Éiriú-Eolas - Breathing Program

[Ollie]

It’s been an interesting week regarding EE experiences. On Monday, yawning and wet-eyes during three-stage pipe breathing, followed by something similar during Beatha, with the wet-eyes turning into tears and the toes of my right foot becoming restless – so I let them have their way. During PotS, the restless spread to both legs, again this was allowed to happen freely (based on Levine’s (In an Unspoken Voice) transformational process).

On Thursday, whilst yawning and having wet-eyes during Beatha in round one I became aware of a green light in the region of my third eye, something that I’ve not seen for quite a while; during round two, I experienced a slight feeling of overwhelm; and during round three, I ended up – unconsciously - going into belly breathing.

 

[beetlemaniac]

I think one of the things that made EE so amazing for me is the way a relationship between your mind and body starts to form. It's like being taught by the body about the body. It was trying to teach me all my life, but being body-deaf due to narcissistic programming, I failed to realise my body's innate wisdom and allowed it to deteriorate and burdening it with all kinds of toxins.

Maybe through this objective knowledge of the body, our centers naturally start to function the way they were meant to, resulting in an overall balance which seems to be what is key to becoming more STO.

 

[Mrs.Tigersoap]

Thank you very much, Mrs. Tigersoap, for sharing this.

I've just started the program regularly (without the beatha every day, just once a week) since the EE course in Terrassa at the beginning of the month and I still don't feel nothing special (no visions, no lights, no energy). Just a relaxed state. Maybe it is too early or maybe I am conscious or unconsciously fighting against it.

I felt some things when practicing it in group, maybe I was more relaxed then. It was a week-end and I wasn't thinking about my work.

Now when I am practicing it alone, I realize that sometimes I am thinking in many others things instead of being concentrated in the breath or the pots.

Nevertheless your post has helped me to realize that I should stay calm and be patient.

I will be reporting from time to time my discoveries.

Greetings to everybody.

You're welcome, Miguel! FWIW, maybe you also feel some things when practicing in a group setting because of limbic resonance? I personally never practice by myself because I always practice with my husband. I should give it a try once, though, to see the difference. You are right to be patient and not expect anything, because anyway, these lights, faces, scenes that I was seeing are in fact not relevant. As has been said in this thread somewhere, this is a 'phase' and tends to distract more than anything else if you focus on it for too long. Some people (and I don't mean you!) focus on these as if it was the aim of the journey when in fact they are, in esoteric terms, merely 'stations'. I used to be impatient as well, with the zoning out and I wanted to zone out really badly, since everybody was doing it! I was wondering what was wrong with me, etc. . Turned out, I did zone out after a while and it was nice but it did not last long and I feel good and relaxed whether I zone out or not. All these things are not clues that something is happening. What is is what you feel, especially between sessions. Everyone is different so everyone's path is different as well.

That's at least how I understand it at the moment. Hope this helps!

 

[miguel angel]

Doing EE in a group is wonderful, isn't it? :) So limbic resonance can be like a little bit like magic.

Indeed! :)

Just wondering, are you doing also the warm up exercises before EE, so that you get eventually more prepared for relaxation?

Well, not actually.

I'd forgotten that the warm up exercises before EE were an essential part of the program.

I've practiced yesterday without the beatha & today with it and I warmed up before in both. And... what a change!

I've felt much more relaxed & calmed while doing it and without pain in my neck. Besides I've not been thinking too much as I've done the last times and I've been just concentrated in the audio & in my breath.

I've felt some very shorts spasms in different parts of my body: left hand, right leg, right eyelid and somewhere else I can't recall now. I am not sure what they mean. Maybe the vagus nerve is working or my body is telling me sth.

Hi Miguel :)

It occurs to me that maybe you can try to remember how you felt at that time, (I for example remember that growing sense of safeness to explore and let things happen), while keeping in mind that even if you may be alone in your home, many others are also practicing EE around the world, and so, there is still union.

Thank you very much, Ana. I've followed your advice as well and it's worked too.

You are right to be patient and not expect anything, because anyway, these lights, faces, scenes that I was seeing are in fact not relevant.

