Éiriú-Eolas - Breathing Program

[Gwenllian]

That is great, Gertrudes. I will remember that. :)

I sometimes do pipe breathing and when it doesn't help I switch to POTS. That also helps when under stress.

Yes, the way pipe breathing stimulates the vagus nerve, and the complex and important role this nerve has on our overall well being is simply astonishing. The more I read about it, (and experience its effects), the more I have to simply bow to the wisdom of my body, and how it has such a delicate, sensitive, yet resilient and incredibly resourceful system of self regulation and of gaining/regaining balance.

Good to know that POTS is helping you with stress :) POTS also helps me keep my focus and aim in mind.
One thing that I always like to keep in mind though, is that the effects of every single part of the program are also cumulative. And that is, I think, what makes it so powerful. Sure, there are immediate results most of us feel such as a greater sense of calm, emotions more on the surface, and so on. But throughout time, the program is making little changes that we don't perceive due to their subtlety and depth. It is working from the inside out. And because of that depth, those changes are often only perceived when looking back, or when someone points out to us where we were, and where we are now, these things are easy to forget without an outside eye, osit.

I still know little about the vagus nerve, but will do some more reading. But first I will focus on Life without Bread. ;)

Thanks for reminding me of the cumulative effects.
For now I can only see the immediate results, especially emotions that are more on the surface. That is something which I appreciate a lot. It has become easier to have access to my feelings. I can now read books and at the same time feel distress or sadness, not just about my plight, but also the plight of others, throughout history.

And I feel more confident.
Earlier I had trouble reading long articles or books that deal with topics that I know nothing about. And now I feel it is more like an adventure and not a set-back.

I will be on the look-out for subtle and deep changes. :D

 

[Gwenllian]

During this period of increased emotionality more than ever I need guidance, a firmer hand. I need those older wiser sisters and brothers who through their own dedication, experience and service are filled with strength and stability. They are the objective pillars which help calm the subjective sloshing of the waters in my emotional chalice so they don't spill over the edges. They help me to understand the difference between the emotions which are higher and more inspirational and those which are lower and can drown me with their turbulence. So, thank you everyone, and thank you EE, for all you have given me and may fortune and happiness smile on you and yours.

Hi Joe,

Yes, "older and wiser sisters and brothers" will definitely help you along. But do not forget your own strength and guidance that you - I am sure - will be developing through EE. That is the beauty of sifting though these emotions.

I remember these first months of therapy and that the world, my world, had changed so radically that I couldn't recognise it any more. And then like an unexpected gift I was able to see the beauty of ordinary events, like going to the playground with my kids on a sunny day. These few happy moments in between helped me to see where I was going. And made me more confident of my path, despite the emotional "turbulence".
I like that word in this context. :)

 

[Gertrudes]

After a little while the "visibility" toned down so I decided to finish the program, has anyone experienced anything like this? Or has any insight or opinion? Any feedback is appreciated..:)

Hi Alejo, I recall reading somewhere in this gigantic thread that some members had also experienced seeing smoke coming out of their bodies. I haven't experienced it personally, but if I remember correctly, there were quite a few of us that did.
Maybe someone will chime in.

 

[truth seeker]

After a little while the "visibility" toned down so I decided to finish the program, has anyone experienced anything like this? Or has any insight or opinion? Any feedback is appreciated..:)

Hi Alejo, I recall reading somewhere in this gigantic thread that some members had also experienced seeing smoke coming out of their bodies. I haven't experienced it personally, but if I remember correctly, there were quite a few of us that did.
Maybe someone will chime in.

Yes, I also remember a few members relating these specific experiences. Not sure if a consensus was ever come to. While I never went through that (I was usually under a blanket), I did experience the sensation of something moving up and out of the blanket. With any and all of the unusual experiences, try to notice it without attaching to it. Not sure if that helps or answers your question.

 

[Deleted member 4320]

One time I had experience which could be similar to your experience with smoke. I didn't see smoke while doing EE but I after session was feeling like something evaporate from my body. It was like negative emotions evaporate from me. It was not pleasant but after 2 days I felt better.

While EE sessions I remind about white light or fog or just smoke which surrounded me, I seemed that I really saw it.

 

[eleusis]

Dear Mariama, thanks for your kind words and reminding me that I need to learn to rely on my own strength and guidance as well. Fortunately, because of EE I can more astutely read and feel my emotional constitution as it is and hence better know the myriad of subjective and trauma based programs that form its dysfunctional body. Continuing to understand and knowing how these subjective programs and programs of trauma express themselves through me will allow me to clear their deleterious effects resulting in a deeper awareness and trust of myself. It is a journey and I'm grateful that at least now I can truly feel the pleasure of connection. The simple pleasure of communicating with someone far away and experiencing a true and genuine friendship. Divine Cosmic Mind bless us all. :)

 

[SeekinTruth]

During last night's POTS (after pipe breathing) before sleep, I had a moderate emotional release with gentle crying. I was already somewhat emotional before going to bed because of thinking some things over about my current state and the state of affairs in general in the world. And then, when I was preparing the distiller to make distilled water overnight, there was a fly in the kitchen and I killed it with a swatter.

The thing is, that the fly was sitting on the edge of a plastic container and when I hit it with the swatter, although I hit it straight on, since it was on the edge, it didn't get killed right away but was stunned with its guts hanging out but still moving around on the counter. I grabbed a tissue and put it out of its misery as quickly as I could. But the whole thing made me even more emotional. Occasionally when a fly gets in the apartment, I'll kill it with one swat and be done with it (if it's not feasible to just shoo it out the door to the balcony). Seeing the fly last night suffering just added to the remorse and intense empathy I was feeling with suffering in general.

