Éiriú-Eolas - Breathing Program

[Turgon]

Last night I did the full EE and it was actually one of the best sessions I've had in a long time. Lately I've been skipping days of doing at the very least Pipe or POTS sometimes looking at it like I have to, which has affected my focus on it. But last night I was actually looking forward to doing the full session on my own in a while and knowing it was Monday, that members were doing it around the world. I really had this idea of giving a full EE session to myself as a gift that was well deserved.

I didn't focus on trying to zone out or anything, but when I read this

Also too I am able to focus on the technique of the pipe breathing and find I can adjust the constrictions to find that `sweet` spot where I get a very relaxing sensation right down to the soles of my feet... it is very rewarding.

focused to find that 'sweet spot' where I can feel the tension release all over my body. I remember everything vividly during Pipe and Baha, but I'm sure I zoned out during the prayer as I barely remember anything except a few verses and the music afterwards.

That night I had a dream of doing battle with some machine in a room, which panned to a woman putting strange items in drinks and trying to get people to drink it. A friend appeared who seemed in this strange emotional high, almost ravenous, that seemed dangerous not only to himself but me, so I tried calming him down but he wouldn't listen. So I punched him in the stomach in order to not let him drink from the drinks. I wasn't angry or anything, it just seemed like what I needed to do to stop him.

I woke up today feeling totally refreshed, I could see it in my face! My energy levels were good and I've been feeling centred and calm throughout. Not once did I get angry, stressed out or flustered ALL DAY!

 

[manitoban]

I woke up today feeling totally refreshed, I could see it in my face! My energy levels were good and I've been feeling centred and calm throughout. Not once did I get angry, stressed out or flustered ALL DAY!

Great news Turgon!

 

[Mrs.Tigersoap]

Just wanted to mention that a few days ago marked the two year anniversary of my first EE!! Time flies when you're having fun :D

It feels so different nowadays: it still calms me down (or sometimes, on the contrary, gives me a burst of energy, the main reason why I no longer practice it at night), but I have long stopped having 'visions' of faces, scenes, lights, etc. I almost never zone out. My favourite part is now the beatha (and the POTS) while back then (two years ago), I used to dread it! I was not doing it properly and I was forcing it which made me out of breath and wheezy really quickly.

I had at first not noticed the changes, but people around me started to tell me that they could see that I was calm even when events were stressful, that I seemed not to sweat the small stuff, etc. And even though I still freak out sometimes, it's true that things feel different. It could also be the change of diet (two years ago I was a vegetarian, thinking I was doing the right thing and eating stuff that just wasn't good for me), the work (tiny victories over the predator's mind), the networking and interaction with the people of this forum or just self-observation but the bottom line is that it's all because of you guys, so thank you for this incredible journey!

 

[Gertrudes]

the networking and interaction with the people of this forum or just self-observation but the bottom line is that it's all because of you guys, so thank you for this incredible journey!

Ditto Mrs Tigersoap, and thanks for this very timely reminder.

Looking back at 2 years ago my life has been changing in such profound ways that I wouldn't have believed it if someone gave me a glimpse of the future by then.
Thank you

 

[beetlemaniac]

Chaps, you are very welcome :)

That's understandable - and you are accepted here. I think a part of you knows that already, now you just have to get all of you on board! One step at a time.

Anart, this really made a whole lot of sense. It's akin to some kind of democracy in our minds, getting more exposure from our family here influences all our different parts to progressively vote "Yes" to join in and share and expand together. I just flipped to a page of ISOTM and finding the phrase "Man is a plurality" really enforced this sense. No wonder I'm always afraid of not doing what I plan to do, I am made up of so many different 'I's! :)

 

[Aliana]

Chaps, you are very welcome :)

That's understandable - and you are accepted here. I think a part of you knows that already, now you just have to get all of you on board! One step at a time.

Anart, this really made a whole lot of sense. It's akin to some kind of democracy in our minds, getting more exposure from our family here influences all our different parts to progressively vote "Yes" to join in and share and expand together. I just flipped to a page of ISOTM and finding the phrase "Man is a plurality" really enforced this sense. No wonder I'm always afraid of not doing what I plan to do, I am made up of so many different 'I's! :)

Thanks for the reminder Anart! For the most part, I know this - but always nice to hear it. Some days the Predator gets really hungry and on those days I feel like I don't know anything

beetlemaniac, I agree - we are like a family and the more we share, the more we grow strong together. It's a great way to think about it. When I am having one of "those days", just reading on the Forum helps to get me back to center and to get some of those I's focused together.

