From Scottie's Tech.info: These Q-Link things actually work?!

goyacobol

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Well, I bought a Q-link after I was given the half-off information and I have had it about a week. I wear it mostly sitting at the computer when I don't forget to put it on. A strange (probably just a coincidence) thing happened when I first got it. My computer screen was getting flashes of pixilation. It was probably just a fluke. I put the Q-link in another room to see if there was any connection and it went away. Of course we have these power outages often and the computer was restarted after that too.

I think I do feel more calm wearing it which is OK even if it is just a placebo effect. I think it is better to be "open" to positive possibilities rather closed minded. :-)
 

Persej

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Just woke up after wearing the Q-Link for the first time, a good night sleep it was! After weeks of sleeping for 8 hours, today I woke up after only 6.5, recharged and with more energy.
That's great news! I wish I can say the same. My sleep was a little better the second night, but I still feel tired today. But the dreams were again interesting. In one of them I had to wash my hair in the bus. Perhaps a symbol for fixing my brain? I haven't had a good sleep for many years, so I guess that I cannot expect improvement overnight. Another interesting thing is that I became more aware of how much chatter is in my mind when I sleep. It is something that I observed before, but I never managed to find a solution for it.
 

lainey

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I've had my Q-Link for 4 days now. This might be a coincidence, but for the first 3 and a bit days I was wearing it I felt worse! It felt like my energy was really "messy" and disharmonious, I was tired, cranky and irritable. The first night I slept badly and my body was doing this weird shaking thing for about 5 mins before I went to sleep.

As the days went on I felt very confused, forgetful and stressed, like you know when there is too much noise and you can't concentrate? When people were talking to me I had to concentrate really hard to listen and not forget what they just said. I didn't recognise one of my clients who I had just spoken to a couple of hours before.

Then, last night I had a horrible dream I had ringworm and that my skin was itchy. By this morning it felt like there were people shouting at me from all directions, but with no noise. Like there was just too much energy bombarding me.

By the time I was halfway through a Reiki treatment with a client this morning I was ready to take the thing off and put it away because I felt like I was inside a giant ball of icky static. Then I had an idea come to me and I turned it round on the necklace and straight away I felt better, my energy settled right down and the noisy atmosphere and anxious feeling went away and now I feel really calm and lovely.

I had been wearing it with the little see-thru window (that you can see the copper through) pointing inwards, and now I'm wearing it with the window pointing outwards and I'm back to my cheerful self thankfully! Like I said, it could be a coincidence and maybe, maybe I was having a bad few days that just ended this morning around the time I turned it round but I thought I'd share my experience anyway.

I'll keep it on and let you know if anything else happens once some more time passes.
 

Persej

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I tried your method, and changed my pendant to face outwards, but I saw no change. I still have a bad sleep. And not only that, after I fall asleep, I quickly wake up with fear that something is wrong. After a few moments, when I realize that there is nothing wrong, I go back to sleep and sleep through the night. These three nights that I am sleeping with this pendant, I always wake up with the same bad feeling after a couple of minutes. But I'm glad I'm not the only one who is feeling worse, so perhaps I will also see an improvement after some time.
 

Gaby

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I remember that someone in the forum reported bad effects from wearing the Q link and decided to write to the Q link people years ago. They responded that in these cases, it helped to wear the Q link just a few hours and then increase the time each day. Kind of like your body getting acclimated gently.
 

Gaby

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Here:

So I emailed the Q-Link people asking about my experience with the pendant. They said my body is very EMF sensitive and that it's having a hard time adjusting to the balancing effects. This happens to 5% of their customers.

They said to take it off for a day and put it back on, wearing it until it is uncomfortable. And then the next day, wearing it for a little while longer. The end goal being to work up to wearing it all the time, or as often as possible I suppose.

The benefits should come when your body is used to it. Although it seems I've noticed better sleep despite few hours, and my pulse seems a little slower (it's usually over 100). They said if no reasonable progress is seen to stop using the product. And that those who need it the most have the hardest time adjusting to it.

I've worn it for about an hour today. And I reversed it on my back instead of chest. I could feel the sensation on my back but less so, and it went to my head after a while too. But it was less bothersome, and eventually it went to my chest. So I will see how this goes with wearing it a little longer each day. FWIW.
 

