Éiriú-Eolas - Breathing Program

[Gonzo]

Weird experience last night with the prayer. Got a small release of anger and frustration, which has never happened with the meditation before. Made for an awkward situation because my mum was asleep next door, so I couldn't really have a release.

Punching pillows can be quiet yet helplful, although screaming at the top of one's lungs while doing so would probably be more fun. ;)

Gonzo

 

[Timey]

Weird experience last night with the prayer. Got a small release of anger and frustration, which has never happened with the meditation before. Made for an awkward situation because my mum was asleep next door, so I couldn't really have a release.

Punching pillows can be quiet yet helplful, although screaming at the top of one's lungs while doing so would probably be more fun. ;)

Gonzo

This is my normal remedy.

 

[Seppo Ilmarinen]

I've had awful hay-fever symptoms all day long today and after doing EE just moment ago, they went totally away. There's also been this feeling in my calf in few earlier session, i assume it's because detoxing.

 

[Ollie]

For the ‘formal’, Monday and Thursday, sessions of EE this week it was a case of wet eyes during three-stage pipe breathing, followed by yawning during PotS, although on Monday zoned out most of it, whilst on Thursday, half-way through I experienced a ‘feeling’ of pain and suffering in my gut, finally micro-zoning out at the end of PotS.

 

[hiker]

A while back I went though a bout of flu and and was unable to do EE.

As I was recovering my practise of EE kind of devolved, and I didn't do EE for quite a while: no 3 stage breathing, no POTS.

As things went along like this, I started to notice some negative implications. I would notice my programs taking a larger hold and being on "autopilot" a lot more, in general I felt a lot more off balance.

After starting to do EE more regularly again, there is a major change for the better: I feel better, think clearer and perceive things and situations with more clarity :)

 

[Jones]

This is my fourth week of being back on the full program.

This time around I'm really looking forward to each full session which is different from the last time when it felt more of a chore in some respects.

I'm finding myself wanting to do the full program more frequently - but am not sure of the wisdom of that. During the course of the last three weeks I've had emotional releases of both grief and anger. The grief was more profound than the anger, but perhaps not as profound as some experiences I've read. Thing is though, I've found that when I touched the anger, I lost fear. There is a ball of pressure sitting in my solar plexus that I just want to move now because it seems that I've experience just a small glimpse of what may be after I clear everything, and I'm eager to move through it now.

 

[Foxx]

I'm finally sharing my EE experiences! :) My plan was to share them before last saturday (self-imposed deadline), but between traveling, electricity loss, and the heat wave I decided to put it off (didn't seem very enjoyable to be doing beatha in a 90+ degree room and even with the electricity back, I don't have AC).

Today I did the full session excluding warrior's breath (currently living in a shared house, I don't want to surprise/concern my housemates, though I'm looking for a solution to do warrior's breath without appearing to be completely strange). It was a pretty regular session for me--relaxing during the pipe breathing, then feeling very tingly while doing beatha. The tinglyness usually happens about half way through and, if I'm not mistaken, is from increased blood oxygenation.

I usually feel very tingly during beatha and "grounded" (or heavy) and today, which happens often, my mouth puckered up almost like eating something sour without the sour feelings and only in the mouth area. I try and relax my breathing and to not force it as others have told me that doing so can cause that, but I'm not sure if I'm failing to do that or if there's another cause. Not infrequently when I'm not doing EE, I'll notice myself tensing my mouth or pushing my lips forward (often when concentrating) and then relaxing them when I notice that I'm doing this, so I've wondered if this might be related to the puckering I'm experiencing during beatha.

I rarely, if ever, zone out doing beatha, though I have been somewhere in between sleeping and waking on a few occasions (betting this is pretty normal :) ), but stayed awake today. Sometimes my mind wanders to things that I feel I have to do (reading, work, etc) while I'm doing the techniques, which I'm working on changing to remain focused on relaxing. Sometimes I also kind of feel like I'm in some sort of tunnel when doing beatha--not sure how better to describe it. I noticed too today, and I think this happens sometimes (if not frequently) that I don't feel totally aligned with my body when doing at least the beatha portion--like "I'm" residing somewhere close to my body, but not completely inhabiting it, if that makes sense. Today "I" felt slightly to the back and left of my body while laying down doing beatha, but then tried to realign and be inside my body.

Afterward, I felt relaxed and less rushed to do things than I often do. I often feel tired at the end, although not necessarily sleepy, and a little groggy like I just woke up upon trying to stand after the PoTS. If I get up too soon after beatha and PoTS, I often feel a little off balance physically.

