Éiriú-Eolas - Breathing Program

[Rich]

I apologize if this is a basic question. I searched this thread.

I was wondering whether doing the Éiriú-Eolas twice a week is a form of ritual? I'm probably too tired at the moment to think clearly. I was just wondering what the difference is between repetition and practice, and ritual. I suppose I wouldn't consider brushing my teeth everyday to be ritual, because I think brushing prevents cavities. I've seen the Éiriú-Eolas discs that explain the science behind the ha breathing, so I suppose my doing it wouldn't be ritual then?

I think you've answered your own question with your brushing teeth analogy. It does take practice and concerted effort to develop the most benefit out of the methods. I see it (and experience it) as a form of training for the brain which over time enables greater control over harmful automatic stress responses. You can label a repeating process what you want to, if you label it as a ritual then that is what it will be to you. I think it might be a useful exercise to ask youself why you're asking this question. Are there reasons (or experiences youve had) why you are associatting negatively with the word ritual and why is this of concern to you?

 

[daddycat]

I apologize if this is a basic question. I searched this thread.

I was wondering whether doing the Éiriú-Eolas twice a week is a form of ritual? I'm probably too tired at the moment to think clearly. I was just wondering what the difference is between repetition and practice, and ritual. I suppose I wouldn't consider brushing my teeth everyday to be ritual, because I think brushing prevents cavities. I've seen the Éiriú-Eolas discs that explain the science behind the ha breathing, so I suppose my doing it wouldn't be ritual then?

I think you've answered your own question with your brushing teeth analogy. It does take practice and concerted effort to develop the most benefit out of the methods. I see it (and experience it) as a form of training for the brain which over time enables greater control over harmful automatic stress responses. You can label a repeating process what you want to, if you label it as a ritual then that is what it will be to you. I think it might be a useful exercise to ask youself why you're asking this question. Are there reasons (or experiences youve had) why you are associatting negatively with the word ritual and why is this of concern to you?

The Cs have said ritual drains to 4D STS.

 

[monotonic]

EE is like brushing teeth, except it's not nearly so obvious. Can you tell when your mind is being cleaned? I guess not immediately.

If you're looking for immediate benefits from the EE program, or for the experience to be different every time, then you are anticipating. It is hard to comprehend and recognize the ways the EE program benefits you in the long-term unless you've read plenty of material on the unconscious.

My understanding is that EE is like a mindfulness meditation where one stays in a state of self-remembering. Spurious thoughts restart the problematic personality machine with all its quirks, and while this is going on the unconscious can't work on EE. So it is important not to use EE time to think about whatever comes to mind.

If you anticipate the process you inhibit it. If you do it every time anticipating some result, then it could be a ritual. I think it is helpful to remember before EE the ideas of self-remembering, non-anticipation, and the adaptive unconscious.

But I could be terribly wrong..?

 

[sairie]

I have a question of concern. I have been doing the E.E. program for about a year or so now keeping a journal of each time I do it and have never felt more relaxed with so little to bother me save this; my wondering of how living with another who with my gentle asking/suggesting of him doing E.E. he has said to me that " I am violating his free will." I know and remember the post in her by Laura/C's and have even showed it to him with no effect in getting him to see that it is for everyone that it is essential to self work and awareness/ knowledge gathering for preparing for the wave/transition to 4D.


« Reply #262 on: July 21, 2009, 11:07:17 AM »

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The recent focus of discussion around the breathing program has turned a little bit towards cleansing, releasing of blockages a.s.o., which I think is an essential need for must of us. But beyond that we have been reminded again and again that knowledge protects and ignorance endangers. We would most probably be much better of in this environment, if we could establish at least a limited communication with our higher centers and receive some assistance. I felt this need for long time and it motivated me to undergo hypnotherapy sessions and ask for assistance from my inner physician and subconsciousness. I reported this in earlier threads and it has yielded some results. The breathing sessions have brought it one step further and I have hope that all of us will be able by one way or the other to establish a direct connection with our higher centers as the C's suggested.


Please note what the Cs said in the last session:

Quote from: Cs

Keep in mind that in order for the techno-spiritual techniques to work, the people of the "blood" must be purified and their chakras must be "connected".