Gandalf

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I remember that someone in the forum reported bad effects from wearing the Q link and decided to write to the Q link people years ago. They responded that in these cases, it helped to wear the Q link just a few hours and then increase the time each day. Kind of like your body getting acclimated gently.
I've tried two more days wearing the pendant for about 15 minutes and get the same body response.

So I emailed the Q-Link people asking about my experience with the pendant. They said my body is very EMF sensitive and that it's having a hard time adjusting to the balancing effects. This happens to 5% of their customers.

They said to take it off for a day and put it back on, wearing it until it is uncomfortable. And then the next day, wearing it for a little while longer. The end goal being to work up to wearing it all the time, or as often as possible I suppose.

The benefits should come when your body is used to it. Although it seems I've noticed better sleep despite few hours, and my pulse seems a little slower (it's usually over 100). They said if no reasonable progress is seen to stop using the product. And that those who need it the most have the hardest time adjusting to it.
Thanks for asking 3DStudent. I have the same problem and I am going to try the recommandation from the Q-Link people.
 

lainey

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Ah, that makes a lot of sense Gaby, thank you so much for sharing.

A small update, I've found I feel the same 'too intense atmosphere' feeling when I'm sat at my computer. It's like the laptop has a halo of 'bad' energy and the Q-Link makes me aware that it's there.

It's like sitting down in a bubble of electromagnetic energy. Then, when I move away the effect lessens and eventually goes away. Looks like this was a good purchase then if it having such a negative effect means I really needed it. Glad it's helping out some other members too. It'll be interesting to see what happens a month or so down the line.
 

Persej

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I remember that someone in the forum reported bad effects from wearing the Q link and decided to write to the Q link people years ago. They responded that in these cases, it helped to wear the Q link just a few hours and then increase the time each day. Kind of like your body getting acclimated gently.
Thank you for this find Gaby. I certainly need much better sleep, so perhaps I am one of those that will have the hard time adjusting to it. I will take a pause from it, if it becomes too unpleasant.
 

lainey

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For anyone who may want to read some more, here is the most detailed, yet still vague, description of how the Q-Link works.


We live in a world of matter, which we experience as solid, and a world of forces, which act upon these solid things. But quantum physics is clear that what we call solid matter is composed of oscillating matter wave packets, and what we call forces are composed of oscillating energy wave packets. In reality, everything is composed of oscillating wave packets of one type or another.
Scientists have long puzzled over force field phenomena that do not fit the four known forces: electromagnetic, gravity, weak and strong forces. These force field that do not fall into the classical four are sometimes labeled "subtle energies."They are called "subtle" because they cannot be observed or measured by any known instrumentation.
Dr. William Tiller
, Professor Emeritus of Stanford University, has spent decades studying subtle energy phenomena. He accepts subtle energies as real, and as providing explanatory power for scientifically documented phenomena that cannot be explained by the four known forces. Much of these documented phenomena describe the particular influence that subtle energies have on classical electromagnetic fields. Electromagnetic fields are composed of two basic types of energy wave packets: electrons and photons.
Dr. Tiller asserts that a significant relationship exists between subtle energies and electromagnetic fields. Evidence points to a strong relationship. Evidence also indicates that, if subtle energies can be acted upon in specific ways, they will yield specific results in electromagnetic phenomena - perhaps acting directly on the wave packet states. According to Dr. Tiller, this action may take place through the magnetic vector potentials.
What does Clarus engineer?
Clarus invents and manufactures new types of consumer and industrial products called sympathetic resonators. A sympathetic resonator creates a coupling circuit between subtle energies and classical electromagnetic energies. This coupling circuit does 3 important things.
  1. It converts raw subtle energies into clarified, highly-delineated and highly-concentrated subtle energies. In the sense used here, "raw" is equivalent to raw materials that are converted from a relatively chaotic state into a more ordered, more refined state. After conversion, the subtle energies are, in effect, postulated to be more intensified and condensed.
  2. It conducts these converted subtle energies into an environmental space. The size of the space can range from a 3 foot spherical radius to a 50 foot spherical radius. When the converted subtle energies are conducted into an environment, they act more directly than diffused or raw subtle energies on the systems they both comprise and influence.
  3. This conversion and conduction actively effects the performance of phenomena in the influenced space - especially phenomena which employs electromagnetic fields.
Clarus makes 2 types of sympathetic resonators. Each type is composed of hardware which is treated and imprinted by a master manufacturing device that conducts super-refined subtle energies.
1. The first type includes the 'Passive' SRT products. Also known as "Q-Wearables™", these products help to clarify and support the wearers biofield through a subtle, direct interaction with the wearer.
One example is the QLink Pendant. It is engineered using 3 components: a resonating cell, the Sympathetic Resonance Technology (SRT-3) and an amplifying coil.

