French presidential elections.

[luc]

Well, me too I don't think that much will change.

If we look at the social-democratic rule in Germany from 1998-2005 (Gee, everyone was so happy that Helmut Kohl finally got kicked out!!), they mainly accomplished two things:

- destruction of the welfare state, thus generating fear and despair and a falling apart of society
- convincing the left that humanitarian wars are good

So, my bet is that Hollande will make a deal regarding the retirement age where the devil is in the details and the corporate elite will ultimately get exactly what it wants while appeasing the left, that even if he withdraws troops from Afghanistan that he will be ready to fully support other "interventions" (play a key role in Syria?) and that he will be used to implement more draconian laws and policies under the pretext of a twisted form of "égalité"...

Still good that Sarko is out though...

 

[David Topi]

If we still assume that both are just puppets of a higher level power, what I imagine it is just that in order to implement new rules, changes and restrictions, keep everyone under control, without the people revolting "too much", the way to do it is putting a new face in power, with a softer and calmer image than Sarko, so the masses will not fire at him as much as they would do if Sarko would have "won".


My personal opinion is that Hollande has been prepared to be the next president since years ago. When Royal lost and they broke up, it was just too "good" that a new partner, with the right skills, knowledge and contacts came into his life (his current girlfriend, an "agent" inserted in his life?). She made everything to put him into the race, althought they were always behind DSK.


They admitted that a new look was needed in order to create a better candidate, and even a new "personality" (that was said in the news I promise, call me "suspicious" ) had to be created.


He has worked behind the scenes, because DSM was supposed to be the next president defeating Sarko. Then, oh surprise, DSK is charged with lots of stuff and he has the route clear to be the candidate of the PS.


I'll probably be wrong, and he may be a good souled person trying to fix a difficult situation, but all that crossed my mind yesterday, the more info about Hollande was being said in the news, the more I was conecting ideas in that sense. Guess I do not trust anyone in power to be a "good person" anymore!

 

[realitybugll]

I hope your taxes in france do not increase! good luck with the new president. but I can say I have no idea really what this means. every news I read said this is a change for France of course. So that is for sure on the "surface"I suppose. both this socialist candidate and the national-front had a strong showing. I wonder if this is an example of ideologies getting more extreme as people get tired of economic suffering. But I guess "extreme" is subjective, and the only way I can really mean that is by 'different to the previous ideology'.

Politics should get really interesting across Europe as the situation worsens. france is only the beginning. but really it will be interesting to see what happens in the following months...

 

[Pierre]

I seriously doubt the result! Hollande probably won by far more, but the lovely voting machines made it look less humiliating for Sharko, who wouldn't have been able to stand it.

I'm pretty sure that's the case too. The right-wing folks did everything they could to tweak the results, but after all, the french people aren't THAT dumb. That's a small good news, but a good news nevertheless.

I'm wondering. Maybe the plan of the PTB was to get Hollande elected. Like they got Obama elected. Those kinds of politicians are more diplomatic, smarter, less antipathetic than Sarkozy or Bush. So they are more likely to conduct the destruction of the nations without triggering too much reactions amongst the people.

Hollande has made some exciting statements (fighting the international finance, raising taxes for very rich people, lowering retirement age...) either it's just empty premises or he will try to implement them and quickly realize that he's not allowed to.

I wonder how long before Carla Bruni will divorce the self-absorbed devilish gnome? :P

For divorce I don't know but I would not be surprised to learn she's been regularly cheating on him. Bruni has a heavy history of clandestine liaisons and illegitimate lovers.

For example when she was with the zionist editor Jean-Paul Enthoven, she cheated on him with his son! Raphaël Enthoven, husband of Justine Lévy (daughter of Bernard Henri Levy first wedding)

Sionism, power, promiscuity... an interesting mix.

 

[Z...]

I wonder how long before Carla Bruni will divorce the self-absorbed devilish gnome? :P

I thought this was hilarious

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Carla-Bruni-just-went-from-married-to-its-complicated/107575479380064

 

[SeekinTruth]

I'm wondering. Maybe the plan of the PTB was to get Hollande elected. Like they got Obama elected. Those kinds of politicians are more diplomatic, smarter, less antipathetic than Sarkozy or Bush. So they are more likely to conduct the destruction of the nations without triggering too much reactions amongst the people.

That's the impression I have, as well. They're betting on people relaxing and becoming more apathetic so they continue with their destructive agendas. But they CAN make some miscalculations, who knows. If a "revolution" of consciousness happens -- i.e. non-violent -- there's always a chance to stop the PTB in their tracks if enough people share the awareness. We'll have to wait and see....

 

[Nienna]

If we still assume that both are just puppets of a higher level power, what I imagine it is just that in order to implement new rules, changes and restrictions, keep everyone under control, without the people revolting "too much", the way to do it is putting a new face in power, with a softer and calmer image than Sarko, so the masses will not fire at him as much as they would do if Sarko would have "won".

