Failed Trump Assassination Attempt

Despite everything, it's pretty remarkable to watch Trump arrive at the RNC. I mean, it's not often (if ever) you get to see, alive and well, a person who had just been slated for death by the most powerful forces on this planet.

There's a stark contrast between the all the red white and blue flags and pomp, and love of freedom and promotion of the awesomeness of American democracy, and the reality of what just happened.

I wonder how many people at that conference are aware of the reality behind the facade?

Also, notice the absence of any DEI hires among the security detail.

Also, notice in that front line with Trump there are only 5 other people, Trump's VP, the Republican speaker of the house, his wife, Byron Donalds - a Trump supporting congressman from Florida (who I assume was there for diversity reasons) - and....Tucker Carlson. Kind of sending a message. Even Trump's sons are in the 2nd row.

Also love the new music. The lyrics specially chosen - and got me quite emotional.

Also note the security don't look like the clones out of the Matrix lol. They look more human. Of course it would be ridiculous to wear their stereotype sunglasses inside anyway lol

Yes are far more serious and subdued occasion.
 
There's a stark contrast between the all the red white and blue flags and pomp, and love of freedom and promotion of the awesomeness of American democracy, and the reality of what just happened.

I wonder how many people at that conference are aware of the reality behind the facade?

A twighlight zone between worlds, for sure. Trump also seems changed, calmer and more serene. Must have shaken him quite a bit.
 
I wonder what effect the attempted assassination has had, and will have, on Trump the man rather than Trump the political phenomenon. Most seem to be going with the idea that it has galvanized him to root out corruption in high places and "drain the swamp", as it appears to have done for his supporters.

I'm not so sure.

Straight up assassination is one way to send a clear message to a person. But short of that, deaths threats work well to get the message across. While 'they' did not manage to kill Trump, he still, by default, received a clear and pernicious death threat.

A very close and violent brush with your own mortality, or a serious death threat, can have different effects on different people, but generally it tends to make a person take stock of their lives and reassess what is really valuable in life, like family etc. especially if they are in the later stages of life, as Trump is. It also, obviously, makes a person reconsider the path they were on that lead to the threatened or actual attempt on their life.

So maybe we should expect a more muted, thoughtful Trump from now on, and in his potential 2nd term?

Or maybe he'll just be more Trumpy than ever. :wizard:
 
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A very close and violent brush with your own mortality, or a serious death threat, can have different effects on different people, but generally it tends to make a person take stock of their lives and reassess what is really valuable in life, like family etc. especially if they are in the later stages of life, as Trump is. It also, obviously, makes a person reconsider the path they were on that lead to the threatened or actual attempt on their life.
This was my read on the video. It felt to me like he was considering if all this was worth while. Maybe I was misreading his emotions, or maybe he's in pain, but that was my read.
 
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I wonder what effect the attempted assassination has had, and will have, on Trump the man rather than Trump the political phenomenon. Most seem to be going with the idea that it has galvanized him to root out corruption in high places and "drain the swamp", as it appears to have done for his supporters.

I'm not so sure.

Straight up assassination is one way to send a clear message to a person. But short of that, deaths threats work well to get the message across. While 'they' did not manage to kill Trump, he still, by default, received a clear and pernicious death threat.

A very close and violent brush with your own mortality, or a serious death threat, can have different effects on different people, but generally it tends to make a person take stock of their lives and reassess what is really valuable in life, like family etc. especially if they are in the later stages of life, as Trump is.

So maybe we should be expected a more muted, thoughtful Trump from now on, and in his potential 2nd term?

Or maybe he'll just be more Trumpy than ever. :wizard:
I'm betting on him becoming more Trumpy than ever.

At least the last 4 years of smearing, hating and the destructive campaign against Trump by the PTB and its minions that lead eventually to the assassination attempt a few days ago have changed Trump, the man, me thinks.

He's made of stern stuff otherwise he wouldn't persisted with his decision to participate again at the presidential elections considering all that it has been thrown at him all these years.

It will be interesting to observe him from now on.
 
Weird.

