Greece: debt, creditors, austerity measures, Syriza, Varoufakis, Troika

[Seaniebawn]

this is great news, good on the Greek people, I'd imagine it's damage control now, this will be interesting

 

[SeekinTruth]

Indeed, great news! Whatever the fascist corporatocracy will unleash should at least expose what they're up to even more....

 

[latulipenoire]

Quote from: Castorette on Today at 06:13:54 PM
Yep! I don't want to be too much enthusiastic now, I prefer to wait for the final result but surely it starts to smell good. I wonder what will be the PTB next move...

And they have a large arsenal: assassinating/blackmailing leaders, false flag operations, media bashing, stock market collapse, demonstrations, etc.

May the evil arsenal of the PTB be countered by more awareness and courage by all people in our world! OXI! OXI! :D

 

[seek10]

According Guardian, 'No' won
_http://www.theguardian.com/business/live/2015/jul/05/greeces-eurozone-future-in-the-balance-as-referendum-gets-under-way--eu-euro-bailout-live#block-55998d26e4b00bdd27707dfa

Evening summary: Greece gives creditors the big No

A quick recap:

Greece has delivered a dramatic, unexpected and sensational rejection of the terms demanded by its creditors in return for aid, putting itself closer to leaving the euro.

With more than three quarters of votes counted, around 62% of Greeks have voted No, or Oxi – stunning the eurozone, and opening up another chapter in this long crisis.

Thousands of No supporters have hit the streets of Athens tonight to celebrate:
...

 

[seek10]

With Greek 'No', one would expect MSM will go silent or come up with excuses, but it looks MSM going crazy with news. Probably they are planning to pull the plug on the entire financial system.

 

[Deleted member 11729]

With Greek 'No', one would expect MSM will go silent or come up with excuses, but it looks MSM going crazy with news. Probably they are planning to pull the plug on the entire financial system.

craziness ... few days ago was one analytic on TV, who compared Croatian and Greek economy and analysis showed that actually we are in very similar conditions, and quite similar society and economy, the only major difference is that our retirement system is already cutted how EU want it now to be in Greece, and yes it is difficult for our people to live with 300 EUR, but at the other side it is not that catastrophic at all, as those titles are promoting. Will try to look for that analysis and will try to transcribe it. Was quite interesting, telling actually from economic POV that there is no any major turbulence in EU economy, if they accept Greek proposals how to deal with debt.

But those titles showing that they, even though exposed as corupted and manipulative in economy and politics, they are not ready to give up their propaganda, what is not good indded. That is where crazines start. Hopefully they will calm down tomorrow.

 

[Joe]

craziness ... few days ago was one analytic on TV, who compared Croatian and Greek economy and analysis showed that actually we are in very similar conditions, and quite similar society and economy, the only major difference is that our retirement system is already cutted how EU want it now to be in Greece, and yes it is difficult for our people to live with 300 EUR, but at the other side it is not that catastrophic at all, as those titles are promoting. Will try to look for that analysis and will try to transcribe it. Was quite interesting, telling actually from economic POV that there is no any major turbulence in EU economy, if they accept Greek proposals how to deal with debt.

Exactly, I think about 50% of EU countries are in a similar situation to Greece, i.e. they've been fleeced by the bankers. Greece has now shown that you don't have to "suck it up". How many others will not get the strange idea of standing up for their rights and dignity. I think this could be the start of the end game for the global economy. Great work Greek people! OXI!

 

[Deleted member 11729]

craziness ... few days ago was one analytic on TV, who compared Croatian and Greek economy and analysis showed that actually we are in very similar conditions, and quite similar society and economy, the only major difference is that our retirement system is already cutted how EU want it now to be in Greece, and yes it is difficult for our people to live with 300 EUR, but at the other side it is not that catastrophic at all, as those titles are promoting. Will try to look for that analysis and will try to transcribe it. Was quite interesting, telling actually from economic POV that there is no any major turbulence in EU economy, if they accept Greek proposals how to deal with debt.