 

[Approaching Infinity]

focused to find that 'sweet spot' where I can feel the tension release all over my body. I remember everything vividly during Pipe and Baha, but I'm sure I zoned out during the prayer as I barely remember anything except a few verses and the music afterwards.

I've found it easier to entire a completely relaxed state. Doesn't happen every time, but when it does, my sensation of my body is completely different. It's hard to describe. While I can still sense all my body parts and even swallow and make slight movements with my head if necessary while still staying in the 'state', at the same time it feels "floaty". It's like my awareness is centered in my heartbeat and "rolls" with each beat as if being carried by the tides. It's a very relaxing and fascinating sensation and feels like my whole body is literally bobbing up and down with each beat.

This is after many months of another strange sensation. This one's harder to describe. There's something about it that reminds me of something, i.e. I have a kind of sense memory of this type of whole-body sensation, but I can't remember when or where I felt it. Basically, it's like my body becomes a thick, hard shell, with a very thin core, which is where the breath comes in and out. Kind of feels like having skin 4 inches thick. Every time it happens it feels SO familiar, but try as I might, I can't place it. While not unpleasant, it's nowhere near as relaxing as the floaty ocean state described above...

Anyone else ever sense anything similar?

 

[beetlemaniac]

This is after many months of another strange sensation. This one's harder to describe. There's something about it that reminds me of something, i.e. I have a kind of sense memory of this type of whole-body sensation, but I can't remember when or where I felt it. Basically, it's like my body becomes a thick, hard shell, with a very thin core, which is where the breath comes in and out. Kind of feels like having skin 4 inches thick. Every time it happens it feels SO familiar, but try as I might, I can't place it. While not unpleasant, it's nowhere near as relaxing as the floaty ocean state described above...

Anyone else ever sense anything similar?

I dare not say that I am completely sure, but I may have had something like that happen to me last Monday. It was the end of my day, I was feeling rather tired that time, planning to do the full program hopefully ending with me fast asleep. That feeling you speak of descended rapidly as I went through the Beatha part. It felt my face becoming all hard and rigid, I felt a strange sense of comfort since I did not have to put so much attention into being still. Although the rigidness of it did seem like something was trying to confine me within my body. I think I was asleep even before finishing Beatha. That gave me some relief since I was suffering from some insomnia for the past few nights. Does this seem similar to what you experienced?

 

[Oxajil]

For the past few weeks the voice (well, it's basically me I think?) in my head has become stronger and more clear, so to speak.

On December 11, 2009, I posted this:

There is a quite powerful ''program'' ''in'' me that runs some times and it's Really Hard to fight it. Sometimes I win, sometimes I lose. And whenever I lose it's devastating.. Many times when the program is running I'm not me. Sometimes my mind is just empty when it's running and sometimes there is someone else pulling the strings, it's pretty scary.

The program was running and I lost control again. So I asked God for a sign, for help. I recited the first few phrases of the POTS. I thought it was probably hopeless, because many times have I fought and lost. But then I heard a voice in my head repeating the words: "This is not what you want. Don't do it. Stand up." (they felt really strong)
I listened to these words and thought ''s/he is right'', I regained control again and felt victory.

Now if I could only hold it...

Now it seems that this voice is almost always present. If I'm viewing something only from my perspective, it tells me to try to put myself in the shoes' of others. It gives me advice, to stay hopeful, to give things time (being patient), to think twice, to stay aware and more. I don't know, but in a way it helps.

The program I spoke of above, is not out of control anymore as it used to be.

 

[beetlemaniac]

For the past few weeks the voice (well, it's basically me I think?) in my head has become stronger and more clear, so to speak.

Reading your post I'm remembering something I wrote in my journal last month, about something I also perceived to be a voice in my head:

Today (1st June), I have come to realise that within my consciousness, there is a voice that seems to guide my thoughts in a certain direction, one of general good. I am not sure if this voice will always remain with me. I am also unsure whether this voice is the voice of conscience or even my Higher Self. This voice tells me thigns through feelings, it is not verbal. It seems like a "non-judging voice of fairness." The first time I noticed this voice (although I remember 'stirrings' of this voice before this) was when I lied to myself, or when I was not having a clear view of the situation, "drowning in the stream of emotion." It tends to guide me to a more truthful, objective awareness.

