Éiriú-Eolas - Breathing Program

[ines]

Some minutes later the "same game" again, my adrenalin-level got so high that I got up, smoking a cigarette and reading a bit. (would like to add that I am now reading "In an Unspoken Voice", by Peter Levine, some of the written touched me that evening and some tears came up, but with no special thoughts or so)

Hello Ines,

maybe do some lighter reading as well, before going to bed so that it doesn't upsets you, cause when tired programs tend to kick in easier and it is harder to overcome and even just watch then.

And how is your diet going?

Hello Gawan!

Thanks for responding.
Such a reading doesn't set me up normally. Didn't know what it was, never had it before, so I asked if it could be some resolution. But the last three days were totally free of all the mentioned symptoms..

Diet goes fine. This forum is/was a treasure chest for me the last years. Step by step I eliminated bad stuff. Now I am living low-carb and I have much more energy!

 

[Angchop]

Did the full program on Monday. Through the 3 stage breathing I was a little restless, but once I got into the rhythm of it it went really well. I can definitely tell that doing the stretching exercises beforehand help immensely relax me. Through the bioenergetic breathing I did some serious spacing out. Like the whole time. It almost felt like time was suspended. I like to get into the FIR sauna blanket to do the POTS, and that too also felt like time was suspended.

Later that night I had a few weird dreams, but that's about it.

Angela

 

[Ollie]

Still holding off from doing Beatha, as there are still problems at night with prostate. Otherwise, on Monday, I experienced yawning and wet-eyes through to PotS, likewise on Thursday, with the addition of zoning out towards the end of PotS.

 

[Gertrudes]

Here is a recent experience (also posted on the EE forum):

I recently took a 5 hour journey on a ferry.
I'm usually good with boats, and this was a pretty big ferry that didn't really undulate much. However, since the beginning of the journey I noticed that there was this sort of vibration coming through the floor from the ferry's engine. That didn't worry me too much, so I just ignored it. Well, halfway through the journey I began to feel small waves of abdominal cramps. They were very, very deep, it felt like they were coming from my viscera. It was strange as I never felt this, much less on a boat.

The waves of pain came and went, rhythmically, and became progressively worse. Eventually I decided to go to the Vip area where there are big, comfortable chairs that you can recline, but the cramps kept becoming worse, and worse. Suddenly I remembered pipe breath and how the stimulation of the vagus nerve could help stop these "visceral spasms", as I called them. Well, as soon as I began pipe breathing the cramps subsided. It was really remarkable. I pipe breathed for about half an hour, then stopped and noticed a faint cramp returning, so I just kept pipe breathing until the end of the journey with small intervals here and there, and had no more cramps.

I remember reading how other members have experienced the positive effects of pipe breathing when under all sorts of physical stresses and pains, and this is one of such clear examples.
EE definitely rocks :D

 

[stellar]

For the past two weeks I have been constantly zoning out toward the end of third stage breathing and I remain that way until I hear the words '....bless you all'. I know I have been working long hours for the past few months and I do get tired but this only happens when I'm doing EE. Maybe doing it in the evenings is one reason that 'sleepiness' happens but it is the only time of day that I have time to myself. Otherwise my diet is good and I do wake every morning 'ready to go again'. So I'm not sure what may be going on.

 

[pete02]

For the past two weeks I have been constantly zoning out toward the end of third stage breathing and I remain that way until I hear the words '....bless you all'. I know I have been working long hours for the past few months and I do get tired but this only happens when I'm doing EE. Maybe doing it in the evenings is one reason that 'sleepiness' happens but it is the only time of day that I have time to myself. Otherwise my diet is good and I do wake every morning 'ready to go again'. So I'm not sure what may be going on.

When this happens to me I just rewind and start over if I have time. I find that sometimes I'm more tired than I was aware of and I think the relaxed state that EE (particularly the pipe breathing) puts me in helps me to just nod off. However I also find that that little powernap gives me just what I needed to have a good session so for me it works out. Maybe you could try a quick ten or fifteen minute nap before you begin and see what happens? fwiw.

 

[stellar]

When this happens to me I just rewind and start over if I have time. I find that sometimes I'm more tired than I was aware of and I think the relaxed state that EE (particularly the pipe breathing) puts me in helps me to just nod off. However I also find that that little powernap gives me just what I needed to have a good session so for me it works out. Maybe you could try a quick ten or fifteen minute nap before you begin and see what happens? fwiw.

