Éiriú-Eolas - Breathing Program

[forge]

Thursday after Beatha i ordered myself to properly do meditation this time and began concentrating on one spot in the darkness as Laura's voice was counting back on the tape. Little later came a usual going deeper feeling. Then somebody touched the upper side of my ring finger.

I missed that part, could you explain what's the purpose of it?

If it is to concentrate on something what tip could you give me? I always try to concentrate on a problem, but it is so fast that my mind literally has a storm of thoughts about everything and is a little hard.

General old-school "one-point breath focusing", mentioned also by Rick Strassman, author of Spirit Molecule. It's purpose was to bring racing thoughts to a halt by strictly focusing on one point, that could be various places of the body. Learned it many years ago. Japanese used it in martial arts.

Nowadays the one-point focus became the third eye for me, as per suggestions on this thread. When breathing in, i focus on the place of the Third Eye, concentrate and visualize a very bright point created there, an opening, through this focus-point i visualize life as God's nurturing light entering my spirit body filling me up ( D.ick Sutphen also talks about this via chakras in his meditative audio tapes). That's breathing in.

Breathing out following the EE audio tape, concentrating hard so it's properly done : all sickness is willfully pushed out - visualized as black smoke coming from all parts of my body - the smoke is grainy like sand it has bits and flows through me in/out like my spirit body were a sieve and i concentrate on collecting it so all of it is leaving through my mouth. When properly done this feels like leaving no desires in my spirit but expelling all sinful desires outward. This process has to be concentrated on to be visualized properly. Usually crying urges, disburdening sensations and candid "i want to be cleansed" feelings are driving this visualization.

Whatever works for you, just keep Laura's directions told on the EE-tape.

 

[cubbex]

And which results you got?

Interesting the part about cleansing. Yeah I know about cleaning the machine but I won't do it just breathing of course, I see it as working and fixing it, as everyone here do.

Thanks for your response Oxajil, indeed, it is like a muscle and it's hard, but nothing that is worth comes easily.

 

[Drazen]

Yesterday I was doing full program and during 3 stage breathing my mouth couldn't stop filling with saliva which often caused interruption when I breath IN because it was choking me sometimes no matter how much I swallow. Other thing that occur sometimes is yawning and when you mix saliva swallowing, yawning and even burping it can be a little bit frustrating but I manage through it. My partner and I are always doing EE together (we live together) and her experience is similar to mine, with less saliva and without burping part :).
Wet eyes occurred only once so far for me and more frequent to her. During the second and mostly third round of Ba-Ha part my breathing becomes much louder as I do it more determined with stronger breaths and it result in a feeling of strength mixed with anger. In previous round breathing experiences "vibrations" in palms and fingers mostly occurred but now it's almost gone, just a little tingling. That's it for now.

 

[Graalsword]

Yesterday I did full EE, though I had to do an extra warrior breath session at the beggining and I shortened the three stage pipe breath, due to a mild cold I got. During the last breaths of beatha, and early POTS I realized that there are events in my life, not so far back, I mean, more or less recent, (no more than 2 to 4 years) that I have supressed from my memory, related to relationships, interactions with others, negative interactions, etc.

I also saw pink color.

 

[Gwenllian]

Mariama, again thank you for your words. It is this connection which helps me to think better and ultimately become more socialized in a healthy life affirming fashion. It's interesting that as I was thinking as to how to respond to your post that my mind became so overwhelmed with how to answer that I started and restarted this post several times. All the words and sentences became jumbled in my head and when I wrote them they all started sounding fragmented and insincere. So, I stopped went outside and puffed on a cigarette while I reformulated what I wanted to express in my heart, not my head.

Isn't that key? To express what our heart is saying and not our head? Doesn't it make the connection easier? That is what I find anyway. When we open up, when we show our vulnerable side, our petty and mean side, the whole picture, we open up a dialogue. Because it gets ever so much easier to relate. That is why I responded to you. As far as I can judge you are emotionally honest. And that invites people (or me at least) to be the same.

If nothing else, if no words of wisdom come, and they don't have to, I realize that at the very least I can always express my gratitude. I have gratitude that this forum exists where I can learn that even when I thought I was alright and on an even keel I wasn't. I was and still am in many ways in a much deeper hole than I care to consciously admit.

