Éiriú-Eolas - Breathing Program

[Explorer]

Hey everyone, just a teeny update with a quick question.

I've started going the three-stage breathing after a long break of only meditation before bed. I'm getting more or less the same effects as last time: fatigue and a feeling of frustration and edginess. I feel like punching pillows like I used to do but just don't have the energy. I hope this doesn't mean I'm not getting the benefits of release, or maybe even some kind of ill effect because I don't release the feelings. This will probably come with time.

I was also curious as to how important is it focus on Laura's count during the three-stage breathing, because my mind tends to wander.

Thanks guys. :D

Hi Explorer,

If your mind wanders, that's a good reason to focus on the counts and make it stay there. One of the benefits of the program is to build concentration and Will. If 3-stage breathing is bringing up emotions that interfere with your rest, it's perfectly ok to do it at another time and just do the meditation before you go to bed.

You're still getting some healing even with this. Still, feel free to do each part of the program at whatever time of day you feel it will do you the most good. That's one of the big pluses about it! :)

Thanks for the reply, heron. I tend to do the breathing in the evening. Maybe earlier on in the day would be better.

 

[Bluestar]

After about a year and a half, I finally had the courage to do the Ba Ha portion of EE. There have been many obstacles this past year and half, that I could only manage occasional pipe breathing and POTS. Mostly due to my plunging deep into the 'A' influences in my life.

My mother had been ill for this time and I was constantly driving the 2.5 hr drive to her home to visit/Dr. visits/hospital visits, etc... Plus having to keep my business going and all the other 'A' stuff. She passed on 2/27 and then there was a brief mourning time, which was cut off due to having to completely focus on my business. Yesterday when I felt at a deep chasm of feeling sorry for myself, I did EE up to POTS because as the prayer started, the flood of emotion was so overwhelming all I could do was sob. And sob I finally did! For an hour. It felt good to release so much emotions that I had put on a back burner. Actually before this session of EE, I thought there was something wrong with me cause I was not feeling much of anything. Ocassional tears would well up but I would stop them to continue what I was doing.

Here is where the understanding and knowledge vs human emotions has kicked in. Knowing that she is in 5D and even though I can actually feel her presence at times, my human side misses her so much. Being blessed with a mother that was truly there for me, gave me a certain amount of security that no longer exists. This I have to find within myself. And even when she was losing her memory, and thought I was preparing for the "worst", was shocked at how unprepared I was. Hit me hard. Am still in shock that this happened the way it did. At the moment my human side has many to blame, but am assuming that it was her time to go and go she did. Her suffering is no more. She did suffer much especially the last 3 years and her body was just so broken it could no longer stand all the things she had to go through. So I fight the predator mind with rational thoughts and the blame game is subsiding. Continued EE WILL help this!

The small pamphlet/book discussed in the March transmission http://cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php/topic,30858.540.html was copied and have been reading it. These tools are invaluable. Truly invaluable. Thank You!!!

I can feel me coming through all this stuff and back on the mission so to speak. Am trusting that the fog clears and that the daily practice of pipe breathing/POTS and the biweekly full EE, the 'B' influence, takes a stronghold and roots itself within my being.

Also this was not to have a pitty party, it was to instill to anyone who needs it, the assurance how valuable EE, diet and gaining knowlegde/Being is.

 

[Carl]

Since it seems to deal with illness quite well, does anyone have a positive story of EE helping to heal an injury.

I wonder, because on Monday I fell off a skateboard (don't even ask) and quite severely damaged my hand, to the point where I couldn't clench my first or twist my hand. The next day I was in a lot of pain, and was convinced that it was broken, however I avoided hospital as I was too busy, and just put a compression bandage on. Anyway, I went to my 9th rolfing session (2.5 hours, very deep emotional cleansing), and when I came home I did the EE program, minus warrior's breath (it hurt too much to jerk my arms up and down). I swear during the meditation I felt a deep, warm 'glow' in the affected area.

Anyway, yesterday I woke up and it had recovered massively, from about 5% to ~60% health. I was able to write, ride to work, and carry plates all day, just being a little careful of it. Today I can type perfectly again, play guitar, and bend it backwards more.

Just thought this was a cool thing and I'm wondering if anyone has experienced similar things?

 

[Brenda86]

Since it seems to deal with illness quite well, does anyone have a positive story of EE helping to heal an injury.

I wonder, because on Monday I fell off a skateboard (don't even ask) and quite severely damaged my hand, to the point where I couldn't clench my first or twist my hand. The next day I was in a lot of pain, and was convinced that it was broken, however I avoided hospital as I was too busy, and just put a compression bandage on. Anyway, I went to my 9th rolfing session (2.5 hours, very deep emotional cleansing), and when I came home I did the EE program, minus warrior's breath (it hurt too much to jerk my arms up and down). I swear during the meditation I felt a deep, warm 'glow' in the affected area.

Anyway, yesterday I woke up and it had recovered massively, from about 5% to ~60% health. I was able to write, ride to work, and carry plates all day, just being a little careful of it. Today I can type perfectly again, play guitar, and bend it backwards more.

Just thought this was a cool thing and I'm wondering if anyone has experienced similar things?

Ah, once before I had had quite a lot of pain in one of my front teeth where I had previously had an abscess and it was a similar feeling. When I did EE that night I also felt a feeling similar to what you described here and the pain was gone by the next day.

 

[daddycat]

I found it difficult to concentrate on Beatha the last two times, maybe because I was laying down. The first two times I was sitting and didn't have a problem losing focus.

