Failed Trump Assassination Attempt
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Yeah the floor of the room would be below the grass line there. We know that because this guy's head is barely in the frame of the last window, and the bottom of those window frames is at about 3-4 feet on the outside:
Unless he's a midget!
Ruth
The Living Force
Maybe what didn't go quite as planned was the turning of Trumps head at the worst possible time for the sniper/shooter who was meant to kill him with the first shot? That must have rattled him.
The first 3 shots seem to be from a different gun from the next 5, although they think they might be from around the same location. The 9th shot, they are saying was shot by counter sniper/law inforcement and then the 10th, perhaps the only round fired by the secret service?
I feel Crooks definitely shot at Trump, afterall, with so many people recording footage at the event, your designated patsy has to actually shoot, unlike the JFK assassination where they could claim someone shot, but they didn't actually have to do the deed, or perhaps like the Las Vegas shooting where your patsy has to handle the gun, but doesn't need to do any shooting.
How sad for Crook's family (and indeed Crooks) that he was used as a patsy. And yes, really strange how he got set up. A reasonably intelligent person SHOULD realise that being allowed access to the roof with a weapon at a political event with law inforcement counter snipers and secret service will not end well for them.
Couple new Peak Prosperity videos, one an interview with Paramount Tactical, and another which analyzes the Copenhaver video and provides a few possible paths Crooks might have taken:
I would vote for 3rd window on that building. Surely something going on there. Either triangulation or actual shooting itself. I vote for 2nd option though I believe video modified to discombobulate the timing and frames. Any way, this hypothesis is the only smoking gun we have. This raises few questions.
About the possibility of Fence blocking it or make it difficult: Made some rough calculations, I think it doesn't block it.
Here is the drone footage.
3rd window path ( Red lines and text are mine)
simple calculation: some reasonable assumptions
1. distance from the 3rd window to nearest fence Along the path of bullet from 3rd window : 20 ft. But if you see drone footage picture, it could easily be more.
2. Fence height is 5 ft : this is true from the video's and it is common height in US for this type of fence.
3. Shooter is 5ft from the ground. - reasonable. Even if the ground of the room is lower, they can easily increase the height for the sake of Biden and democracy
In my view it is a mute point.4. Trump's podium 4ft ( approx.) and Trump is 6.2 ft. Effectively he is 10ft from the ground.
5. 130 ft between 3rd window and trump head.
simple pen and paper straight line calculation : It goes above the fence by few feet.
I know people wants to go with exact calculation. But we need to remember distance between fence to 3rd window increase or height of the shooter gun position will create more safe distance between bullet path and top of the fence.
It looks stupid to shoot from there as people are hanging there. True. But something conspired against conspirators.
- We wouldn't have suspected it if there were no lights in the room. Even if there were lights, Camera wouldn't have recorded it if there is NO horse riding woman with Trump flag passed in front of the window grabbing every body's attention. Probably people complaining about the roof top shooter might have hurried the operation.
If some body going to put a patsy on the top of the building only to be get caught, it is natural for the people to see on the top. so logical choice is to put the real shooter below.
I know this is no way proof. If some body has real proof, they would have got some visit from some body, even if it is not from under grounder.
I know I am biased towards 3rd window shooter due to the frames I posted before. Why did they even release the video. It is easy to deny the video as the timing is not matching.
Atleast that is how looks to me at this point.
I am not sure why anyone would construct the inside floor below ground level. Therefore, how could the floor be lower than the grass line as there does not seem to be any elevation discrepancies where the building is located?
WhiteMountain
Jedi
Bongino did not give that picture. The person who made the video found it, but it matched what Bongino said about the shot that actually killed crooks - 400 yards away (which this appears to be in that ballpark) and that is was not the snipers everyone had photos of behind Trump (who were also about 150 yards away). I am not sure where he got the photos, probably found from social media as people have been sharing all kinds of stuff.
The other interesting thing is Tore Maras has two eyewitnesses at the event that saw a camerman, now identified as Art Vizthum from video from the eyewitnesses at the event, who brandished a small handgun at Trump. One of her witnesses saw agents shoot and kill him right after and the other saw him disappear but that he never came back for his camera equipment. She put out some video here partially showing that Saw Something? Say Something #notjustasniper, and I can sort of make out his face in the crowd, but everything is too grainy to really be able to be conclusive about anything. She also says that she has one piece of video that makes it clear, but she is not sharing it yet; but that could be her bluffing trying to get more people to send her video from the event. She did used to work with US intelligence so...that is the sort of thing I could see her doing. She did say both of her eyewitnesses were visited by people from the FBI pretending to be CIA threatening them not to say anything, and one had their video wiped remotely after it was sent to Tore - so apparently the FBI is more busy covering crap up than trying to get the truth out. What a shock! But if they did shoot a guy who was a cameraman, who took a shot at TRump and hit his vest harmlessly because it was a small caliber, and they are not saying anything, that all but proves they are in on it since why lie so badly if you have nothing to hide? Tore thinks the very last shot is the one that hit the press reporter; however i think that is the longer shot that took out Crooks (or purported to if he was killed before the first shot as some are speculating). The last shot in the second group (the "3rd shooter" identified in the Martenson video) I think is probably most likely the one that would have been close by, with the third to last in that group being the shot.
Yeah, the fact that they kept his bike and he had to walk home *maybe* suggests he was just a normal guy, however, it could also be that it was local police that kept his bike and interviewed him etc. because they naturally would not have known that he was part of the 'team' (if he was). Would be interesting to know if he got the same extensive FBI/black suit treatment as Dave and if the FBI took his phone (as they did with Dave). FBI would likely know who was who in all of this and would have given 'secret team' members a pass pretty quick.
Assuming that video of him running along the roof is him running on the building behind the one he shot from, it doesn't really make sense that he climbed the ladder. I wonder if he was actually let into the building by someone and then out that gable end window.
Which would give a pathway more like this (blue lines).
I don't think the floor of the building is below ground level at the site of the building, it's that the building location is in a depression compared to that area of grass towards the fence. Basically, the floor of the building is lower than the grassy area in front of it.