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Resonating cell​




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Amplifying coil[/TD]​


The main component, the resonating cell containing a proprietary formula of pure crystalline elements, works as an oscillator that converts and conducts subtle energy into more coherent energy states. The SRT-3 tunes the cell's vibrations for the wearer's Biofield . The amplifying coil shapes and strengthens the size of the energy field that is conducted. It extends the power of the sympathetic resonance into a 3-dimensional field. This entire process clarifies the user's energy states, and thereby strengthens the internal power and resilience of the wearer, allowing him to more effectively filter out chaotic type energies. Electrical energy is not required for this resonator since it is powered by the energy of the person wearing it. Because electrical power is not applied, and because of the unique way a sympathetic resonator works, the cell, SRT-3 and amplifying coil do not have to be physically wired as they would with a normal Hertzian electronic circuit. Other passive SRT products include the Q-Link Bracelets , Handcrafter Silver collection and other Body Worn Applications.

[TD]Qlink Optimizer
Q-Link Optimizer
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[TD]Qlink Nimbus
Q-Link® Nimbus
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2. The second type includes the ' Active' SRT products. Also known as " Q-Actives™ ", they help to clarify and support the user's biofield by enhancing the environments in which the user lives, works or otherwise occupies. Active products include Q-Link Nimbus , Opimizer and discontinued Ally Portable & ClearWave 1,2 and 3 clock models. The circuit boards in these devices are not the traditional electrical engineering-type circuit boards, but are designed for their own purpose to convert and conduct subtle energies. These circuit boards use an actively-powered oscillator to extend the influential range of the instrument. Projects are now underway for new SRT applications, such as enhancing water, increasing agricultural yields, improving cosmetics, increasing the value of sports equipment and apparel, improving battery life and refining chemical manufacturing processes. Where are subtle energies converted from?
Where are they conducted to?
Dr. William Tiller hypothesizes that subtle energies may be a type of energy or energies within the vacuum state. Dr. Tiller hypothesizes that their energy is possibly converted through the magnetic vector potentials identified in quantum physics. These potentials are the parent field for all electromagnetic phenomena. This conversion process is taking place all the time, though in a raw, relatively chaotic state. Other scientists postulate that subtle energies are part of quantum fields (Dr. Glen Rein). Subtle energies may play a role in string theory. The string theory interpretation implies that subtle energies are part of dimensional structures that underlay the phenomena of both matter and energy wave packets. If a technology could be engineered that more systematically clarified, converted and conducted subtle energies from the vacuum state into the realm of currently measurable energies, such as classical electromagnetics - that is, into the realm of common forces and matter and thus into any physical, chemical or biological system - the implications would be enormous. If a technological process could be successfully developed, then, in general, the following would be expected:
  1. electron and photon flows would be more efficient
  2. electromagnetic interactions would be more efficient
  3. valence shell bonding process would happen faster and would be more energy efficient (ionic bonding processes would be more energy efficient giving rise to more stable bonds)
In theory, the technological ability to convert raw subtle energies into condensed specific vector energies implies that any system would become more refined, more stabilized and energy efficient - i.e. more clarified. Photonic and electronic systems would function with more signal and less noise. Chemical processes would be more energy efficient. And any biological system would be strengthened and more self-resonant with its own healthy functioning. This technology could potentially be used to create new degrees of atomic bonds and new materials, and could significantly augment a wide spectrum of processes in applied physics, chemistry and biology. Generating a host of positive and powerful benefits to these standard processes. Theory implies that a technology of this type could reduce quantum noise at room temperatures, and thereby open new thresholds in micro and nano industries. The goal of Clarus has been to engineer and produce this technology. We call it Sympathetic Resonance Technology™ or SRT™. We want to push this technology to greatness in our lifetimes - and we imagine that in the future sympathetic resonators will become a highly desired component in all households as both freestanding appliances and as a component in many consumer and industrial products and processes. Why is it called Sympathetic Resonance Technology? If you make the assumption that phenomena, especially electromagnetic, is composed of raw, relatively chaotic subtle energies, and that it would be useful to convert these energies from raw to more refined and ordered states, then you need to do two things. One: you need to invent a technology that converts this raw energy