This is what I was thinking, too.

When Obama won in the US, I figured that Bush's mask was too torn to work anymore so they needed someone with a new, fresh mask to calm the people down. He made all of the right promises to bring "hope" to the US citizens. Then, he did what was wanted of him, not wanted by the people, but by his handlers.

I see the same thing going on with Hollande. Hope I'm wrong, but it is a one world government according to the Cs and what we, ourselves, can see. So he can promise everything, it's whether he is allowed to fulfill those promises that will be interesting.

 

[bngenoh]

Woohoo! May a thousand corruption inquiries descend upon his political carcass and feast mirthfully!

I seriously doubt the result! Hollande probably won by far more, but the lovely voting machines made it look less humiliating for Sharko,who wouldn't have been able to stand it.

Let's wait and see, I guess. For now, at the possibility of the garden dwarf starting to pay for his crimes and ending up in a really bad light!

Man, you folks are HILARIOUS.

 

[Samuel]

I'm keeping my fingers crossed, but not holding my breath.

What is known about Hollande, his cronies, history?

I'm not holding my breath, either. Somewhere down the line he could show another face, take off the mask of sanity........like Obama.

 

[pstott]

Presumable anyone who "thought that they were in charge" like JFK, might suffer a similar removal...

Nevertheless it seems that current elections in Europe are selecting candidates who do not toe the current "austerity" line being promoted by the powers that be.

Lets see if any of them have the spine to stand up for what they promise, or if they are just more "Obamas" - puppets doing as they are told.

 

[Tomek]

I seriously don't see François Hollande, nicknamed "Flamby" down here, revealing himself as a french JFK, fighting for Truth. He's just a nice and obedient pencil pusher. Like everyone said, the PTB choose him for this job, even if the Sarkozy gang wasn't too pleased about that and tried what they could to remain in business. Even if the C's said that this is already a world government, I don't imagine this government as one united happy family.

 

[bngenoh]

I seriously don't see François Hollande, nicknamed "Flamby" down here, revealing himself as a french JFK, fighting for Truth. He's just a nice and obedient pencil pusher. Like everyone said, the PTB choose him for this job, even if the Sarkozy gang wasn't too pleased about that and tried what they could to remain in business. Even if the C's said that this is already a world government, I don't imagine this government as one united happy family.

The only thing that unites them is their hatred and drive to subjugate the earth and its children, and even that common thread, is seriously fractured. As above so below, we look upon predators in the wild and their behaviors towards each other and others. Predators only help each other when their is an abundance of food, when that starts to diminish, they start fighting amongst themselves for what ever is left, but at least the predators in the wild care for and nurture their children, psychopaths do not, they are a dead end, a black hole, osit.

 

[Jeremy F Kreuz]

Don`t hold my breath either. I don`t have the book Ponerology with me but isn`t there a dicsussion in it that at some stage of the ponerization process a more gentle face is needed for the leadership to keep the masses unaware of the process. this could be the case now in France with the removal of Sarkozy and replacing him with Mister hope Hollande, just like in the US with Obama and Bush. Also in Ponerology it is written that beyond a certain point of the ponorization process it has to run its course, no matter what. It seems that both the US and France might already have passed that point. This could be a further explanation why a more gentle face is needed. FWIW.

 

[caballero reyes]

Quote from loreta

There is evidence that people wanted change, are tired to see all this liars and assassins in power. ..

This reminded me a poem of Leon Felipe: ¡QUE PENA! (WHAT A PITY).

A fragment of this poem (the translation is mine):

Who read 10 centuries in History and don´t closet it ?
The same men, the same wars
The same tyrants, the same chains
The same impostors, the same sects.
And the same poets?

¿Quien lee 10 siglos en la Historia y no la cierra?
Los mismos hombres. las mismas guerras
Los mismos tiranos, las mismas cadenas
Los mismos farsantes, las mismas sectas
¿Y los mismos poetas?
¡Que pena,que asi sea todo siempre, siempre de la misma manera!

Leon Felipe:11 april 1884 Tabora, Zamora, Spain/ 17 september 1968, Mexico City.

 

[Esote]

I just hear that Hollande is an "homme de bataille" de gauche, very strong and with very clear ideas. He has experience in politics. Not much. I think it will be better than Sark. But who knows? Socialisme today means nothing. I hear also that the first thing he will do, if he wins, is that to go directly to see the president of Germany, la Madame. Is that good?

Anyway, bon débarras of the assassin of Libya, Mister Sarkozy.

French Socialists (and even the Green Party) were supporting Sarko about Libya !

Anyway, the next elections in June for the French Parliament will decide if Hollande has a majority to allow him to govern...