Éiriú-Eolas - Breathing Program

[s-kur]

Hi everyone!
previously sorry for my english) I have any question about EE...alll o'key,all good,but "sensations of the body" in the Ba-Ha breathe, especially after the "acceleration" very strange..as if all my body is "cramp", very intense mild tingling ,it is not pain, some satisfactory also...but it SO intensivity..At first it i'm fright.When i'm open my eyes, i see,that my fingers are very tense,but i can easy move it..feeling captures the entire body except the bottom and front of the head.
Has anyone experienced this? with which it can be connected? or so needed?

When doing the Ba-Ha, if you listen to Laura, she says to breathe gently. So maybe you are breathing too hard and fast. I was doing the same thing and had the same results as you. After making myself breath gently while doing the Ba-Ha, the cramping and most of the tingling did not occur.

Also, we ask all new members to introduce themselves in the Newbies board. Just tell us a little bit about yourself, nothing personal, and how you found the forum. If you aren't sure what to write, help yourself to looking at how others have done it to get some ideas. :)

Okey,Nienna! Thanks,i'll do it!

 

[mcb]

Also i'm read posts about tingling,i think,that my tinkling are VERY VERY VERY strange)first in EE i'm stopped when it's "grew", but today I held on to the end, casting aside all fear!!!!and it was "cool" at the same time and with a huge load on the body, as if he had all the inside of the stomach pushes up and down ... I felt the weight of my belly)

Have you done much of this kind of breathing in the past? I wonder if you are feeling what it is like to take in lots of air. Breathing with your diaphragm can bring in much more of it.

As Nienna said, breathe gently during Beatha. If I breathe too deeply during that, I end up with chills.

 

[Explorer]

I've recommended the breathing program to the porn addiction forum I am in. Hopefully it can help them as much as it is helping me.

 

[Jono]

Doing EE today is the first time I've had dreams (that I remember) whilst being on the diet, they were a nice surprise.

 

[Explorer]

I've decided that for the time being I am going to stick to the meditation. I don't think I'm quite ready for the strong detox of three-stage breathing and beatha. Two weeks time might be a different story.

 

[mcb]

I've decided that for the time being I am going to stick to the meditation. I don't think I'm quite ready for the strong detox of three-stage breathing and beatha. Two weeks time might be a different story.

You could re-introduce the pipe breathing first, when you feel ready, and the Beatha later. In the mean time you can notice how you breathe during the day, and make sure to use your diaphragm when you inhale. Hopefully doing just that won't produce any unpleasant side effects, and it might make the pipe breathing easier later on. Diaphragmatic breathing requires less effort than chest breathing, and has its own benefits.

 

[Mrs.Tigersoap]

Lately sessions have been quiet, with nothing much to report.
Beatha is done only when we feel a deeper 'cleansing/release' is needed.

I don't really zone out but my mind apparently wanders on a subject, then I suddenly snap back and it seems like a long time has passed ( in reality, it hasn't).
I have great difficulty remembering what the subject was but the few elements I can grasp on to when I snap back are usually silly images (s.o's t-shirt, food, sth I saw on TV or read about, etc.)
For some reason, I have the feeling that these silly images are just a screen projected by my mind to hide what is really going on. I could be wrong, it's just the impression I get every time it happens.

It feels like my mind is doing its own thing behind my back and does not want me to know about it. You know, the usual stuff.

 

[Mountain Crown]

I don't really zone out but my mind apparently wanders on a subject, then I suddenly snap back and it seems like a long time has passed ( in reality, it hasn't).
I have great difficulty remembering what the subject was but the few elements I can grasp on to when I snap back are usually silly images (s.o's t-shirt, food, sth I saw on TV or read about, etc.)
For some reason, I have the feeling that these silly images are just a screen projected by my mind to hide what is really going on. I could be wrong, it's just the impression I get every time it happens.

It feels like my mind is doing its own thing behind my back and does not want me to know about it. You know, the usual stuff.

This happens to me frequently as well. After snapping back with little memory of the mental activity, I've wondered if I've just become aware to some extent of system 1.

 

[Gaby]

I've been experimenting by re-focusing and re-directing emotions. Sometimes the emotions triggered during the day are so overwhelming that the only way to settle them down is through EE. I try to re-focus them, use them as fuel for putting all my intent effort to "reach out" the DCM.

A few days after experimenting with that, at the end of April, I had one very relieving dream. I am going through the Narcissistic Family, doing the exercises suggested there. After reading the "I Feel...I Want" explanation in the book, I did PotS and ended up dreaming with some events in my childhood that were incredibly difficult and never quite remembered them with such detail until that dream. I was expressing how I was feeling about the whole drama/craziness around me at a very early age, and I was basically being followed up to my hiding place (my room, underneath the covers in my bed) where I am continually yelled at for having expressed how I felt. I felt incredibly guilty because of my "ingratitude". I also felt incredibly helpless because I could not keep them out of my room. Hiding underneath the covers so I wouldn't hear anything would not make it go away either. I must have been very little because there were pink Micky Mouse linens on my bed. I remember those, that was a loooong time ago! I could have been between 4 and 6 years old.

