Hi Adam
Have you tried asking yourself what your emotional connection to 'UFOs' is? It seems that these things do have an impact of some sort on you emotionally (fear? fixation?).....and perhaps the two above quotes are the clue to why they show up during E-E? They are perhaps appearing to keep control of your emotional landscape....to keep your energy focused on 'them'. So as to not free yourself from them and regain control with E-E?
fwiw
Hi anitasweetie
I think this is a pretty normal experience when it comes to the E-E program. The feeling of 'someone else' being there can be related to part of yourself you are unconscious of....a part of yourself you have dissociated from. That's not to say it always is....but its probably nothing to worry about.
The many voices where probably Little I's
Did all of this happen during or after the Round Breathing part? It has been recommended that should there be too much 'weirdness' going on that you should drop the Round Breathing part, and reintroduce it some time in the future (after a month or two of doing the program without it).
Doing the Prayer of the Soul every night before sleep (with a few pipe breaths before hand) is the most beneficial thing you could do I think. :)
Just wanted to add another update....more dreams but I think they are related to the effects of the E-E program so wanted to post them here.
Was feeling quite disheartened about pretty much everthing in my life last night....I realised whilst doing the pipe breathing that this is just the effects of no longer identifying with anything in my life.
Dreamt of my old house being empty except a little furniture, of helping prune thistles into a more balanced shape in the garden (this particular symbolism I really don't have a clue about?).....and finally dreamt of watching a video on the SoTT site from a conference Laura and the gang attended.
The background noise was really loud at this place, and one of the girls in the group said/signed 'Welcome to sign language'.....which I heard clearly. From there I could hear the announcer introduce a speaker over the top of the noise and chatter. The room was pretty dark except for the stage lights, and everyone was sat around round tables (Laura and gang where sat at the back of the room).
I went and sat (no longer watching a video) in the middle of the room to watch the speaker who I seemed quite excited about. His mic produced a lot of feedback/distortion which I pointed out and he corrected it enough for me to make out what he was saying....he was pretty dry/technical...and I'm not sure anyone else was listening, but I was riveted even though I couldn't completely follow what he was saying.
A woman sat to my left asked me if I knew what he was talking about? I tried to relay what I could....and this is what I remember.
It was a talk on a social mathematical modeling of the population under the influence of pathology. That is to say that it described our current world from an over view using maths to model the populations mechanical behaviour to the pathological influences, and although it wasn't said I don't think (I woke up half was through the presentation) it could probably be used to predict outcomes, as well as what inputs (i.e. what the pathology would try and do to influence the people).
An example I explained to the lady (although I also said it was not a good example....I was still trying to grasp the concept) was that of the fear generated in the population around the 'swine flu pandemic'. I asked her, what do you think of it now? She said she thought there was nothing to the pandemic...as it didn't happen. This flipping of mass opinion was part of the equation I said. The speaker mentioned the Iraq war as another example of a mass flipping of opinion.
The dream ended with me scrolling through the transcript of the presentation looking at the formulas and trying to take them in.
Now in hind site I know dreams can be an excellent source of disinformation.....and there may not be anything that's not already been covered by others in the dream....but it sure did have a large emotional impact on me. I woke up with butterflies in my stomach. Feeling excited and slightly queasy at what I'd just learnt.
I don't know if I have learnt anything...or if its deliberate misdirection...or if it was important though.
Still, it has given me a large desire to try and study the field of mathematical population modeling with a knowledge of pathology, hyperdimentional influence and 'man as machine' as a foundation.
adam7117 said:Keel talks a lot about the phenomenon targeting neurotics and ill-informed people. I can certainly see aspects of both in my own make-up and this is where more work is required - EE is definitely a great aid in that direction.
adam7117 said:Today, during round breathing I had an encounter with the seemingly-unexplained (at ~6.55pm - 7pm, last hour of daylight). I breathe in a bedroom overlooking Brisbane city, with a fairly good view of the sky in the southerly direction, as the compass would have it. During the chest stage, I noticed a bright dot of light emerging from behind the city. It became much brighter and tripled (if not more) in size. It looked like it was heading in my direction.