Seems pretty similar although I seem to have not been able to "pinpoint" and isolate accurately it since then. At that time, recognizing that voice had made me a little overexcited and from then on I started doing the Work in full force. It was quite an experience although I might have gotten carried away with my subjectivity about it's significance. I actually wrote another journal entry after that:

I don't really know what happened to me after "realising" about this voice inside of me. I'm not even sure if it is still here right now. The excitement has worn me out. I definitely felt different interacting with people [on that day]. More detached. Less automatic responses/reactions. This may not be due to any changes in my awareness but simply due to the fact that I was excited about this new 'change' in me. Which I am now a little skeptical about.

That's my completely subjective side of the story, FWIW :)

 

[Approaching Infinity]

I dare not say that I am completely sure, but I may have had something like that happen to me last Monday. It was the end of my day, I was feeling rather tired that time, planning to do the full program hopefully ending with me fast asleep. That feeling you speak of descended rapidly as I went through the Beatha part. It felt my face becoming all hard and rigid, I felt a strange sense of comfort since I did not have to put so much attention into being still. Although the rigidness of it did seem like something was trying to confine me within my body. I think I was asleep even before finishing Beatha. That gave me some relief since I was suffering from some insomnia for the past few nights. Does this seem similar to what you experienced?

That actually sounds quite similar, except I usually don't fall asleep after. Rigid is a good word to describe it; even though I could move any limb if I wanted to, it feels like I couldn't. The feeling of being "confined within my body" is also a good one, except I could not discern any agency to it (i.e. "something trying").

 

[miguel angel]

Just wanted to mention that a few days ago marked the two year anniversary of my first EE!! Time flies when you're having fun :D

It feels so different nowadays: it still calms me down (or sometimes, on the contrary, gives me a burst of energy, the main reason why I no longer practice it at night), but I have long stopped having 'visions' of faces, scenes, lights, etc. I almost never zone out. My favourite part is now the beatha (and the POTS) while back then (two years ago), I used to dread it! I was not doing it properly and I was forcing it which made me out of breath and wheezy really quickly.

I had at first not noticed the changes, but people around me started to tell me that they could see that I was calm even when events were stressful, that I seemed not to sweat the small stuff, etc. And even though I still freak out sometimes, it's true that things feel different. It could also be the change of diet (two years ago I was a vegetarian, thinking I was doing the right thing and eating stuff that just wasn't good for me), the work (tiny victories over the predator's mind), the networking and interaction with the people of this forum or just self-observation but the bottom line is that it's all because of you guys, so thank you for this incredible journey!

Thank you very much, Mrs. Tigersoap, for sharing this.

I've just started the program regularly (without the beatha every day, just once a week) since the EE course in Terrassa at the beginning of the month and I still don't feel nothing special (no visions, no lights, no energy). Just a relaxed state. Maybe it is too early or maybe I am conscious or unconsciously fighting against it.

I felt some things when practicing it in group, maybe I was more relaxed then. It was a week-end and I wasn't thinking about my work.

Now when I am practicing it alone, I realize that sometimes I am thinking in many others things instead of being concentrated in the breath or the pots.

Nevertheless your post has helped me to realize that I should stay calm and be patient.

I will be reporting from time to time my discoveries.

Greetings to everybody.

 

[Gawan]

I felt some things when practicing it in group, maybe I was more relaxed then. It was a week-end and I wasn't thinking about my work.

Doing EE in a group is wonderful, isn't it? :) So limbic resonance can be like a little bit like magic.

Now when I am practicing it alone, I realize that sometimes I am thinking in many others things instead of being concentrated in the breath or the pots.

Just wondering, are you doing also the warm up exercises before EE, so that you get eventually more prepared for relaxation?

Nevertheless your post has helped me to realize that I should stay calm and be patient.

That would be great hearing about your process.

 

[ana]

I felt some things when practicing it in group, maybe I was more relaxed then. It was a week-end and I wasn't thinking about my work.

Now when I am practicing it alone, I realize that sometimes I am thinking in many others things instead of being concentrated in the breath or the pots.

Hi Miguel :)

It occurs to me that maybe you can try to remember how you felt at that time, (I for example remember that growing sense of safeness to explore and let things happen), while keeping in mind that even if you may be alone in your home, many others are also practicing EE around the world, and so, there is still union.

 

[beetlemaniac]

That actually sounds quite similar, except I usually don't fall asleep after. Rigid is a good word to describe it; even though I could move any limb if I wanted to, it feels like I couldn't. The feeling of being "confined within my body" is also a good one, except I could not discern any agency to it (i.e. "something trying").

Sorry, I didn't mean it in that sense. There wasn't any agency to it as far as I could tell. The sensations just came by themselves.