Experiment with the spirit board -lies coming through it & how to recognize them

[anart]

All I can say at this point is that I'm horrified at the self-involvement and hubris displayed here. Are you both truly so self-impressed that you think it a good idea to publish your stupidity for others? Do you honestly think you're that important? It's absolutely bizarre.

 

[realitybugll]

And you don't think that Sasa, Ljubica and Zo are "focused on coming destruction and ideas like relocation"?

right, I think they are focused/concerned on this sort of the thing. the when/where is it going to happen sort of thoughts.

And yet you say "I can't say I blame Ljubica, Saša, or Zo for it"?

When I say I can't blame them, I am justing saying I would probably be the same way if I attempted to channel

Can you imagine where they might have gotten those ideas from? Reading this forum perhaps?

they probably got ideas concerning the end of the world from the Forum. This is where I got them from. But the reactionary thoughts of when/where is it going to happen is natural for most people.

 

[Joe]

This is certainly not the material that deserves translation into Croatian. Even the way how you presented it smacks of self-importance. Even the choice to present this topic here on public forum reads like some weird form of masochistic exhibitionism.

To be fair, they were asked to bring it to the forum, unless you mean the way they presented it here. In which case, I agree.

 

[anart]

Just for clarity, my comments refer to the posting on the matrix site. Fwiw.

This is certainly not the material that deserves translation into Croatian. Even the way how you presented it smacks of self-importance. Even the choice to present this topic here on public forum reads like some weird form of masochistic exhibitionism.

To be fair, they were asked to bring it to the forum, unless you mean the way they presented it here. In which case, I agree.

 

[knowledge_of_self]

Wow, this is shocking to say the least.

Sasa, I'm also curious to know what compelled you to take up this experiment. Have you read all of Laura's works like the Wave and Adventure series that talks about the channeling process? Watch the knowledge & being video or read on the forum on the topic like these threads

http://cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php/topic,20506.0.html
http://cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php?topic=6439.0

before you decided to experiment on your own? If you have read the material, it's very shocking that your conclusion would be to take up this very dangerous experiment on your own with no networking. And if you haven't, that's even more shocking, because you've basically gone to uncharted territory without a map or knowledge base.

 

[mkrnhr]

this very dangerous experiment on your own with no networking.

This is indeed an important point.

When i hear about these kind of "wild" experiments, i always recall the story of the young student of Wicca who experimented something with a mirror and had lots of trouble to say the least (The wave 4 if i remember well, i have to verify).

What disturbs me personally in reading the transcripts, other than the feeding activity towards some expectations (and the "fait accompli" of the whole), is the incapacity to see that things are going wrong and that the experiment had to be stopped before any further damage. That surely says something.

 

[seek10]

Wow, this is shocking to say the least.

Sasa, I'm also curious to know what compelled you to take up this experiment. Have you read all of Laura's works like the Wave and Adventure series that talks about the channeling process? Watch the knowledge & being video or read on the forum on the topic like these threads

http://cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php/topic,20506.0.html
http://cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php?topic=6439.0

before you decided to experiment on your own? If you have read the material, it's very shocking that your conclusion would be to take up this very dangerous experiment on your own with no networking. And if you haven't, that's even more shocking, because you've basically gone to uncharted territory without a map or knowledge base.

It is shocking to read these transcripts. If some one asks himself and write it down the answers and read later it will be like this. It's all dates , comet bombardments and infinity symbols, self patting, wonderful ego hooks. Laura's word of mental/emotional masturbation is a perfect one. sounded like instant gratification to appease the lack of self worth. you justified it further with the FB posting and you still believe that you are in right mind. Laura's warning of 'churned energies coming back to bite' is some thing that should be kept in mind at all time, not to get scared , but as a caution.

 

[François]

Interesting information on chaneling, I read that with great interest, indeed..

 

[EGVG]

this very dangerous experiment on your own with no networking.

This is indeed an important point.

When i hear about these kind of "wild" experiments, i always recall the story of the young student of Wicca who experimented something with a mirror and had lots of trouble to say the least (The wave 4 if i remember well, i have to verify).

What disturbs me personally in reading the transcripts, other than the feeding activity towards some expectations (and the "fait accompli" of the whole), is the incapacity to see that things are going wrong and that the experiment had to be stopped before any further damage. That surely says something.

I agree, I think you guys could have done a better experiment with the support and advice that is available here, the forum is to NETWORK! ;)

Also, I agree with what Deedlet says, it's dangerous, just as a personal experience, I started to read "Hostage to the devil" and briefly post it about it here in the forum. I quickly got a respond from Laura suggesting me not to read it, as I had not enough knowledge to navegate successfully through that book. I think the same principle applies here, it's like going to the jungle without a guide, a map, or a machete. Not a good idea right?

 

[Nawd]

I did indeed try to read the whole of these 'transcripts' but found myself experiencing none of the same *feeling* as I do with the C's and those very intense - and to me, very specific non leading questions. There is a direct difference. I guess I would call it years of reading this material.

It is also called experience. You can tell if of an avid mind, that Laura's transcripts are because she asked, and she did the self work to be a receiver. It's so obvious that it's like mirrors on a mirror which is on a mirror. First you do self work (which could take 40 plus years!) Then as with a 'cleaner' mind, you can start an experiment based on the fact that you have worked out your self delusions. I'm still working on that, in my 33 years of life - I'd never dream of trying something like this. I'm not ready! I'd rather look towards someone I've studied, and those recommended. In fact this world of receiving seems stock full of nasty freakish entities I'd rather not met. (Even though as a 'long ago practicing physic for years, I met many of ......I can only describe as awful things.)

