Éiriú-Eolas - Breathing Program

Yesterday, I was too tired/unmotivated to do EE, being somewhat sleep-deprived as well, so I lied down and just pipe breathed for a little bit. Then, I started experiencing the muscle twitching sensations that normally accompanied the PoTS session at the end of EE. Then a little later I zoned out. Thinking about it, it seems that the body is very willing to heal itself when in a tired and inflamed state and it just needs a little stability and calm provided by the pipe breathing in order to start the healing process.
 
Hi guys

Updating EE experiences:

-Well this experience was sometime ago, but i just wanted to share it.

During the POTS i experienced like electric current in my brain and i felt it like impulses, for every electrical impulse i watched a different image (all the images were like stone tablets with writings in an unknown language, the last one image showed a person that was sat like Buddha but i had the sensation it wasn't Buddha it was before Buddha) they were running very fast and i stand watching them but in one specific moment i realized that i was being 'electrified' and i opened the eyes and everything stopped. I don't know if this is usual or not, but it was interesting.

-I'm experiencing like nervous ticks for a long time too (in all body, in all situations, not every day but it's happening for a while). I don't know if this is related to EE too.

- Lately i'm being aware that when i close my eyes in the night, well i see like concentric circles or spiral (don't know what is exactly), before this i watched dark but it was like if 'something' were in movement in the dark. I don't know how explain it better.

Beautiful breathing for all you!
 
pirataloko said:
- Lately i'm being aware that when i close my eyes in the night, well i see like concentric circles or spiral (don't know what is exactly), before this i watched dark but it was like if 'something' were in movement in the dark. I don't know how explain it better.

Beautiful breathing for all you!

I've had very similar experiences. That and a kind of misty green or blue fog looking stuff that sort of has a cycle to it. It comes and fades away, for quite some time.
 
Didn't do the exercises for a while, two or three weeks, mmm maybe two, don't remember really. I have not felt the necessity, I have not been stressed and do not feel to have buried emotions, and I've been learning bunch of things without problems, what I do every day is just the POTS at night.

I liked to see what may be me if I stopped to do them, also I was at the edge of the sword so I took a time.

Greetings people.
 
Prometeo said:
Didn't do the exercises for a while, two or three weeks, mmm maybe two, don't remember really. I have not felt the necessity, I have not been stressed and do not feel to have buried emotions, and I've been learning bunch of things without problems, what I do every day is just the POTS at night.

I liked to see what may be me if I stopped to do them, also I was at the edge of the sword so I took a time.

Greetings people.

Hi Prometeo,

Remember that the really deep beneficial effects of EE are cumulative. You aren't just relieving your tangible stress (though that is happening), you are detoxing the body, and waking up parts of your being you've not been able to access before. But none of this comes with out daily practice of pipe breathing and the POTS.

If "being on the edge of the sword" you mean that you were getting overwhelmed by your emotions, then by all means stop doing the baha breathing. Three-stage breathing and the meditation will get you to the same place, just more slowly and gently. It's good you are still doing the prayer, as that is the foundation of it all, but you are cheating yourself a bit to not also do three-stage breath too. It doesn't take that long, maybe twelve minutes extra, but it can make a huge difference in the quality of your meditation. Now that you've taken your break, maybe start again with the regular program, and let us know how it goes. :)
 
Hi Prometeo

I concur with everything that Herondancer has said, especially the daily practice of pipe breathing and the POTS. It really does pay dividends - there is a lot of beneficial work going on beneath the surface, gently - the results of which may take time to appear - as in my case (and I've been doing EE for over two years now, including a long beak from doing Beatha breathing).

As far as my own experiences go, the emotional release seems to continue, similar to last week, wet eyes to tears throughout, and very wide, long yawning, restless toes, and rather than having a difficulty in swallowing, it was a frequent need to clear my throat.
 
Prometeo said:
Didn't do the exercises for a while, two or three weeks, mmm maybe two, don't remember really. I have not felt the necessity, I have not been stressed and do not feel to have buried emotions,
They're called buried emotions because they're buried. If you knew you had them, they wouldn't be buried... ;)
 
Harold said:
pirataloko said:
- Lately i'm being aware that when i close my eyes in the night, well i see like concentric circles or spiral (don't know what is exactly), before this i watched dark but it was like if 'something' were in movement in the dark. I don't know how explain it better.

Beautiful breathing for all you!

I've had very similar experiences. That and a kind of misty green or blue fog looking stuff that sort of has a cycle to it. It comes and fades away, for quite some time.

