Éiriú-Eolas - Breathing Program

One thing that I’ve noticed this week is that my hearing has moved up a level, I hear things clearer and louder –“Clear my ears That I may hear”, otherwise it has been a fairly normal week for E-E and PotS.
 
Another thing I've noticed is that while doing the pipe breathing in a sitting position I can feel my sphincter or descending portion of my colon rise during the exhale. I'm taking this as a sign that I am indeed stimulating my vagus nerve as it ennervates this area of the body as well. The feeling was more pronounced yesterday after re-watching Laura's explanation of proper pipe breathing just to give myself a refresher and make sure I was doing it correctly.
 
Would it be a good idea to leave the POTS playing, through out the whole night while your sleeping? Like putting it on repeat with low volume, on a stereo. Just a thought.
 
Update:

This week I made the Baha portion and the meditate part, I was with a cold and have recover the last Tuesday; in the meditation part I was almost asleep. But felt very good. But yesterday I was in a middle of a strong emotion with my first Daughter she was telling me something and I felt very angry... :-[ :shock: it was a strong feeling inside of me I wanted to scream telling her why I thought what I said but in the same moment I realized that I was acting in that way that I was with a strong emotions to her and in that moment I said No no no why I feel this, what about my daughter why I'm doing this ???? :huh: :huh: :scared: This was the first time I've really open part of my emotions and right away I back to my daughter telling her that I was sorry; I realized about that program in me ; I apologized with her, I've never saw before but yesterday I did it and after that I REally REally felt like I take out a charge inside me you know like a bag of dirty socks that was in my heart !!! I really felt better and hope to take out more dirty socks from my soul :rolleyes:
So there is no way to really say thanks C´s , Laura and Team for spread this EE program it really works!!! ;)
 
zim said:
Update:

This week I made the Baha portion and the meditate part, I was with a cold and have recover the last Tuesday; in the meditation part I was almost asleep. But felt very good. But yesterday I was in a middle of a strong emotion with my first Daughter she was telling me something and I felt very angry... :-[ :shock: it was a strong feeling inside of me I wanted to scream telling her why I thought what I said but in the same moment I realized that I was acting in that way that I was with a strong emotions to her and in that moment I said No no no why I feel this, what about my daughter why I'm doing this ???? :huh: :huh: :scared: This was the first time I've really open part of my emotions and right away I back to my daughter telling her that I was sorry; I realized about that program in me ; I apologized with her, I've never saw before but yesterday I did it and after that I REally REally felt like I take out a charge inside me you know like a bag of dirty socks that was in my heart !!! I really felt better and hope to take out more dirty socks from my soul :rolleyes:
So there is no way to really say thanks C´s , Laura and Team for spread this EE program it really works!!! ;)

Yei to clearing out dirty socks from the soul, zim! :D It's a very appropriate way to put it actually, and it gave me a chuckle to read your description. But above all, it is heartwarming to see how the program helped you in observing yourself: catching yourself acting out a program, and being glad that you did too, so you won't take out your emotions on your daughter. Onwards, zim! :flowers:
 
Infiniteness said:
Would it be a good idea to leave the POTS playing, through out the whole night while your sleeping? Like putting it on repeat with low volume, on a stereo. Just a thought.

I'd certainly like to do that as well. I'm not an audio expert on how to do that.


Jerry said:
The Round Breathing stops my inner dialogue. Does this happen to anyone else?

Indeed, this happens to me as well. When focusing on the breathing itself, the inner dialogue would fade away or stopped. That's a good thing, osit.

As for an update:

For the last couple of weeks, I kept falling asleep whenever I reached POTS part of the meditation as happened both during the evening and in the afternoon (on weekend). It went "Oh Divine Cosmic Mind, Holy awareness in all creation..." and woke up when Laura said "Cosmic Mind bless you all." I don't think it didn't skip because it went a full length of the program. I kinda contribute it to being exhausted from work this month.
 
Just a quick update: I notice that I get sometimes so used to the counting, the breathing, etc. that I do it automatically and start thinking about other stuff. I force myself to come back to the counting, but it's not easy. So yesterday I tried to count for a longer time for once. I just followed my breathing and if I felt I could breathe in more, I would count until I was really full and then I would let go very very slowly and in a very controlled manner. I did that for a while and my average count was 9 (breathe in) and 15 (breathe out) instead of 6 and 9! I'm amazed because I used to be asthmatic and basically had no lung capacity to begin with. Also, my mind was so focused on the prolonged counting and careful release to see how far I would go that I did not once thought of something else!
I think all I needed was a bit of a challenge to get out of my rut. It was a welcome change.

