Éiriú-Eolas - Breathing Program

Also want to ask if during pipe breath you are concentrating on the inhalation in your glottis and diaphragm rather than your nostrils? Trying to pull the air in from your nostril can also cause what you're describing. In other words emphasize the in flow of air in your pharyngeal passage as it is being pulled in by your diaphragm rather than sucking in air at the opening of the nostrils.



I always start by breathing in through my nose to get the right feel going, but after several breaths I begin to feel some real stress due to lack of oxygen, it is at this point that I have to switch to open mouth breathing to continue.

I have always had nasal problems, cauterization's from severe bleeding as a child, possible allergies etc. So it`s not a new thing, it just seems to be even more pronounced then usual when I try to do the EE properly because so much depends on easy and free inhalation that I become much more aware of it and frustrated that I have this problem.

So I`ll just relax and start over, allowing the transfer to mouth breathing to happen, yet keeping the tension and the correct feel as closely as possible while doing that.

It`s difficult and frustrating to even attempt to pull air into my diaphragm through my nose.

I am working on several things to correct this problem, though in the end it might require a surgery that I hoped to avoid.
 
brainwave said:
Steller, have you tried warrior's breath in the shower with steamy warm water flowing? The place I used to live in was very dusty and I used to wake up stuffy and sometimes with a cough. The shower with warrior's breath cleared things up quite well.

brainwave
No, I haven't tried that yet. The only way I have been able to do the whole breathing session is to lay flat on my back. Maybe it's a gravity thing with the breathing. I feel very 'heavy' and unable to relax unless my body is horizontal. :/
I'm still thinking that it is more to do with 'inner issues' that I need to identify and work on.
 
Last POTS, I was asking during breathing and then meditation for a help, or ideas or whatever about several issues in my life. No specific answer came, but I began to think about each phrase of the meditation, how it could be applied in each situation, each issue or problem. Then I began to think that the answer (or at least part of the answer) was to live the Prayer Of The Soul all day, all time, each issue, each struggle, every moment. To apply what is said in each phrase, then several ideas came to mind on how to solve, or at least how to begin to solve some of those issues. Then wet eyes, and a feeling of joy.

Besides that, some flashes of golden, red, orange and purple lights.
 
Pete said:
Liberty said:
In the past I have felt that the Baha part was too long and was wishing it to be over or at times stopping as my nose felt like it couldn't cope with the amount of air that was trying to pass in and out. This week I have found myself surprised to hear Laura's voice and the pots session beginning. At last the Baha has begun to be an established and welcome part of EE.

Just a quick check Liberty but you are breathing in through the nose and out through the mouth right? The whole EE program works that way.

Sorry Pete, must have been a Freudian slip, just thinking nose but yes I am breathing in through my nose and out through my mouth. The problem for me has been about a restriction or perceived restriction in my right nostril, since practising the full EE this week daily I have found that my right nostril has cleared and feels like it has the same capabilities of the left nostril. Which feels a lot more balanced and beneficial. This I hope will follow into the ears with repeated breathing.

When I was 9 years old I had my adenoids removed and my sinus drained as I had suffered with severe headaches for over a year. The experience of this operation was quite traumatic at the time due to the hospital procedure. My parents booked me into hospital and then left immediately, picking me up the following day. I was not prepared for this, I felt alone and abandoned, after the operation I sicked up loads of blood and felt rotten. A minor detail at the time was being forced to wear a hospital night shirt, this shirt tied up at the back but not properly so revealed your backside as soon as you got out of bed. I found this an unnecessary and embarassing situation.

I will need to spend a lot more time reading through the various threads on sinus problems as many folk on the forum seem to have suffered but wanted to respond intially. I also will benefit from Peter Levines book the "Unspoken Voice"which is on order.

My headaches disappeared but the following year I was ill for 8 weeks with glandular fever and on a course of antibiotics. Helping my body to recover from this took many, many years and it was only in my twenties that I spent 6 months doing an anti candida diet, which really helped clear my system. I have only once had to take antibiotics since due to blood poisoning.

This morning I woke suddenly from a dream. I gently rubbed my right nostril with my hand and a bee came out. It just sat on my hand for a moment and then flew off completely unaffected. I was surprised that this was possible and then realised that it was a dream. Hope this is not to random.