I've had the same a few times. Purple, blue and green are the most common colors. Last time I only saw flashes of a particular kind of green. Difficult to explain in words.
 
herondancer said:
Now that you've taken your break, maybe start again with the regular program, and let us know how it goes. :)

Yes I will, maybe I was cheating myself a little, I practiced the three stage almost daily but now I don't know why I stopped. Let's see what happens.

anart said:
Prometeo said:
Didn't do the exercises for a while, two or three weeks, mmm maybe two, don't remember really. I have not felt the necessity, I have not been stressed and do not feel to have buried emotions,
They're called buried emotions because they're buried. If you knew you had them, they wouldn't be buried... ;)

Oh that's true lol
Well I didn't explain myself correctly, I meant that now I do not suppress as before.
 
I have started watching the EE program but find its not really resonating with me as of yet and that each time I try to do the exersize I find myself falling asleep, and loosing concerntration.

What am I doing wrong? is it my subconcious telling me I am not ready? or perhaps my programming rejecting it?

I have the feeling I am the only person who can answer this, but atleast by reading other peoples suggestions I may be able to gather more insight to the situation.
 
chaps23 said:
I have started watching the EE program but find its not really resonating with me as of yet and that each time I try to do the exersize I find myself falling asleep, and loosing concerntration.

What am I doing wrong? is it my subconcious telling me I am not ready? or perhaps my programming rejecting it?

I have the feeling I am the only person who can answer this, but atleast by reading other peoples suggestions I may be able to gather more insight to the situation.

Hi chaps23.

We might be able to help you if you give us a little more information. For example, at which part of the exercises do you fall asleep? And you say that "it is not resonating with you yet", what do you mean? Are you referring specifically to the falling asleep part? What kinds of emotions/associations you experience when you practice the program? How many times have you practiced it so far?

The issue of concentration takes a bit of practice to get better. I had a hard time concentrating too at the beginning, but like Laura says often, it is like a muscle that need to be worked again and again to get stronger. That's also why we say that the effects of the program are cumulative: they appear after regular practice. It also happens that the days that I am inflamed (I ate something that does not agree with my body) my levels of concentration are lower still. So diet plays a part in it too. How is your diet like?

But if you are falling asleep, it means that the relaxation response gets activated in you, no? ;)
 
Alana said:
chaps23 said:
I have started watching the EE program but find its not really resonating with me as of yet and that each time I try to do the exersize I find myself falling asleep, and loosing concerntration.

What am I doing wrong? is it my subconcious telling me I am not ready? or perhaps my programming rejecting it?

I have the feeling I am the only person who can answer this, but atleast by reading other peoples suggestions I may be able to gather more insight to the situation.

Hi chaps23.

We might be able to help you if you give us a little more information. For example, at which part of the exercises do you fall asleep? And you say that "it is not resonating with you yet", what do you mean? Are you referring specifically to the falling asleep part? What kinds of emotions/associations you experience when you practice the program? How many times have you practiced it so far?

The issue of concentration takes a bit of practice to get better. I had a hard time concentrating too at the beginning, but like Laura says often, it is like a muscle that need to be worked again and again to get stronger. That's also why we say that the effects of the program are cumulative: they appear after regular practice. It also happens that the days that I am inflamed (I ate something that does not agree with my body) my levels of concentration are lower still. So diet plays a part in it too. How is your diet like?

But if you are falling asleep, it means that the relaxation response gets activated in you, no? ;)

I agree that it would be helpful if you could describe your experiences a little more. Are you maybe the restless type who just want to "get it done and over with"? I'm not saying that you are, but in today's society many people are finding it hard to give things time, they want things/problems fixed quickly so they can "move on". For example, I've heard many stories from my teacher in body work of clients who come for the first treatment to "fix it", and when they realize that it's a long process and you have to have patience and determination in order to heal your self, they never come back. Another example: I have a relative who suffered for insomnia for years. I suggested that she would try and do some breathing and relaxation (this was before the EE program was introduced) before she'd try to sleep. Okay, so she tried this a couple of evenings, but then she announced to me that it doesn't work because it's too hard, she can't concentrate. I asked more details about her experience, and it turned out that she had to READ something during breathing, because doing JUST breathing was too damn scary!

I too had problems in the beginning, it was hard to concentrate and I wanted to stop the breathing after just a few minutes. I think that this is quite normal, because many of us are not used to just stay put, breathe and meditate - there are parts in us that want to fight this. But in a sense, that's what it's all about I think, cleaning your machine is hard work and it's a battle! In my experience this fighting can manifest just as you say, either by falling asleep/shutting down (maybe the body-mind just can't handle it so it "takes a break") or by loosing concentration. Then there can happen this beneficial thing called 'zoning out', in which you just sort of black out, loosing all sense of time. It is said, that in this zoning out moment you are connecting with your higher self (you can use the search function to read about it in this thread).

