Éiriú-Eolas - Breathing Program

[realitybugll]

I was doing the mediation today, And I zoned out for possibly just 30 seconds total. I was a pilot in a plane, that was being hijacked by 5 men. And the last two verses before I snapped out of it, of the POTS became an internal dialogue that I was having, either I could resist and I'll get roughed up, or I can proceed the plane the fueling station ( it was on the ground). Kind of interesting. It happens to me before that the words of Laura start to transform into other words and meanings, when I dissociate. One minute I was thinking about an email I to write to someone, the next minute, listening intently "open your eyes, so that you may see...", and then in that dissociative state, as a pilot, then back in bed and my body felt a bit hot. happens only with Laura's words. C's are right, must be special sound frequencies.

 

[Persej]

Interesting experience, wetroof. Try not to dissociate, maybe your zoning out will increase. But I wonder if it was the real zoning out, because people usually don't remember anything during that process.

Last night I had a quite strong energy influx. I still feel the warmth in my belly. It was not as strong as it used to be, but it was much stronger that what I felt in the previous year. Now I feel much more warmth in my body. I think I'm making a progress.

 

[Oxajil]

Thank you for sharing wetroof. I agree with Persej to try to focus on the words and on your breathing as best as you can. It's difficult to keep the focus, but I think with practice it can become easier. :) It does sound like you zoned out there. See also this:

12. QUESTION: I've been practicing the entire program for the past few nights and at some point i snap into a dream state where i don't even hear the audio at which point I realize I'm dreaming and snap out again. What is going on?

ANSWER: This is normal and a good sign that something is happening. I call it "zoning". I don't know where you go or what you are doing, but generally, after it happens for awhile, you start to get some other action going in the emotions department.

So perhaps some go into a dream state, while others have no idea what went on when they were ''gone''! Either way, I think it's a good sign.

Last night I had a quite strong energy influx. I still feel the warmth in my belly. It was not as strong as it used to be, but it was much stronger that what I felt in the previous year. Now I feel much more warmth in my body. I think I'm making a progress.

Interesting! I did a quick search and it's mentioned here that: "The biological role of these vagal functions is not directly the regulation of body temperature, rather the regulation of energy balance and energy content in the body."

Maybe, in addition to what Konstantin wrote earlier to you, vagus nerve stimulation is having a positive effect on your energy levels, and indirectly is affecting your body temperature.

 

[Persej]

Maybe, in addition to what Konstantin wrote earlier to you, vagus nerve stimulation is having a positive effect on your energy levels, and indirectly is affecting your body temperature.

Maybe, but I'm not sure how much the vagus plays a role here because this happens only when I meditate, and when I do that I don't stimulate my vagus, since I don't constrict my throat and the airflow is very small.

What is important is that everything changed after my "exorcism". Something definitely happened to me in that dream.

My recent dreams are again very deep, like when I started with the iodine, but they are not much meaningful so far.

 

[Oxajil]

Maybe, but I'm not sure how much the vagus plays a role here because this happens only when I meditate, and when I do that I don't stimulate my vagus, since I don't constrict my throat and the airflow is very small.

What is important is that everything changed after my "exorcism". Something definitely happened to me in that dream.

My recent dreams are again very deep, like when I started with the iodine, but they are not much meaningful so far.

Ah, I see! Usually I do a few pipe breaths to help me get into a relaxed state before the meditation, but doing it without sounds good too. Reading what you wrote, it appears that something is surely ''in motion"!

 

[whitecoast]

Interesting experience, wetroof. Try not to dissociate, maybe your zoning out will increase. But I wonder if it was the real zoning out, because people usually don't remember anything during that process.

Last night I had a quite strong energy influx. I still feel the warmth in my belly. It was not as strong as it used to be, but it was much stronger that what I felt in the previous year. Now I feel much more warmth in my body. I think I'm making a progress.

Yes, interesting wetroof. It sounds like your experience happened when you entered a stronger theta state. Theta state is the REM state where you can have strong hallucinations/visuals. Many people experience nothing at all when zoning out, which I think indicates entering a more somnambulant state... I think that is more like the Delta state, similar to a deep, dreamless sleep. Gurdjieff says that accessing the higher intellectual center feel equivalent to a blackout state. I wonder if the intermediary state of catatonic, hypnagogic visuals is more like your accessing the higher emotional center, which according to Mouravieff is symbolic in its language. Just speculation on my part.