(L) So basically, we can recapitulate by saying that people need to learn to breathe. Breathing can change things in their physiology. And also they need to use the breathing to get themselves into a meditative state, or a state where they can do the bioenergetic breathing, which then helps them to release karmic and current life programs and issues and get a cleansing. Once they've started to become cleansed, then they are able to - and this is supposed to be interspersed with, as I understand it - continuous input of data and information. They did say that you use this to deal with reality. This meditating and breathing is not an escape, this is a healing. Meanwhile, you're supposed to at the same time - throughout the day - you're supposed to be paying close attention to reality and not falling into illusion. Okay, so we've got that part of the program. And then once these people begin to clear out their traumas and their programs and get free of illusions and so forth, that means that they are then better able to use facing reality and thinking with a hammer to connect their chakras. And that, I assume, means connecting to their higher intellectual center and higher emotional center. Of course, you connect the emotional center first and then the intellect comes in also. So, in other words, they become kind of like connected with themselves in the future so to say. Am I on track so far?

A: Yes. But we would like to point that all "souled" individuals are members of a fragmented 6D soul/being. When they begin to connect with their future/higher centers, this implies a natural connecting with the other members of their soul group.


I want to suggest that you do not try to "jump the gun". I sorta suspect that if the Cs had thought that anyone needed to do more than the breathing and meditating right now, they would have said so.

Keep in mind that, the instant any system is formulated for a positive purpose, there will be a whole raft of "thoughts" or "novel ideas" that just appear in the mind that seem to be useful, but can be due to either the predator's mind, programming, or thought wave transmission from STS sources with the intent of destroying your ability to actually make positive progress.

The Cs did not suggest using Reiki with the breathing/meditation, or anything else. So please, for now, all of you just follow the program as it is.

ADDED: Clearing emotional blocks/burdens and karmic blocks/burdens is the prerequisite for doing anything else. Notice also that the main OTHER thing that is continued throughout this process is "knowledge input on a continuous basis."

Your ability to discern is based on being able to remove your blinders and increase your knowledge. The very fact that you still think that you can think with the way you think is evidence that you are not free of emotional blocks nor have you increased your knowledge.

Think about it.
« Last Edit: July 21, 2009, 11:17:22 AM by Laura »

He does read/follow the Sott.net and the C's trans. some of this forum and RT. he has also said in so many words that E.E. is primarily for those who have had trauma abuse or neglect recently or as you ( meaning me ) with your upbringing. I feel that yes, it has and can help GREATLY with these but also for those who have not, though now a days who has not had some form of trauma in their lives. I am concerned for him and want to help yet do not want to violate his free will or interrupt the lessons he needs to learn. I have not been asking or saying things like see this is evidence of you having programs buffers in place and E.E. would remove them. yet I have noticed an increase in him saying to me that he gets seriously grated nerves by me talking a certain way ( singularly, when we are discussing if I ( meaning me ) were in a situation what I'd do. No I simply say that, that is not what I meant to do to you and apologize, or stop talking/change the topic.) One of many different things that really bother him which makes me wonder if I am back sliding or if this is a sign that he is is need of E.E. He says at times to me that E.E. is making me more relaxed, gentle to be around and sees its effects changes that are, have been so positive. or is this a cover to mask things? Am I handling things poorly if so what do I do/say differently?

 

[Nienna]

I apologize if this is a basic question. I searched this thread.

I was wondering whether doing the Éiriú-Eolas twice a week is a form of ritual? I'm probably too tired at the moment to think clearly. I was just wondering what the difference is between repetition and practice, and ritual. I suppose I wouldn't consider brushing my teeth everyday to be ritual, because I think brushing prevents cavities. I've seen the Éiriú-Eolas discs that explain the science behind the ha breathing, so I suppose my doing it wouldn't be ritual then?

I think you've answered your own question with your brushing teeth analogy. It does take practice and concerted effort to develop the most benefit out of the methods. I see it (and experience it) as a form of training for the brain which over time enables greater control over harmful automatic stress responses. You can label a repeating process what you want to, if you label it as a ritual then that is what it will be to you. I think it might be a useful exercise to ask youself why you're asking this question. Are there reasons (or experiences youve had) why you are associatting negatively with the word ritual and why is this of concern to you?

The Cs have said ritual drains to 4D STS.