I also feel very grateful for this forum and I feel grateful to be alive now. To have the opportunity to find the truth. To decide not to accept lies any longer.
I am just like you, in many ways in a (much) deeper hole than I would like to admit.
But that is okay, Joe. We are not in that deep a hole as we used to be! I can spot the difference in myself, when another learning opportunity presents itself. Because I handle myself differently. Baby steps.
When I started EE I was really pleased with myself! I had embarked on a new journey towards healing. But then I found out that if I really wish to make changes I have to start eating differently as well. And in order to do that I have to read loads of books and threads. And I thought I was done!
It is a mistake I keep making. ;)

I literally have to relearn everything within the parameters of this system here where people walk the walk. And that's what scares the traumatized portion of me, that I'm going to have to grow up and stop playing the Peter Pan mechanical version of me. Fortunately, there is a plethora of people here who I know I can trust because they've demonstrated through their own hard work on applying the principles here that they are trustworthy and I should listen to them. They've developed and are continuing to evolve in being as well as knowledge. And, I'm beginning to experience how emotionally and spiritually fulfilling it is to positively interact and count on colinear friendships for strength, hope and wisdom. Thanks Mariama, I treasure your words and this connection.

Thank you! I treasure yours.

 

[eleusis]

Posted by: Mariama
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When we open up, when we show our vulnerable side, our petty and mean side, the whole picture, we open up a dialogue.
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I like that you wrote about being vulnerable because I have a propensity to clam up and focus on reading about the difficulties other people are having in applying the reading and principles here and then think I can somehow receive the proper shocks or guidance which will awaken me via their experiences. No, I have to participate and there's no way around that. Otherwise, how will people know me or how will I know or respect myself if I don't make an effort. I went that route for many years of simply reading forum member's words and being stand-offish when it came time for me to look into the mirror. I missed out on many wonderful opportunities of personal interaction that could have tremendously accelerated my growth, learning and being and who knows what others could have learned from me being forthright about my own struggles with the forces of entropy.

 

[forge]

And which results you got?

Interesting the part about cleansing. Yeah I know about cleaning the machine but I won't do it just breathing of course, I see it as working and fixing it, as everyone here do.

Thanks for your response Oxajil, indeed, it is like a muscle and it's hard, but nothing that is worth comes easily.

Much less identification, less response to desires. Capability to stand in the hurricane of desires. This last one is new, experienced in past couple of weeks. Never believed that i would be able to do this. What breathing i described seems to have acted (in retrospect) as a strong solvent, dissolving sick/pathological drives, desires so that very little remains. I always had problems with this type of pathology and expressly asked DCM to rid me of them as possible.

If breathing this way and praying twice in the morning dissolves attachments, i could compare the result with severely weakened bacteria (capable of causing serious sickness in the body when not attacked), these i think the immune system (EE) weakened considerably to render them mainly dead. The remaining bacteria/attachments/desires/pathologic elements by now appear simply to not have enough strength to drive me with such a gale force as before. But i had emotional bankruptcy, final desperation to get to this point: I gave myself up to DCM to cleanse me, however DCM sees best, i just wanted to be healed, nothing interested me anymore, i had totally enough of the pathology in the world seeping into me.

Prayer of the Soul done consciously and thoughtfully (G.) in the morning appears to put onto me a conscious protection - declaration of intent - like a seal of wax on an official letter, this seal slowly dissolving during the day as temptations besiege me. This prayer/seal causes much diminished response to temptations as described above, with the end-result of majority of energy/life force saved, more energy to think/read and understand Work ideas, more opportunity for possible H24 creation and thinking in hydrogen 24. If only for short time as i'm at the beginning of this process. I expect my determination to grow very much as days pass and expect to spend more and more time in the day in thinking with H24.

The Enneagram depicts a series
of transformations from lower to higher, from coarser to finer. Now in
order that a lower may become transformed into a higher, it must be
passive. That is, it must allow itself to be acted upon by a higher influence.
How else could lower become higher? How else could the food we eat
become cooked and re-cooked, transformed and re-transformed into
higher and higher substances, unless it submitted to the six stages of
digestion? Digestion is transformation. Work is transformation. And
if the higher influences of the Work are to act on a man, he must in one
sense become passive to them and permit them to act.
(Nicoll commentaries, Book II. p.434)

I forgot to add that much energy was needed to get to this point. On regular workdays i always got up early, slept little, was too tired, didn't have so much energy to apply EE properly. Morning prayers were impossible during June, because simply had no time to properly do them (+exhaustion/depression). So if i have worked at a workplace (as a Boss' slave) during this last 45 days, what i have described above would have been impossible, because no energy present to do the EE exercises properly. Finer thought, finer creative acts, stronger, real Work realizations, (it seems) always need finer energy, which can only be created if the person isn't 'exhausted to death' (and depressed/desolate as a result) having to slave at a workplace to get some money to continue a (much of the time) exhausted existence.

 

[cubbex]

Much less identification, less response to desires...

I got the same results without focusing on my third eye, a black spot or whatever, so where's the relevance on focusing on something like that?

 

[forge]

Much less identification, less response to desires...