I would love to do that except by the time the cd ends it is 11 o'clock and I have to be up at 4.30/5.00 ,so I guess I'll have to catch up on weekends and do the POTS with at least one stage of breathing on weeknights. :/ Really , though, I just need some time off but that ain't happening until december.

 

[eleusis]

Not sure if this is the correct place to post this but I'll start here. I've been practicing EE for fifteen months now and have seen a dramatic increase in the outpouring and range of emotions. In the beginning, pretty much everything my mind was consumed with was fear based, a sort of who and what's out to get me cornered state of existence. At that time, mentally, emotionally and physically I literally felt like broken glass, something thanks to negative thought loops I kept repeating in my mind over and over again. Now, I feel all sloshy and sloppy and emotionally wet much of the time. From shattered glass to soupiness, that is progress! :P

The phase I'm currently working through seems to be heavily marked by sentimentality, if that's the right word, and intensity and spontaneity of the emotional experience. I'm thinking that like the craving of food, we can crave emotions which we were formerly starved of. When I see people posting here I often think, "that's the big sister/brother or younger sister/brother I wish I had when I was growing up" and then I start crying. It's even interesting the somewhat self pitying past tense way I just phrased that because here I am on this forum and everyone is here now and I don't have to wish. It's true. It is. I am experiencing it and even though I am separated by time and space from forum members in this reality I still do connect with each of you as my family. We are all becoming more bonded through the growth of our emotional spectrums, by this sense of being a part of an extended family and also by crying.

I do cry every single day at various times. I cry sometimes because of self pity, sometimes joy, sometimes sadness and sometimes beauty or even just because. I can feel how this act of crying connects me in a much deeper way to a person or an experience. And, I think that a family that cries together, stays together. As a child from a pathological home I used to cry to get attention, to get my way or even out of anger and rage. Crying for me is different and more nourishing now, a spontaneous healing release, and not specifically something that is an emotionally manipulative outburst or defense mechanism.

During this period of increased emotionality more than ever I need guidance, a firmer hand. I need those older wiser sisters and brothers who through their own dedication, experience and service are filled with strength and stability. They are the objective pillars which help calm the subjective sloshing of the waters in my emotional chalice so they don't spill over the edges. They help me to understand the difference between the emotions which are higher and more inspirational and those which are lower and can drown me with their turbulence. So, thank you everyone, and thank you EE, for all you have given me and may fortune and happiness smile on you and yours.

 

[Gwenllian]

I recently took a 5 hour journey on a ferry.
I'm usually good with boats, and this was a pretty big ferry that didn't really undulate much. However, since the beginning of the journey I noticed that there was this sort of vibration coming through the floor from the ferry's engine. That didn't worry me too much, so I just ignored it. Well, halfway through the journey I began to feel small waves of abdominal cramps. They were very, very deep, it felt like they were coming from my viscera. It was strange as I never felt this, much less on a boat.

The waves of pain came and went, rhythmically, and became progressively worse. Eventually I decided to go to the Vip area where there are big, comfortable chairs that you can recline, but the cramps kept becoming worse, and worse. Suddenly I remembered pipe breath and how the stimulation of the vagus nerve could help stop these "visceral spasms", as I called them. Well, as soon as I began pipe breathing the cramps subsided. It was really remarkable. I pipe breathed for about half an hour, then stopped and noticed a faint cramp returning, so I just kept pipe breathing until the end of the journey with small intervals here and there, and had no more cramps.

I remember reading how other members have experienced the positive effects of pipe breathing when under all sorts of physical stresses and pains, and this is one of such clear examples.
EE definitely rocks :D

That is great, Gertrudes. I will remember that. :)

I sometimes do pipe breathing and when it doesn't help I switch to POTS. That also helps when under stress.

 

[Gertrudes]

That is great, Gertrudes. I will remember that. :)

I sometimes do pipe breathing and when it doesn't help I switch to POTS. That also helps when under stress.

Yes, the way pipe breathing stimulates the vagus nerve, and the complex and important role this nerve has on our overall well being is simply astonishing. The more I read about it, (and experience its effects), the more I have to simply bow to the wisdom of my body, and how it has such a delicate, sensitive, yet resilient and incredibly resourceful system of self regulation and of gaining/regaining balance.