Nienna Eluch said:
Liberty said:
My joint pain does seem to come and go from one day to the next and so think that I should also be checking diet again and probably cutting the night shade group of foods, so will need to again review recipes and meal ideas as a life with no potatoes, tomatoes, aubergine is getting emptier and my weight loss is on going.

Any advise greatly appreciated.

I think that it would do you a lot of good to read the "Life Without Bread" and "The Vegetarian Myth" threads.

Thank you Nienna Eluch, I 've been working my way through these threads and will have to order both of these books. I've allowed my weight to dip down too low so need to spend time on getting the balance right. Particularly this week my weight loss has been become more apparent and would think it's connected to the EE being practised this week and my body clearing toxins.

Emotionally and physically the EE is helping to clear my head, and now that I have made this part of my life, rather then restricting and denying this through the sabotage predator in me, changes are happening and now I am able to see more, what has been going on in my life.
The FAQ on EE has also been a very beneficial thread and thank you all for your shared experiences and advise.
 
I experienced a strong buzzing sensation in my head, hands and body, similar to pins and needles, after doing the round breathing. So far, no visions or flashes or recovered past memories. Maybe because I haven't paid to watch it yet. :-[ I am going to fork out soon!
 
cassandra said:
I experienced a strong buzzing sensation in my head, hands and body, similar to pins and needles, after doing the round breathing. So far, no visions or flashes or recovered past memories. Maybe because I haven't paid to watch it yet. :-[ I am going to fork out soon!

Funniest comment I have ever read, lol. Perhaps, your hyperventilating? that causes similar sensations for me. I'm not sure if its too much oxygen or not enough.

EDIT: Mind you I have not as yet started the program, still waiting for it to arrive in the mail. (Very Excited) So these occurences could be apart of the program. So we should wait till someone experienced answers this question.

Regards,

Chaps
 
Buzzing sensations during EE is fairly common.

A search on this thread alone yields over twenty posts.

Increased levels of oxygen could be one explanation, opening of chi blockages could be another.
 
cassandra said:
I experienced a strong buzzing sensation in my head, hands and body, similar to pins and needles, after doing the round breathing. So far, no visions or flashes or recovered past memories. Maybe because I haven't paid to watch it yet. :-[ I am going to fork out soon!

Lol!

Yes, the visions, revelations and integration of past-lives come after you've paid up ;)

Joking aside, don't expect any miracles from this program. All sorts of things have happened to different people, but the common factor leading to improvements in their lives has been consistent application.
 
The Cs did say that people who expect something for nothing will be blocked. There is a need for an equal energetic exchange, and that in 3D terms, money= energy.
And I ain't paid up yet. :(
 
cassandra said:
The Cs did say that people who expect something for nothing will be blocked. There is a need for an equal energetic exchange, and that in 3D terms, money= energy.
And I ain't paid up yet. :(

If your current life situation does not able you to pay in some way to this community, money-wise, there are still other ways of 'paying'. See this post for example. And you don't have to buy the DVD per se, if you really can't, you could also give a small donation. Or you can ask if you could buy the DVD for less.

And in addition to that, patience and perseverance (and no anticipation) with the program pays too!
 
cassandra said:
I experienced a strong buzzing sensation in my head, hands and body, similar to pins and needles, after doing the round breathing. So far, no visions or flashes or recovered past memories. Maybe because I haven't paid to watch it yet. :-[ I am going to fork out soon!

I think paying up is what kniall says. Constant application, an effort to change your life.
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This last sunday I did the program without the BA-HA part, because I was going to travel and be a little stressed, but finally, out of a stressed home situation, but after doing it, memories and feelings were pouring out of my heart, it was so long that I hadn't sad feelings, I cried just few moments, because I needed to go into the car to the airport, but that day was like just boring with a blank feeling, just blank after the sad memories, the sad feelings were like a wave, like energy piercing in my chest and throat. I was just falling in flames and then into the deeps of ocean just contemplating just there. I was sad by a current self-deception... sometimes I feel like I am advancing, and sometimes I feel like I am shutting down, going down rather than up, and that sometimes it was a better option to keep silent and sleep, instead of knowing all this things, because being sleep I was able to be part of a group, friends or family, it doesn't matter. Feeling alone it's not a real problem right now, but livng the unknown is kinda fun.