I learned EE from seek10 a little over a year ago and have been practicing pretty regularly since--usually doing a full session between once and twice a week. Except for the past two months I've been doing the full session less regularly--more like once every two weeks or so. I've been feeling an aversion to doing it more often for some reason and my life has been rather up in the air in various ways often recently, which I've used to justify not doing it at times, with other times it seeming like there are legitimate reasons not to do it (excessive heat, for example). However my current resolve is to return to the practice of doing the full session twice a week or so and I've also recently been doing at least a set of 12 pipe-breaths before going to bed to PoTS quite regularly.

I think that's all the important stuff! :)

 

[Oxajil]

Today I did the full session excluding warrior's breath (currently living in a shared house, I don't want to surprise/concern my housemates, though I'm looking for a solution to do warrior's breath without appearing to be completely strange).

Hey Foxx, instead of saying 'Ha' out loud, you can also try to do it in a whisper. That's what I do when I can't say it out loud. The important thing is that you try to get all the air out of the lungs, though whispering this way may not be as effective, but it does have an effect (atleast for me).

I usually feel very tingly during beatha and "grounded" (or heavy) and today, which happens often, my mouth puckered up almost like eating something sour without the sour feelings and only in the mouth area. I try and relax my breathing and to not force it as others have told me that doing so can cause that, but I'm not sure if I'm failing to do that or if there's another cause. Not infrequently when I'm not doing EE, I'll notice myself tensing my mouth or pushing my lips forward (often when concentrating) and then relaxing them when I notice that I'm doing this, so I've wondered if this might be related to the puckering I'm experiencing during beatha.

That is pretty normal, the tensing around the mouth, I used to get that too, but not so much now. So maybe, it'll become less as you practice more. But it's not something to worry about, imo.

Afterward, I felt relaxed and less rushed to do things than I often do. I often feel tired at the end, although not necessarily sleepy, and a little groggy like I just woke up upon trying to stand after the PoTS. If I get up too soon after beatha and PoTS, I often feel a little off balance physically.

You can try to give yourself a little rest and move your muscles one by one gently before you get up, and see if that helps any.

I learned EE from seek10 a little over a year ago and have been practicing pretty regularly since--usually doing a full session between once and twice a week. Except for the past two months I've been doing the full session less regularly--more like once every two weeks or so. I've been feeling an aversion to doing it more often for some reason and my life has been rather up in the air in various ways often recently, which I've used to justify not doing it at times, with other times it seeming like there are legitimate reasons not to do it (excessive heat, for example).

Usually if things in my life get a bit heated, I don't do the BaHa, just the three-stage breathing and meditation. But even those two can have a rather powerful effect on me (if done too frequently), so when things get too much I skip it altogether for a couple of days, except for some pipe-breathing. So I think it kinda depends per person, and you have to see what works best for you. But usually, doing atleast the 3-stage breathing and meditation, is recommended. Thanks for sharing your experiences Foxx! Hope these comments help in a way.

 

[Gary]

I have only recently returned to doing 'Work', after a months break. I suddenly found I couldn't bear to open any of Lauras books, do EE nor eat properly regarding the Paleo diet. I had been increasing aware of my programmes, which I know is all part of the machine cleaning process. I just felt 'full' of as much knowledge that I could retain. I have had an increasing sense of imminent massive change - inner and outer - since earlier this year, so perhaps it was my 'denial' programme kicking in - wanting / needing to bury my head in the sand. I felt so inadequate, depressed, unmotivated. All I could do was pray, daily with as much feeling as I had. The PoTS is like a lifeline to me in a stormy sea sometimes :)

Eventually, a couple of weeks back, I felt I really needed to do the EE and had a normal session. But two nights ago, after re-reading some of High Strangeness, I did the full EE and had usual results - teary eyes, yawning etc but during the Beatha it was so profound. I was laughing my head off one minute (watching my ego thinking I was special) and then absolutely crying my heart out (as I realised I could not 'save' my children nor those Indian children the C's have referred to in their sessions - being tortured by lizzies). My whole body ached from the sobbing. Gradually I became aware of Lauras soothing voice reciting the beautiful Prayer of the Soul, and I calmed down.

I feel something deep has shifted again now, not sure what though. Perhaps, although alot of what Laura has written has resonated with me, it was only on an intellectual / limited awareness level, and now some Knowledge has filtered through more layers of my programming.

I am trying to commit to the Work, and perhaps falling off the bandwagon now and again, provides me with necessary lessons. The best way to protect my beloved girls perhaps is for me to "learn, read and meditate"; and become more disciplined with EE, Paleo diet and networking. I try to share what I know with them, in a way they understand without scaring them as they are only 14 and 12 years old. I wrote them a story a few years back, The Flower of Truth, which contained some esoteric teachings, as I understood them, and tools for self development which seemed to have helped them on thier own journey. So perhaps its time to write another story, and in doing so by reflecting and cross referencing from the valuable data I have, I will fill in the gaps of the mosaic within a mosaic and see a bigger picture myself.