Exactly, I think about 50% of EU countries are in a similar situation to Greece, i.e. they've been fleeced by the bankers. Greece has now shown that you don't have to "suck it up". How many others will not get the strange idea of standing up for their rights and dignity. I think this could be the start of the end game for the global economy. Great work Greek people! OXI!

Yes I think so. This is historical move! No corrupted governments will be able to operate easily after this. Our Prime Minister is quite non corruptible, the rest of the Goverment are idiots, but he keeps changing them, we don't need it now yet, but this is good support to all our countries, specially on Balkans and Mediterranean, to set up our own rules for our people. OXI! to craziness and bulling ;)

 

[Mike]

Exactly, I think about 50% of EU countries are in a similar situation to Greece, i.e. they've been fleeced by the bankers. Greece has now shown that you don't have to "suck it up". How many others will not get the strange idea of standing up for their rights and dignity. I think this could be the start of the end game for the global economy. Great work Greek people! OXI!

I think it could be the beginning of the end game as well. This week is going to be interesting.

This is a pretty good run down of the situation.

http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/archives/greece-votes-no-let-the-chaos-begin

 

[Alejo]

Congrats to Greece... now let's brace ourselves for the bullshit storm from the media!

fwiw just got this screenshot from the Guardian:

 

[Mike]

And another article pointing to the end game approaching. Credit and liquidity is drying up and the system may go full seize up.

http://www.jsmineset.com/2015/07/05/what-exit-door/

Watch things closely everyone. Might not be a bad idea if you have any money in banks to be pulling it out to be in cash. At least then you might be able to use it to buy goods if the bank accounts are frozen, etc.

 

[Redrock12]

The Greek people voted not to be pillaged by the international bankers any longer.
Hopefully Spain, Portugal, Italy, and Ireland will follow suit.
It's time to topple this whole corrupt house of cards.

 

[SummerLite]

Wonderful News!!! Its good to hear, I was skeptical and a bit worried. Its not often things go well it seems. :(

When people come together like this and stand for their sovereignty and quality of life against oppression its a joyful occasion! It does the heart good to see. I hope more good is to follow but.... things won't be easy I guess we know.

Here's to the People of Greece!

The Greek people voted not to be pillaged by the international bankers any longer.
Hopefully Spain, Portugal, Italy, and Ireland will follow suit.
It's time to topple this whole corrupt house of cards.

Wouldn't that be an unexpected and very surprising turn of events! The will of the people topple the whole corrupted structure. Miraculous it would be.

I guess I've become accustomed to expecting the worse for some reason...but who knows.

 

[Castorette]

Do you know this guy of the Redefiniggod.com's blog?

He came with that on the 4th of July:

_http://redefininggod.com/2015/07/globalist-agenda-watch-2015-update-54-greece-and-the-brics-summit/

While I'm really happy to what happened in Greece today, I'm a bit indecisive because he's saying that all this greek drama was looking settled months before and because I'm waiting the PTB choice of first move to this OXI vote.

And now, I'm thinking about Christine Lagarde with her "reset talks" in January 2014.

He's site seems interesting but I'm not sure yet if he's a"disinformation guy" or not...

Your thoughts?

Maybe I'm wrong but I feel like if we are in twisted psychological cointelpro op.

 

[mabar]

Congrats to Greece... now let's brace ourselves for the bullshit storm from the media!

Like this, although, I think their unconcious play dirty to them :P

Using google translate ...

Referendum: Incredible blunder Associated Press - They made the summit a new referendum

The Greek referendum ... probably affected journalists of the agency Associated Press, who instead write on Twitter that the president of the European Council, Donald Tusk, convened a Summit on Tuesday, wrote that ... convened a referendum!

Shortly afterwards they rushed to fix the tweet, which however was already doing the rounds on the internet.

BREAKING: European Council president says he's called a referendum Tuesday to discuss Greece.
- The Associated Press (AP) July five, 2015

BREAKING: European Council president says he's called a summit to discuss Greece. (Corrects that the council president called a referendum.)
- The Associated Press (AP) July five, 2015