 

[mcb]

I found it difficult to concentrate on Beatha the last two times, maybe because I was laying down. The first two times I was sitting and didn't have a problem losing focus.

That could be. For some people (including me) it is sleep-inducing.

 

[pete02]

I found it difficult to concentrate on Beatha the last two times, maybe because I was laying down. The first two times I was sitting and didn't have a problem losing focus.

That could be. For some people (including me) it is sleep-inducing.

Me also. That's why I do the first three phases sitting down (preferably leaning up against a wall to relax) and only for the Pots do I lay down.

 

[monotonic]

I never know what to do when it gets to the part where she says "keep breathing this way until your body naturally returns to normal breathing". It sounds like I'm supposed to fall asleep, or become distracted, because otherwise it's not going to happen unless I choose, and at that moment. So I might as well just start breathing "normally" right away. The only time I experience "automatic" breathing is when I'm completely identified, or dreaming. Otherwise, I breathe in the nose and out the mouth all day long; breathing out the nose seems to put me in a hypnotic, dreaming fog. In fact, as long as I do this I can't fall asleep; I must begin breathing out my nose in order to fall asleep. It may be that this way of breathing has become normal for me, but it is not automatic in the way EE seems to assume.

 

[Iarrthoir Firinne]

I find Laura's voice instantly calming, her tone is beautiful, melodic. I have found it easier to concentrate if I'm sitting up, but always do the meditation after hopping into bed and fall asleep really quickly afterwards (if not before!). :)

 

[mcb]

I never know what to do when it gets to the part where she says "keep breathing this way until your body naturally returns to normal breathing". It sounds like I'm supposed to fall asleep, or become distracted, because otherwise it's not going to happen unless I choose, and at that moment. So I might as well just start breathing "normally" right away...

You can do that if you like. I usually do a few more pipe breaths beyond those in the script and then go back to breathing normally. For me there is nothing "automatic" about it as a rule. If you have been doing other breathing just before POTS then maybe it doesn't matter one way or the other if you do the pipe breaths, if you are already relaxed. It could be hard to relax, however, while thinking about what you are "supposed" to do!

The only time I experience "automatic" breathing is when I'm completely identified, or dreaming. Otherwise, I breathe in the nose and out the mouth all day long; breathing out the nose seems to put me in a hypnotic, dreaming fog. In fact, as long as I do this I can't fall asleep; I must begin breathing out my nose in order to fall asleep. It may be that this way of breathing has become normal for me, but it is not automatic in the way EE seems to assume.

I wonder if you would always be able to tell when you were experiencing automatic breathing. It is, after all, "automatic." Once you notice it, is it still?

You could also just do what feels comfortable for you during the rest of the day. I think what is most important at other times is to breathe using your diaphragm. That is something I learned from doing yoga, and I am glad that it is part of EE too.

 

[daddycat]

I found it difficult to concentrate on Beatha the last two times, maybe because I was laying down. The first two times I was sitting and didn't have a problem losing focus.

That could be. For some people (including me) it is sleep-inducing.

Yesterday I remained sitting during Beatha and had no problems concentrating. So for me I need to remain seated for Beatha. I did have the sensation of falling maybe 5 times during Beatha while seated; I think if I was laying down I would have lost concentration at that moments.

 

[monotonic]

I wonder if you would always be able to tell when you were experiencing automatic breathing. It is, after all, "automatic." Once you notice it, is it still?

I can tell in so far as it is always obvious when I breathe out my nose, and that when I go completely out of touch with my environment, that is what happens. It seems to be the unconscious fallback.

 

[s-kur]

Hi everyone!
previously sorry for my english) I have any question about EE...alll o'key,all good,but "sensations of the body" in the Ba-Ha breathe, especially after the "acceleration" very strange..as if all my body is "cramp", very intense mild tingling ,it is not pain, some satisfactory also...but it SO intensivity..At first it i'm fright.When i'm open my eyes, i see,that my fingers are very tense,but i can easy move it..feeling captures the entire body except the bottom and front of the head.
Has anyone experienced this? with which it can be connected? or so needed?

 

[s-kur]

Also i'm read posts about tingling,i think,that my tinkling are VERY VERY VERY strange)first in EE i'm stopped when it's "grew", but today I held on to the end, casting aside all fear!!!!and it was "cool" at the same time and with a huge load on the body, as if he had all the inside of the stomach pushes up and down ... I felt the weight of my belly)

 

[Nienna]

Hi everyone!
previously sorry for my english) I have any question about EE...alll o'key,all good,but "sensations of the body" in the Ba-Ha breathe, especially after the "acceleration" very strange..as if all my body is "cramp", very intense mild tingling ,it is not pain, some satisfactory also...but it SO intensivity..At first it i'm fright.When i'm open my eyes, i see,that my fingers are very tense,but i can easy move it..feeling captures the entire body except the bottom and front of the head.
Has anyone experienced this? with which it can be connected? or so needed?

When doing the Ba-Ha, if you listen to Laura, she says to breathe gently. So maybe you are breathing too hard and fast. I was doing the same thing and had the same results as you. After making myself breath gently while doing the Ba-Ha, the cramping and most of the tingling did not occur.

Also, we ask all new members to introduce themselves in the Newbies board. Just tell us a little bit about yourself, nothing personal, and how you found the forum. If you aren't sure what to write, help yourself to looking at how others have done it to get some ideas. :)