into a more clarified, condensed and intensified form. How we did this is our proprietary trade secret. It is our honest opinion that we have succeeded, and we have been told by Drs. Green, Srinivasan and Tiller that we are the first engineering group to do so. Two: you need to apply this technology to a variety of phenomena to see where and how well it works. Especially electromagnetic phenomena. What we have found, using our current versions of this technology, is that each system, or each experimental target, appears to have its own resonant ratios of subtle energies. Therefore, we use the principles of resonant systems as our main model for converting raw, relatively chaotic subtle energy into refined subtle energy - and into proportions that match, and thereby influence, the target system. Resonance occurs when two objects have frequencies of oscillations that are close to each other. When two such systems are in proximity, then they resonate at the frequency dictated by the stronger of the two oscillations. For example, when a string in a guitar is plucked, any string on another guitar which is tuned to a nearby resonance starts oscillating at the driven frequency. Though actual subtle energy frequencies are beyond direct observation and current instrumentation measurement, we invented a clarification method that nonetheless effectively converts and refines subtle energies. The effects of the clarification process can be measured in the target system. We are conducting research and development in the field of materials science, and discovering ways to use novel molecular oscillators to generate higher degrees of clarification and conversion. In the years ahead, this will allow us to gain a higher quality of refined subtle energy effects. This will allow us to have more precision and power with respect to target system matching and performance gains. Using these basic principles, we match a specific sympathetic resonator to the desired energy or performance state of the target system. We take our core SRTechnology and adjust it for the specific requirements of each system. In this way, we make our resonant technology "sympathetic" with the specific subtle energy requirements or constitution of that system. A CD is not a human. A CD is different from a human in terms of class, kind and also in terms of subtle energies. That is why we make a specific type of resonator that is sympathetic to a CD's functioning, and another one that is sympathetic to a human being's functioning. The key is to identify the specifics of each type of system, then engineer a specific sympathetic resonator to match its unique characteristics and desired parameters for functioning. Once a sympathetic resonator is activated, it stimulates or catalyzes condensed flows of clarified subtle energies into the local space in which the target system is located. Our resonator energetically couples with the target system, and both systems energetically reinforce each other in an additive positive feedback process. This occurs when two resonant systems are tuned to each other. Each of our sympathetic resonators provides stable and coherent subtle energy influxes into the targeted system. This insures that the target system will itself become more stable and coherent. The target system is brought to a new coherent order with less fundamental internal noise. Any internal raw, relatively chaotic energy that could be counter to the system's functioning is dramatically reduced. This solidifies the target system and its internal dynamics - and insures that external noise is less likely to destabilize the inherent and desired functional state of the system. Because the target phenomena or system is functioning with more internal integrity, it is more insulated from the energy draining effects from external sources. If the target system before SRT application was being compromised and depleted by energy drains, then it was tending to system strain, fatigue and dysfunction. It was tending to less signal and more noise and was more at risk for system failure. SRT cannot reverse mechanical systems that are in decline, but it can reduce noise, and it appears to slow or reverse some declines in biological systems. Applying SRT to a biological system entails the matching of the sympathetic resonator to the life supporting energy states of the biological system. When people are the biological system, tests have found and SRT users report that this restores human energy states to higher performance levels. It appears that internal dynamics are strengthened, enhanced and maintained - as long as it remains resonantly coupled with the sympathetic resonator. In plain English, a sympathetic resonator is designed to stimulate or catalyze the phenomena or system to be more of what it is. To operate with more energy efficiency. To be more stable. To have its own energy self-amplified - and to have more internal power to resist attenuating energy drains upon it. In the presence of a sympathetic resonator, a dynamic energy system functions and performs at higher levels with less noise - and suffers less energy depletion and wastage caused by forces or events external to it.[/TD]

And the short version:
In plain English, a sympathetic resonator is designed to stimulate or catalyze the phenomena or system to be more of what it is. To operate with more energy efficiency. To be more stable. To have its own energy self-amplified - and to have more internal power to resist attenuating energy drains upon it.
 

