Éiriú-Eolas - Breathing Program

[Ollie]

To get back up-to-date for the last two weeks, having been somewhat distracted by family matters; it is much as before, wet-eyes and yawning extending from pipe breathing into PotS, with one session including a dissociation about three-quarters of the way through – much like a ‘waking-dream’.

 

[Deleted member 4320]

At my last beatha breathing I needed to do tight jaw extending and get huge yawns. It was very relaxed session. I felt lightly and clear mind and came to my mind some long-forgotten moments from the past I was surprised of that memories.

While the PotS I noticed that I don't hear the fragments of the Prayer I put aside my player and I suddenly zoned out.

 

[Tomiro]

I thought that I'd share some of my experiences with the EE program, since I've been doing it semi-regularly for a year now.

In the beginning I encountered some internal resistance towards doing the program. Also I found it somewhat hard to focus during the breathing, and my mind kept racing around. Still I found that more often than not it did help to easy my stress levels, while at other times seemed to bring up lots of old "stuff" or emotions (like anger, frustration, sadness, regret). I've been doing other meditation systems in the past, as well as some yoga, but I'm not sure if I felt quite this restless then. Now I just read about limiting the Beatha part to a few times a week, so maybe this could be part of my unease, since that part often feels a bit "too long" for some reason, or there is a discomfort at times doing it.

As others also have reported, I find it easy to 'zone out' during the PotS part. I first though this was due to a lack of sleep on my part (might be the reason sometimes), but it seems to happen less nowadays.

Another thing that may or may not be related is that for the past weeks, during the day, vivid memories of past events pop up. It doesn't have to be a traumatic event, just some seemingly random memory of interaction with people from like 20 years ago, that really has nothing to do with what I'm doing at the moment.

Also I have been doing the detox (with IR sauna) for over a year, and this Christmas will mark a year of a grain-, and (mostly) dairy free diet. As a result I'm no longer suffering from constant ear-infections, (pan)sinuitis, nasal polyps, among others. With my body in better shape, I really feel I should do ee more regularly now, to help clearing all the emotional baggage. Maybe keeping a journal would help to better see any changes I'm going though an where I've come from. For example, I'm sure I feel more emotionally stable in dealing with certain situations than I've done in the past.

 

[SeekinTruth]

Hi, Tomiro. It is not recommended that you do the Beatha/round/bioenergetic breathing more than twice a week, and less if you become overwhelmed with old emotional traumas that you can't process fast enough and begin to heal. Most of us do the full program (including Beatha) on Mondays and Thursdays.

You can do the rest of the program, without round breathing, every day.

 

[Marcus-Aurelius]

I have not been able to practice EE for a long time due to various technical issues and what I can describe as a lack of will on my part. During that time, I just felt extremely low in energy, barely having enough to function and my daily work. A couple of breathing and meditation sessions have been sufficient to get me completely energized again!!!

Thank you again Laura and team for this wonderful gift!

Just wanted to post after a very long absence in this thread.

 

[SeekinTruth]

I have not been able to practice EE for a long time due to various technical issues and what I can describe as a lack of will on my part. During that time, I just felt extremely low in energy, barely having enough to function and my daily work. A couple of breathing and meditation sessions have been sufficient to get me completely energized again!!!

Thank you again Laura and team for this wonderful gift!

Just wanted to post after a very long absence in this thread.

Hi Marcus-Aurelius. Glad to hear that you've rediscovered the energizing and rejuvenating effects of EE. Trying to put some effort to have the discipline to practice the program regularly will pay in spades.

Also what's your diet like? The diet and EE work synergistically. And the optimal diet really makes a HUGE difference in steady energy, clear thinking, emotional stability, and motivation to pursue your goals (not to mention the elimination of food cravings and other unhealthy cravings). Combined with EE, the results are truly amazing for so many of us.

 

[stellar]

For the past month during the beatha part of the EE (only mondays & thursdays) I have been zoning out and what brings me 'to' is noticing that I have stopped breathing. No dramas, I just continue with programme. I am a little curious why this is happening. :/ There have been no 'surfacing' issues as result of the beatha otherwise.

Any thoughts?

 

[Tomiro]

Hi, Tomiro. It is not recommended that you do the Beatha/round/bioenergetic breathing more than twice a week, and less if you become overwhelmed with old emotional traumas that you can't process fast enough and begin to heal. Most of us do the full program (including Beatha) on Mondays and Thursdays.

You can do the rest of the program, without round breathing, every day.

Thanks for the info. BTW. Do you all do the full program at a certain time during Mondays and Thursdays?

 

[Ollie]

Thanks for the info. BTW. Do you all do the full program at a certain time during Mondays and Thursdays?

You can do the programme at any time that suits you, by doing it on the same day, it means that all day long, someone somewhere in the world is doing EE.

 

[Ollie]

For the past month during the beatha part of the EE (only mondays & thursdays) I have been zoning out and what brings me 'to' is noticing that I have stopped breathing. No dramas, I just continue with programme. I am a little curious why this is happening. :/ There have been no 'surfacing' issues as result of the beatha otherwise.