“Cops were inside, but not on the roof during the shooting, sources said.Crooks was able to scale the building unchallenged before firing off eight shots with an AR-style assault rifle, grazing Trump in the ear, killing one Trump supporter and wounding two others.” - NYP

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At this point it looks likely there was another shooter, possibly inside the building, and they did the old Kennedy routine: mind-controlled patsy, professional team actually shooting. Like, "let's do the Kennedy thing, but since there was all that jazz about the magic bullet, let's make sure we shoot from the same angle as the patsy"...
 
Here’s the black rock ad with the shooter in it:

Also how did he get on top of a building full of cops and counter-snipers? Why weren’t any of those snipers on the roof? Isn’t this like doing a shooting on top of a cop car with the cops inside eating doughnuts?

With people outside yelling about a guy on the roof on top of that. I’m not computing how this isn’t a comedy sketch.
 
At this point it looks likely there was another shooter, possibly inside the building, and they did the old Kennedy routine: mind-controlled patsy, professional team actually shooting. Like, "let's do the Kennedy thing, but since there was all that jazz about the magic bullet, let's make sure we shoot from the same angle as the patsy"...
Yeah, reminds me of 2017 Las Vegas Shooting. Same old methods of chaos...
(Joe) Was there more than one shooter?
A: Yes

Q: (Joe) Oh, well that leads to another question! [laughter] How many?
A: 3

Q: (Joe) How many were in the hotel room?
A: 2

Q: (Joe) Did Paddock do any shooting, or was he dead already?
A: Dead


Q: (Joe) There was a security guard who came up to the floor. Is that security guard, Jesus Campos, a legitimate security guard?
A: He is and is not

Q: (L) In other words, he was hired as a security guard, although he wasn't licensed?
A: Yes

Q: (Joe) But was he one of the conspirators?
A: No

Q: (Joe) Okay, so he's a useful idiot in a certain sense. And the drilling sound that he allegedly heard in the room, was that these shooters inside the room drilling in order to escape unseen?
A: Yes.

Q: (Artemis) Why do they sometimes write "Yes." and sometimes just move to "Yes" on the board?
(L) I dunno. Maybe it’s emphasis.
(Joe) What's the location of the third shooter? There were two in the room and one more shooter. Where was he, roughly?
A: Triangulated.


Q: (Joe) Okay.
(Niall) The other casinos on the strip...

(Joe) How many people were involved in this operation in total in terms of spotters and...?
A: 27


Q: (Niall) Did some of these other people shoot outside or at other casinos that had active shooters?
A: Yes

Q: (Niall) So that's a lot of people...
(L) There could have even been people in the crowd shooting.
(Joe) Well, no, they said there were three shooters. Well... Was the third triangulated shooter on the ground in the crowd, or was he further back?
A: Further back but on ground.

Q: (Joe) And of course the FBI and all these people are well aware of all of this, and they're just covering it up, right?
A: Yes


Q: (Joe) That FBI dude is such a creep.
(Pierre) And the third shooter was 270 yards from the crowd?
A: No

Q: (Pierre) Ah... How far?
A: 80


Q: (Pierre) 80 yards. Wow...
(Niall) Fuel tank, right?
(Joe) We can triangulate it.
(Pierre) There was an acoustic analysis that said 270.
(L) The guy on the ground could have been using a silencer, too. Alright, now you guys have gone over your one question.
(Joe) Well, they keep answering... [laughter] So there were two shooters in the room. Was one of the guns up in the room a heavier caliber gun as we have surmised?
A: Yes


Q: (Joe) Alright. That's all. Done.
(L) Is that it? Any more questions on OTHER TOPICS?
(Joe) Why did they do it? Is this just one more, "Remind the people why they need us"?
A: Chaos.

Q: (Joe) They kinda seem to have left a lot of things... loose threads here. Is this...?
A: Chaos affects them too!

Q: (Joe) Psychos gone wild.
(Niall) Yeah. Is the death toll as officially reported accurate?
(L) What is the death toll?
(Niall) 59 plus 500+ wounded.
(Joe) 58 dead.
A: Almost.