There are lot of things to learn about diet, the upcoming changes, etc. But I don't know now where I have to go now to learn about me, about the self. I think I need to contemplate and as I had always, resolve this, what's the next stage? keep living in this world of A influences? nah that's boring, I can't even think about it, I need to learn more I feel it, changing my external situation won't change my internal situation I think.

:) And I thought that without ba-ha portion no real changes may occur, I really didn't remember that those two parts of the program are heart cleaning methods.
 
After several years detoxing, constant improvements in diet, working on myself and EE I find that I don't know myself anymore. Who is this person that I am becoming?

Where is the man that believed that fruits and vegetable are the healthiest diet? The one who thought he was smarter and more well-read than others? Who thought that changing to new habits "programs" was an advancement? Who believed that he was an advanced spiritual being?

Each day, thanks to emotional detoxing of EE, I find working with others a little easier. I feel "cleaner" in many ways. I am learning to trust myself to do the right thing. And if I don't many times I can see the program I was running when I did not behave well.

Life is still very rough sometimes. But doing pipe breathing and POTS every has given me small glimmers each day of what is possible. The feeling that many things are possible if I can get control of mechanical thoughts.
Some mornings I actually find myself looking forward to the day rather than dreading it as I have for so many years.

The grand experiment continues.

Mac
 
Uh oh . I just found a post by Laura in this thread that I got to by another thread and now I have a question .
Laura's post is here:
And just so ya'll know, when the emotional center does finally start opening and letting stuff go, you will KNOW it. There will be no mistaking it. You won't be writing saying "oh, I had this funny thing or that funny thing happen... was that it?" No, indeed... you will feel like you are in the middle of an emotional hurricane and need to tie yourself to a tree to remain standing. You may feel like your solar plexus has opened a hole the size of a dinner plate and the winds of the universe and time are blowing through you.


Now, my problem is, this exact thing happened to me about 10 years ago through another type of belly breathing I was doing from a book I have mentioned this experience a couple of times here before:


EH
The breathing certaing helps a lot. When I first started working on myself I did a breathing exercise that was supposed to release buried emotion ( I cant remember the name now) but it is similar to EE. It exploded out of me as I was very stuffed up. I felt like I had a gaping hole in my solar plexus for about 3 weeks after that inital relase. Deep dry sobs for 3-4 hours. So I know that EE is very beneficial.


This was from this thread: Self observation


I have always driven myself crazy wondering what that was. ( the answer has been here for a long time too, lol)
Now, when this happened to me, I had no clue what the heck it was. After about three weeks of it I went and had reikki done because I thought something was really wrong with me. Is that ok, yall think? Did I mess up?


Secondly, I am having weird stuff going on with my lower extremities. From reading, I think it may be related to the fight or flight response and it is working itself out but I don't know. I am getting a lot of internal heat often, and like rushes of energy , and tingling, and my legs are shaking in weird ways on and off. This has been going on , on and off, for a couple of weeks now . It happens most outside of breathing. The shaking part reminds me of Levines work in the snatches that I have read that Obyvatal's has posted . What is weird, is that when I had the experience above with the solar plexus, the enrge radiated down to above my knees, then stopped. In the last few weeks, it has picked up where it left off and completed down to the bottom of my feet. This is just as intense as the first tjhing it that it has been weeks now. Anyone have a clue?

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Are there any plans currently, or in the near future to have EE courses in Florida? I am in the process of watching the video to learn the techniques.

Ona.Alicia
 
Today's session was kinda wierd for me. I did have a lot of thoughts running through my head but I tried my best to let them drift away like clouds, sometimes imagining them on a white slate that I would wipe clean from time to time to try to focus better. While doing the Beatha portion today every time I would breathe in deep I would feel for lack of a better word a wave that would start at my head and go down. I play with that sensation a lot, yet today it all seemed to go through my body and down into my left leg. It felt like a cast. It felt kind of warm but not hot and it just enveloped my leg from the knee down the entire time. Never had that happen before. Well let me put it another way. Since I discovered how to play with that wave so to speak I would try to push it through certain parts of my body like down into my right arm or left leg or just through my whole body. I never could get it to go down into my left leg. It always seemed to stop at the knee. Perhaps it is from the nerve damage that is right below the knee to the bottom of my foot. I don't really know but that would be my guess. Either way I was kinda happy that it actually went below my knee into the leg. Another thing I did notice was that my arms didn't get tired during the 3 stage portion and for once I didn't get angry at any time.


Cheers JCB
 

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