Éiriú-Eolas - Breathing Program
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Miss.K
Dagobah Resident
Hi All,
Just a quick note to say that I did the Éiriú-Eolas following the audio last night for the first time,
I had no trouble falling asleep for the first time in a long time, and today I have a sense that there is possibilities of something good happening, and that there is hope (though the hope is a slippery soap ;)) which I haven't felt in some time.
Thank you Laura from the bottom of my heart
Just a quick note to say that I did the Éiriú-Eolas following the audio last night for the first time,
I had no trouble falling asleep for the first time in a long time, and today I have a sense that there is possibilities of something good happening, and that there is hope (though the hope is a slippery soap ;)) which I haven't felt in some time.
Thank you Laura from the bottom of my heart
Congrats Miss K. on the good results. If you continue to do the program regularly, you may have even better experiences. :)
I haven't posted here in some months. But my EE routine has been pretty regular. Nothing out of the ordinary. I've been adding "requests" between the POTS lines as mentioned elsewhere by Ailén. And it seems to work after a while, I can look back and see where something was "answered".
I haven't posted here in some months. But my EE routine has been pretty regular. Nothing out of the ordinary. I've been adding "requests" between the POTS lines as mentioned elsewhere by Ailén. And it seems to work after a while, I can look back and see where something was "answered".
Lizziespreparetogovegan
Jedi Master
Miss.K said:
This is excellent news Miss. K, where there is Eiriu Eolas there is definitely hope! If you continue to do the program you may well find that it enables you to get in touch with parts of yourself that were previously inaccessible as it's an extremely powerful tool. Good luck on your adventure :)
Pai said:
I'll second that.
For myself, more wet-eyes and big yawns again this week, on Monday turning into tears running down my face during Beatha and PotS. And, a restless left leg and toes. On Thursday, a similar situation, except that it was my shoulder blades that were moving, and during round three of Beatha, I resorted to belly breathing. Outside of the sessions, I’ve experienced sleep problems and the onset of mild panic attacks (instant pipe breathing stops through them), so it’s appropriate to back off from Beatha for week – and see how it goes. On the positive side, my memory seems to be improving with odd flashbacks occurring.
That's wonderful MissK! If you can, try to do at least the three-stage breathing and the meditation every night, as the results are stronger and deeper than just a good night's sleep. There is for sure the "possibliity of something good happening." You will be amazed at the difference in how you feel after a couple of months. Thanks for telling us about it.
anart
A Disturbance in the Force
Miss.K said:Thank you all,
and thank you for this herondancer, I was just wondering if it was recommended to do every night and you had answered my question
Just to clarify, that's only the three-stage breathing (pipe breathing) and the meditation to be done every night if you so choose. The bio-energetic breathing (beatha) should not be done every night and should only be done twice a week, maximum.
Hi all,
Despite being an avid and regular EE practitioner I haven't followed this thread for a long time - mainly because I lost track of the thread and wasn't able to read through all those posts due to their sheer volume. But I have now decided to hook myself in again fully knowing that a lot has been posted that I might not be aware of, so if I say or ask something that has already been discussed, just let me know ...
I do the full EE program twice a week (rarely missing a session) and the breathing and meditation every night before going off to sleep (sometimes sleep overcomes me in the midst of it). I don't know if there have been major changes that I could attribute to this, apart from one thing: I used to get these attacks of rage where I would like "flip a switch" for often very minor occurrences. It seems to me that these episodes have nearly vanished and I haven't had one in ages. Now whether this can be attributed to the EE program or just the "lack of triggers" I don't know.
But one question still remains - and I have asked this question before but so far I haven't been able to resolve it for myself: The question of what mental state I need to or want to be in during the breathing exercises.
I used to do meditation eastern style where the aim is to completely "emtpy" the mind, to slow down the thoughts and ultimately reach "nirwana" the place of nothingness. This has always been a bit of a problem for me and I was never really able or happy to achieve this. In contrast EE meditation is almost the opposite: The mind should not be emptied but focussed on itself - at least that is what my understanding is at present.
But here lies the rub - how do I achieve this? When I do the breathing exercises my mind often drifts away and I start to think about "stuff" and thus enter a sort of "mechanical" way of doing the breathing as opposed to a "mindful" state - or I just plainly "zone out" to "wake up" some time later with no recollection how I got there. To me this seems to be unsatisfactory.
I have tried several things:
I have tried to use certain parts of the breathing to "openly ask" fortune for the group, to use this as a focus. This seemed to somewhat work for awhile, but then I again started to drift off.
At the moment I try to focus on the flow of the breath and this seems to be working for the time being.
I am just interested in your take - and what you do about it. Again, if this has already been discussed here - my apologies!