I bought a blank writing pad months ago, with the intention of going through the notes I made of Laura and Arks presentation in Barcelona last year and writing down my current understandings from what I have read. I need to interpret data and personal experiences in my own way to Learn, but fear and apathy have stopped me thus far. Yet, only I can remedy this situation. Sorry for rambling on, but even writing this has made it easier for me to acknowledge my programmes.

Blessings to you all.

 

[Foxx]

Hey Foxx, instead of saying 'Ha' out loud, you can also try to do it in a whisper. That's what I do when I can't say it out loud. The important thing is that you try to get all the air out of the lungs, though whispering this way may not be as effective, but it does have an effect (atleast for me).

Interesting--I'll have to try that! Thanks for the tip!

That is pretty normal, the tensing around the mouth, I used to get that too, but not so much now. So maybe, it'll become less as you practice more. But it's not something to worry about, imo.

Thanks!

You can try to give yourself a little rest and move your muscles one by one gently before you get up, and see if that helps any.

Thanks, I'll try that out too.

Usually if things in my life get a bit heated, I don't do the BaHa, just the three-stage breathing and meditation. But even those two can have a rather powerful effect on me (if done too frequently), so when things get too much I skip it altogether for a couple of days, except for some pipe-breathing. So I think it kinda depends per person, and you have to see what works best for you. But usually, doing atleast the 3-stage breathing and meditation, is recommended. Thanks for sharing your experiences Foxx! Hope these comments help in a way.

Thanks for the feedback, Oxajil! These are helpful suggestions and reflections so I will keep them in mind :)

 

[cubbex]

It is a month since I do the program again. I just did and I feel again in peace, fixed my frame of mind with it.

Right now I'm doing the exercises less than before, I do not live in stress as much as before :P thanks god, but I wait for the precise moment when things heat in my mind, so I do the program and some kind of climax or end for certain period, or lesson, ends and I can keep focus on other subjects.

 

[CelticWarrior]

I have only recently returned to doing 'Work', after a months break. I suddenly found I couldn't bear to open any of Lauras books, do EE nor eat properly regarding the Paleo diet.

... wanting / needing to bury my head in the sand. I felt so inadequate, depressed, unmotivated. All I could do was pray, daily with as much feeling as I had. The PoTS is like a lifeline to me in a stormy sea sometimes :)

I am trying to commit to the Work, and perhaps falling off the bandwagon now and again, provides me with necessary lessons. So perhaps its time to write another story, and in doing so by reflecting and cross referencing from the valuable data I have, I will fill in the gaps of the mosaic within a mosaic and see a bigger picture myself.

I bought a blank writing pad months ago, with the intention of going through the notes I made of Laura and Arks presentation in Barcelona last year and writing down my current understandings from what I have read. I need to interpret data and personal experiences in my own way to Learn, but fear and apathy have stopped me thus far. Yet, only I can remedy this situation.

Dear dreamrider,

It is very common for any person to find him or herself in a state that is like you said "falling off the bandwagon", and if you feel alone in this don't be! I too know the sting of feeling unmotivated or at least lacking in the zest for making a signifcant contribution to the Work and networking (either due to insufficient time or personal inadequacies). Your struggle would infact be necessary considering the long and worthwhile task of learning to be a selfless being. If you can see past the linear thinking patterns that occasionally blind our courage for esoteric truth, while maintaining your vigilance when it comes to the tasks you mentioned like EE, plaeo eating, and networking then you are on the right path. Anything worthwhile takes time and the journey, no matter how long it takes, is what is most important of all because the journey of the whole learning process is much more critical than the final destination.

Your interpretation of the pots is quite relatable. I often have a sense of balance when it comes to hearing it while staying focused on deep belly breathing. As for your ability to learn, you've got nothing to lose as far as writing it down in your own way of understanding - how else would we learn?

Believe it or not, I'm glad you mentioned these difficult feelings. I know I'm not alone either.

 

[Gary]

Thank you Celtic Warrior, your comments have meant alot to me! :) It is often easier not to express our deepest feelings, our struggles, so I value your feedback. I have often read posts that have helped me enormously yet didn't have the time to reply or felt it may not have been necessary. Learning to Ask, to perhaps show our vunerable side, has been a big lesson in itself for me.

Since my last significant EE, I have found renewed inner focus and a sense of calm. A recent SOTT article has really moved me into action again. I intend to do EE tonight, without the beatha section. I know I am not alone and that knowledge itself makes me feel so much more empowered.

 

[cassandra]

Okay, I'm really feeling the benefits of EE. I had an extremely painful neck and shoulder all day. After one EE session, it's much, much better.

 

[truth seeker]

Okay, I'm really feeling the benefits of EE. I had an extremely painful neck and shoulder all day. After one EE session, it's much, much better.

Yep, it's amazing isn't it? Glad to hear you're feeling better. :)