Persej, I have experienced similar EE effects as you initially in terms of getting a huge energy burst during the bioenergetic exercise. After getting a lot of spirit release on my own I noticed I don't writhe as much as I used to. I think the physical energy could be like the body somaticizing some type of kundalini like force. Since the etheric channels are no longer blocked by feeding entities (or whatever) it is no longer redirected and just flows naturally where it is meant to. Again, these are just ideas I've had trying to make sense of my own experiences.

I seem to get a better sleep and wake up earlier when I do the bioenergetics. I'm not really sure why.

 

[Persej]

Ah, I see! Usually I do a few pipe breaths to help me get into a relaxed state before the meditation, but doing it without sounds good too.

I tried that at the begining but I would always feel like all the blood is coming to my head and that my pressure is rising so I stopped doing it. When I do it during the EE I don't have any problems, but I cannot do it while lying. So I just put my body in a meditative position, wait a little, and then start reciting the PotS.

Reading what you wrote, it appears that something is surely ''in motion"!

Yes, it feels like I'm repairing my aura or something.

Persej, I have experienced similar EE effects as you initially in terms of getting a huge energy burst during the bioenergetic exercise. After getting a lot of spirit release on my own I noticed I don't writhe as much as I used to. I think the physical energy could be like the body somaticizing some type of kundalini like force. Since the etheric channels are no longer blocked by feeding entities (or whatever) it is no longer redirected and just flows naturally where it is meant to. Again, these are just ideas I've had trying to make sense of my own experiences.

Yes, I think you are right about that.

I seem to get a better sleep and wake up earlier when I do the bioenergetics. I'm not really sure why.

I don't feel the energy burst during the bioenergetic breathing. Maybe sometimes a little bit of energy, but nothing like what I can feel during the meditation. Maybe that will also change over time, but that is how it is for now. For better sleep, pipe breathing is my favorite technique.

 

[sToRmR1dR]

I've found this "combination" of EE (online version) very beneficial,and I'd like to share:

Monday:

I.EE Breathing Program; II.POTS;

Tuesday:

I.PB+POTS; II.PB+POTS;

Wednesday:

I.3SB+WB+POTS; II.PB+POTS;

Thursday:

I.EE Breathing Program; II.POTS;

Friday:

I.3SB+POTS; II.PB+POTS;

Saturday:

I.PB+POTS; II.PB+POTS;

Sunday:

I.3SB+WB+POTS; II.PB+POTS;

Some changes:


Tuesday:

I. PBx3+POTS II. PB+POTS


Saturday:

I. PBx3+POTS II. PB+POTS

:)

 

[kalibex]

Haven't been consistent in doing EE in the past, but now I understand my ambivalence - after taking some time off from it then trying it again, finally realized that certain weird side effects from the bioenergetic breathing that tended to show up the day after (related I think now to the resurfacing/processing of some nasty bullying-related emotional trauma from junior high) were indeed somewhat 'kundalinic'. But I then noticed that people in this thread have occasionally reported similar after-effects.

 

[beetlemaniac]

I've found this "combination" of EE (online version) very beneficial,and I'd like to share:

Monday:

I.EE Breathing Program; II.POTS;

Tuesday:

I.PB+POTS; II.PB+POTS;

Wednesday:

I.3SB+WB+POTS; II.PB+POTS;

Thursday:

I.EE Breathing Program; II.POTS;

Friday:

I.3SB+POTS; II.PB+POTS;

Saturday:

I.PB+POTS; II.PB+POTS;

Sunday:

I.3SB+WB+POTS; II.PB+POTS;

Some changes:


Tuesday:

I. PBx3+POTS II. PB+POTS


Saturday:

I. PBx3+POTS II. PB+POTS

:)

Hi Stormr1dr, that is quite an involved schedule. I would love to try it out for my own EE practice. At what time do you normally do the exercises, especially the full ones on Mondays and Thursdays? I assume that the II. portion is done at night before sleep.

 

[A Jay]

Hi Stormr1dr, that is quite an involved schedule. I would love to try it out for my own EE practice. At what time do you normally do the exercises, especially the full ones on Mondays and Thursdays? I assume that the II. portion is done at night before sleep.

I agree that's a pretty involved schedule, but not a bad idea.

I've been pretty consistent with my Monday/Thursday full program regimen, especially since getting my crystals (I've been placing the home and personal stones on my heart and the dream stone on my head during my latest sessions just out of curiosity). Which is really helpful in battling/keeping under control negative thought loops/anxiety/worrying. But I've not been consistent with daily meditation or pipe breathe, and I can definitely tell that my stress/anxiety levels are up on my 'off' days. Time to experiment with more 'on' days and see what happens.