Despite being an avid and regular EE practitioner I haven't followed this thread for a long time - mainly because I lost track of the thread and wasn't able to read through all those posts due to their sheer volume. But I have now decided to hook myself in again fully knowing that a lot has been posted that I might not be aware of, so if I say or ask something that has already been discussed, just let me know ...
I do the full EE program twice a week (rarely missing a session) and the breathing and meditation every night before going off to sleep (sometimes sleep overcomes me in the midst of it). I don't know if there have been major changes that I could attribute to this, apart from one thing: I used to get these attacks of rage where I would like "flip a switch" for often very minor occurrences. It seems to me that these episodes have nearly vanished and I haven't had one in ages. Now whether this can be attributed to the EE program or just the "lack of triggers" I don't know.
But one question still remains - and I have asked this question before but so far I haven't been able to resolve it for myself: The question of what mental state I need to or want to be in during the breathing exercises.
I used to do meditation eastern style where the aim is to completely "emtpy" the mind, to slow down the thoughts and ultimately reach "nirwana" the place of nothingness. This has always been a bit of a problem for me and I was never really able or happy to achieve this. In contrast EE meditation is almost the opposite: The mind should not be emptied but focussed on itself - at least that is what my understanding is at present.
But here lies the rub - how do I achieve this? When I do the breathing exercises my mind often drifts away and I start to think about "stuff" and thus enter a sort of "mechanical" way of doing the breathing as opposed to a "mindful" state - or I just plainly "zone out" to "wake up" some time later with no recollection how I got there. To me this seems to be unsatisfactory.
I have tried several things:
I have tried to use certain parts of the breathing to "openly ask" fortune for the group, to use this as a focus. This seemed to somewhat work for awhile, but then I again started to drift off.
At the moment I try to focus on the flow of the breath and this seems to be working for the time being.
I am just interested in your take - and what you do about it. Again, if this has already been discussed here - my apologies!
If your mind drifts away, just let it go, avoid focusing on your mind (mindful state); you may like to close your eyes and focus on the 'third eye' too as you breathe. PotS keeps you in the present moment, where you are, in a normal relaxed state - relaxed vigilance. Zoning out, from my understanding is highly beneficial. Focusing on the flow of breath, also helps, from my experience and that of others too. Just let go and take what happens.nicklebleu said:
This may help, or not.
ines
The Force is Strong With This One
Some new experience and some help please:
I am more fearful in the last time.
I tend to think that it is related to EE and I would be very pleased if there are
somebody with an advice if this could be some sort of dissolution/solving/break-up (sorry, don't know the appropriate word in English for that) or so?
Not that I can't bear it but I can't control it and I am normal not THAT fearful.
I would also appreciate an advice how to handle with such a situation (Just let-it-be or something like that? Will it go away from alone when time goes by by doing EE regularly?)
For Example:
I am laying in bed at night, hear some noises, nothing spectacular, but seemingly something inside interprets this noises as "danger", and suddenly my heartbeat increased, I felt "fear" in my hole body, I said to myself to calming down: "Hey, the door is locked, and it sounds just like a car on the street or so", but it doesn't really help and I don't understood this fear. Some minutes later the "same game" again, my adrenalin-level got so high that I got up, smoking a cigarette and reading a bit. (would like to add that I am now reading "In an Unspoken Voice", by Peter Levine, some of the written touched me that evening and some tears came up, but with no special thoughts or so)
Or last week, I saw a flash in front of the house (I was inside), I started screaming and running, and heartbeat increased tremendous. (But I am generally fearful of thunderstorms)
Or sometimes, when I am for example reading and my telephone rings, I startle up. For no current reason.
Thank you!
I am more fearful in the last time.
I tend to think that it is related to EE and I would be very pleased if there are
somebody with an advice if this could be some sort of dissolution/solving/break-up (sorry, don't know the appropriate word in English for that) or so?
Not that I can't bear it but I can't control it and I am normal not THAT fearful.
I would also appreciate an advice how to handle with such a situation (Just let-it-be or something like that? Will it go away from alone when time goes by by doing EE regularly?)
For Example:
I am laying in bed at night, hear some noises, nothing spectacular, but seemingly something inside interprets this noises as "danger", and suddenly my heartbeat increased, I felt "fear" in my hole body, I said to myself to calming down: "Hey, the door is locked, and it sounds just like a car on the street or so", but it doesn't really help and I don't understood this fear. Some minutes later the "same game" again, my adrenalin-level got so high that I got up, smoking a cigarette and reading a bit. (would like to add that I am now reading "In an Unspoken Voice", by Peter Levine, some of the written touched me that evening and some tears came up, but with no special thoughts or so)
Or last week, I saw a flash in front of the house (I was inside), I started screaming and running, and heartbeat increased tremendous. (But I am generally fearful of thunderstorms)
Or sometimes, when I am for example reading and my telephone rings, I startle up. For no current reason.