FWIW
 
Bravo! A double benefit! With practice this slower, deeper pattern should become your default breathing mode. Have you noticed a lessened dependence on things like Ventolin and the maintenance med (can't remember the name, begins with "F"?) As you continue with the diet your lungs should become less and less "twitchy".

Perhaps someday very soon you will be able to say, "I used to be asthmatic!" :clap:
 
Mrs.Tigersoap said:
Just a quick update: I notice that I get sometimes so used to the counting, the breathing, etc. that I do it automatically and start thinking about other stuff. I force myself to come back to the counting, but it's not easy. So yesterday I tried to count for a longer time for once. I just followed my breathing and if I felt I could breathe in more, I would count until I was really full and then I would let go very very slowly and in a very controlled manner. I did that for a while and my average count was 9 (breathe in) and 15 (breathe out) instead of 6 and 9! I'm amazed because I used to be asthmatic and basically had no lung capacity to begin with. Also, my mind was so focused on the prolonged counting and careful release to see how far I would go that I did not once thought of something else!
I think all I needed was a bit of a challenge to get out of my rut. It was a welcome change.

FWIW

Thanks MT, I'm going to try this as well! I, too, have found that now that the counting has become habitual, my mind wanders to other thoughts. I find myself thinking about work, how I'm going to solve this or that problem, etc. It's been very tricky lately!
 
I have been doing EE off and on for the past few months and as is evident from this thread,
there were many strange and amazing experiences that I would never have thought would
originate from just changing my breathing patterns.

One particular experience that has happened twice is very powerful vibrations surrounding
the body, as many have also reported here. The thing is, when these vibrations come, I tend
to feel that I should be taking in more air by breathing IN and out through the mouth, basically
gasping for air. This is because it really intensifies the vibrations, to the point where it my body's
posture is sort of "contorted" by the vibrations. I'm not sure if it's healthy to veer away from
the normal breathing pattern of in through the nose and out through the mouth. Has anyone
tried doing it this way?

BTW thanks to everyone at QFG for this amazing program. Also thanks forge for posting such
detailed accounts of your experiences, they were very informative and many elements also resonated
with me.
 
These past few days have been an emotional rollercoaster! I've had two episodes of sudden and deep outpouring of tears. The first was to do with my inner Bluebeard program which I wrote about here, the second to do with musical potential lost because I did not understand earlier in my life that it might have been possible to overcome psychological blocks and demons – that concept just didn't exist, or at least was quickly shoved under the psychic rug if it ever surfaced in my mind. Between these two episodes was a sort of dead or fallow time where I just watched and read sci-fi, but continued with my daily POTS practice.

After the first episode of crying, which seemed to come from a much deeper place than usual, I noticed in myself that I was two. My normal everyday personality and something else, something that I did not quite recognize as 'me', although it was familiar in another way. I'm not sure if that was my essence, or even a real experience of what G describes in The First Initiation as learning to see one's two natures – the one that takes the place and plays the other's role - although it did feel like that. This experience lasted for a few hours, and then I could not resist my normal everyday personality crashing back with a vengeance which gave rise to the fallow time I mentioned above.

These 'eruptions' of tears happened with rather poor timing – 15 minutes before I needed to leave for work in the morning! And then back home in the evenings the tears did not want to resurface. If I try to encourage these feelings to resurface, for example before sleep, the result does not feel authentic. It feels forced, if that makes sense, and soon returns to the depths.

Actually, I have a question. Is emotional release as effective or valid when one digs it up, so to speak, as when it arises spontaneously? What does everyone think?

I've found that I can now really expand the lower portion of my belly in three stage breathing. It was something of a challenge to let this part relax as I seemed to be holding some fear there. But, I've let go of that tightness and everything is OK!

I also notice that the combination of a really healthy diet and EE is restoring my mental faculties. I'm more and more drawn to listen to classical music again – Mozart, Handel, Beethoven and J S Bach. There is plenty of other music I like, but it doesn't seem to have quite the same 'brain stimulation' as classical, at least for me. Bud recently started this thread about Mozart's music.

I've been practicing with the POTS and pipe breathing in bed before sleeping. Like Mrs T and others, the rhythm of the pipe breathing has become almost automatic and so I can now recite the POTS with it. When I relax into the rhythm of the breathing it takes on a life of its own and it's like riding a huge wave! This hasn't happened very often, but when it does it's really lovely.
 
Herondancer said:
With practice this slower, deeper pattern should become your default breathing mode.