I got the same results without focusing on my third eye, a black spot or whatever, so where's the relevance on focusing on something like that?

Keep the mind busy so it cannot go astray from EE.

 

[ana]

Much less identification, less response to desires...

I got the same results without focusing on my third eye, a black spot or whatever, so where's the relevance on focusing on something like that?

Keep the mind busy so it cannot go astray from EE.

I would recommend you to not to focus on any specific part of your body, to not force you attention trying to keep your mind busy, so that things can run their course naturally. You are not meant to control here but to allow things happen, wether you start zoning out, having visions, hearing unusual sounds, feeling releases in specific parts of your body, heat, cold, tingle or sudden emotions, you need to be able to let go of here, so that EE can do its job, osit.

 

[ana]

By the way, the other night I had a new experience while practicing EE (pipe breathing portion), Suddenly I Heard a woman voice very clearly which said: "Ana, are you hearing me?" (In Spanish) Only one time.
And at the same time I heard it I could clearly felt a specific part of my brain.

 

[Gwenllian]

I like that you wrote about being vulnerable because I have a propensity to clam up and focus on reading about the difficulties other people are having in applying the reading and principles here and then think I can somehow receive the proper shocks or guidance which will awaken me via their experiences. No, I have to participate and there's no way around that. Otherwise, how will people know me or how will I know or respect myself if I don't make an effort. I went that route for many years of simply reading forum member's words and being stand-offish when it came time for me to look into the mirror. I missed out on many wonderful opportunities of personal interaction that could have tremendously accelerated my growth, learning and being and who knows what others could have learned from me being forthright about my own struggles with the forces of entropy.

You know, I have two still fairly young children who act like mirrors. And of course I decided to look into that mirror, as I did not want to continue the cycle of abuse, the one that I had grown up in. This desire and focus which were very strong made me more vulnerable. I had to open up, I had to change. Because I did not like what I saw in that mirror, still don't from time to time. And although I sometimes really did not want to know certain things about myself I had to, or so it seemed. I was thinking of the future of my kids and mine.
They have seen me at my worst. And I cannot deny that. I do not wish to. So I had to come clean about my behaviour. It is very humbling and at the same time it is so empowering.
It helped that my kids were much more vulnerable than I was. I was after all the parent, not the child. And I felt truly loved. I could see that they loved me, even though I did not deserve it from time to time.
The fact that I continue with EE and will change my diet, and do my reading. I also do that for them. It will make me a less irritable, clearer-headed and aware parent. And we need clear-headed and aware parents! :D
So, if you want to, you can do this. OSIT.

 

[cubbex]

Much less identification, less response to desires...

I got the same results without focusing on my third eye, a black spot or whatever, so where's the relevance on focusing on something like that?

Keep the mind busy so it cannot go astray from EE.

I would recommend you to not to focus on any specific part of your body, to not force you attention trying to keep your mind busy, so that things can run their course naturally. You are not meant to control here but to allow things happen, wether you start zoning out, having visions, hearing unusual sounds, feeling releases in specific parts of your body, heat, cold, tingle or sudden emotions, you need to be able to let go of here, so that EE can do its job, osit.

Thanks :) Ana. I remember that when I tried to zone out I couldn't lol, the opposite happened when I didn't.

 

[Graalsword]

I would recommend you to not to focus on any specific part of your body, to not force you attention trying to keep your mind busy, so that things can run their course naturally. You are not meant to control here but to allow things happen, wether you start zoning out, having visions, hearing unusual sounds, feeling releases in specific parts of your body, heat, cold, tingle or sudden emotions, you need to be able to let go of here, so that EE can do its job, osit.

Thanks :) Ana. I remember that when I tried to zone out I couldn't lol, the opposite happened when I didn't.

Yup. Trying to force such things to happen doesn't work at all. Quite the contrary, it seems to block it off altogether. It would be like trying to stole the fire from Zeus in the Prometheus myth ;)
You know, the Universe knows better than us when is the right time for these things to happen.

 

[forge]

Much less identification, less response to desires...

I got the same results without focusing on my third eye, a black spot or whatever, so where's the relevance on focusing on something like that?

Keep the mind busy so it cannot go astray from EE.

I would recommend you to not to focus on any specific part of your body, to not force you attention trying to keep your mind busy, so that things can run their course naturally. You are not meant to control here but to allow things happen, wether you start zoning out, having visions, hearing unusual sounds, feeling releases in specific parts of your body, heat, cold, tingle or sudden emotions, you need to be able to let go of here, so that EE can do its job, osit.

Thank you Ana. During tonight's session and from now on i will cease trying to control EE by using the old point focus meditation. It is a reflex remaining from years of practice long ago.