Éiriú-Eolas - Breathing Program

Quote from: Alada on October 16, 2011, 09:27:04 PM

If from the day we were born we had been raised to understand and value the balance of life, the place in the great scheme of things of each level of being takes, and the evolutionary necessity for the human organism to eat animals for optimum health, our thoughts may be very different. Also if the killing animals for food had played a direct part in our upbringing (think traditional cultures, or even living on a small farm for example), and those lives were taken with respect and thanks rather than mindlessly, again I think we would come to accept and understand the relationship in an entirely different way.

I remember a time when I was very young, my mother made us pork chops. I love pork chops. I loved the fat the best, seared around the edges and still it melts in your mouth (they don't make pork the same anymore). I ate it to the bone and sucked on that too!! My brother made fun of me when I said that I love pork chops. He said that if I loved them so much why didn't I marry them! (this is a childhood memory, by the way!). At one time our neighbors were having a Pig roast. We were invited and my Mother was getting us ready to go. Well, a pig roast, are you kidding me, I don't eat Pigs. I won't eat it. She explained to me that it was the same as pork chops and that I love pork chops. Well, as usual, Mother won and I did eat it, and I liked it, it was pork chops!!

That was when I first learned where my food really comes from. I had no clue, I thought it came from the grocery store! I was lucky though, our neighbors were Cuban. They love a good pig roast. They respected the pig and that he gave his life for us to eat. It was a ceremonial. It was shocking for me at first to see a whole hog being turned on the fire. I was maybe 5 years old at the time. But, Ironically, it is one the clearest memories of my youth.

Anyway, Alada's post brought it back to my mind and I thought I would share. Mostly because I agree... "If from the day we were born we had been raised to understand and value the balance of life"...
 
Session report:

During the previous one (on last Thursday) I had pins and needles in feets, legs, arms, hands and neck. After my third EE session on yesterday, it did not seem to be pins and legs (in French we says "have ants"); Following this translation, it could have been big bugs running along my members and body. Something I had never felt before.

During the warrior breath, I coughed a lot and it looked back to me on the words of my energetics specialist three weeks ago: "an emotion seems to want to go get out (it can be a feeling, something you have to say), do not look for it, do not think especially about it, and when it will appear, just accept it."
I also had some difficulties to breath in by nose, especially during the medium Ba-Ha (slow-medium-fast, I hope it will be clear). During the slow Ba-Ha, I seemed to fall asleep, was almost unconscious of my "state". And when came medium and short Ba-Ha, I always was in "rythm", like if I was there at a second and not there at the other one.
Another thing I noted is the fact I am tired after the session (it sounds pretty good for me and is a normal situation I guess), but the fact is I feel tired in my body, but not at all in my mind. Does it mean I could be not enough relaxed? During the session my mind was crossed by thoughts and I had a lot of difficulties to be allowed go.

I just need to explain here (I did not do it yet) some little things:

I do not take pharmaceutical medicines anymore (except paracetamol but very rarely) and from more than four years. I did not drink any alcohol from five years. I smoke two to four rolled cigarettes by day with American Spirit tobacco, the only one I can smoke by the way. I eat fruits rarely, vegetables almost everyday. Fish (like sardine and soon mackerel) and eggs also are in my alimentation. I eat almost no more typical cereal wheat, barley, etc. I avoid pastas and I privilege flours of Saracen type, quinoa, sweet chestnut. I prepare food myself, they are all organic, seasonal and most of the time, premises.

I stopped to eat meat 4,5 years ago and all my "good reasons" are specifically explained in "The Vegetarian Myth" or at list in the articles hereafter; Thank you so much Gandalf, I read them on yesterday, and explain what happened to me will be certainly in the better place here: http://cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php?action=bookmarks;sa=add;topic=20771;a1e9eef275=b707ac3ad24191300fce0836eea3747a, in a few days...

Gandalf said:
Scarlett said:
The Vegetarian Myth does not seem exist in French, so my question was, does exist one?
Noy yet but you can find a couple of chapters on the French section of SOTT:

http://fr.sott.net/articles/show/4387-Le-mythe-vegetarien-Nourriture-justice-et-developpement-durable

http://fr.sott.net/articles/show/4466-Le-mythe-vegetarien-Nourriture-justice-et-developpement-durable-2e-partie-

http://fr.sott.net/articles/show/4596-Le-mythe-vegetarien-Nourriture-justice-et-developpement-durable-3e-partie-

From the discover of the Laura's World on last June, I started to understand I had made a mistake stopping eat meat for all the good reasons I thought I had.
So, the time for me to explore farther in researchs and knowledges during the summer, I reintroduced fat of duck and goose to cook my vegetables five weeks ago.
We use to buy our meat (my husband and my daughter had never stopped to eat meat, fortunately!) at a butcher who already cares about how animals are pampered, of the conception (no forced artificial insemination), to in their respectful death, to finish in our plates where we can thank it for what it gives us. What chance we have to get one butcher like this one so close, living in a big city!. Cows come from Aubrac and Cantal, countries I know well, my younger daughter has her father-family there.