Yes, I really enjoy it that way. Probably also because as an asthmatic, my problem is the release of air (asthmatics 'breathe in' a lot but have trouble 'breathing out') and this helps me get control of that fact.

Herondancer said:
As you continue with the diet your lungs should become less and less "twitchy".

Yes, my asthma has been 'in control' for years (I use my puff once a year), ever since I made the connection between food and asthma, especially with dairy. I still had some dairy but it was not enough to give me asthma. But since march, I quit completely and then I started the Ultra Simple Diet in August. I must say that since then, my asthma has been back a bit. Honestly, I think it is linked to candida and to being generally more atune and sensitive (and having my allergies more obvious than before). Some of the stuff I eat with the USD is apparently to my candida's liking (fruit, sweet potatoes, carrots, etc.), so... I have to begin the anti-candida diet and will probably do so in the upcoming weeks.

Approaching Infinity said:
Thanks MT, I'm going to try this as well!

You're welcome A.I.! :)
 
beetlemaniac said:
I have been doing EE off and on for the past few months and as is evident from this thread,
there were many strange and amazing experiences that I would never have thought would
originate from just changing my breathing patterns.

It's good that you are enjoying Eiriu Eolas.

beetlemaniac said:
One particular experience that has happened twice is very powerful vibrations surrounding
the body, as many have also reported here. The thing is, when these vibrations come, I tend
to feel that I should be taking in more air by breathing IN and out through the mouth, basically
gasping for air. This is because it really intensifies the vibrations, to the point where it my body's
posture is sort of "contorted" by the vibrations. I'm not sure if it's healthy to veer away from
the normal breathing pattern of in through the nose and out through the mouth. Has anyone
tried doing it this way?

First of all, you want to be relaxed throughout the program. And you should not be gasping for air. It seems to me that you are going for a "weird experience" rather than for healing you mind, body and emotions. There is a reason for breathing in through the nose and out through the mouth. Your nose has little nerve endings in it and by breathing in through the nose only you are constantly stroking those nerve endings in the same direction repeatedly - without breathing out through the nose - which helps to put you into a deeper meditative state.

Gasping for air by breathing in and out through the mouth, and contorting your body are undesirable. At least not to my knowledge. The Eiriu Eolas program is meant to be a gentle, stress-reducing, rejuvenating program that helps us to get rid of the toxicity of stress and repressed emotions.
 
Approaching Infinity said:
Mrs.Tigersoap said:
Just a quick update: I notice that I get sometimes so used to the counting, the breathing, etc. that I do it automatically and start thinking about other stuff. I force myself to come back to the counting, but it's not easy. So yesterday I tried to count for a longer time for once. I just followed my breathing and if I felt I could breathe in more, I would count until I was really full and then I would let go very very slowly and in a very controlled manner. I did that for a while and my average count was 9 (breathe in) and 15 (breathe out) instead of 6 and 9! I'm amazed because I used to be asthmatic and basically had no lung capacity to begin with. Also, my mind was so focused on the prolonged counting and careful release to see how far I would go that I did not once thought of something else!
I think all I needed was a bit of a challenge to get out of my rut. It was a welcome change.

FWIW

Thanks MT, I'm going to try this as well! I, too, have found that now that the counting has become habitual, my mind wanders to other thoughts. I find myself thinking about work, how I'm going to solve this or that problem, etc. It's been very tricky lately!

Counting leaves me very often too, especially with the POTS, when it began to come to mind automatically. Recently my mind wanders a lot as I'm going to do anything that is relaxing).

Sometimes I've tried Tigersoap's approach, by 'going with the flow' of my own breathing. Had to do that by counting more than the standard 6-9 or either counting at a much slower pace, sometimes just taking longer breaths, sometimes counting by following my heart-beats (this one I've inherited from earlier practice with breathings).

On other occasions it works by keeping up the counts by 2's or 4's, like following the tempo when I was playing guitar. But it doesn't work so often, as I tend to loose the counting as I'm relaxing more and more. I have to practice at bed time due to my job schedule, and whoa, falling asleep is so easy then :)
 
Quick update . Again After taking it easy of every thing I am doing and things are much calm. I increased 5-HTP levels much beyond usual 300mg and doing POTS before sleep consistently. I feel much better in mood, optimistic . Holidays also helped to slow down and to recharge. But, to day I woke up with emotional pain and intense thought loops and feeling guilt & shame from the resurfaced attacks. I just did entire EE program including ba haa while doing sauna. at the early stage of ba haa, I zoned out to wake up later to find out that entire emotional pain disappeared. Later emotional pain of "behind the schedule" came back, reshashing some narcissistic stuff helped to calm down.
 
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