Éiriú-Eolas - Breathing Program

[Guardian]

Hi Guardian,

You are not alone in reporting hunger after doing the EE breathing exercises. Others have reported similar experiences. :)

Really? Well that is comforting, thax :)

I've read through the EE thread, and I didn't notice anyone else eating everything in the house, then looking at the cat's food...but I'll check again. It is a rather long thread. :)

 

[Gimpy]

98% of the population can feel the urge to expand their consciousness, whereas I get the urge to expand my waistline. Most other people seem to get life changing, metaphysical experiences....and I get the mega munchies. Sad

:D Don't feel bad. I don't have metaphysical experiences from EE either. You eat, I sleep. After doing EE I tend to sleep deep and wake up feeling better, if a bit light headed.

These sleeping sessions span about 10 to 12 hours btw. Wanna switch? ;)

 

[Guardian]

:D Don't feel bad. I don't have metaphysical experiences from EE either. You eat, I sleep. After doing EE I tend to sleep deep and wake up feeling better, if a bit light headed.

These sleeping sessions span about 10 to 12 hours btw. Wanna switch? ;)

Thanks for telling me.... for some reason, it actually does make me feel better to know I'm not the only one to have a very mundane response. Now I'm not sure what that say's about me .... "glad someone else is as screwed up as I am??"

Oh well, there is something to be said for being well rested and fed

 

[RedFox]

Well fwiw I may post all the 'odd' things that happen (but then 'odd' things have been happening to me my entire life that I wouldn't wish on anyone) but 90% of the time everything is pretty mundane.
I've done the full program and felt intensely hungry a few times, usually zone out...but mostly like gimpy just sleep a lot!
It seems that there is a lot of getting in touch with your body involved in all this....along with your emotions. These are actually Way more important than anything esoteric as far as I understand it.
The hunger thing can be a sign you are actually really thirsty. It could also mean that your digestive system is now working as it should!
Have you read The Fat Resistance Diet: by Leo Galland? Weight gain is a symptom inflammation (inflammation being caused by stress and the inflammatory food such as wheat, sugar, diary etc).
If your gut it inflamed too you may not be absorbing nutrients properly......if the E-E program has reduced the inflammation, maybe now your guts are working your are actually starving (due to there inability to absorb anything properly??
Have you started read over the diet section of the forum? Perhaps this is simply the bodies way of telling you that now is the time to cut these things out? fwiw :)

 

[Laura]

I merged the topics since others can benefit from this discussion.

The vagus nerve has the ability to activate the body to seek balance. If there are nutritional deficiencies or toxicity, it may very well manifest as appetite which is the body's way of seeking balance of some sort. Nutritional deficiencies can be due to gut permeability and that can be due to eating wheat and/or dairy or having an illness, or taking an antibiotic, etc.

Generally, I would think that, if you get a super hungry reaction, you need to study the situation, find out what is going on and fill the need the body is expressing.

If you get really sleepy from doing the program, you may very well need sleep.

Also, hunger could be a physiological expression of emotional or psychological stuff, too. Maybe you need more emotional support in your life?

 

[celtic]

I tried the EE Breathing routine before I went to bed last night, and it SERIOUSLY stimulated my appetite.

I dont no much about this condition but I get the same feeling and it maybe our vagus nerve sending
us a message about the balance and conditions of our organism and ect. If you have not already I
would recommand you read the guide about the EE experiences.

http://www.cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php?topic=14410.0

 

[Vulcan59]

Hi Guardian,
You are not alone in reporting hunger after doing the EE breathing exercises. Others have reported similar experiences. :)

Really? Well that is comforting, thax :)
I've read through the EE thread, and I didn't notice anyone else eating everything in the house, then looking at the cat's food...but I'll check again. It is a rather long thread. :)

It's easier to go through the EE Guide/FAQ as the experiences of others have been summarised there and it gets update quite regularly. :)

 

[Guardian]

Well fwiw I may post all the 'odd' things that happen

Actually, I was kinda hoping for something "odd" I LIKE odd.... odd can be fun. :)

but 90% of the time everything is pretty mundane.

I usually run about 50/50

I've done the full program and felt intensely hungry a few times, usually zone out

What exactly do you mean when you say "zone out?" Out where? Are yawl going (or trying to go) some place specific on the Outernet or just out for a wander?

It seems that there is a lot of getting in touch with your body involved in all this

I've heard the phrase "getting in touch with your body" before....and I still don't understand it. This is my body and I'm IN it ...how much more "in touch" with it could I get? It tells me, quite clearly, when it needs something and even comes with audible alarms....at both ends. I keep it well fueled, clean, lubed, and in a comfortable temp/humidity range, most of the time. It does what I tell it to do like a good little machine. Never gives me much problem...unless I do something stupid like eat pizza I left in the car. I can be "in touch" with its systems and tweak them, at the speed of thought, 'cause I'm usually right here sitt'in in it. I don't understand what I am trying to get "in touch" with ....or why? What do I want it to do after I establish contact?

The hunger thing can be a sign you are actually really thirsty.

That's true, but I drink ice water (or tea) non-stop, all day long. 6-8 bubba kegs a day worth. The craving is almost constant. Water is the one thing my body demands HUGE amounts of. It can go without anything else (but air) for quite some time, relatively unaffected..... but it needs a large amount of water to function properly.