Have you tried asking yourself what your emotional connection to 'UFOs' is? It seems that these things do have an impact of some sort on you emotionally (fear? fixation?).....and perhaps the two above quotes are the clue to why they show up during E-E? They are perhaps appearing to keep control of your emotional landscape....to keep your energy focused on 'them'. So as to not free yourself from them and regain control with E-E?
fwiw
anitasweetie said:Had a strange experience last week while doing the EE, during the round breathing part. It felt like something came in through the door, a voice in my head told me not to worry, but I could still feel fear, an unusual kind, from head to toe. Didn't like that voice, didn't trust it. Then another voice in my head started yelling LIGHT,LIGHT,LIGHT. The only thing I could think of was the pillar of light (page 133 Bringers of the Dawn) Still doing the round breathing, I imagined the pillar of light down through the top of my head and out through the solar plexus about five times. Finished the EE, was shaking, it felt like I had been dipped in ice water.
Afterwards sitting at the table, I remembered a voice from 22 years ago, that told me to go to my Aunt's house. The voice kept me from being killed. Memories flooded me, but I couldn't cry to help cleanse...
Sorry about the length of this post, hard to explain my thinking without the background. My partner and I did EE again tonight. During the round breathing, kept thinking, after reading alot on the forum this week, that the experience from last week, was really a challenge to think differently...
Hi anitasweetie
I think this is a pretty normal experience when it comes to the E-E program. The feeling of 'someone else' being there can be related to part of yourself you are unconscious of....a part of yourself you have dissociated from. That's not to say it always is....but its probably nothing to worry about.
The many voices where probably Little I's
Did all of this happen during or after the Round Breathing part? It has been recommended that should there be too much 'weirdness' going on that you should drop the Round Breathing part, and reintroduce it some time in the future (after a month or two of doing the program without it).
Doing the Prayer of the Soul every night before sleep (with a few pipe breaths before hand) is the most beneficial thing you could do I think. :)
Just wanted to add another update....more dreams but I think they are related to the effects of the E-E program so wanted to post them here.
Was feeling quite disheartened about pretty much everthing in my life last night....I realised whilst doing the pipe breathing that this is just the effects of no longer identifying with anything in my life.
Dreamt of my old house being empty except a little furniture, of helping prune thistles into a more balanced shape in the garden (this particular symbolism I really don't have a clue about?).....and finally dreamt of watching a video on the SoTT site from a conference Laura and the gang attended.
The background noise was really loud at this place, and one of the girls in the group said/signed 'Welcome to sign language'.....which I heard clearly. From there I could hear the announcer introduce a speaker over the top of the noise and chatter. The room was pretty dark except for the stage lights, and everyone was sat around round tables (Laura and gang where sat at the back of the room).
I went and sat (no longer watching a video) in the middle of the room to watch the speaker who I seemed quite excited about. His mic produced a lot of feedback/distortion which I pointed out and he corrected it enough for me to make out what he was saying....he was pretty dry/technical...and I'm not sure anyone else was listening, but I was riveted even though I couldn't completely follow what he was saying.
A woman sat to my left asked me if I knew what he was talking about? I tried to relay what I could....and this is what I remember.
It was a talk on a social mathematical modeling of the population under the influence of pathology. That is to say that it described our current world from an over view using maths to model the populations mechanical behaviour to the pathological influences, and although it wasn't said I don't think (I woke up half was through the presentation) it could probably be used to predict outcomes, as well as what inputs (i.e. what the pathology would try and do to influence the people).
An example I explained to the lady (although I also said it was not a good example....I was still trying to grasp the concept) was that of the fear generated in the population around the 'swine flu pandemic'. I asked her, what do you think of it now? She said she thought there was nothing to the pandemic...as it didn't happen. This flipping of mass opinion was part of the equation I said. The speaker mentioned the Iraq war as another example of a mass flipping of opinion.
The dream ended with me scrolling through the transcript of the presentation looking at the formulas and trying to take them in.
Now in hind site I know dreams can be an excellent source of disinformation.....and there may not be anything that's not already been covered by others in the dream....but it sure did have a large emotional impact on me. I woke up with butterflies in my stomach. Feeling excited and slightly queasy at what I'd just learnt.
I don't know if I have learnt anything...or if its deliberate misdirection...or if it was important though.
Still, it has given me a large desire to try and study the field of mathematical population modeling with a knowledge of pathology, hyperdimentional influence and 'man as machine' as a foundation.