Thank you!
Hi Ines,
Just to say that I also experience these things that you have described. But I think that I suffer or used to suffer from PTSD, although there was no official diagnosis.
Have you never had this before?
You may have touched upon some memories or past experiences through EE, which leaves you startled. Could that have happened? Some experiences that you were not aware of, but that left you feeling afraid.
I have felt much more sensitive in several areas these past few days. I feel exposed a bit, but that is probably because these sensations are new to me.
All the best.
Just to say that I also experience these things that you have described. But I think that I suffer or used to suffer from PTSD, although there was no official diagnosis.
Have you never had this before?
You may have touched upon some memories or past experiences through EE, which leaves you startled. Could that have happened? Some experiences that you were not aware of, but that left you feeling afraid.
I have felt much more sensitive in several areas these past few days. I feel exposed a bit, but that is probably because these sensations are new to me.
All the best.
I suffered a massive panic attack last night. These are not new to me, although I didn't have any during these first few months of EE.
I am reading The UltraMind Solution, so I will be looking into the foods that I am eating.
I am under the impression that it was a dream/memory that woke me up and that started this attack. First I had a sharp pain in the back of my head and then I started obsessing that I most surely was going to die this time.
I sat up. I started feeling clearer in my head (literally) while doing pipe breaths and then realised that I was not going to die, that I was probably experiencing old trauma. Then it felt as if I had something tight wrapped around my head. I saw someone (a nurse, doctor?) doing something to my head.
But then I got a slight headache and stopped. Started reciting POTS and that helped.
Based on what I glued together from dreams and flashbacks it is highly probable I did almost die and I was rushed to hospital.
Should I stop Beatha or continue, since I have had these attacks, as long as I can remember? The attacks are very unpleasant, but I can deal with them. Most of the time I realise (after a short while) that I am not going to die.
I am reading The UltraMind Solution, so I will be looking into the foods that I am eating.
I am under the impression that it was a dream/memory that woke me up and that started this attack. First I had a sharp pain in the back of my head and then I started obsessing that I most surely was going to die this time.
I sat up. I started feeling clearer in my head (literally) while doing pipe breaths and then realised that I was not going to die, that I was probably experiencing old trauma. Then it felt as if I had something tight wrapped around my head. I saw someone (a nurse, doctor?) doing something to my head.
But then I got a slight headache and stopped. Started reciting POTS and that helped.
Based on what I glued together from dreams and flashbacks it is highly probable I did almost die and I was rushed to hospital.
Should I stop Beatha or continue, since I have had these attacks, as long as I can remember? The attacks are very unpleasant, but I can deal with them. Most of the time I realise (after a short while) that I am not going to die.
Hi ines,
How often are you doing the full version of EE? Bear in mind that for Beatha breathing, it is recommended that this is only practiced twice a week as a maximum. It may be that you have triggered something within that is a little too powerful for your body to accommodate at the present time. You may like to stop doing Beatha for a while to see if this has any effect on your experiences, and then resume Beatha at a later date when things have 'calmed' down.
Remember, that Beatha works on both the physical and the emotional level, disrupting rigid patterns in the brain, gently releasing layers of emotional toxicity; the hurts and pains.
Also, when you get these experiences of 'feeling fear', 'startle up', etc., immediately doing pipe breaths will help to calm you down, to reduce your adrenal level and heartbeat rate;with the release of oxytocin. Also, to 'talk' to (to distract) your rational mind, you may like to recite PotS, rather than saying words of self-calming, and your unconscious mind will know what to do, as it is tied in with the somatic experience of breathing.
This may help, or not.
How often are you doing the full version of EE? Bear in mind that for Beatha breathing, it is recommended that this is only practiced twice a week as a maximum. It may be that you have triggered something within that is a little too powerful for your body to accommodate at the present time. You may like to stop doing Beatha for a while to see if this has any effect on your experiences, and then resume Beatha at a later date when things have 'calmed' down.
Remember, that Beatha works on both the physical and the emotional level, disrupting rigid patterns in the brain, gently releasing layers of emotional toxicity; the hurts and pains.
Also, when you get these experiences of 'feeling fear', 'startle up', etc., immediately doing pipe breaths will help to calm you down, to reduce your adrenal level and heartbeat rate;with the release of oxytocin. Also, to 'talk' to (to distract) your rational mind, you may like to recite PotS, rather than saying words of self-calming, and your unconscious mind will know what to do, as it is tied in with the somatic experience of breathing.
This may help, or not.