So, this morning, after have talked with my butcher about energy and meat, after have understood I could know exactly where come from the meat and how it was treated during its life (I imagine that I wanted to be reassured on a subject which had already been approached before I stop a food of the meat and while we already provided ourselves at him, what tends to prove my error), I bought a piece of chicken. I eat it at lunch, after have thank the animal and nature, without any troubles or repulsion, as I imagined that it would be the case. So now, it is 17:33 UTC, and I feel good, my husband and my daughter are happy to see me back in this way.

So thank you so much all, for giving me the explanations by beeing comprehensive to realise my mistake. ;)
 
Scarlett said:
Another thing I noted is the fact I am tired after the session (it sounds pretty good for me and is a normal situation I guess), but the fact is I feel tired in my body, but not at all in my mind. Does it mean I could be not enough relaxed? During the session my mind was crossed by thoughts and I had a lot of difficulties to be allowed go.

Yesterday I was doing beatha for about few minutes only and felt that I am tired and fastest breaths are hard to make. I cosily lay on the side of my body and feeling get sleepy. My mind was clear, I heard what was happening around me and also innerly picking up different visions and good feelings. I nor couldn't get up because of heaviness which was very tempting so to speak, nor just fall asleep.

If I would have you to advise. Sessions are different. Do not worry about it but let it be.
 
lux said:
Yesterday I was doing beatha for about few minutes only and felt that I am tired and fastest breaths are hard to make. I cosily lay on the side of my body and feeling get sleepy. My mind was clear, I heard what was happening around me and also innerly picking up different visions and good feelings. I nor couldn't get up because of heaviness which was very tempting so to speak, nor just fall asleep.

If I would have you to advise. Sessions are different. Do not worry about it but let it be.

I was not especially worried, and thank you for helping, I've got it! No worries, whatever... ;)
 
Scarlett said:
lux said:
Yesterday I was doing beatha for about few minutes only and felt that I am tired and fastest breaths are hard to make. I cosily lay on the side of my body and feeling get sleepy. My mind was clear, I heard what was happening around me and also innerly picking up different visions and good feelings. I nor couldn't get up because of heaviness which was very tempting so to speak, nor just fall asleep.

If I would have you to advise. Sessions are different. Do not worry about it but let it be.

I was not especially worried, and thank you for helping, I've got it! No worries, whatever... ;)

It often happens that there is tiredness in our body, but because we spend so much time in our heads during the day, we don't notice/feel it. Then when we do some breathing exercises, which brings us back inside our body and we connect with how we feel, the tiredness becomes known to us. At least that was my observation on several occasions regarding my own state and that of others doing the program after a long, full day.
 
I had a chance to complete the tapes last week and they were awesome...I loved it, I feel like I'm learning to breathe again and the right way for the first time in my life. Thank you so much Laura!
 
very happy I bought CD at workshop.
finally uploaded both English and Spanish to itouch.
now I can listen to it on the go and when I don't have internet.

:love: Thanks!

buy EE CD online - http://eiriu-eolas.org/store/
 
Tomiro said:
I thought that I'd share some of my experiences with the EE program, since I've been doing it semi-regularly for a year now.

In the beginning I encountered some internal resistance towards doing the program. Also I found it somewhat hard to focus during the breathing, and my mind kept racing around. Still I found that more often than not it did help to easy my stress levels, while at other times seemed to bring up lots of old "stuff" or emotions (like anger, frustration, sadness, regret). I've been doing other meditation systems in the past, as well as some yoga, but I'm not sure if I felt quite this restless then. Now I just read about limiting the Beatha part to a few times a week, so maybe this could be part of my unease, since that part often feels a bit "too long" for some reason, or there is a discomfort at times doing it.

As others also have reported, I find it easy to 'zone out' during the PotS part. I first though this was due to a lack of sleep on my part (might be the reason sometimes), but it seems to happen less nowadays.

Another thing that may or may not be related is that for the past weeks, during the day, vivid memories of past events pop up. It doesn't have to be a traumatic event, just some seemingly random memory of interaction with people from like 20 years ago, that really has nothing to do with what I'm doing at the moment.

Also I have been doing the detox (with IR sauna) for over a year, and this Christmas will mark a year of a grain-, and (mostly) dairy free diet. As a result I'm no longer suffering from constant ear-infections, (pan)sinuitis, nasal polyps, among others. With my body in better shape, I really feel I should do ee more regularly now, to help clearing all the emotional baggage. Maybe keeping a journal would help to better see any changes I'm going though an where I've come from. For example, I'm sure I feel more emotionally stable in dealing with certain situations than I've done in the past.

This is excellent Tomiro. You have gotten very clear results from the diet change and EE. It is good to hear the specific benefits people have achieved!
 