It could also mean that your digestive system is now working as it should!

It works fine already. Food goes in, normal waste products come out, just like clockwork. I toss in some enzymes or algae, etc. now and again, according to texture.

You know... when I was young and old people would discuss their digestive functions, I remember thinking PLEASE don't ever let me get to the age where I think my pooping habits are a proper topic of conversation. Well, here I am.

Have you read The Fat Resistance Diet: by Leo Galland? Weight gain is a symptom inflammation (inflammation being caused by stress and the inflammatory food such as wheat, sugar, diary etc).

I don't eat wheat, don't like any grains really ...and use sugar and dairy when I need it for something. My diet is primarily (about 75%) meat, with beans, nuts, potatos, carrots, etc. thrown in for variety.

My weight problem is inflation of the gluteus maximus... because I have been sitting on it too much.

 

[Guardian]

The vagus nerve has the ability to activate the body to seek balance. If there are nutritional deficiencies or toxicity,

I think I am ok on toxins at the moment, but it wouldn't hurt to take a hank of hair in. My skin and eyes show exposure or ingestion of toxins almost immediately. I really did luck out and get a meatsack with great early warning systems. :)

Also, hunger could be a physiological expression of emotional or psychological stuff, too. Maybe you need more emotional support in your life?

Well, I am on an Internet forum discussing my bowel movements with relative strangers, sooooooo ...ya might be on to something there. :(

To me, my emotions are completely predictable biochemical responses to my thoughts. I choose my thoughts, hence I choose my emotions..... in theory. Now if I just didn't have such a difficult time picking the right thoughts to concentrate on

 

[Guardian]

If you have not already I would recommand you read the guide about the EE experiences.

http://www.cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php?topic=14410.0

Thanks celtic! I'll take a look :)

 

[Guardian]

It's easier to go through the EE Guide/FAQ as the experiences of others have been summarised there and it gets update quite regularly. :)

I did read the FAQ before I posted, and I just totally missed the line about hunger somehow :(

 

[Gimpy]

It seems that there is a lot of getting in touch with your body involved in all this

I've heard the phrase "getting in touch with your body" before....and I still don't understand it. This is my body and I'm IN it ...how much more "in touch" with it could I get? It tells me, quite clearly, when it needs something and even comes with audible alarms....at both ends. I keep it well fueled, clean, lubed, and in a comfortable temp/humidity range, most of the time. It does what I tell it to do like a good little machine. Never gives me much problem...unless I do something stupid like eat pizza I left in the car. I can be "in touch" with its systems and tweak them, at the speed of thought, 'cause I'm usually right here sitt'in in it. I don't understand what I am trying to get "in touch" with ....or why? What do I want it to do after I establish contact?

I love reading your posts Guardian, you rock! :D

A lot of people (and I know I'm one of them) tend to store emotional memories in their muscles, especially when living in dysfunctional surroundings and knowing that expression of said emotions wasn't possible at the time. Getting in touch with your body with the breathing will loosen the muscles up and release these emotions, and along with them sometimes come memories, or flashes of other stuff.

For an example: I have a very high pain threshold, and it's not normal. During my childhood if we cried when we got hurt we were punished. If we showed grief we were punished. Same with anger. And while I spent many years in therapy dealing with all those muscle memories and old emotions, when I first began doing the EE breathing it hurt. I had pain in my face and in different areas of my body. Sometimes it was just a flash of pain, others it was a deep ache that I just breathed through. So I slowed down on the breathing and took my time, and the pain worked its way out.

I have yet to cry a single tear during the EE or from it, but there are many ways to cry....mine tend to be the silent kind of tears, and I've spent years getting rid of grief in different ways (smashing plates is good for that, and for anger too).

Anyway, that's an example of what it means to get in touch with your body. Make better sense? ;D

I could be wrong here, but I also think past life stuff can be triggered by those muscle memories too?

 

[pete02]

What exactly do you mean when you say "zone out?" Out where? Are yawl going (or trying to go) some place specific on the Outernet or just out for a wander?

Well for me 'zoning out' is kinda like one minute I'm saying the POTS doing pipe breathing and the next thing I know the music is over and its like twenty or thirty minutes later. Basically like a loss of time. I had for the longest time thought I was just plain sleeping, which as I understand it is okay also, but I recorded myself one night with my laptop and it was actually pretty funny. At the same time it was good to know I was doing the program properly by watching myself after I was done. Anyway I was saying the POTS and my head started to tilt downward and I thought to myself "oh great, I've just been sleeping all this time" but then after a few seconds my head picked back up straight and it seemed like I actually did go straight into a 'zone' mode or something for about twenty minutes. What happened? Not sure, but if theres any truth to connecting with our higher selves I could definitely believe it because it sure seemed like something was going on!

 

[rrraven]

but I recorded myself one night with my laptop and it was actually pretty funny. At the same time it was good to know I was doing the program properly by watching myself after I was done.

what a brilliant idea I'll try that too

 

[Galaxia2002]

Guardian I am having hungry attacks sometimes! The vagus nerve innervates part of the stomach, it could mean that it is a reflex that we are doing well the stimulation of it! ;)