Any thoughts?

Rather than 'stopping' breathing, your breath becomes rather shallow when zoning out, just enough to keep you alive. :)

Backtrack through the thread and see Approaching Infinity's post on what is thought to be happening when you zone out.

 

[stellar]

For the past month during the beatha part of the EE (only mondays & thursdays) I have been zoning out and what brings me 'to' is noticing that I have stopped breathing. No dramas, I just continue with programme. I am a little curious why this is happening. :/ There have been no 'surfacing' issues as result of the beatha otherwise.

Any thoughts?

Rather than 'stopping' breathing, your breath becomes rather shallow when zoning out, just enough to keep you alive. :)

Backtrack through the thread and see Approaching Infinity's post on what is thought to be happening when you zone out.

:)Sounds like a pleasant possibiliity. I have been saying for weeks that I really need a long vacation: maybe I'm getting it in ways I did not count on . Thanks for the heads up.

 

[Aiming]

We are all becoming more bonded through the growth of our emotional spectrums, by this sense of being a part of an extended family and also by crying.

I do cry every single day at various times. I cry sometimes because of self pity, sometimes joy, sometimes sadness and sometimes beauty or even just because. I can feel how this act of crying connects me in a much deeper way to a person or an experience.

When looking back, what practising EE has done is very similar to what you're describing here, joe seppe. I've become very easily moved to tears or crying, and also for a diversity of reasons. I sometimes simply start to weep when something or somebody deeply moves me, or through reading or watching something, or when feeling another's pain or the horror of a pathological act, which until now, often relates back to something repressed or unacknowledged in myself, and this feels healing in a way and as if I've become a little bit more of a human being, instead of made up of walls and sickness, or an island isolated from everything else around.

I think it was last year when in this thread I talked about a pressure in my left side, the ribcage area, and I'd tried to find out what it was about, because when I feel it it makes breathing deeply harder and is unpleasant, and I had no idea what it was that my body is storing there, holding on to. So, I had a rolfing session recently and the therapist saw that there was a problem with my breathing and found that my whole torso was very tight and then worked on it and after loosening 'things' up, showed my body how to breathe properly, deeply, without the former restrictions.
When I did pipe breathing and the meditation on that same day, it was amazing, because this was the first time I was feeling my body intensely, the area from the belly downwards, which before was kind of 'dead'. But it was also overwhelming, almost too much to bear to feel so much and I saw how I tended to dissociate from it. So, I still don't know what my body has been holding on to in my rib cage, but I'm really curious to find out. Another good thing EE has done for me is to simply see this all as an adventure and to trust that everything will happen as is best for my entire system. Before, I'd always been so impatient. So, as Gertrudes said, EE rocks indeed! :)

 

[MK Scarlett]

You can do the programme at any time that suits you, by doing it on the same day, it means that all day long, someone somewhere in the world is doing EE.

I started my first complet session on yesterday, so I noticed for the Monday and Thursday then go on on tomorrow! :)
I am pretty new on the forum and find this is a big help to understand how we can work together. Not only by connecting the dotes on the facts, but also by connecting more/different "dots"... I mean, can we see this like a network? A network of energy?

 

[Alana]

So, I had a rolfing session recently and the therapist saw that there was a problem with my breathing and found that my whole torso was very tight and then worked on it and after loosening 'things' up, showed my body how to breathe properly, deeply, without the former restrictions.
When I did pipe breathing and the meditation on that same day, it was amazing, because this was the first time I was feeling my body intensely, the area from the belly downwards, which before was kind of 'dead'. But it was also overwhelming, almost too much to bear to feel so much and I saw how I tended to dissociate from it. So, I still don't know what my body has been holding on to in my rib cage, but I'm really curious to find out. Another good thing EE has done for me is to simply see this all as an adventure and to trust that everything will happen as is best for my entire system. Before, I'd always been so impatient. So, as Gertrudes said, EE rocks indeed! :)

One thing that my rolfer told me is that sometimes we have already worked emotionally and intellectually on an issue, but the energy in the body/the fascia distortion remained stuck, and it takes body work like rolfing to fix it. It made sense when he told me, being that we spent our lives so detached from our bodies. Fwiw...

You can do the programme at any time that suits you, by doing it on the same day, it means that all day long, someone somewhere in the world is doing EE.

I started my first complet session on yesterday, so I noticed for the Monday and Thursday then go on on tomorrow! :)
I am pretty new on the forum and find this is a big help to understand how we can work together. Not only by connecting the dotes on the facts, but also by connecting more/different "dots"... I mean, can we see this like a network? A network of energy?

That's a good way to explain it, Scarlett, that we are connecting energetically - even from thousand miles apart - when we all do the program on the specific days.

 

[theos]

For a long time I was doing ee right before bed then I noticed that I would wake up in the middle of the night and not be able to get back to sleep. I moved the ee sessions to earlier in the evening and my sleep went back to normal. Could've just been a coincidence or I couldve uncovered some unnamed stress during the sessions that kept me from sleeping.