Since I started doing the EE program in summer of 2009, I've only had very slight, gentle emotional releases, and last night was one of them. After EE, I cried gently for a little while longer and pretty soon fell asleep. I slept quite well, as I haven't been sleeping that well recently -- often having a hard time falling asleep for quite a while and also waking up really early like 4:30 to 5 AM.

 

[Ollie]

This week, still cutting out Beatha, so my experiences are as follows: Monday, yawning and wet-eyes extending into PotS, where I zoned out about half way through; whilst on Thursday, wet eyes to start off with that moved to tears, yawning and a twitch of my left leg/knee just before PotS (relaxing and breathing exercise), and finally zoning out somewhere towards the end of Laura’s recitation.

 

[forge]

Thursday after Beatha i ordered myself to properly do meditation this time and began concentrating on one spot in the darkness as Laura's voice was counting back on the tape. Little later came a usual going deeper feeling. Then somebody touched the upper side of my ring finger.

I sat in seiza:
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..legs apart, nothing crossing, both palms up resting on my leg, i sat totally motionless. Afterward, a little surprised, i stretched out my fingers to test if i accidentally touched my other hand or thigh, but my fingers were well apart from everything, couldn't touch nothing with them, except air. It felt like an underside/pad of a human finger, as if someone stretched out with a pointing finger and tapped me to see if i'm asleep or something.

 

[cubbex]

Thursday after Beatha i ordered myself to properly do meditation this time and began concentrating on one spot in the darkness as Laura's voice was counting back on the tape. Little later came a usual going deeper feeling. Then somebody touched the upper side of my ring finger.

I missed that part, could you explain what's the purpose of it?

If it is to concentrate on something what tip could you give me? I always try to concentrate on a problem, but it is so fast that my mind literally has a storm of thoughts about everything and is a little hard.

 

[Gwenllian]

Dear Mariama, thanks for your kind words and reminding me that I need to learn to rely on my own strength and guidance as well. Fortunately, because of EE I can more astutely read and feel my emotional constitution as it is and hence better know the myriad of subjective and trauma based programs that form its dysfunctional body. Continuing to understand and knowing how these subjective programs and programs of trauma express themselves through me will allow me to clear their deleterious effects resulting in a deeper awareness and trust of myself. It is a journey and I'm grateful that at least now I can truly feel the pleasure of connection. The simple pleasure of communicating with someone far away and experiencing a true and genuine friendship. Divine Cosmic Mind bless us all. :)

Hi Joe,

Yes, it is journey and a very interesting one, too!

You are right, "the pleasure of connection" is so important. It was this connection with others also far away that helped me heal. The therapist was useful with regard to gaining insights and technique if you will. But I couldn't have healed and learnt without my friends. Because they knew what it meant to be a victim and survivor. Without them I would have been lost. The old friends that I had were unable to provide that support and I was unable to ask for it. Most people do not wish to talk about the hard stuff. That is why it is so essential to find like-minded individuals that do not shy away from pain and hardship.

 

[Gwenllian]

Trevrizent,

Just to report back to you. I have stopped the Beatha portion. And started taking my vitamin pills again (with magnesium, zinc and so much more). Also I have been drinking hop tea and recently green tea.
Falling and staying asleep has become a doddle.

Thank you so much for the tips.

The green tea actually tastes good. I am going to make myself a cuppa right now. ;)

 

[Oxajil]

If it is to concentrate on something what tip could you give me? I always try to concentrate on a problem, but it is so fast that my mind literally has a storm of thoughts about everything and is a little hard.

Hi Prometeo,

In my case it was a matter of practicing. Keep practicing and self-remembering yourself of the problem you're asking insight about or are concentrating on, you could for example try to keep it in mind as you try to understand the words coming from the POTS. Keep your mind in the present as much as you can, when you slip up, that's okay, it happens, you just self-remember yourself again and so on. Kinda like a muscle you're training!

 

[eleusis]

The old friends that I had were unable to provide that support and I was unable to ask for it. Most people do not wish to talk about the hard stuff. That is why it is so essential to find like-minded individuals that do not shy away from pain and hardship.

Mariama, again thank you for your words. It is this connection which helps me to think better and ultimately become more socialized in a healthy life affirming fashion. It's interesting that as I was thinking as to how to respond to your post that my mind became so overwhelmed with how to answer that I started and restarted this post several times. All the words and sentences became jumbled in my head and when I wrote them they all started sounding fragmented and insincere. So, I stopped went outside and puffed on a cigarette while I reformulated what I wanted to express in my heart, not my head. If nothing else, if no words of wisdom come, and they don't have to, I realize that at the very least I can always express my gratitude. I have gratitude that this forum exists where I can learn that even when I thought I was alright and on an even keel I wasn't. I was and still am in many ways in a much deeper hole than I care to consciously admit. I literally have to relearn everything within the parameters of this system here where people walk the walk. And that's what scares the traumatized portion of me, that I'm going to have to grow up and stop playing the Peter Pan mechanical version of me. Fortunately, there is a plethora of people here who I know I can trust because they've demonstrated through their own hard work on applying the principles here that they are trustworthy and I should listen to them. They've developed and are continuing to evolve in being as well as knowledge. And, I'm beginning to experience how emotionally and spiritually fulfilling it is to positively interact and count on colinear friendships for strength, hope and wisdom. Thanks Mariama, I treasure your words and this connection.

 

[SeekinTruth]

And, I'm beginning to experience how emotionally and spiritually fulfilling it is to positively interact and count on colinear friendships for strength, hope and wisdom. Thanks Mariama, I treasure your words and this connection.

I agree, Joe, it IS extremely emotionally and spiritually fulfilling to positively interact with a colinear network.

I did the full program this morning from 7 to 8 AM and am now REALLY energized!