As has been said in this thread somewhere, this is a 'phase' and tends to distract more than anything else if you focus on it for too long.

Some people (and I don't mean you!) focus on these as if it was the aim of the journey when in fact they are, in esoteric terms, merely 'stations'.

I used to be impatient as well, with the zoning out and I wanted to zone out really badly, since everybody was doing it! I was wondering what was wrong with me, etc. .

Turned out, I did zone out after a while and it was nice but it did not last long and I feel good and relaxed whether I zone out or not. All these things are not clues that something is happening. What is is what you feel, especially between sessions. Everyone is different so everyone's path is different as well.

That's at least how I understand it at the moment. Hope this helps!

It helps a lot. Now I am not focused in faces, scenes, etc..

Now I am just breathing, relaxing & letting my body to react with the breathing & the pots without anticipation of the result.

 

[beetlemaniac]

I've felt some very shorts spasms in different parts of my body: left hand, right leg, right eyelid and somewhere else I can't recall now. I am not sure what they mean. Maybe the vagus nerve is working or my body is telling me sth.

According to Peter Levine's "In an Unspoken Voice," (as mentioned by Trevrizent in his post above) these trembling sensations seem to be product of the bodies many instinctive functions and should be allowed to manifest naturally, I think it's a sign of the body processing trauma and stress. You might want to read that book, I have been checking it out on Google preview, the first chapter is a really enjoyable read.

Now I am just breathing, relaxing & letting my body to react with the breathing & the pots without anticipation of the result.

I think that's a good attitude to have :)

 

[Oxajil]

Is it possible I might be picking random things up during EE? For example, during the 3-stage-breathing, all of a sudden I saw a very brief image of a dark-skinned child sitting at a table eating breakfast/lunch. I was a bit surprised, but I just carried on. I usually get these when I do a distant-EE with another person. Maybe while trying to 'connect' to the other person, I'm picking other things up? Usually I'd see one or two images per session (but not always).

Don't know, thought I'd share!

 

[OrangeScorpion]

I've felt some very shorts spasms in different parts of my body: left hand, right leg, right eyelid and somewhere else I can't recall now. I am not sure what they mean. Maybe the vagus nerve is working or my body is telling me sth.

According to Peter Levine's "In an Unspoken Voice," (as mentioned by Trevrizent in his post above) these trembling sensations seem to be product of the bodies many instinctive functions and should be allowed to manifest naturally, I think it's a sign of the body processing trauma and stress. You might want to read that book, I have been checking it out on Google preview, the first chapter is a really enjoyable read.

Thanks for the recommendation. I searched online and found information from this author in my own language, Spanish.

www.ninosindigochile.cl/prensa/curareltrauma.pdf

http://experienciasomatica.wordpress.com/2011/04/05/textos-de-peter-levine-traducidos/

It's very interesting because the author also speaks of the three centers following the ideas of Gurdjieff and Mouravieff.

 

[beetlemaniac]

It's very interesting because the author also speaks of the three centers following the ideas of Gurdjieff and Mouravieff.

I didn't realise he'd go in that deep! I must get that book!

 

[miguel angel]

According to Peter Levine's "In an Unspoken Voice," (as mentioned by Trevrizent in his post above) these trembling sensations seem to be product of the bodies many instinctive functions and should be allowed to manifest naturally, I think it's a sign of the body processing trauma and stress. You might want to read that book, I have been checking it out on Google preview, the first chapter is a really enjoyable read.

Thank you beetlemaniac! I'll try to get the book and I'll follow your/its advice: I'll allow them to manifest naturally.

Thanks for the recommendation. I searched online and found information from this author in my own language, Spanish.

www.ninosindigochile.cl/prensa/curareltrauma.pdf

http://experienciasomatica.wordpress.com/2011/04/05/textos-de-peter-levine-traducidos/

It's very interesting because the author also speaks of the three centers following the ideas of Gurdjieff and Mouravieff.

Hi OrangeScorpion! I hope everything is ok ;)

Thank you for the info. By the way, the link www.ninosindigochile.cl/prensa/curareltrauma.pdf is not working (at least for me) because it appears a 44 pages document all in blank.

