Éiriú-Eolas - Breathing Program

[Oxajil]

My only thought about falling asleep is whether I'm missing out on some benefits.

I think that even when you fall asleep and have the meditation on, you will continue to have the same benefits on some level. :)

 

[Gawan]

My only thought about falling asleep is whether I'm missing out on some benefits.

I think that even when you fall asleep and have the meditation on, you will continue to have the same benefits on some level. :)

I agree and no worries about falling asleep, there is nothing bad about it. "Missing something out", as you wrote could only mean that you would anticipate something ;).

 

[SMM]

Did the full program earlier. I hadn't done the Bioenergetic breathing for a while - it was very calming, put my body into a very relaxed state.

 

[Angchop]

I did the full EE program tonight and it went really well. I did a lot of zoning out during the Ba-Ha portion. What I could remember during one of the times that I zoned out I saw a full size piece of paper that had the words "Jules Verne" Typed on it. I find that quite odd..I don't really know what to make of it. I know that he was the author of "Around the world in 80 days"

I feel amazingly relaxed right now and I suspect that I will get some good rest when I go to bed tonite!

 

[Angchop]

I did the full program last night. During the Ba-Ha portion I zoned out pretty good and at one point I saw my father who passed away 25 years ago. I must say, he looked pretty good :)

Anyway during the POTS I was in my sauna blanket and I don't remember much after about 5 minutes since I fell asleep. I felt well rested after and I slept really good last night.

This morning I woke up, and I felt like crying for no reason. I am definitely having more feelings come up lately, and hopefully I am working through some old stuff.

 

[mcb]

I did the full program last night. During the Ba-Ha portion I zoned out pretty good and at one point I saw my father who passed away 25 years ago. I must say, he looked pretty good :)

It's just amazing to me what other people experience during Beatha. I get cold and fall asleep (if I am not shivering too much), and that's it. Even an encounter with my father (deceased since 1981 and our relationship has never been better) would be more interesting than that. Recently I have reduced the "cold" problem by breathing more gently, which means I fall asleep even more quickly. That is useful for dealing with insomnia, though.

Anyway during the POTS I was in my sauna blanket and I don't remember much after about 5 minutes since I fell asleep. I felt well rested after and I slept really good last night.

The FIR blanket used to combine well with EE for me. I have discontinued it while I deal with eczema problems that began with the ketogenic diet, which means I have hardly used it in two years, but EE and especially POTS can work in a warm Epsom salts bath too (more compatible with eczema). And with either the sauna blanket or the bath, shivering during Beatha is not a problem.

This morning I woke up, and I felt like crying for no reason. I am definitely having more feelings come up lately, and hopefully I am working through some old stuff.

Yes, a good cry for no reason can do wonders.

 

[Angchop]

It's just amazing to me what other people experience during Beatha. I get cold and fall asleep (if I am not shivering too much), and that's it. Even an encounter with my father (deceased since 1981 and our relationship has never been better) would be more interesting than that. Recently I have reduced the "cold" problem by breathing more gently, which means I fall asleep even more quickly. That is useful for dealing with insomnia, though

This is interesting Megan...last night when I was doing the Beatha I got super warm and had to turn on the fan. On another occasion I did feel some cold in my chest, and I attributed that to breathing hard, and when I did breathe easier the cold went away.

I never thought about doing EE while in an epsom salt bath..sounds relaxing I will have to try it.

 

[mcb]

...I never thought about doing EE while in an epsom salt bath..sounds relaxing I will have to try it.

I omitted a few details. EE is an essential ingredient, as are candlelight and lavender oil drops (or other essential oil -- a high quality brand, of course) in the water. And a couple of practical ingredients, namely ascorbic acid and baking soda. The guide I use can be found at _http://scdlifestyle.com/2013/01/how-to-take-epic-epsom-salt-baths/

I limit the temperature, because otherwise I can have overwhelming fatigue afterward and that is not the idea. If I include pipe breathing and/or Beatha then the temperature can be a little higher for that (and I even turn on the Jacuzzi!), but afterward I run a little cold water and then shut off the pump before moving into POTS.

I think it is a great way to do a LONG, relaxing, non-boring detox soak. Just make sure, as I have mentioned here before, that you can't fall asleep and slide underwater.

 

[Angchop]

I omitted a few details. EE is an essential ingredient, as are candlelight and lavender oil drops (or other essential oil -- a high quality brand, of course) in the water. And a couple of practical ingredients, namely ascorbic acid and baking soda. The guide I use can be found at _http://scdlifestyle.com/2013/01/how-to-take-epic-epsom-salt-baths/

I limit the temperature, because otherwise I can have overwhelming fatigue afterward and that is not the idea. If I include pipe breathing and/or Beatha then the temperature can be a little higher for that (and I even turn on the Jacuzzi!), but afterward I run a little cold water and then shut off the pump before moving into POTS.

I think it is a great way to do a LONG, relaxing, non-boring detox soak. Just make sure, as I have mentioned here before, that you can't fall asleep and slide underwater.

Great information Megan...thanks for the added details! It does sound very relaxing

 

[mada85]

This is an update after a long time (too long) away from EE.