Thank you for sharing wetroof. I agree with Persej to try to focus on the words and on your breathing as best as you can. It's difficult to keep the focus, but I think with practice it can become easier. :) It does sound like you zoned out there. See also this:

12. QUESTION: I've been practicing the entire program for the past few nights and at some point i snap into a dream state where i don't even hear the audio at which point I realize I'm dreaming and snap out again. What is going on?

ANSWER: This is normal and a good sign that something is happening. I call it "zoning". I don't know where you go or what you are doing, but generally, after it happens for awhile, you start to get some other action going in the emotions department.

So perhaps some go into a dream state, while others have no idea what went on when they were ''gone''! Either way, I think it's a good sign.

Thanks for sharing this Oxajil! I forgot about the EE FAQ, lots of good info in there to go back over.

 

[sToRmR1dR]

I've found this "combination" of EE (online version) very beneficial,and I'd like to share:

Monday:

I.EE Breathing Program; II.POTS;

Tuesday:

I.PB+POTS; II.PB+POTS;

Wednesday:

I.3SB+WB+POTS; II.PB+POTS;

Thursday:

I.EE Breathing Program; II.POTS;

Friday:

I.3SB+POTS; II.PB+POTS;

Saturday:

I.PB+POTS; II.PB+POTS;

Sunday:

I.3SB+WB+POTS; II.PB+POTS;

Some changes:


Tuesday:

I. PBx3+POTS II. PB+POTS


Saturday:

I. PBx3+POTS II. PB+POTS

:)

Hi Stormr1dr, that is quite an involved schedule. I would love to try it out for my own EE practice. At what time do you normally do the exercises, especially the full ones on Mondays and Thursdays? I assume that the II. portion is done at night before sleep.

Hi bm!

The I. portion am doing around noon (doesn't matter if it's full EE or not), and yes the second before sleep (after 11:00 pm). :)

 

[sp00k1502]

Hello,

I would like to try out the online version of the program but I can't find examples of the breathing- and the warm-up excercises. I'm using the following link: http://eiriu-eolas.org/online-version/. Could someone point me in the right direction as without knowing what the warm-up excercises are I can't follow the program.

Thanks in advance for your response.
Sp00k

 

[Meg]

Hello,

I would like to try out the online version of the program but I can't find examples of the breathing- and the warm-up excercises. I'm using the following link: http://eiriu-eolas.org/online-version/. Could someone point me in the right direction as without knowing what the warm-up excercises are I can't follow the program.

Thanks in advance for your response.
Sp00k

Hi Sp00k1502,

Welcome to the Forum! Stretching is great as a warm up to EE. There are some stretching exercises that were linked earlier in the thread which are posted below.

Hi people, I'm thinking on adding these stretches prior to my EE. Lately EE has been working wonders, its still amazing for me how much potency this technique is, I haven't find anything similar but I want to improve it.

So if you can spare some minutes, maybe this stretches can help relax before dong EE.

_http://youtu.be/FTaFWFCqBzg
daily charge and ground stretching routine

_http://youtu.be/Hxar8p0WcIM
4 critical stretches that cure your worst imbalances

_http://youtu.be/zD-3j2g9w9U
Daily bio-energizer warm up routine

Elliott adds these stretches related mostly to bioenergetic and breathing.

One of the EE teachers may have other suggestions for you. Good luck with the program and please keep us posted on your progress. :)

Since this is your first post on the forum, we would appreciate it if you would post a brief intro about yourself in the Newbies section, telling us how you found this forum, how long you've been reading it and/or the SOTT page, whether or not you've read any of Laura's books yet, etc. You will find examples of introductory posts in that section to get an idea.

 

[Gawan]

Hello,

I would like to try out the online version of the program but I can't find examples of the breathing- and the warm-up excercises. I'm using the following link: http://eiriu-eolas.org/online-version/. Could someone point me in the right direction as without knowing what the warm-up excercises are I can't follow the program.

Thanks in advance for your response.
Sp00k

The suggested warm-up exercises are contained in the DVD set as a print out and I couldn't find an uploaded pdf version. What you could do is doing some very gently warm up exercises you maybe already know: some stretchings for example, some very simple yoga exercises. The important thing is just doing some gentle exercises to get in touch with your body so to speak.