Woodsman

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Then, last night I had a horrible dream I had ringworm and that my skin was itchy. By this morning it felt like there were people shouting at me from all directions, but with no noise. Like there was just too much energy bombarding me.
The subconscious is brilliant in its methods of communication. (The coil of copper wire is configured in a ring shape.)

The average spirituality book shop is loaded with silly claptrap, and yet you can also find Castaneda books, crystals and decks of cards to employ for readings, etc. Tools and information. Discernment and learning are important when navigating those waters. This Q Link product falls somewhere in that same grab bag.

From the QLink "How it works" details (thank-you lainey)...

"Though actual subtle energy frequencies are beyond direct observation and current instrumentation measurement, we invented a clarification method that nonetheless effectively converts and refines subtle energies. The effects of the clarification process can be measured in the target system."
Oh really? So they can actually measure the effect? I'd like to know more about that! It seems like an important detail. Have they offered any examples of these measurements?

Let me hazard a guess: No.

When it comes to crystals, for instance, (and I've faithfully had several in my life for many years now), I've never, not even once, been able to discern any direct effect from them. No sparkles. No hazy energy fields. No warm or cold spots. Nothing. I've spent hours staring and relaxing and meditating. Nothing. They just seem like pretty rocks to me.

However, I do get plenty of secondary confirmation of effects from crystals. Enough to logically conclude that something is going on despite my thick skull, and that I'd better wise up and take it seriously.

-I had a Kung Fu friend who gave me an exquisite crystal one day, clear and bright, and I asked him to place it where he thought it would have the best effect. He did, putting it on an out of the way shelf in my house. A couple of weeks later, I accidentally bumped it. I did my best to put it back exactly where I thought it had been, but I wasn't sure. "Close enough," I thought. Then a few days later, my friend came over and squinted at the room. "Why did you move the crystal?"

How could he tell? I asked him. The energy of the room was out of kilter; he'd always claimed to be able to see energy lines emanating from all manner of objects and people, and presumably a little shift on one end can make a big difference at the other. He shifted the crystal by a few millimeters and relaxed.

I have plenty of baffling anecdotes like that. Enough to have convinced me that carrying the QFS personal crystal is a good idea, (I have it in my pocket right now), and to leave the water jug crystal in my water jug. (And to leave that in the Sun when possible, and away from moonlight.)

So who am I to question this QLink thing?

The write up copy is well produced, if light on actionable details, but clearly written by somebody who has an idea or two of what they are doing and want to achieve, to the point where I admit to feeling somewhat excited by the idea and curious enough to maybe purchase one of the darned things. Maybe.

I feel wary about the fact that the vendor remains vague and secretive. If it came as a channeled design, then they ought to say so. (I'd want to know more about the source; there are a bunch of dark ones out there.) Why not describe their testing process which led them to thinking, "Ah hah! A copper coil does the trick! Far better than this lousy silver wire!"? Are they worried about Chinese knock-offs? Of looking silly? (I have news for them: they can't look any more silly than they already do to people who want to see silliness; their customer base is by its nature going to be quite willing to forgive even the weirdest testing procedures, -if they only bothered to explain them.)

Secrets, in my opinion, while sometimes necessary for safety and proper growth curves, can also signal negative intentions and fear. When I do a card spread for people, I explain how I think the process works. -They usually blink in surprise at how rational it sounds. Like, "Yeah, of course that works."

I'm not eager to my waste my time or that of others screwing around without at least having a working theory, or even just the assurance of somebody who has a proven track record of knowing what they are doing and getting regular results. I'm not about to give my power, my Free Will, away to a lousy pack of cards or a necklace. I can't stand "magic". I might as well sing and dance for rain with stripes painted on my face, or cast "spells" like some angsty teen wearing too much eye makeup. -While some hyperdimensional lizard clocks in for the work day to harvest my retarded chicken energy. No thank-you.