What freaks me out is one could very well do 'channeling' without the Self Work, and use the memory of things read on the forum for specific reasons, as a 'means to an end.' Then create a true to life crap field of misinformation using the same words, meanings and objectives as this forum.

Then draw the 'gentle people' who are looking for this Work, and use it to their own ego/self centered needs.

For some reason it reminds me that the fight is through us.

Hope I wasn't too melodramatic, but I found this very disturbing.

 

[Approaching Infinity]

this very dangerous experiment on your own with no networking.

This is indeed an important point.

When i hear about these kind of "wild" experiments, i always recall the story of the young student of Wicca who experimented something with a mirror and had lots of trouble to say the least (The wave 4 if i remember well, i have to verify).

It's in Wave 2, this chapter: http://cassiopaea.org/2010/05/12/the-wave-chapter-16-all-there-is-is-lessons-or-laura-finds-reiki-and-ends-up-in-the-soup-pea-soup-that-is/

 

[Voyageur]

It is also called experience. You can tell if of an avid mind, that Laura's transcripts are because she asked, and she did the self work to be a receiver. It's so obvious that it's like mirrors on a mirror which is on a mirror. First you do self work (which could take 40 plus years!) Then as with a 'cleaner' mind, you can start an experiment based on the fact that you have worked out your self delusions. I'm still working on that, in my 33 years of life - I'd never dream of trying something like this. I'm not ready! I'd rather look towards someone I've studied, and those recommended. In fact this world of receiving seems stock full of nasty freakish entities I'd rather not met. (Even though as a 'long ago practicing physic for years, I met many of ......I can only describe as awful things.)

What freaks me out is one could very well do 'channeling' without the Self Work, and use the memory of things read on the forum for specific reasons, as a 'means to an end.' Then create a true to life crap field of misinformation using the same words, meanings and objectives as this forum.

Then draw the 'gentle people' who are looking for this Work, and use it to their own ego/self centered needs.

For some reason it reminds me that the fight is through us.

Hope I wasn't too melodramatic, but I found this very disturbing.

“Disturbing”, as did I.

I can say that if ever thinking about attempting to communicate, especially without a network as Deedlet said, this would have lasted for a fraction of a second, having understood the incredible follies of delving into realms we know nothing about, having never been trained or built experience with critical discerning properties. The history of our world is littered with the fallout of persons who entertained these risks, never really appreciating the magnitude of things unseen.

 

[vinny]

I'm shocked. Do you not realise the extreme dangers of what you've dabbled with? This is not a subject to be toyed with lightly. I think a serious re-reading of Laura's introductory material is in order, where she describes a lengthy history of intensive work, leading to a very rigorous and deeply subtle understanding of a wide range of concepts (far surpassing what most people are ever capable of) which was an absolute prerequisite to the Cassiopaean experiment.

I think you should have paid more attention to this early warning, the only tiny shred of sense that somehow came through:

TQ: Who is with us?
A: Stop

[Discussion about stopping for the night.]

 

[Z...]

even more disturbing is behavior of sasha and ljubica on the face book, here are some of the comments:

M.K.: Crazies! I love you! Thats what I call learning
D.B.: Kudos for this experiment. I am so glad you didi this, it is a step forward in your learning. I regret I was not there, although I wouldnt know what to ask.
Z.J: @D - I hope your read forum discussion. This really hurts.
@M. this is not called learning - its called stupidity. " A fool learns from his own mistakes, A wise man learns from the mistakes of others"
VICKY O'HARA( likely psychic woman from Belgrade): Kudos for courage, only the ones who really want to know the truth admit their mistake. Its human to make mistakes. Bravo for sharing your mistake with all of us, that is courage and you have my admiration
SASHA: @Z - The saying goes slightly different - you can check with Laura on the forum: "A smart man learns from his mistakes, a genius learns from the mistakes of others."
Vicky O'Hara: Smart man learns from the mistakes of others, how many smart people will learn many things from this, I support this, thank you, big kiss.

It looks like Sasha and Ljubica have got their audience and this is all they care for. Very, very sad.
Now its clear everything they said here is nothing but lies. But I am not surprised, as John Keel reiterates in most of his books, hyper-dimensional entities always lie, they are tricksters and manipulators. And it looks like some of these entities took over, I am very worried about the outcome of this.
Perhaps Sasha and Ljubica will start their own school with psychic woman from Belgrade as their guru ( by the way this is the same woman that few years ago predicted humongous earthquake will shatter all Montenegrin coast and the earth is about to explode
http://www.revijad.co.me/index.php?nivo=3&rubrika=4&datum=2010-03-17&brojms=403&clanak=1317.) Time will tell.

 

[Laura]

Can you imagine where they might have gotten those ideas from? Reading this forum perhaps?

they probably got ideas concerning the end of the world from the Forum. This is where I got them from. But the reactionary thoughts of when/where is it going to happen is natural for most people.

Such "end of the world" ideas are actually NOT what we consider good research/observation and if that is what you have gotten out of our work, then I'm quite dismayed.