Good to know that POTS is helping you with stress :) POTS also helps me keep my focus and aim in mind.
One thing that I always like to keep in mind though, is that the effects of every single part of the program are also cumulative. And that is, I think, what makes it so powerful. Sure, there are immediate results most of us feel such as a greater sense of calm, emotions more on the surface, and so on. But throughout time, the program is making little changes that we don't perceive due to their subtlety and depth. It is working from the inside out. And because of that depth, those changes are often only perceived when looking back, or when someone points out to us where we were, and where we are now, these things are easy to forget without an outside eye, osit.

 

[Drazen]

Hello,

I've been doing EE and meditation with POTS for last 6 weeks every day and I can say that it really has effect on me. My mind is better focused ( usually there are unwanted negative thoughts jumping in often and disrupting constructive thoughts). I feel more free in every sense of that word and the fact that I have decided to start to write on forum is one of the confirmations of it. Since I joined the Forum a few posts of mine came out because there was so much material for research and catch up with others and I was constantly convincing myself that there is no need to post anything cause someone already wrote something like this or that and my post would bring noise only. But I understand, that is wrong attitude from me. There is nothing wrong in expressing constructive thoughts even if someone has wrote it similarly. That only shows that you are like minded and more familiar with others. So I will "get out on stage" from shadow and do connecting with others. :)

 

[Gawan]

Hello,

I've been doing EE and meditation with POTS for last 6 weeks every day and I can say that it really has effect on me. My mind is better focused ( usually there are unwanted negative thoughts jumping in often and disrupting constructive thoughts). I feel more free in every sense of that word and the fact that I have decided to start to write on forum is one of the confirmations of it. Since I joined the Forum a few posts of mine came out because there was so much material for research and catch up with others and I was constantly convincing myself that there is no need to post anything cause someone already wrote something like this or that and my post would bring noise only. But I understand, that is wrong attitude from me. There is nothing wrong in expressing constructive thoughts even if someone has wrote it similarly. That only shows that you are like minded and more familiar with others. So I will "get out on stage" from shadow and do connecting with others. :)

That sounds great!

Only to clarify your statement, did you do the whole ÉE program every day, or only the meditation?

 

[Drazen]

Three-stage pipe breathing, PotS and meditation doing every day with full program on Mondays and Thursdays. In the beginning I was doing whole program every day and it didn't have any negative noticeable effect but I decided to slow down anyway.

 

[anart]

During this period of increased emotionality more than ever I need guidance, a firmer hand. I need those older wiser sisters and brothers who through their own dedication, experience and service are filled with strength and stability. They are the objective pillars which help calm the subjective sloshing of the waters in my emotional chalice so they don't spill over the edges. They help me to understand the difference between the emotions which are higher and more inspirational and those which are lower and can drown me with their turbulence. So, thank you everyone, and thank you EE, for all you have given me and may fortune and happiness smile on you and yours.

Joe, that sounds great. You've made some significant progress. Keep us updated on how things develop from here!

 

[Alejo]

Hey guys,

Well first of all I must say that for certain circumstances I have not been able to attend classes lately (NYC) which I'm not happy about, but nonetheless I have been doing EE at home by myself, sometimes with my brother, aiming for 2 times a week when I can.

In any event, I wanted to share an experience I had last time I did the whole program with you guys, I think I commented elsewhere on the case forum and on th EE forum, about right after having finished the 3 stage breathing portion, seeing pulsating waves of light all over, and was confused about the origin of these (maybe it has something to do with blood flow over the body? Due to the controlled amount of air and the timing?)

Nonetheless, last time I had a different experience, i usually do the 3-stage with my eyes closed, and open them right before beginning the warriors breath, when I did, I saw the usual pulsating waves, but this time I saw something I can only describe as vapor or smoke (ever been under the rain and you're warmer than the water and it starts to evaporate from your skin?) emanating upwards from my body, it behaved like smoke and it looked very similar, although there was no particular sensation related to it, only when I decided to stop the recording and observe this phenomenon.

I decided to look at my hands and look to see if it was external to me.. So I moved my hands, and changed positions, opening and closing them, and from what I saw I seemed to be the source, I then put my hands together (as to atrempt to collect this smoke) and i could feel a very slight warming up of my palms.

After a little while the "visibility" toned down so I decided to finish the program, has anyone experienced anything like this? Or has any insight or opinion? Any feedback is appreciated..:)

Thank you