Maybe looking at what the Cs - and Laura - see as ritual would help you?

http://cassiopedia.org/glossary/Ritual

The difference between ritual and a procedure done for a specific end is that in the case of the ritual there is a belief and expectation that the ritual will accomplish a function simply because it is done as it always has been. Performing a procedure involves understanding the steps and how these interrelate, why they are done and what the effect of each is. Even though it may be done for a specific end and in the same way each time, baking a bread is not a ritual, that is, unless its ostensible purpose be something other than making bread.

The idea of ritual vests the ritual act with some power that the person performing the ritual wishes to appropriate. The power is seen as external to the self, a sort of mechanical resource that can mysteriously be commanded by will and form.

There is more said at the link given above if you are interested.

 

[herondancer]

He does read/follow the Sott.net and the C's trans. some of this forum and RT. he has also said in so many words that E.E. is primarily for those who have had trauma abuse or neglect recently or as you ( meaning me ) with your upbringing. I feel that yes, it has and can help GREATLY with these but also for those who have not, though now a days who has not had some form of trauma in their lives. I am concerned for him and want to help yet do not want to violate his free will or interrupt the lessons he needs to learn. I have not been asking or saying things like see this is evidence of you having programs buffers in place and E.E. would remove them. yet I have noticed an increase in him saying to me that he gets seriously grated nerves by me talking a certain way ( singularly, when we are discussing if I ( meaning me ) were in a situation what I'd do. No I simply say that, that is not what I meant to do to you and apologize, or stop talking/change the topic.) One of many different things that really bother him which makes me wonder if I am back sliding or if this is a sign that he is is need of E.E. He says at times to me that E.E. is making me more relaxed, gentle to be around and sees its effects changes that are, have been so positive. or is this a cover to mask things? Am I handling things poorly if so what do I do/say differently?

Hi NinaMosi,

At this point it seems to me that what he may be asking for is less, or no conversation about Work or EE, as he is feeling pushed about it. He is reading the cass material (which is great), but everyone needs to come to things in their own time. He says he notices positive changes in you because of your EE practice. That may be enough for now. Later on he may decide he would like to see those changes in himself,and bring up practicing EE himself but again, he needs to come to them on his own. Just keep up your own work. Your example will speak much louder than words.

 

[SMM]

Hey everyone,
I ordered Éiriú-Eolas earlier in the week, arrived yesterday so I wanted to stop by & say thanks for the fast processing & delivery :)
Been using the online version to date.
Will be moving to shared residence in a few hours - got here in good time.

In regards to ritual, would doing it in the same position be considered ritual?
I generally do it in bed lieing on my back due to bad circulation in the lower extremities, notably the feet.

 

[aragorn]

Hey everyone,
I ordered Éiriú-Eolas earlier in the week, arrived yesterday so I wanted to stop by & say thanks for the fast processing & delivery :)
Been using the online version to date.
Will be moving to shared residence in a few hours - got here in good time.

In regards to ritual, would doing it in the same position be considered ritual?
I generally do it in bed lieing on my back due to bad circulation in the lower extremities, notably the feet.

Doing EE lying on your back is completely okay, to get the breathing going without becoming too tense or feeling physical pain is important. After some time, you might want to try the sitting position at least in Pipe Breathing and Warriors breath. Doing some warm up routine before the program, might be a good idea, too.

As I see it, a ritual would be doing some procedure in hope of changing your reality, without knowing exactly what and why you're doing it - trying to "trick" the higher forces from below. It's all about your intentions.

 

[mcb]

...Doing EE lying on your back is completely okay, to get the breathing going without becoming too tense or feeling physical pain is important. After some time, you might want to try the sitting position at least in Pipe Breathing and Warriors breath. Doing some warm up routine before the program, might be a good idea, too.
...

I have mainly been doing all of it lying down, because of problems with my lumbar discs and with my feet/legs, but I find that I can now in fact do it sitting, at least if I don't do it that way too often. One variation I use is to sit upright in my recliner, which takes considerable pressure off the discs while still working reasonably well for pipe breathing.

Other variations I have used successfully are lying in the tub, soaking in epsom salts, or lying in the FIR sauna blanket. This may not be ideal, but it allows sharing the time between EE and detox, and seems better than having to skip one or the other.

