. Do not try to get any immediate effect. It's just a profound relaxation that allows your subconscious to process calmly the emotional nods in your internal life. It's a long and ongoing process that operates under the surface. Do not anticipate nothing. Do it, relax, and forget it. It is only after a time that you may notice a change in your mood. No-anticipation is the key OSIT :)

HEHE I agree with the trouble to sleep, these last three days with full moon I had problems to sleep.

But I was not anticipating, I was open to my suposition of course, I know that takes time to see the changes but thought that the full moon was adding something to those changes lol, just a vague idea.

I use frequently EE to deal with my emotional troubles and programs, so I know this doesn't work magically,it's a tool.

Thanks for your concerns mkrnhr.

 

[Ollie]

This week, on Monday was similar to last week, with wet eyes during three-stage breathing, and this happened with a group session on Wednesday. Group sessions are certainly more powerful, limbic resonance taking place to heighten the experience. :)

During PotS on Monday, my left toes were twitching. After starting to read In An Unspoken Voice by Peter Levine (dealing with overcoming past trauma), perhaps it was my higher-self reinforcing a message that I reported on, of a couple of weeks back – twitching toes, possibly some movement of release. The message being - overly concerned with details that prevent you from seeing the bigger picture in a given situation; details are about doubt (fear, internal considering), which is about anticipation (internal considering). The advice being that: tangled in details, you impede your progress and block yourself from achieving your goals, usually out of fear. Whatever your goals, any regret or guilt you are carrying will only serve to magnify your fears – after all, all there is lessons. Well, at the moment a lot of sacred cows, limiting decisions or buffers, are being severely challenged in the work that I’m doing. Time to face the fears head-on. A timely message to let go and just experience the present moment. :)

 

[Iron]

Yesterday, full meditation
Felt a jolt and a feeling of electricitiy in the left arm and in the left lower leg during warrior's breath.
During Baha I had to make a conscious effort to not sabotage the practice and do shallow inhalations. After Baha I was left with a feeling of dont know how to describe, hiperoxigenation maybe.

Finished POTS, went to bed and had some dreams about love affairs that turned out weird. Slept 8 hours and waken up veeeeery rested, I thought I had overslept. Kinda unlike in the past that when I did the full program it was like having fought a battle, I used to wake up in bad shape.

 

[pete02]

This week, on Monday was similar to last week, with wet eyes during three-stage breathing, and this happened with a group session on Wednesday. Group sessions are certainly more powerful, limbic resonance taking place to heighten the experience. :)

I agree. A couple of weeks ago we also had a group session that seemed to be more powerful for me as well. There were only four of us but for some reason my meditation dropped deeper than ever before and it seems to have remained that way now for me. The silence in my mind is much more quiet and I am experiencing some sort of vibration that is a bit unsettling to be honest. It makes me want to shiver and I thought this would make it more difficult to meditate properly but it doesn't. Perhaps it is a release building up but I'll just have to wait and see.

 

[Iron]

Since last week I have been feeling a diffuse anger, belonging to no specific object. Stated after a full session two weeks ago and it is now just under the surface influencing my thinking. So far , I avoided for the most part to externally manifest it, but in thoughts I havent been so lucky.

 

[Gawan]

Since last week I have been feeling a diffuse anger, belonging to no specific object. Stated after a full session two weeks ago and it is now just under the surface influencing my thinking. So far , I avoided for the most part to externally manifest it, but in thoughts I havent been so lucky.

When this anger during EE comes up, have you also a pillow next to you, that you could punch to release it? Or maybe shout it out during the warriors-breath.

My two cents.

 

[Galaxia2002]

Since last week I have been feeling a diffuse anger, belonging to no specific object. Stated after a full session two weeks ago and it is now just under the surface influencing my thinking. So far , I avoided for the most part to externally manifest it, but in thoughts I havent been so lucky.

When this anger during EE comes up, have you also a pillow next to you, that you could punch to release it? Or maybe shout it out during the warriors-breath.

My two cents.

What one should to do if the anger has name and surname, e.i my father? should I imagine punch him? The last time I felt angry was because I remembered what he was done me as I said above. This memory comes suddenly during EE. While I punched the pillow I swear and even cursed him and the thing is that I still live with him, although until the moment I am not fell that that memory has changed my perception of him which is already damaged since I was child. I never made me illusions respect changes for better in our relationship.

 

[cubbex]

Since last week I have been feeling a diffuse anger, belonging to no specific object. Stated after a full session two weeks ago and it is now just under the surface influencing my thinking. So far , I avoided for the most part to externally manifest it, but in thoughts I havent been so lucky.

When this anger during EE comes up, have you also a pillow next to you, that you could punch to release it? Or maybe shout it out during the warriors-breath.

My two cents.

The most problematic thing is that sometimes anger doesn't show up in that moment, sometimes is the next day if something barely makes you angry, you become hulk or some kind of savage hungrier monster... ok not so extreme, but is sometimes even dangerous, for me it was not so long. But now those feelings don't appear

 

[Gawan]

Since last week I have been feeling a diffuse anger, belonging to no specific object. Stated after a full session two weeks ago and it is now just under the surface influencing my thinking. So far , I avoided for the most part to externally manifest it, but in thoughts I havent been so lucky.

When this anger during EE comes up, have you also a pillow next to you, that you could punch to release it? Or maybe shout it out during the warriors-breath.

My two cents.

What one should to do if the anger has name and surname, e.i my father? should I imagine punch him? The last time I felt angry was because I remembered what he was done me as I said above. This memory comes suddenly during EE. While I punched the pillow I swear and even cursed him and the thing is that I still live with him, although until the moment I am not fell that that memory has changed my perception of him which is already damaged since I was child. I never made me illusions respect changes for better in our relationship.

IMO yes, when these feelings are coming up right at this moment (during EE), otherwise you judge these urges and suppress them again. The beatha part is designed for that, giving you space for your emotions (i.e. sorrow, sadness, anger and also the positive ones).

Since last week I have been feeling a diffuse anger, belonging to no specific object. Stated after a full session two weeks ago and it is now just under the surface influencing my thinking. So far , I avoided for the most part to externally manifest it, but in thoughts I havent been so lucky.

When this anger during EE comes up, have you also a pillow next to you, that you could punch to release it? Or maybe shout it out during the warriors-breath.

My two cents.

The most problematic thing is that sometimes anger doesn't show up in that moment, sometimes is the next day if something barely makes you angry, you become hulk or some kind of savage hungrier monster... ok not so extreme, but is sometimes even dangerous, for me it was not so long. But now those feelings don't appear

Have you tried to watch this feeling (what caused it) or did you use it for something productive?

 

[cubbex]

It happened two or three months ago. Yeah, I did use it for something productive. I was saying that to be careful when you do the complete EE session, because sometimes you are at the edge of your feelings. But then if you practice you can control them better.