Big hug!

 

[OrangeScorpion]

Hi Miguel! All is well. Terrasa left me full of energy and opened me several doors...

The link works for me, must be some restriction in your browser ... anyway, is a summary of the book.
Searching the Internet I found a page where sell the book in Spanish:


www.donlibro.net “Curar el trauma” de Peter Levine. The book "In an Unspoken Voice" isn't available in Spanish.


After reading the summary, I think this book will be very revealing to me. And the practice of EE can help me in this dark world of traumas.

Hugs... y a seguir respirando!!!

 

[Ollie]

This week the emotional release seems to be increasing. On Monday, yawning and wet-eyes during three-stage breathing, continued into Beatha, with the wet-eye turning into tears from my right eye, and continuing into PotS with tears rolling down my face and problems with swallowing. Then on Thursday, it was similar, with the exception of the tears, whilst during PotS, my shoulders were trembling - both left and right.

 

[Aiming]

I've only recently received Peter Levine's In an Unspoken Voice and have only read a few pages so far. However, I was lying on my bed recently when suddenly there came up images of past situations of various types of abuse from pathological men and while back then I was neither aware of the nature of what was happening and thus not able to react appropriately, this time, when being confronted with those memories, I simply listened to what my body wanted to do: I kicked and hit the person in my mental view, with all the force I could summon while I was feeling rage. However, that didn't seem to be enough, it seemed I needed to run away from that danger, and I did 'run away' (= moving my legs as if running away). This had the most curious effect of relief and of tension resolving. I'm curious to see whether more of this will be needed to fully resolve this theme.

So I'm already really fascinated by the little I know of Levine's approach and am looking forward to reading the whole book. It really seems this is a very effective technique for dealing with what is coming up via doing EE.

 

[Alana]

Is it possible I might be picking random things up during EE? For example, during the 3-stage-breathing, all of a sudden I saw a very brief image of a dark-skinned child sitting at a table eating breakfast/lunch. I was a bit surprised, but I just carried on. I usually get these when I do a distant-EE with another person. Maybe while trying to 'connect' to the other person, I'm picking other things up? Usually I'd see one or two images per session (but not always).

Don't know, thought I'd share!

I used to have images of faces or events pop-up in my mind when doing EE in the beginning (not related to me or my experiences), but not anymore. If I recall correctly, others did too, and I think that Laura said something about not focusing on those experiences.

Actually looking to find Laura's quote, I just found the answer through one of your posts, Oxajil ;) :

Your experiences seem common with other EE practitioners. Here's what Laura wrote somewhere in this thread that might be of help to you. You can click on the link (Quote from) to get to the page of this post.

Quote from: http://cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php?topic=12837.msg99743#msg99743

Generally, when certain channels/circuits begin to clear and open, but are not yet tuned, all kinds of stuff gets picked up. It's like turning on a radio receiver or a TV that is "between stations" or receiving interference. You can see faces, hear sounds, experience all kinds of interdimensional stuff. The key is to not get distracted by that stuff. Keep your eyes and focus on the light/knowledge.

One thing I don't understand though, from what you wrote above, concerns the part I highlighted. How do you try to connect through EE with another person?

 

[Oxajil]

I used to have images of faces or events pop-up in my mind when doing EE in the beginning (not related to me or my experiences), but not anymore. If I recall correctly, others did too, and I think that Laura said something about not focusing on those experiences.

Ah yes! This one seemed different, somehow.. But thanks for the reminder! :)

One thing I don't understand though, from what you wrote above, concerns the part I highlighted. How do you try to connect through EE with another person?

Well, it's just doing EE with another person at the same time, and both may try to focus on and help with each other's problems during EE without anticipating. That's all.

 

[anart]

Well, it's just doing EE with another person at the same time, and both may try to focus on and help with each other's problems during EE without anticipating. That's all.

I think, in your situation, Oxajil, that it would be much wiser to focus on your own problems and balancing your own issues rather than trying to involve someone else. Before we can help others, we must clean our own machines.