Last Sunday (six days ago) I spent the whole day reading here on the forum and The Wave vol 8. I felt really energised in the evening and couldn't get to sleep until a good two hours after my usual time. But then the strangest thing happened - the following day I started having a strong detox reaction. As though the input of knowledge left no room in my mind for old 'stuff' and this was mirrored in my body. I had episodes of intense sleepiness at work that day.

I did the full EE that evening (my first in too long) and noticed some resentment about my life situation coming to the surface. I stayed with that but it had passed by the following morning, leaving me feeling more relaxed. But the detox process was, if anything, intensified. All this week I've been having episodes of intense sleepiness at work. I've been napping when I get home in the evening too, as well as my usual sleeping hours.

By Thursday I had more energy, but then after Thursday's full EE I the evening the detox reaction was in full swing again! But I feel OK in myself, and as a result of the EE I feel calmer and in much less of a hurry. I am however noticing quite a tendency to dissociate over the past few days. I don't think that tendency is anything, it's just that EE has given me the eyes to see.

I omitted a few details. EE is an essential ingredient, as are candlelight and lavender oil drops (or other essential oil -- a high quality brand, of course) in the water. And a couple of practical ingredients, namely ascorbic acid and baking soda. The guide I use can be found at _http://scdlifestyle.com/2013/01/how-to-take-epic-epsom-salt-baths/

I limit the temperature, because otherwise I can have overwhelming fatigue afterward and that is not the idea. If I include pipe breathing and/or Beatha then the temperature can be a little higher for that (and I even turn on the Jacuzzi!), but afterward I run a little cold water and then shut off the pump before moving into POTS.

I think it is a great way to do a LONG, relaxing, non-boring detox soak. Just make sure, as I have mentioned here before, that you can't fall asleep and slide underwater.

This forum is amazing! I've been thinking about accelerating the detox process. I followed my nose to the EE thread and there was your post, Megan. Just when I needed it! Thanks for posting, Megan. I'm off to have an Epsom salts bath as described at the link you gave.

 

[Ollie]

I can empathise with you Endymion, I've had similar experiences over the past couple of weeks. First of all issues arising from deep-tissue body massage sessions and Alexander Technique lessons, and their subsequent detoxing, and associated sleepiness by midday and a need to go sleep in the evening earlier than normal. Secondly, after Monday and Thursday EE sessions it was as if the whole detoxing process was amplified, seemingly coming out of every pore, or orifice of my body, and requiring even more sleep hours at night.

Like you, I experienced a more relaxing and energetic life 'life' in between. :)

 

[Lidia V.]

Hi there,
I would like to share with you some of my so-called visualisations, which happened to me recently. I suspect that they are connected with practising EE program. I started EE about 10 months ago. I do the whole program twice a week and 3step breathing and meditation couple of times a week (if I have time). These visualisation don't appear after breathing exercises but before I go to bed or at night when I'm half awake. They are kind of border-experiences. Recently I saw labyrinth called Petaloid and blue light coming into it and going the whole way straight to the centre. Then Petaloid became 3d and I could look at it from different angles. The light was coming like a wave straight to the centre of the labyrinth. Then Petaloid became a visualisation of a human brain, actually - it became a human brain. I checked how the brain looks like and what is in that place where the blue light came. It is pineal gland. I started digging the net and found out that pineal gland, according to various sources, can serve as a portal to certain reincarnations. DMT which is produced by this gland is connected with higher states of consciousness and death experience. My question is: could it be that EE activates pineal gland? Has anybody experienced something similar? I have also other visualisations - with my navel. It looked like a black hole surrounded by events nested in time in fractal way. I sometimes see my navel as 3d structures similar to a city seen as when you look at it from a plane.
And I also found this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xQ8mnTLTtc - according to one of interpretations it is a DMT molecule (I found this info here: it is a polish text but there are images - you can compare this crop circle and dmt molecule http://instytutarete.pl/poczytaj/cialo/na-zdrowie/470-szyszynka-tunele-rzeczywistosci-i-2012.html )

Could anyone help me to interpret these visualisations? I'm a bit confused and don't know what to do. It seems like some kind of information is coming straight to my brain
If this is not the right topic - please put this text in a more proper place
Thank you

 

[astrozombie]

Hi Lidia.

In short, you are on teetering on the edge of having an OOBE. Meditation induces OOBE in many people and many people use breathing techniques as a form of meditation.

Next time this occurs, immerse yourself in the experience.

 

[monotonic]

Different people have different ideas of and experience "immersion" differently so what you're saying is very subjective and not very considerate. Immersion ends up being whatever one wants it to be, and pure subjectivity is dangerous and pointless for one wanting to grow.

OSIT

 

[astrozombie]

Different people have different ideas of and experience "immersion" differently so what you're saying is very subjective and not very considerate. Immersion ends up being whatever one wants it to be, and pure subjectivity is dangerous and pointless for one wanting to grow.

OSIT

I can't find any reason for your aversion to the word "immerse" since one of it's widely accepted definitions is to engage oneself in wholly or deeply, much like a scholar does when researching a subject or looking for the truth.

Perhaps you believe the danger lies elsewhere because I do not follow your logic to this being dangerous by subjectivity alone.