It was not traumatizing, on the contrary, I felt very relieved the next day. Like there was more air to breath in the environment!

The dream I had that night shifted to a sort of like an old style dining room with an incredibly intricate woodwork furniture. I'm standing there, facing the door that goes into a hallway and I am greeting a dog. Then, there was this message voice: "there were 16000 families and only 4 were allowed to live and/or continue their rule on this world". Hence the rest were "taken care of" in a not very pretty way. Whatever that means, who knows, but I understood that "my family" didn't make it back then. I could be wrong, but I think the dream was a symbolism of a body-mind-soul fragmentation.

Overall, I feel I can focus more on the PotS when I do it. Almost as if a layer of obstruction has been cleared out. I usually put a starry background on my meditation and then imagine the letters as I say the prayer. The next day of the dream, I found a poster of the milky way in an office, pretty starry, like in my meditation. The new artwork for the cass manual discussed in the latest session is also very appropriate!

Today I did pipe breathing, beatha and the PotS. I wandered during 3 stage breathing pretty much like you guys described above. Then I zoned out during beatha, but came back just in time for PotS where my mind wandered again as Mrs. Tigersoap describes. I'm going to experiment on refocusing tonight before going to bed to see how it goes.

I'm finding that it comes a bit more natural to focus my mind and emotions during the day. So I'll continue experimenting with this, step by step.

One thing is for sure, EE rules! :)

 

[ajseph 21]

I had a similar type of emotional release dream after a recent pots session. Long story short it was about my stepfather who was abusive to my family and had threatened to kill us with a knife (this happened when I was child). In the dream he threw the knife at me and it hit the ground but in the dream I was more present and unlike the real event there was no fear just awareness. I woke up relieved so yes EE rules!

 

[RGG]

It's been forever since I posted on this board... Lately I'm super stressed and constantly lose focus during EE because my mind is racing. I practiced EE very routinely for about 2 years and processed much deep layered emotional stress and could easily do 2 full EE programs per week without all hell breaking lose like it did in the beginning when I started. I'm wondering if doing the entire program more often would be more beneficial at this point or to just stick to pipe breaths. It's irritating me that I can't relax and focus as well as I used to be able to. Has anyone else noticed what kind of balance worked best when confronted with real time high stress situations as opposed to processing old stuff? I can't afford to waste time and I'd be very thankful for an expert opinion or a redirection to a link.

apologies if I've missed this info somewhere in this thread but I just don't have the mental faculties to be hunting for this info at the moment.

Renee

 

[herondancer]

Hi Rx,

Perhaps it could be that you are processing more stuff, as well as the circumstances of your life at the moment? Also, how is your diet? In times of stress it's easy to let things slide because you might feel there's no time to shop or cook well.

In any case, the pipe breathing and the meditation will do you good, even if you aren't exactly feeling it at the moment. Writing out some of the situations might help you get a better grip on them too. You can check the Redirect thread if you're not familiar with the process, or share it in the Swamp to get some helpful feedback.

Hang in there! Nothing lasts forever.

 

[RGG]

Hi Rx,

Perhaps it could be that you are processing more stuff, as well as the circumstances of your life at the moment? Also, how is your diet? In times of stress it's easy to let things slide because you might feel there's no time to shop or cook well.

In any case, the pipe breathing and the meditation will do you good, even if you aren't exactly feeling it at the moment. Writing out some of the situations might help you get a better grip on them too. You can check the Redirect thread if you're not familiar with the process, or share it in the Swamp to get some helpful feedback.

Hang in there! Nothing lasts forever.

Thanks for that heron dancer. Your right, best not to over think things and stick to the pipe breaths and POTS as much as possible and the Twice weekly full meditation. Writing would help also for this I think- thank you for reminding me about that. If my mind is racing maybe getting it all down on paper first will help me focus better with the meditation after. It's worth a try for sure- being so scattered during meditation is highly annoying!

I'm so waiting for relief...

I remember watching a funny episode of TV series called Northern Exposure where all of the residents of this very small, remote town in Alaska would experience extreme squirreliness, act strangely and feel a sensation of energy build up in anticipation of the local ice sheet cracking in the spring. As soon as it broke everyone felt such relief, tension was released and they all became normal again. I always thought that episode was so funny but now I feel just like one those characters!!

Can't wait till the ice sheet cracks!!

 

[Mountain Crown]

Hi Rx,

The anti-stress aspects of EE are enhanced considerably if we do some serious stretching beforehand - legs and waist in particular.

Let go of any concern about wandering thoughts, attend to your breathing whenever you can.– fwiw.

 

[paralleloscope]

Hi, I'm doing a mockup EE DVD presentation for exams in multimedia on Thursday and was wondering if there are any high quality graphics lying around (searched but couldn't find any), such as logo, source photos for background images or DVD cover?