Q: (L) So there might be one or two others that they're not talking about.
A: Yes

Q: (Joe) The Paddock guy, the patsy, he was alive when he came into the hotel. He was shot on the day of the shooting in the hotel?
A: Yes

Q: (Joe) And he just had a "mind job" done on him by agents of the...?
A: Yes
 
A twighlight zone between worlds, for sure. Trump also seems changed, calmer and more serene. Must have shaken him quite a bit.

I wonder what effect the attempted assassination has had, and will have, on Trump the man rather than Trump the political phenomenon. Most seem to be going with the idea that it has galvanized him to root out corruption in high places and "drain the swamp", as it appears to have done for his supporters.

I'm not so sure.

Straight up assassination is one way to send a clear message to a person. But short of that, deaths threats work well to get the message across. While 'they' did not manage to kill Trump, he still, by default, received a clear and pernicious death threat.

A very close and violent brush with your own mortality, or a serious death threat, can have different effects on different people, but generally it tends to make a person take stock of their lives and reassess what is really valuable in life, like family etc. especially if they are in the later stages of life, as Trump is. It also, obviously, makes a person reconsider the path they were on that lead to the threatened or actual attempt on their life.

So maybe we should be expected a more muted, thoughtful Trump from now on, and in his potential 2nd term?

Or maybe he'll just be more Trumpy than ever. :wizard:

There is no doubt in my mind that the assassination attempt had a profound effect on Trump as a human being. How couldn’t it? You can see it in his first written statements after the event and while walking into the RNC yesterday. I think how this will affect him in the long run is subject to chance and not set in stone.

No matter how it turns out, something as shocking as that needs quite some time to process, before he can really get his bearings back. As for what he will likely do and how he will behave from now on: something like you are suggesting above could happen, but I also think that Trump is probably a soul with a greater mission, and generally speaking, a fighting character. So, I think what happened could also make him much more determined to do as much as he can for america and the world, no matter what. He could also say to himself “I’m old already and will die anyway rather soon. What do I have to loose? Little. I’m all in.“ Basically sacrificing himself for a greater cause.

The well being of his close family and friends might be a significant deciding factor though and I think it is likely that he will discuss it with them and that they all will decide to take on the burden with him, no matter the outcome. Meaning, a family pact that says that they are all on board in knowing what might be happening to them, but doing it nonetheless, for the greater good. I bet on some kind of Szenario like that, rather then Trump caving in. Having said that, I think Trump is the kind of man that would decide in favor of his family/friends and back down IF they don’t want to live that risk. We will see.

At this point it looks likely there was another shooter, possibly inside the building, and they did the old Kennedy routine: mind-controlled patsy, professional team actually shooting. Like, "let's do the Kennedy thing, but since there was all that jazz about the magic bullet, let's make sure we shoot from the same angle as the patsy"...

Yes, my bet as well.
 
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I'm going with the assumption that it is true that there was a sniper on the water tower who was taken out after his job. I think it is likely that that happened. So, my speculation goes as follows:

- Similar to the (presumably amateurish) patsy rooftop shooter, the sniper professional on the water tower was meant to be taken out right after the event as part of the plan, from the get-go. His job (decided by the master minds) was either to shoot after the hidden professional sniper made his first shot/-s, in case he missed, as a security guarantee that Trump really dies, and/or to have him there as a distraction and smoke screen from the hidden professional sniper located near the angle of the rooftop shooter, probably within the same building. That hidden sniper within the building (or near that angle) wasn't necessarily meant to be taken out after the event, but to escape unnoticed. The reason I think that the sniper on the water tower was meant to be taken out directly after the event from the get-go, is the location where he was positioned. While the water tower is certainly a very good spot to shoot at Trump, it is a very bad place to escape from unnoticed after the event. They must have known that. That isn't difficult to figure out.

- I think what we have now is the likelihood that there were at least two professional snipers at work and one patsy on the roof. The patsy and the water tower sniper were meant to be taken out right afterward, no matter the outcome. Which happened. Additionally, there might have been at least one additional professional sniper somewhere else, like in the woods, who might have escaped unnoticed too.
 

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