Hi to all,

From my time as undergrad, I had a professor who has swift mood changes. Sometimes she likes you, and sometimes she yells at you for something minor. Sometimes she tolerates everything and then humiliate you in front of everyone for something simple. And since she looks and behaves like my 1st-5th grade teacher who was very agressive towards us, my body and mind carries past traumas when I interact with her.

I worked with her for my final year project, and due to the mistakes on my part, our relationship is terrible. To apply for a PhD position, I had to ask her if she could write a reference letter to me. I have been putting this off for months because the very thought of seeing her makes me anxious, I feel like I am burning inside, my hands tremble etc.

Today, I have decided to go to her room and asked for a reference letter no matter what. By being open to any possibility, I walked towards there but I couldn't feel my legs, I have lost my breath and I got dizzy. So I sat on a chair and do pipe breathing for 5-10 minutes. As I did, the feeling inside me shrinked and concentrated in my stomach. I have concentrated on not getting it above my head and walked to her room. There was some left over feelings around my body, but I get in and asked. Her attitude was positive and I got calm as we talked.

In the end, she said she would write something average because I didn't work hard, and she suggested that I should ask someone else first, and then if there is none, she could write something ordinary. I completely understood how she felt and I said to her that she is right. In the end, it was positive, we shared our thoughts and I don't know her but for my part, I felt so much relieved because I could talk to her without trembling or fear, also I have succeeded against the predator no matter what outcome is. ;)

My deepest thanks to EE and its creators. :flowers:
 
Trevrizent said:
Outside of the sessions, I’ve been releasing emotions whilst sleeping, in a less than optimal manner! Once again, it’s the continuing problem of other than letting go and experiencing the emotional releases normally. According to Lise Bourdeau, it’s a sign of underlying emotional stress and the emotions involved are: fear of displeasing parental role models, in the form of shame; and fear of not living up to expectations – I need to realize that ‘believed expectations’ are ill-founded. This leads to being hard on the self, needing reassurance that I'm loved regardless of performance. She suggests focusing on strengths, talents and abilities – on my unique personality, and relaxing and accepting self just as I am now. Relaxing is a major challenge just at the moment. There is a lot of work to do.

I am wondering where your are at, Trevrizent?
I can relate to what you are saying here. But I was wondering if this need of reassurance that you are loved no matter what is an old need and needs to be addressed?
I can focus on my strengths for instance, but if I do not address my old needs it will be impossible for me to be realistic. I have to do that first. Clear out the old baggage. OSIT.
 
Mariama said:
I am wondering where your are at, Trevrizent?
I can relate to what you are saying here. But I was wondering if this need of reassurance that you are loved no matter what is an old need and needs to be addressed?
I can focus on my strengths for instance, but if I do not address my old needs it will be impossible for me to be realistic. I have to do that first. Clear out the old baggage. OSIT.

Clear out the baggage is spot on, Mariama, in this case, it stems from narcissistic parenting - which take a 'while' to work through - still a work in process, especially as another of my needs that needs addressing is 'letting go'. One way is using EE, it just takes time and patience, the other is to 'remember' to use the advice that Boubeau recommends.
 
Just reporting that myself is powerful than ever. Of course the natural emotional vulnerabilities are present, but I don¿t feel atached to those "sacred cows" like before, the progress is constant. Thank you.
 
Few minutes ago during POTS, listened to Laura's voice, concentrated on third eye. Suddenly the spot i concentrated on rose up, got higher and there was a sense of cave-shaped expansion of inner space, the spot went to the ceiling. Accompanied with the feeling that i have to reach for it and more capacity. I concentrated on the higher spot, but was hard to hold it, faltered and could held this higher third-eye spot harder, like when a rookie rope dancers rope suddenly is lifted higher and he is unused to the new height. Need more training there.
 
I want to share my two experiences. I done the session and lying on the bed still relaxed. I was dreaming, I knew about it that I am dreaming but now I can't remember about what I dreamed. However it is not important at this time. At some point I heard a BUZZ in my ears. I was lying on the bed with aware of that I am in the body but I don't feel the body. And I had strongly feeling that I have two seperated consciousness who belong to me. In the normal state I have a feeling that it blurs and I don't have such a sense of separation.

One time I was thinking about some problem. I recalled sessions with Cass on the matter of Being, Non-Being, Lessons and general meaning of life and in result fell into depression. I did POTS and I have received a new thought and feeling which pointed me the new idea. I don't know how to explain what was the information but it gave me personally a new understanding.
 
EE report. I've been experiencing some progress in last 10 days. Yawning during breathing is gone which surprised me. Other thing is that the whole breathing process is done without any obstacles so it's much more pleasant experience which leads to really productive meditation later. I introduced spinning (33) before 3 stage breathing and can't say yet that it has some more significant effect on me except rising heat in my body when I'm starting EE but it's interesting to observe it.
 
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