As I mentioned earlier, if you do EE in the tub you should make sure you aren't going to slide under the water if you zone out! I have a small tub and I am tall, so that is not a problem. Also, I do a "virtual" warrior's breath (more mental than physical) to avoid splashing water all over the room.

 

[mcb]

It's easy to forget this from year to year but I was reminded last night that EE can be helpful with spring allergies. I went through the full program last night, starting out with burning eyes and finishing with NOT burning eyes!

I find that I have to be careful to breathe gently enough to not stir up my nose and sinuses, particularly while inhaling through the nose. There seems to be a balance point that can be found by experimentation.

I have noticed in general over the years that "belly breathing" can help with respiratory problems (I originally discovered this while doing yoga), but EE (as opposed to simple belly breathing) seems to work especially well. It also seems to help with recovering quickly from colds.

 

[salinafaerie]

It's easy to forget this from year to year but I was reminded last night that EE can be helpful with spring allergies. I went through the full program last night, starting out with burning eyes and finishing with NOT burning eyes!

I find that I have to be careful to breathe gently enough to not stir up my nose and sinuses, particularly while inhaling through the nose. There seems to be a balance point that can be found by experimentation.

I have noticed in general over the years that "belly breathing" can help with respiratory problems (I originally discovered this while doing yoga), but EE (as opposed to simple belly breathing) seems to work especially well. It also seems to help with recovering quickly from colds.

I'm just getting acquainted with the EE breathing program. If I'm feeling uwell after body work a few days ago and with allergies, should I not do EE right now since I'm new?

Just wondering.

Thanks.

:)

 

[Alana]

It's easy to forget this from year to year but I was reminded last night that EE can be helpful with spring allergies. I went through the full program last night, starting out with burning eyes and finishing with NOT burning eyes!

I find that I have to be careful to breathe gently enough to not stir up my nose and sinuses, particularly while inhaling through the nose. There seems to be a balance point that can be found by experimentation.

I have noticed in general over the years that "belly breathing" can help with respiratory problems (I originally discovered this while doing yoga), but EE (as opposed to simple belly breathing) seems to work especially well. It also seems to help with recovering quickly from colds.

I wanted to add to that that after last nights EE, all my body aches from arthritis just went away. I don't have as much body pain nowadays as I used to (due to the diet changes and regular EE) but recently the weather has been more humid than usual where I live, and I did have a few more carbs than usual the last few days, plus some more stress. So yesterday I woke up feeling very very old. After I did the program however before bed, I slept like a baby for 9 hours straight (rare for me) and got up feeling like new :D

 

[Alana]

I'm just getting acquainted with the EE breathing program. If I'm feeling uwell after body work a few days ago and with allergies, should I not do EE right now since I'm new?

Just wondering.

Thanks.

:)

Well, your question is very general so I am not sure what you are asking for exactly. In the end, it's up to each individual, and it is their responsibility, to do as much reading as possible before they try anything new. So if you truly are not sure whether EE is for you right now, watch the EE DVD first (intro and how to perform the exercises part - can find it online for free at EEbreathe.org) and you might read this thread as well.

 

[daddycat]

I did Éiriú-Eolas for the 2nd time 2 days ago. I am sick, but when I was done, I felt great for an hour or two, like I wasn't sick.

 

[Brenda86]

I have had trouble finding time to get back into the breathing program, but I have decided it is absolutely necessary to begin again, so today my mom is going to watch my older daughter for a few hours (to go play with my niece :D) and my fiance is going to take care of the baby while I take some time out to do to the whole thing!

I do keep the POTS in my head a LOT, though. One of my absolute favorite things to do is just to sing it however it comes out, especially while driving. I find that POTS plus a few pipe breaths really help me calm down when I need to refocus. I also have to say I believe the POTS is part of what brought me out of my depression and back to the network, as a few weeks before I came back I "realized" somewhere along the way I had stopped my nightly ritual of meditating on it as I would go to sleep at night.

When I began to do that again, and to say the POTS either in my head or aloud whenever the thought came to mind, I started to come out of my fog. I am seeing more and more of my shortcomings and mechanical behavior every day - probably more than I even did when I was here before, helping me to examine the way I automatically react to things and definitely not always liking what I see.

I can definitely attest to the power just the POTS has to do its work slowly if you are coming from a place of non-anticipation.