So my take right now is that there is some positive intention, but a lot of ignorance behind this QLink device. If you can wear it the wrong way around and suffer a bad effect, for instance, and if the vendor doesn't know enough to issue proper warnings, then they are operating in the dark themselves. They might as well be selling radium cures or cocaine for clearing the sinuses. (Well, that's a bit harsh, but you take my meaning.)

In any case saying the word "Quantum" in one's ad copy means "grasping at straws and indulging in wishful thinking". At least to some degree.
 
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3DStudent

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Oh really? So they can actually measure the effect? I'd like to know more about that! It seems like an important detail. Have they offered any examples of these measurements?
When I bought my Q-Link a few years ago, that was one of the reasons I went ahead and got it. Their site has changed, but they promoted it mostly as a golfer's device to help with their swings. And they had some papers where they showed cells being exposed without wearing one vs. wearing one. A quick look on their site doesn't show that.

Just searched the EMF Exposure thread and found this post:

As I said in the Sott H&W interview, the q-link is the only device I've seen where double blind study showed clear benefit in RBC clumping - and disabled q-links were also used (and failed).

The device uses passive crystal oscillators connected to 75 feet of gold wire in order to resonate at Shumann frequencies (alpha for example). The theory is that the resonance supports the user's bio-field thereby reducing the impact of EMF - it does not shield EMF/RF. Beverly Rubic was involved in conduction the original study that used RBC clumping as a measure of effectiveness.

Exact quantitative mechanism is unknown - afaik.

I have plenty of baffling anecdotes like that. Enough to have convinced me that carrying the QFS personal crystal is a good idea, (I have it in my pocket right now), and to leave the water jug crystal in my water jug. (And to leave that in the Sun when possible, and away from moonlight.)
You put your crystal in the sun? I thought both direct sunlight and moonlight clear the charge.
 

monotonic

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Sunlight in combination with an intent to clear the charge is most likely to wipe the crystal in my own understanding of the Cs comments. Incidental sun exposure is okay, but deliberately leaving it in the sun should probably be avoided. Perhaps the sunlight causes it's charge to become more malleable, susceptible to thoughts?

Oh really? So they can actually measure the effect? I'd like to know more about that! It seems like an important detail. Have they offered any examples of these measurements?
They say there are measured positive results because that is how they interpret their studies on human response. The human response is the measured effect. But those studies aren't very clear on methodology and human response is not trivial to accurately measure. The RBC clumping test sounds more likely to be credible.

For anyone who may want to read some more, here is the most detailed, yet still vague, description of how the Q-Link works.

I read through this and there is just no way to extract any real information out of the text. They don't define any of their terms and none of them are testable. It's all a bunch of dense jargon that supposedly has something to do with William Tiller's work. Obviously us mere mortals are not qualified to scrutinize "subtle energies".

As I said in the Sott H&W interview, the q-link is the only device I've seen where double blind study showed clear benefit in RBC clumping - and disabled q-links were also used (and failed).

The device uses passive crystal oscillators connected to 75 feet of gold wire in order to resonate at Shumann frequencies (alpha for example). The theory is that the resonance supports the user's bio-field thereby reducing the impact of EMF - it does not shield EMF/RF. Beverly Rubic was involved in conduction the original study that used RBC clumping as a measure of effectiveness.

Exact quantitative mechanism is unknown - afaik.
Did Q-link ever actually claim the coil was tuned to the Schumann resonance? Because 75 feet of wire is not enough to resonate at the Schumann resonance with the geometry of coil used in the Q-link and capacitors/crystals that would fit inside it. Now there are some obscure alternate resonance schemes that involve physical dimensions rather than electrical behavior. For instance if the wire was strung up from end to end, maybe the whole wire would resonate at the Schumann resonance physically? And some people seem to think this matters even when the wire is bound up in a coil. But I don't think Q-link has ever made a claim like this.

Even if the 75 feet of wire is just being used as an antenna, what surface mount crystals are available that oscillate at 7.8Hz? As far as I know, none. You would need a physically massive crystal for that, and I suspect the manufacturing techniques don't even exist to make one.
 
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