It takes time to remove the first layers of resistance. I'm sure that with practicing the EE-program regularly (you don't have to do the whole program every time) you'll "break through". Don't focus on getting immediate results, the accumulated stuff needs to be processed gently and with time, and EE is absolutely the best tool for this. That is at least my experience.
 
Another week of emotional releases appears to be happening. On Monday: yawning and wet eyes during three-stage pipe breathing; continuing into BaHa with drifting off the breathing pattern during speed two; followed by very wide yawning during PotS and wet-eyes turning into tears that ran down my face, and, a restless right foot/big toe that I allowed to do what it wanted to do, just observing. On Thursday, a similar pattern, except that during round two of BaHa I switched to pipe breathing, and during round three zoned out completely – all through PotS.
 
Trevrizent said:
Another week of emotional releases appears to be happening. On Monday: yawning and wet eyes during three-stage pipe breathing; continuing into BaHa with drifting off the breathing pattern during speed two; followed by very wide yawning during PotS and wet-eyes turning into tears that ran down my face, and, a restless right foot/big toe that I allowed to do what it wanted to do, just observing. On Thursday, a similar pattern, except that during round two of BaHa I switched to pipe breathing, and during round three zoned out completely – all through PotS.

And how do you feel while your eyes become wet?
 
Aragorn said:
Alana said:
Hi chaps23.

We might be able to help you if you give us a little more information. For example, at which part of the exercises do you fall asleep? And you say that "it is not resonating with you yet", what do you mean? Are you referring specifically to the falling asleep part? What kinds of emotions/associations you experience when you practice the program? How many times have you practiced it so far?

The issue of concentration takes a bit of practice to get better. I had a hard time concentrating too at the beginning, but like Laura says often, it is like a muscle that need to be worked again and again to get stronger. That's also why we say that the effects of the program are cumulative: they appear after regular practice. It also happens that the days that I am inflamed (I ate something that does not agree with my body) my levels of concentration are lower still. So diet plays a part in it too. How is your diet like?

But if you are falling asleep, it means that the relaxation response gets activated in you, no? ;)

I agree that it would be helpful if you could describe your experiences a little more. Are you maybe the restless type who just want to "get it done and over with"? I'm not saying that you are, but in today's society many people are finding it hard to give things time, they want things/problems fixed quickly so they can "move on". For example, I've heard many stories from my teacher in body work of clients who come for the first treatment to "fix it", and when they realize that it's a long process and you have to have patience and determination in order to heal your self, they never come back. Another example: I have a relative who suffered for insomnia for years. I suggested that she would try and do some breathing and relaxation (this was before the EE program was introduced) before she'd try to sleep. Okay, so she tried this a couple of evenings, but then she announced to me that it doesn't work because it's too hard, she can't concentrate. I asked more details about her experience, and it turned out that she had to READ something during breathing, because doing JUST breathing was too damn scary!

I too had problems in the beginning, it was hard to concentrate and I wanted to stop the breathing after just a few minutes. I think that this is quite normal, because many of us are not used to just stay put, breathe and meditate - there are parts in us that want to fight this. But in a sense, that's what it's all about I think, cleaning your machine is hard work and it's a battle! In my experience this fighting can manifest just as you say, either by falling asleep/shutting down (maybe the body-mind just can't handle it so it "takes a break") or by loosing concentration. Then there can happen this beneficial thing called 'zoning out', in which you just sort of black out, loosing all sense of time. It is said, that in this zoning out moment you are connecting with your higher self (you can use the search function to read about it in this thread).

It takes time to remove the first layers of resistance. I'm sure that with practicing the EE-program regularly (you don't have to do the whole program every time) you'll "break through". Don't focus on getting immediate results, the accumulated stuff needs to be processed gently and with time, and EE is absolutely the best tool for this. That is at least my experience.

Thanyou both for your reply,

I think with out trying to waste anyone else's time regarding this matter I will put these issues down to my dietary situation. After I have sorted this out if these problems stll persist I will then consult with you for assistance. I have to start at the beginning, it is entirely possible that these situations will sort themselves out after my diet is in order or perhaps I may be able to see more clearly and sort these out for myself. In the meantime I will continue to practice EE.

Hungary Jacks are about to loose a #1 Customer.... :P
 

Trending content

Back
Top Bottom